Hate Crimes Legislation is Stupid

I agree. If you've ever had a relative murdered - and I have - it makes no sense that one group of people or multiple groups of people are considered more important than your own loved one. Murder is murcer. Robbery is robbery. Assault is assault.

Amen! All crimes are friggin hate crimes.

I agree.

Thanks Marilyn and Moggy ! ! ! !

The so-called liberals passed this bill so that one may face double jeopardy. If found not guilty on the charged offense, the government can then try one agin for the same exact crime under the "hate crime" provision.

It took over half an hour to download, but this is the first Gather video I've watched. Excellent, jJack! Worth the wait!

wow, you must have a dial up connection still *chuckle* thanks for the effort ! ! !

Great video, jJack.........

It takes real gonads to sit down in front of a camera and lay it on the line.......

(By the way, is there any hate crime legislation against five o'clock shadow??)

**chuckle**

Thanks berf ! ! !

Stuttering Jack (how appropriate now after watching your inept performance),

When I first watched your argument against hate crime legislation, I decided to play devil's advocate and think of possible other instances where past legislation may or may not be redundant:

*Affirmative Action
*Sexual Harassment

In these cases, the idea is not to punish people MORE for the same crimes.

The idea is for the public to understand the emotional and societal damage done when a crime is committed BECAUSE of someone's race, gender, religion, age, or sexual preference.

In these cases, a clear message has to be sent to society that we will not stand for this type of behavior. So you can't punish JUST for the crime itself, you expand the scope of the law to reflect the severity of the crime.

This should be easy to understand.

When society feels that the public has a better understanding of the issue, it will debate the existence of such laws, hence the debate over Affirmative Action.

It's only "easy" for idiotic liberal loons like YOU to "understand." For everyone else, there is no understanding for moronic concepts like "hate crimes."

Does anybody on this website know how to think?

Certainly not you, moron.

Douglas, I agree with you and the lady. The idea is to make morons like "Midknight" understand that we cannot keep the traditions of "stringing up" a minority group just because they are the popular whipping boy of the day. My example:

National Tragedy #1- When 911 happened, thousands of people that even remotely look Middle Eastern were subjected to harassment, beatings, employment terminations, kicked out of restaurants, etc. Don't know if there were any killings.

National Tragedy #2-- In the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing, I heard NOT ONE THING of anyone bearing the look of one of the perpetrators harmed or even insulted in any way.

Too many people think its okay to single out a "them" to blame for their upset and act accordingly. But "them" is rarely a white male. I could cite a few more examples, but hopefully that's enough.

The statistics point to a problem that will not go away without special legislation. That's why its been created, and why it needs to stay until the message has gotten through that things like the aftermath of 911 on innocent citizens must stop.

After reading a few of MidKnight's other articles, I hereby retract the "moron" insult and apologize to him. Sorry, jJack. I'd edit it if I could. This has taught me, though, to choose my words more carefully in forums. Insults generally have no place on Gather.

The rest of what I said stands, though.

First, I do not understand all the needless insults. Second, I do agree with hate crime laws and I do agree with Wyoming and Douglas, no need to be redundant without any good rebuttals to their posts. :)