New Thought On An Old Idea ( 7 )

I have no idea why the message announcing this post went out three times. I'm really sorry for the intrusion.

Thanks, George. I love your new thoughts/ :-)

Marilyn,
Is that "for the record " ?

That was very interesting George. Good stuff. :)

turn up the old victrola
gonna dance the night away

Play it again George.

Word of mouth and oral history is so very important...

Erika,
Those old records sure have taught me a lot.

D.B.D.,

Crank It Up.

Kathryn,

People need to speak to each other more often than they tend to do these days.

First thing I thought of was the "talking rings" from "The Time Machine". Thanks for the info.

Ginny,

I remember the 1960 version of that movie. Thank you for reminding me of that.

Brilliant, George. This speaks strongly to the parents of this generation.. while they might not use any technology to fill in the gaps where they don't properly teach their children.. technology that might distort the information for people 104 years from now.. they might not be teaching their children much of anything. This teaching is the best tool we have to survive as a species.. language is the best medium, but we rely on television and the internet so often because we've sprawled out, maybe too much.
One thing about the way future people will see us, though, is that our technology is vastly different than it was 104 years ago.. so people will have a much more accurate understanding from the media. What I think will be most different will be the relevancy of the information. Because there seems to be far less interactive parenting going on now than there was pre-1950's, and we have the internet, I think our future generations will inherit less direct information from their families and more from the world at large.

Roland,

I would hate to think that YouTube will be looked at as our "Storyteller" 104 years from now.

Hi,

I am a virgin here, just started posting on Gather this week, and i am not sure at all if this is the place to leave my "New Thought on an Old Idea" so pardon me if i am screwing up and thanks for any direction as to where i should go with:

The New Body of Christ

"Where there is no vision, the people perish."-Proverbs 29, 18 - King James Version

The ancients understood that God spoke to them in their dreams and visions. The ancients told those stories around the camp fires and those stories grew by the flame enkindled in the hearer's hearts; transforming them into story tellers too.

During the season of Lent-the days between Ash Wednesday and Easter Sunday- Christians are called to self reflection and repenting-understood as a turning away from or as a change of course which seeks God first.

In the gospel [good news] told in Mark 3: 31-35, the mother of Jesus' and his brothers arrived at the house where he was teaching.

Standing outside, they sent word to Jesus and called him out. The crowd around Jesus told him, "Your mother, sisters and brothers are outside asking for you."

Jesus replied, "I am here with my mother, sisters and brothers. For whoever does the will of God is my brother, sister and mother."-Mark 3: 31-35

"What does God require? He has told you o'man! Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord." -Micah 6:8

Being just means correct, true, accurate, right and fair.

Merciful is to have, feel and show compassion, that sense of viscerally feeling the pain of another and being moved to help.

Being humble is knowing yourself; the good and the bad, for both cut through every human heart.

All Christians-from the most fundamental to those left of the progressives-are connected to the other as a sister and brother in the mystical Body of Christ.

It is a MOST dysfunctional family in the USA and past time to liberate Jesus from the bondage of institutional patriarchy for no church owns Jesus and no religion owns God.

HOW do we get there?

It begins with imagination; where all human creativity is birthed.

In 2003, I read an article in Presence Magazine written by a pastor of a church in Berkeley.

I no longer remember what he wrote, but he inspired me to email him a few of my theological questions.

He replied something like this;

I once gave a sermon that began with the story of Rabbi Hillel, who lived 100 years before Jesus walked the earth.

Rabbi Hillel understood the Hebrew understanding of Hokema; Holy Wisdom; The Feminine Divinity, was the same as the Greek understanding of The Logos: The Word.

It was Saints John and Paul that understood The Logos: The Word was Jesus.

So with a little imagination you can imagine that before Jesus walked the earth a man, he was already a she; The Word, Holy Wisdom, Hokema, the feminine divinity.

I gave that sermon to a mainline conservative congregation. It didn't go over well…

It read like good news to me since the days of Eve until the days of JC, the feminine was not equally valued.

Jesus is the first known man to blow apart the societal and religious taboos of speaking with females.

One more example of how the male disciples would not, could not follow Jesus' example.

Later male disciples, the Protestant Reformers, would not, could not accept the Book of Wisdom and threw it out of their canon, but the Catholics include it in their bible.

It has been said that some thought the Book of Wisdom was too Jewish or perhaps too feminine.

The Book of Wisdom defines wisdom as: a spirit intelligent, holy, unique, manifold, subtle, agile, clear, unstained, and certain. Not baneful, but loving the good. Keen, unhampered, beneficent, kind, firm, secure, all-powerful, all-seeing and pervading all spirits.

Wisdom is mobile beyond all motion and SHE penetrates and pervades all things by reason. SHE is the aura of the might of God and a pure effusion of the glory of The Almighty. SHE is the refulgence of eternal Light, a spotless mirror of the power of God. And SHE who is one, can do all things and renews everything, and passing into holy souls from age to age, SHE produces friends of God and prophets.- WISDOM 7:22-8:1

*Wisdom has built her house and SHE calls to all; "Come, eat my food and drink my wine and you will live abundant life and walk in the ways of understanding." -*Proverbs 9…

Number 9 Number 9 Number 9....Let all who are little come in here, Wisdom has built her house; come eat her food and drink her wine and walk in the ways of understanding [Proverbs 9]...I'm so very small I'm so very small, already within the heart of every atom yet extend Beyond the Universe and connect every mother and child....Number 9 Number 9 Number 9.......

Wisdom calls; "I have built it; will you come? Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear?

Holy Wisdom, the Feminine Divinity: Hokema,

Who was with The Word from the very beginning,

She is One with Him and He with Her;

Pure Being; One God;

One Creator and One Lover of All the Human Family,

Hokema; Holy Wisdom;, The Feminine Divinity

Same as The Logos: The Word:


Have you heard the word is love and the word is just the way-John Lennon

The Word is The Christ and before Christ walked the earth a man,

He was already a SHE:

Hokema, Holy Wisdom; the Feminine Divinity

Now, isn't that Good News?

The God Head is One Pure Being;

as much male as female

as much mommy as daddy.

And we are all children of Her Universe;

And **He is the oldest personality because He is the origin of everything;

and everything is born of Him.

He is the supreme controller of the universe,

the maintainer and instructor of humanity.

He is smaller than the smallest.[**Bhagavad-Gita]

He indwells the heart of every atom and

She is beyond the Universe.

Wisdom is calling,

She is rattling your windows and shaking your walls

With some more good news of the

three witnesses,

and three always beats one

and not just that,

I've got a fourth.

Get out your Good Book sisters and brothers and chew on this;

Matthew 12:31-32, Mark 3:28-29, and Luke 12:10

are simpatico with gnostic Thomas saying 44:

'Jesus said: "Whoever blasphemes against the father will be forgiven, whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven."

God is within every sister, brother and all Creation,

Get a clue Christian,

His ways are not your ways and Her thoughts are not your thoughts

Dominion never meant to rape and plunder,

but to nurture, care and love

And if you have not love, you have nothing at all

And on that final day we all will stand naked before The Creator

And we have been warned that there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth

by those who were so sure they were in, because they are the ones left out.

WAKE UP Christian!

And hear the wind begin to howl!

For every misunderstanding, every condemning thought, every negative vibration, every tear torn from a heart, every time one grabbed and wouldn't let go, and they only did it because they did not know:

The Divine is within all creation and within all women and men.

And every tiny kindness you have ever done, every gentle word spoken, every time you held your tongue, every positive thought, every smile freely given, every helping hand that opens, helps bring in the kingdom.

And the kingdom comes from above, and it comes from within. Imagine a kingdom of sisterhood of all creatures and all men.

"Where there is no vision, the people perish."-Proverbs 29, 18 - King James Version

Christianity was founded by rebels, revolutionaries and dissidents, not conservatives or neo-cons.

And neither were these United States.


Eileen Fleming, Reporter and Editor WAWA
http://www.wearewideawake.org/
Author "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory"
Producer "30 Minutes with Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu"

I'm in the midst of a lightning storm here George and need to disconnect. It loves Lake Superior and nearby habitations. I'll be back tomorrow, I hope.

eileen ,

Wow, that's a lot of information to ponder. You have some interesting points to make. My personal belief is that every religion holds a piece of the puzzle of God. Finding the right pieces is the challenge.

Beryl,

Good luck, stay dry !

cool

Pretty extraordinary stuff, George! I am reminded of the power of Polynesian culture transmitted from generation to generation so that we have a complete historical documentation of when the first Hawaiians came to the islands and how they made that trip. You make me realize that the deeper we go into artificial technology, the more we tend to trivialize our own human brainpower, which has its own astonishing technology when we give it a chance.

susan,

Thanks, glad you're on record as liking this.

Gerry,
Our society is like a full hard drive. In order to add something we delete something. Not good.

I think a lot about the generations who came before me.

I wonder what it must have been like to have traveled west in a wagon train or
to have been a slave on a slave ship or to have danced during the roaring twenties, or during the seasons of the two world wars.

I love being reminded of the simplicity of an agrarian America where a family's greatest concern might have been if the weather that year would befriend their crops.

All bring me to ask one puzzling question. Why are we here and what legacy are we expected to leave? Collectively and individually.

This is an important review that you are doing, George. Your videos invite us to examine issues beyond (and just as important as) the price of gasoline.

Keep doing what you're doing. I like the process immensely.

P.W.

Thanks, it really fires me up when someone sees beyond today's headlines.