Obama Is Really One To Talk About Morality

He is opening up a can of worms here. Now, international courts can try our agents for war crimes. Thanks Obama. Impeach him now, or impeach him later.

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impeach.......i would sign it... i am so fearful for my country......

I think there has been a problem in recent years with every president and morals as far back as I can remember to Nixon.

EVERY President.

Do you call Bush II completely moral for lying about his religious beliefs to get the votes of teh conservative Christian?

Its all too easy to blame other people and look beyond our own faults and see the faults of others.

I'm not keen with a lot of what Obama has done so far in office, but he needs to be accountable for his actions and quit with the past, what's done is done, and needless to say it can't be changed.
Mooch

Kimberly, you are so clueless about life aren't you?
obama is a realist who knows what is going on, Bush ruined everything good about this country, he ruined the economy 9that God he didn't invest all our social security to play the stock market like he wanted) he failed at EVERYTHING he ever attempted in his life, his father had to bail him out again and aagain, and got into the office of president illegally and the Supreme Court was corrupted. You view on life is so slanted to the Religious Right and the fabrications and demeaning of humanity, bush and his lot should all be shot!

Oh my. I couldn't agree with you more on this. He was WAY too inexperienced to take office and his morality seems to only be what sounds good at the moment to get the votes.... *sigh*. This man needs serious serious amounts of prayer.

I can't even begin to explain just how very wrong you are, Kimberly. I know it would be like talking to a brick wall, so I will just sit back and let you drink your Rush kool-aid and believe what you want, however misguided you are.

Keep YOUR religion out of MY government.

I agree with Mooch, all of them have moral issues.

I totally disagree with you. But this is a free country.

Long live the 1st Amendment. Any idiot can post.

I agree completely, Kimberly. The man lied about so much to get into office, but his followers are so blind. He's as much to blame for much of the mortgage problems as anyone...because he trained ACORN people to lobby Congress about getting those bad mortgages for people who should have never gotten them. I believe he and his wife have hated America for years and they still do...and are doing everything in their power to bring it down.

I see some canidates for the next election post on here.

By the way...fhe former VP will be on Fox at 9 p.m. tonight about this.

I tell you all, I have never been so ashamed to be an American as I am now.........I am so glad my parents are gone and in Heaven so they don't have to see all the horror. It makes me so sick to my stomach. I see why so many Americans are leaving the country!

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I'm a bit confused, you think that investigating possible war crimes is a bad thing. I wonder why you think this is bad? Do you remember a little thing called the Geneva Convention? Something about all people have rights? Oh and then there is this concept of do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

And what would you do if you were President? Use complete sentences and forget about what you would not do. Please remember that the US imports between $300 billion and $700 billion worth of oil each year because the US uses more than it can produce, and 8X as many people (India and China) are starting to use oil, so we will soon not have enough and it will be very expensive.

Obama ROCKS! There's a HUGE difference between killing people and invading a non-threatening country for fun and profit while stealing elections and trampling on the constitution of the nation he detests so much and trying to fix the problems he caused. Obama has more morals in his pinky than Bush has ever seen.

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I think Obama just does not know what he is doing. He must not have good advisers or he just doesn't listen to them' He has done and said some dumb things in his first few month in office.Maybe he will get things under control befor to long. I pray he does or we are all in big trouble.

Something I have not understood is some people say Obama is "WAY too inexperienced to take office" . How experienced did bush have as president when he took office ?? zero, and in 8 years that man did more damage to the U.S. then anyone in our history. Obama has been trying to patch up our image to the world, deal with our crisis with employment and our major companies failing which would lead more unemployment.

What did bush do to improve our country ??

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Whew, what comments this has received! Some are just downright laughable. Thanks for the entertainment. BTW, I agree with you Kimberly.

Morals? LMAO! Thats funny considering that the alternative to Obama was a man who cheated on his wife and we wont even start with Palen. I love the morality police here on Gather who scream and cry about how bad Obama is doing calling, how unchristian he is, and quote the bible. Mean while they forget that the bible says not to incite anger as anger leads to sin. Many also pick and choose the passages of the bible that suit their needs while forgetting the rest of it because it would describe them. If many here followed half of what they preach they would be spending to much time worrying about their own morality and sins to have enough time left to worry about the sins of others.

Blah this whole election was a joke! Honestly I didn't think either of the candidates running would do a good job. But hey someone had to be elected. I do agree it did go to the biggest liar but like I said I didn't care for any of the choices......

Opening the CIA Interrogation Files sets a dangerous political precedent and a slide down the proverbial slippery slope. Lawyers will have a field day costing the U.S. Taxpayer big bucks in trumped up investigations/fact-finding debacles. I do not see how this move will support America's national security.

Naive is one thing, willfully ignorant is another. Obama is neither, Bush was both. I do not now nor did I or will I ever hate George Bush. I love him, he is a person. For my money, I am far more interested in someone who is willing to say "Torture is wrong and we will not do it" than I am in paying someone to torture people. To my way of thinking, any person of worth and value would rather not have their fellow humans harmed. My experience in the world has proven this idea to be cosmopolitan (widespread). Still, it is war all the time. We are, after all, animals. Does anyone else not think it brave, forthright, and timely for the leader of the FREE world to suggest that there are better ways to git-r-dun?

I don't think anyone has any right to talk about anyone's moral purity. You show me one person who's never done an immoral thing, or never claimed they wouldn't do something immoral, then did it, and I will show you world peace. There is such a subjective view on what's moral or not, and the grey area is HUGE... immoral acts aside, I'm not excusing anyone, just saying no one has a right to judge, it is ETHICS and goodwill towards our fellow man that are of most importance.

The respectful approach can be, must be, and will be applied to geoeconopolitical concerns. Global fraternization is real and occurrant. All religions bow to the dollar therefore mutual interest must inevitably rule. The society able to promote, recognize and avail itself of the worth of the largest majority of its members will ultimately prevail. A global human reckoning will commence. Obama is a link in the chain, as was Bush, and every other president, every gravedigger, every shoemaker, every computer programmer, every systems analyst, every slacker. To remain vital humanity must accept itself for what it is. Or not. War all the time. We are in the information age. More and more people know more and more about each other, thus more love and understanding (as it is our natural inclination) spreads through the world. The less attention given to hate the better, in my book.

And the more people know about each other, the more they start to feel crowded and threatened by what someone else knows about them..... I agree, give the attention to something more worthwhile....

Wow interesting

I just can't get over how people thik Obama is ruining the country when he's been in office for all of what? 3 months now? Give me a break! And maybe, give him a chance. How can you possibly think all the problems with our country now are the fault of the current administration and not the last one that was in office for eight years?

Thanks Lacey for adding a bit of sanity to the so called thinking crowd who seem to be ready totally to ignore anything GWB did to this country but cannot excuse Obama from as much as blowing his nose in barely 90 days. And as far as you who wish to ignore morals in this situation there is no way you can actually deny that the president sets the moral compass for the country. Lets see here you want me to ignore that the last administration stepped out on a limb in telling his minions not to respond to a legal congressional subpoena. You want me to ignore that our president changed his reason for invading Iraq a number of times ? Hmmm, you want me to believe you are so blind to reality that you missed all the shenanigans the president allowed to happen with contractors in Iraq.

I see, Okay, have it your way and every time you look in the mirror you indict your ownself for ignoring the realities of the situation. I'll ignore the intelligent way he and many of his followers denied that the economy was in a down fall even up to a couple days prior to the stock market crash. I'll ignore the fact that under his leadership jobs, housing foreclosures, and banking institutions were falling off a cliff while you and many others agreed. I will not however, stand here in the shadow of your ignorance and allow you to preach that Obama has harmed this country in any way even to a minuscule level compared to Bush and company. That simply tells me you are not willing to be honest in the least bit in your assessments but are blatantly willing to accept Bush for anything he was or did as long as you do not have to agree with anything Obama has said or done.

And for those who are trying to deny that an administration can point at the moral compass of another bringing up a specific argument which points back at ones self does in no way relieve or exonerate the one being accused. You can argue till you are blue in the face and remain in absolute denial but you cannot remove the immorality in many of the actions of the accused.

"Interrogations like that exposed during the Bush administration have been going on for years and if Obama and the rest of you are too naive to figure that out, you need a lesson in reality!"

Ok, statement made but what does that do for right now ? Is it the basis for us ignoring it because the action was done in the past? Explain your self. Lets see that is part of your argument that Obama has damaged this country more in barely 90 days than the past administration? Who do you really believe needs a lesson in reality?

I am no Obama fan, and I will leave it at that!

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Kimberly, just look at the enlightenment you get on this site! Did you know before this that all it takes not to be clueless about life is to believe this? "obama is a realist who knows what is going on..."

For people who like to claim that their intellects rule, the Internet liberals are some of most emotionally ruled people I have ever come across. It's like the kid whose yo yo fell in the puddle, and he's crying that his toy is still shinier than the other kid's brand new one, as if wishing and proclaiming will make it so.

Obama is certainly the best thing and the most moral of all the other choices, and so far he is doing a great job working to undo the great damage done by immoral "Christian" Bush.

Obama is someone that ran on total lies, not a mix of truths, half trues, and lies like most presidents, he ran on all lies. His whole lie has been manufactured for this position, in a Country he has shown no love or respect for.
The Clueless that choose to be this way, elected him, and continue to support this Marxist.
So how can you expect any form of Moral judgement from this wan-a-be?

Will somebody please explain Marxism to this man so he stops embarrassing himself in public like that all the time ???

Pres. Obama initially wasn't open to prosecutions (where were you when he stated that?!) He's gotten a lot of political & media pressure to reconsider...

Interesting opinions here

Well, uh, Peter, I would like to see your explanation, intellectually stimulating as I just know it will be.

LMAO.... some over-dramatic people in this thread today! "The HORROR that is going on!" "Obama is RUINING THE COUNTRY!" Here, let me call you a whaaaaambulance. Take a deep breath y'all, & have some patience & understanding. Obama might not have the same ideals & opinions as everyone in the country, but he is an intelligent man who will NOT "ruin the country." And if you think it's THAT BAD, go find a better country to live in, by all means.

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What did I tell you? So pithy too!

First 100 days:
Admiral Blair from his CIA said we got life-saving info. from torture?-Bamster, says what?-nobody told me.
Obama, throws grand parties-? $100 a lb. beef used at his super bowl party. Mr. President did you forget the economic crisis?.
Obama, bows to the racist terrorist supporter King of Saudi-Arabia.
Obama, apologizes all over the world for America.
Obama, says no lobbyist in my administration- so far there are 12.
Obama, hires tax cheaters{5}to his CABINET.
Obama, press spokes-man a complete idiot. Gibbs.
"""""""", promises to close Gitmo, a lie, it's still open.
Iran, tells the unifier to stick it. Fidel, tells the unifier to stick it. Sarkozy, says he is a lightweight who thinks he can walk on water-ridiculed Obama, as a Messiah complex.
Even with his magical tele-prompter this guy is LOST. 100 DAY DISASTER!

Obama haters, you have not given this man a chance from day one! You do not play fair and I abhor the hatred you display.

It is far too early to judge his effect as our President.

Micky, get a grip. You're talking factual reality. You must be nuts. You need a whaaaaaambulance or sompthin'?

Micky D, you are exactly whom I addressed the previous to. You have changed facts to make Obama a villain.

Leo, please enlighten the profoundly ignorant of us as to which facts Micky has changed, and edit as to how they SHOULD read according to the preferred 'and correct 'reality.'
My google is worn out as a result of several permutations of Peter Joseph Swanson explains Marxism resulting in zero hits.

YO-Leo, thanks for showing me the error I made. THE Bamster has 15 lobby-ist not 12 in his administration.
Sue, how you dooooo'n. Be careful, you may end up on Napalitano's terrorist list.

"Obama is a coward who is constantly looking for ways to blame President Bush for anything and everything wrong so that he doesn't have to look at any one but Bush for a scapegoat."

What a preposterous statement. Obama actually puts thought and concepts to work. President Bush did none of those things. He operated totally on political ideology. He leveled all intellectual thought at the White House and replaced it with incompetent people who failed the country. It'll take a while. But, I think that President Obama will right the ship. He is only telling the truth about President Bush. And, many voters agree with President Obama.

micky's post,

"First 100 days:
Admiral Blair from his CIA said we got life-saving info. from torture?-Bamster, says what?-nobody told me."

This is a lie... What Blair said was "The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means," And he said that "he strongly supported President Barack Obama's decision to ban the techniques. We do not need these techniques to keep America safe."

"Obama, throws grand parties-? $100 a lb. beef used at his super bowl party. Mr. President did you forget the economic crisis?."

Couldn't find anything on this except on Right Wing spin sites... nuff said there!


“Obama, bows to the racist terrorist supporter King of Saudi-Arabia.”

So did GW, except Obama didn't kiss him and walk around holding hands with him like GW did...

"Obama, apologizes all over the world for America."

No, he apologized for what GW did in the name of America. Even though he was one of the only public figures that opposed the Iraq war from the beginning.

"Obama, says no lobbyist in my administration- so far there are 12."

True... but only because he felt having the best people in those positions was more important. Still he has implemented rules strictly limiting his staff's lobbying activities after leaving his administration.

"Obama, hires tax cheaters{5}to his CABINET."

Pretty bold statement when you consider it was Republican tax policy that has allowed the wealthy to cheat the U.S. government, i.e. the American people out of over 100 billion dollars in revenue by taking their money off-shore.

"Obama, press spokes-man a complete idiot. Gibbs."

Sure, all complete idiots rise to Gibb's level.

"""""""", promises to close Gitmo, a lie, it's still open."

He said he would close it in one year. Year isn't up yet. This just proves that you are the idiot.

"Iran, tells the unifier to stick it. Fidel, tells the unifier to stick it. Sarkozy, says he is a lightweight who thinks he can walk on water-ridiculed Obama, as a Messiah complex.
Even with his magical tele-prompter this guy is LOST. 100 DAY DISASTER!"

When? Where?

I realize you are being metaphoric, but what the hell are you talking about? If anything President Obama's performance thus far has thawed tensions with these countries. And Sarkozy denied saying anything like what you claim.

So, like all Right Wing spin purveyors, all you can do is get it wrong, time after time.

So sad... so truly sad...

Oh yeah Kimberly,
President Obama has more morality in his little finger that any ten thousand brain dead red necked Republicans could muster in a million years.

Obama and his supporters are nothing but champions of hate.

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Kimberly, I will stand in total agreement with you on this!!! I guess people actually believe that all us AMERICANS are arrogant and should be sorry about all the bad things we have done in the past, like the rest of world is that innocent. Bush is gone, out of office, so people need to stop blaming Bush for what the Democrats, Congress and Obama have done since January 20, 2009!!! Obama does try to blame everyone before him for the problems today, but isn't it odd that he is continuing with some of Bush's policies that everyone was against.

Very Banana republic of you.




bush and his lot should all be shot!
Georgiana S., Apr 21, 2009, 7:56pm EDT

Peter, read the books. Ohhh that would be getting valid information, you cannot do that, and remain a Liberal.

Kimberly, I'm with you.

Dan, great one! Restating the same old propaganda is what liberals do best since admitting to the truth goes against their beliefs. Funny, if people bothered to look what exactly what the Democratic Party's stances are on issues, they would see that everything Congress is doing right now contradicts their beliefs.

I haven't seen this big a frightwing circle jerk since those so-called Tax day Teabag parties!

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Kimberly, you're entitled to your opinion. It's so moronic on multiple levels that I applaud your utter cluelessness.

mickey d;

I'll have the breakfast burrito this morning please.

Now let’s see what was this post supposed to be about? Oh who cares when the SPEBBFE (Society for the Preservation and Encouragement of Blaming Bush For Everything) takes over. Obama has proved to be the great and mighty Wizard of Oz until you look behind the curtain and you find the actions of someone who never stands behind a single thing he reads from his teleprompter. But unlike the poor old man behind the curtain he (and other members of the society) can deflect Dorothy’s anger by blaming Bush for everything!

Yet, if Obama’s one fault is not living up to his campaign promises, (and not living up to everything he has stated he would do since he took office) is that really a “moral” failing? Indeed in the post-Orwellian 21st century newspeak is morality even a word anymore? Well I suppose it is when one talked about our moral failings as a nation in the years BO (Before Obama), but not in the years AO (After Obama). Indeed, morals might be a bad word, something that those “right winged extremists” (who apparently are the only “terrorists” in the official newspeak of the administration) might have and used against the government.

Presidents play games with morality. Consider President Clinton. Even Nixon was only covering up a break-in that was stupid and moronic to begin with. No the real sources for high immorality has always been and will always be CONGRESS.

Erik B., are you sure you want the gassy-burrito, as a true leftist liberal socialist, Erik are you not concerned about man made global warming?- Do you not realize or even worse do not care, that that gassy burrito will cause you to harm the enviroment, by making you FART-Erik. And Erik if you start farting through Ur-ANUS, that is doubly bad for the air-quality, for that would mean you are now passing dangerous gasses from both your holes!
Erik, best you keep eating and drinking the OZ-BAMA, kool-aid.

"Interrogations like that exposed during the Bush administration have been going on for years and if Obama and the rest of you are too naive to figure that out, you need a lesson in reality!"

I wonder if you believe this is right if it was done for years. I am not arguing whether it has been going on for years. I think Obama is doing the right thing saying it needs to stop. NOW! I wonder if you believe by doing evil to others in the name of MAYBE saving/stopping something nebulous in the future is right?

You are wrong about Nixon, Christopher. He defrauded the nation and shamed the nation with his actions. There has never been a president before or since who can clearly be thought of as a total crook. Nixon is a blight on our history that can never be dismissed with a simple statement that "he was only covering up a break-in." His crimes rose to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors because attempting to disturb the election process rises to that level, Christopher.

mickey d;

You keep talking like that and they're going to take you off the french fry station.

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Erik, my post was much funnier and creative than your post- well that's to be expected I guess.

mickey d;

Whatever you think. Make that, whatever you don't think.

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Well said, Kimberly!! I agree with you, totally!

Thanks for sharing