Does the United States think the rest of the world is stupid!

All I can think of when this sort of thing happens 1: Napolean made it back and 2. There are things we, the people, do not know about witht hese matters.

What is the basis for your claim that Manuel Zelaya has a mental problems?

While you say he was legally removed from office his term had not expired, so what were the grounds for his removal?

While I have not looked into it, I get the feeling there was power struggle going on in Honduras and that Zelaya had significant support among the poplulace.  I say this because I wonder why other elements in Honduras were so opposed to a referendum that could have allowed him to run for another term if it passed.  If there was not someone else who feared the referendum because they  wanted his office and did not think he could be elected if Zelaya was also a candidate why the opposition?

 It seems the easiest thing would have been to let the people of Honduras decided the matter by holding  the referendum and letting the voters choose their next president in the next presidential election.

It is the appearance of that  the people of Honduras are being denied the opportunity to make the decisions regarding that country's future at the polls that disturbs me.  You might not like his politics and I might not like his politics if I looked more deeply into the matter, but whether or not he is a suitable leader for Hondura is not for us to decide, that choice belongs to the people of Honduras.

     

 

 

Apparently  his mental health was brought up independently of all this stuff quite some time ago ............ and If George Bush wanted to get a third term but Congress told him no, so he had the Republicans distribute the ballots anyway and said he was going ahead to change the constitutoon againsnt the wishes of the supreme court and congress would you consider this OK too because that's what you're saying about Honduras.

There are mutiple means of amending our Constitution so the situations are not really analogous.

The Honduran Constitution has a couple of serious problems the first and biggest being the prohibition against admending certain parts of its regardless of what the Honduran Supreme Court, The Honduran Congress or the  people of Honduras want. 

 

 

 

Listen Carol, the fact remains that he did everything legal and illegal to try and hold on to power past his appointed time. Not even Putin did this in Russia and he had a lot more popular support

Allan:  I think one of the main reasons that we are in such a deplorable state, which I have stated over and over on Gather, is our partisan political system.  The only reason why I think the people of this country (and indeed, any country of the world) cannot see this problem is that they are not yet socially evolved enough to see "the forest for the trees."   Our partisan political system (which is basically the same the world over) is simply a more politely disguised version of baboon tribe politics... chest beating, growling, advancing threateningly, establishing male and female dominant orders and grabbing all the bananas so that they can be given out selectively to those in favor.  And to tell you the truth, this cannot and will not change until the people mature religiously, toss off the ancient paradigms of religious practice and adopt a new and modernized version of religious beliefs.   

The world problem is our "dualistic" thinking of seeking polar extremes of right and good VERSUS wrong and bad, rather than some form of cooperation for the greater common good ... as it is we get conflict and destruction rather than peace and creation.

 

We really need to come to recognize our individual as well as common, internal spirit ... that being defined as the (=) that connects and binds with unconditional love each and every person and part of the one whole, positives and negatives alike, in the universal truth expressed as a Basic Equation of Truth, the BET as (+=-), a generic (natural and true) spirituality ... that is what is needed IMnsHO.

It is the Truth that sets us free ....

Yes, the United States seems to believe that all other countries are merely paws to be used. There is an innate national arrogance on the part of most Americans, I've noticed. Don't ask me why - there doesn't seem to be anything valuable to base such an arrogant assumption of innate superiority on.

"... an innate national arrogance of the part of most Americans..."? And what study, survey, poll, or statistical pool do you get "most Americans" from?

Allan, you say "First of all, last year Georgia (The country) started a mini war with Russia and the West turned it around and said Russia started it.
This was a bold faced, God-Damned lie folks!"

Now, if I understand recent world history correctly, here's what happened. Please do correct me if I'm wrong! I'm after the truth as much as you are. Here goes:
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The 1991–1992 South Ossetia War between Georgians and Ossetians had left most of South Ossetia under de-facto control of a Russian-backed internationally-unrecognised regional government.

During the night of 7 to 8 August 2008, Georgia launched a large-scale military attack against the self-proclaimed Republic of South Ossetia. The following day, Russia reacted by deploying combat troops in South Ossetia and launching bombing raids into Georgia proper.
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If the above is an accurate rendition of what happened, then technically Russia did indeed start the war with Georgia. Georgia attacked South Ossetia. South Ossetia was not part of Russia according to the international community since the de-facto Russian regional government was unrecognized by the international community. After Georgia attacked South Ossetia, Russia attacked Georgia.

Is this the lie you are talking about? And, by using the words "the West", are you referring to the United States in particular?

So, you still thinking about it, or what?