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by John Philipp
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Thought~Byte No. 26

December 17, 2008 12:13 AM EST
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Thought~Byte No. 26

 

 

 

Concept and words by John Philipp. Drawings by Phil Frank.

(The comments are where the wisdom is found.)

 

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Comments: 115

John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 12:13am EST
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Greg Schiller Dec 17, 2008, 12:17am EST
(sigh) Heartbreaking.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Dec 17, 2008, 12:36am EST
I know, and I think it's sad to be driven by fear. They may very well find they in being alone they have a best companion and refuge in themselves, and great joy as well. Distinguishing the difference from "loneliness", and "alone", the greatest loneliness I've felt -- sometimes -- was being in the "crowd".

I do so dig Greta Garbo's,

"I vant to be alone." Go girlfriend!
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Patrick T. Dec 17, 2008, 12:36am EST
Bitter sweet isn't it. The Insecurity of a person's soul is revealed here.
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Beth H. Dec 17, 2008, 12:43am EST
Unfortunately, too true. And even when they see it, they may still make the same choice.
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~Sia McKye~ Dec 17, 2008, 12:44am EST
Existing or having a life.

Having a life means also getting to know and being comfortable in your own skin. I've always thought being a whole person more important. Having someone share your life with is a bonus. Having a life means you have something to share...
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anna vee Dec 17, 2008, 12:46am EST
Oh my gosh, it's a leg humper!
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Linda T. Dec 17, 2008, 1:49am EST
Guilty as charged. Far too easy to stay in a bad relationship than to dig your way out and venture out alone.
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Glome . . . Dec 17, 2008, 2:42am EST
True.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Dec 17, 2008, 5:33am EST
Something just happened that causes me to correct myself, John. Greta Garbo did NOT say that at all. What she did say though, was,

I vant to be let ALONE!!!!!!!!!!

LOL. Bless her lovely heart.

That is what I miss about home. I'm going home, soon. But I do not think I shall be able to jump into the leetle vehicle and head out into the wide open country spaces the way I once was able to do -- breathing room, space, getting away from people, getting away from it all. [Big sigh].

I tried to find those places of refuge last year, and they were all gone.

People will tell you that I have been known to just tell them,

GO! Go home!

Relationships? Hmmm. When they are good, oooooh yeah, but the bad ones?

I recall one where I walked, and it was HEAVEN, just to be . . .ALONE.

I did not care -- at that time -- if I never saw human face for the rest of my life. I tell you,

it was HEAVEN!!!

Okay, enough of my business.
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JOHN BECK Dec 17, 2008, 5:43am EST
It is often difficult to fathom, John. I had a patient who had a good job and was intelligent, personable and attractive and related well to people. She confessed to me that whenever her husband went out drinking, which was often, she could count on being beaten when he got home. Yet she told me that she would swear on a bible in court that she had never told me that! She elected to stay with the bum!
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Karen F. Dec 17, 2008, 6:09am EST
I chose to be happy and I am alone...as far as not having a mate in life at this point. I can be in a crowd of people and still be alone. It isn't being with people that means that you aren't alone, it is what you chose to do with the situation that matters. I am finding that I have to make my own happiness and not count on having someone in my life to make me happy. Having someone in your life doesn't alway make you happy.
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JOHN BECK Dec 17, 2008, 6:13am EST
That seems to be true for you and some others, Karen, but there are many who fit the caption.
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Kathy W. Dec 17, 2008, 6:17am EST
Some folks use other people as cushions or bumpers for their own world. Crowding other people in all the corners and niches to keep them from introspection.

I also know some folks who use "make busy" the same way. They get so caught up in the lists and details of "the doing" that they never have to slow down and take a long evaluative look at who and what they are, what they stand for, or what their "gifts" are.

I guess I kinda think of folks as Pos or Neg. Others call it "givers" or "takers."
I just call it "theirs" and am thankful it isn't mine.

Good post John P.
Blessed be,
Wilka
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Wilhelmine Estabrook Dec 17, 2008, 6:21am EST
Someone in an abusive relationship once told me: Batter the devil you know than the devil you don't.
It isn't my way. That kind of relationship would smother me to death. I believe learning to live on my own is the biggest gift I ever gave myself. All that freedom to think or talk without being put down. Places you can go if I wished. The biggest decisions are what to do with all that freedom. All that responsibility.
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regina k. Dec 17, 2008, 6:41am EST
so true so very true
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Larry M. Dec 17, 2008, 7:21am EST
Sad but true. It's remarkable how few good husbands there are out there and how many of the other kind who are married. (I'll not speak to the wives' side of that proposition.)

Of course, when one is with someone who cares nothing for one, one is still alone.
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Dec 17, 2008, 7:36am EST
I had a non-productive relationship that I really spawned upon myself and the man because I was over 40 and unattached and was tired of being alone. He was very much a companion and we shared a lot of generational history but, in the end, he was looking for someone to enable his self-proclaimed seclusion from the world and that was not what i wanted. He refused to do anything with my family; in fact, he never even met them even though we had been dating and dating exclusively for more than a year and we all lived within 50 miles of each other so distance was no excuse. He told me once that I was all of the world he needed to see and I knew this was not what I wanted. He did not go out to eat once he discovered I could cook; used my good nature to enable him in his desire to avoid the world and his family; ignored my needs because, after all, was he not giving me the joy of his company? and I spent all of my time taking care of him and ignoring my own friends and family. Within months of dating Mel, my husband, he was involved in family events, knew enough to share insults with my brothers and was liked by my niece and nephew as well as winning over my mom, even though he was d-i-v-o-r-c-e-d. She thought that divorced meant he would leave me too if we married because he had used the escape of divorce to wiggle out of matrimony but he changed her mind and made her his #1 fan. I did what your thought byte portrays but I got out and lived to enjoy life.
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mary bryant Dec 17, 2008, 8:03am EST
true
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Bob B. Dec 17, 2008, 8:20am EST
It's so sad when that happens. Merry Christmas!
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Bert Van Essen Dec 17, 2008, 8:38am EST
I lived this for 20 years before deciding if the horse is dead the best plan is to dismount.
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Barney JP Not Smarter than an 5th Grader Shel Is Pres of Gather Dec 17, 2008, 8:54am EST
I have seen this too many times.
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Dec 17, 2008, 9:00am EST
Yeah, I complain about my chronic loneliness but I have to wonder how many times the Lord may have averted me from being chained to unhappiness. Just hope the right one comes along soon.

:+)
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Tracy Fabre Dec 17, 2008, 9:09am EST
John, there is no comment that can surpass the simple truth of the statement itself.
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Patricia J. Dec 17, 2008, 9:17am EST
I think I've made the right choice this time. We will see as I am certainly going forward with this relationship.
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blaine d. Dec 17, 2008, 10:05am EST
its a sad situration!!!
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Nana to Seven Cutiepies Dec 17, 2008, 10:17am EST
You got that right!
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JoAnne D. Dec 17, 2008, 10:21am EST
Unfortunately, I find this to be too true.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:38am EST
Agreed, Blaine.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:39am EST
Thanks, Nana.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:39am EST
It is unfortunate, JoAnne.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:39am EST
Patricia, I wish you the best.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:39am EST
Thanks, Tracy. I appreciate that.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:40am EST
"(sigh) Heartbreaking"

True, Greg, and missing the opposite, which would be heartmaking.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:40am EST
"Distinguishing the difference from "loneliness", and "alone",

An important facet to this Byte, Nee.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:40am EST
"The Insecurity of a person's soul is revealed here"

An apt way to put it, Patrick. Thanks.

Insecurity is another facet of this Byte.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:51am EST
"And even when they see it, they may still make the same choice."

Or, Beth, convince themselves they didn't see it.

Denial is another aspect of this Byte.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:51am EST
"I've always thought being a whole person more important. Having someone share your life with is a bonus. Having a life means you have something to share..."

Well stated, Sia.

You need to be whole to share in an authentic manner.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:51am EST
"Oh my gosh, it's a leg humper!"

Anna, maybe that's what dogs are trying to do too — stay in a relationship.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:51am EST
"Far too easy to stay in a bad relationship than to dig your way out and venture out alone"

Linda, you raise the whole question of "convenience."

I think it is both a factor and a rationalization.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:52am EST
Thanks, Glome.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:52am EST
"breathing room, space, getting away from people, getting away from it all. "

Nee, that may be a good measure of your comfort in a relationship — if you feel the need to scream "I vant to be let ALONE!!!!!!!!!!"
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:52am EST
"She elected to stay with the bum!"

John, I don't know much about the causes of "battered wife syndrome" and I think it is more than just a harder game of this Byte.

Maybe not.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:53am EST
"It isn't being with people that means that you aren't alone, it is what you chose to do with the situation that matters."

Good point, Karen.

Choosing happiness (or unhappiness) is another aspect of this Byte.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:53am EST
"That seems to be true for you and some others, Karen, but there are many who fit the caption."
True, John. In fact, we all do in one way or another.

How many times have you been in a situation you let "go on too long?" At work, with friendships, etc.

In addition to the personal insecurity layer of this Byte, there is also something about avoiding conflict.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:53am EST
"Some folks use other people as cushions or bumpers for their own world. Crowding other people in all the corners and niches to keep them from introspection."

Wilka, what a wonderful analogy.
Thank you.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:54am EST
"Someone in an abusive relationship once told me: Batter the devil you know than the devil you don't."

Wilhelmine, an excellent point. People say that to rationalize their remaining ... forgetting it is based on the assumption that there will always be a devil in a relationship.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:54am EST
Thanks, Regina.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:54am EST
"when one is with someone who cares nothing for one, one is still alone"

Larry, you have just surfaced another important aspect to this Byte.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:54am EST
"I did what your thought byte portrays but I got out and lived to enjoy life."

Good for you, Donna, and thanks for sharing your example.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:54am EST
Thanks, Mary.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:55am EST
I agree, Bob, it is sad. Merry Christmas to you.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:55am EST
"if the horse is dead the best plan is to dismount."

Bert, that is the perfect expression for this Byte.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:55am EST
Agreed, Selene. =(
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:55am EST
"I have seen this too many times."

Me too, Barney, and when you are thinking about it you see even more.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:55am EST
"I have to wonder how many times the Lord may have averted me from being chained to unhappiness"

Hopefully you had something to do with that as well, Robert.
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Lou Anne L. Dec 17, 2008, 11:10am EST
Three Dog Night sang a song about this....
BUT YOU KNOW....alot of the problem in choosing unhappiness....is placing false expectations on what someone else needs to do to make you happy....
Not to say one cannot find some rousing debate over unhappiness...but I tend to keep my SUPER fairy tales and expectations in a trinket box anymore...and if I choose to "wallow" in them, I try to do it at my own expense...
Creating relationships with people outta "fluff" is a sad song waiting to happen.....
but calling a relationship "lonely" because they endup being human....is well....the cost of false advertisement..LOL
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 11:35am EST
"a lot of the problem in choosing unhappiness....is placing false expectations on what someone else needs to do to make you happy."

As well, Lou Ann, as the assumption that what someone else does is what will effect your happiness.

Also, SUPER fairy tales and expectations should never, eve,r be kept in the same box.
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Bill W. Dec 17, 2008, 11:46am EST
If you choose to be unhappy rather than be alone, then you must be even more unhappy when alone. Otherwise you are a masochist of some kind. So we're dealing with the "alone" part. Sorry, I just had to think that through. Somehow we have to get people to value themselves to a point that they are, if not ecstatic, at least pleasantly ok with themselves. I wish I could help people do that. I would do it for free and be the busiest person on the planet.

Rest easy
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Bob Cronley Dec 17, 2008, 11:59am EST
I am an only child, so being alone doesn't bother me.
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David W. Dec 17, 2008, 12:11pm EST
OH John, I looked to you for a smile and instead I am reminded of some of my friends. How little life means when you have to hang on to emptiy hearts for companionship.

Here is something I heard once upon a time.

"There are those people who don't like themselves and then they have to take that person they don't like everywhere they go."
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David S. Dec 17, 2008, 12:46pm EST
Perhaps this one is a little beyond me?
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Haim Kadman Dec 17, 2008, 1:17pm EST
How true! Thanks John it's a good one.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:21pm EST
Glad you liked it, Haim.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:21pm EST
"Somehow we have to get people to value themselves to a point that they are, if not ecstatic, at least pleasantly ok with themselves. I wish I could help people do that."

I'd start with parents, Bill.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:21pm EST
Thanks, Marilyn.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:21pm EST
"I am an only child, so being alone doesn't bother me."

Bob, from the comments above that would indicate that you don't feel lonely when you are alone.

I wonder if that ties to what an only child experiences?
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:21pm EST
"How little life means when you have to hang on to emptiy hearts for companionship."

Another excellent phrase, David. Thank you.

I also LOVE the quote.
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Larry H. Dec 17, 2008, 2:21pm EST
THANKS FOR SHARING..
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:22pm EST
David, A Byte is never "beyond you" it may not be making a connection that is relevant to you at this time — or ever.

(That is assuming you remembered to take your meds :)
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 2:22pm EST
Larry, you're welcome.
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Marie J. R. Dec 17, 2008, 3:22pm EST
Both are important,,, depends,,,
Bless you John dear friend,,,
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K D. Dec 17, 2008, 3:27pm EST
That's a very sad place to be. Also, the motivation not to be alone is a very strong one.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 4:24pm EST
Thanks, Marie.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 4:25pm EST
It is strong, K D. But sometimes the "solution" is a copout.
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Debra B. Dec 17, 2008, 5:37pm EST
Good one. *** I am alone, and there are times when I think that I am unhappy because of it. But whether or not I am happy MUST be something I control, not another person --- otherwise I will never be happy. Clear as mud, I know, but it make sense to me (and that's what matters).
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Sheila Deeth Dec 17, 2008, 5:53pm EST
Nice one.
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Georgiana S. Dec 17, 2008, 7:56pm EST
Being happy is being alone!
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 7:59pm EST
Clear to me, Debra. And you are right.

Being happy with yourself comes first and is a precursor to being happy in a relationship.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 7:59pm EST
Thanks, Sheila.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 8:00pm EST
but not the only way to be happy, Georgiana.
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Jules ~ Dec 17, 2008, 8:06pm EST
Oh, boy. Soooo true. It's amazing how we make our relationships, unhealthy or not, our comfort zones. Then even though we know it's time to go, we cling. Taking that first step out of, and away from our comfort zones is one of the hardest things we ever have to do. But do it, we must. If we truly want to be happy.

Yep. I've given this one a lot of thought. :)
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 8:27pm EST
Good, Jules. Apparently you have.

I like the concept of "comfort zone." That's clearly one of the dynamics at play here.
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Robert S. Dec 17, 2008, 8:39pm EST
I enjoy alone time. Alone is better than a bad relationship and not as good as a good relationship. The problem arises when you can't tell the difference.
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Jan S. Dec 17, 2008, 8:56pm EST
Sometimes the short term payoffs of stay together outweigh the risks of freedom.
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APE 131313 Dec 17, 2008, 9:16pm EST
Wow....talk about nerves being STRUCK! Interesting comments for sure!
I have saved the graphic because it reminds me of my sister who is grooming her 5th future EX husband.
I was miserable in a marraige for 11 years but have found myself to be a leading expert at DIVORCE. At least that has lasted for 35 years!
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*LORA* M. Dec 17, 2008, 9:26pm EST
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:41pm EST
"Alone is better than a bad relationship and not as good as a good relationship. The problem arises when you can't tell the difference."

That's another side to this, Robert.

Well said and thanks.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:42pm EST
"Sometimes the short term payoffs of stay together outweigh the risks of freedom'

Jan, we haven't yet discussed "freedom" as an aspect of this Byte. Thanks.

Personally, I'm not a believer in "trade-offs."
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:43pm EST
"Wow....talk about nerves being STRUCK!"

APE that's what I find interesting with Bytes. One day they mean nothing. Two months later it's ... what you said.

DIVORCE is definitely an art not a science.
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John Philipp Dec 17, 2008, 10:43pm EST
Thanks, Lora.
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Angela A. Dec 18, 2008, 10:59am EST
I'd rather be in hell, then stay where I'm unhappy.
I found the love of my life, thank goodness.
And, don't have to settle for second best.
I love my hubby, he's truly wonderful.
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John Philipp Dec 18, 2008, 11:59am EST
Agnela, even when someone hasn't found the love of their life, they don't need to settle for second best.
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Adina P. Dec 18, 2008, 1:13pm EST
If youth only knew: if age only could !!


.i married one too many times for the wrong reasons...
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John Philipp Dec 18, 2008, 3:25pm EST
It's a pretty popular club, Atlantis.

It's not the mistakes in life that count, it's whether you learn from them.
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Jerri H. Dec 18, 2008, 6:13pm EST
It seems that there are many who follow that path. No wonder why so many divorces happen. I myself have had one as well.
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John Philipp Dec 18, 2008, 6:45pm EST
It seems easy to talk yourself out of thinking about it when you feel wanted.

It's like forgetting to read the small print.
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donna h. Dec 18, 2008, 8:49pm EST
hi all
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