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by John Philipp
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Thought~Byte No. 128

November 18, 2008 10:31 PM EST
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Thought~Byte No. 128




Concept and words by John Philipp. Drawings by Phil Frank.

(The comments are where the wisdom is found.)

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Comments: 109

John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:32pm EST
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Mariana T. Nov 18, 2008, 10:33pm EST
Love it! Thanks. Salud
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Larry H. Nov 18, 2008, 10:36pm EST
AMUSING THANKS FOR SHARING..
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Tracy Fabre Nov 18, 2008, 10:37pm EST
I gotta do everything myself. Darn it.
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Leah Christensen Nov 18, 2008, 10:37pm EST
Something interesting for a lot of people to think about.
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Jean, just the teensiest bit odd, F. Nov 18, 2008, 10:37pm EST
I take the 5th...


And the wisdom is in the comments, huh? Rather like ANOTHER Gather group I could name... But won't, of course... ;^D
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Karen E. Nov 18, 2008, 10:38pm EST
It is an odd job indeed.
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David S. Nov 18, 2008, 10:40pm EST
Both. I hope!
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Linda T. Nov 18, 2008, 10:46pm EST
sometimes selflove is the best love. We all could use some self pampering now and then.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Nov 18, 2008, 10:47pm EST
I doing a Larry this time:

Thanks for sharing, John.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:48pm EST
An interesting perspective, David.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:49pm EST
And one not to be delegated, Karen.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:49pm EST
Thanks, Mariana.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:49pm EST
You're welcome, Larry.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:49pm EST
"I gotta do everything myself"

Not everything, Tracy, but this especially.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:49pm EST
"Something interesting for a lot of people to think about"

That's the idea, Leah.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:49pm EST
You realize, Jean, that taking the fifth is not speaking to yourself in this instance. :)

You can mention anything you want.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:50pm EST
"sometimes selflove is the best love."

Or the "first love," Linda.

If we don't love ourselves we cannot accept it from others.
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John Philipp Nov 18, 2008, 10:51pm EST
Good imitation, Nee.
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Lance L. Nov 18, 2008, 11:05pm EST
It took me a while, but I got rid of the old contractor and then spent my time in the DIY part of the store. Now I can let everybody plug my toilet and not worry about it. Yeah . . . .
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Lydia (part of the solution) Shelley Nov 19, 2008, 5:03am EST
Depends upon the day
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Azian Chaos Nov 19, 2008, 5:40am EST
Are we talking physical or emotional "love"? LOL kidding...
Yes, I'll move this up the list John, thank you for the reminder. (Even if I do go blind )
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Karen F. Nov 19, 2008, 5:58am EST
I love myself...I haven't found anyone special to love me yet...but will continue to love myself. It took a while to get here.
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lynn a. Nov 19, 2008, 6:06am EST
Oh my.
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JOHN BECK Nov 19, 2008, 6:49am EST
First things first.
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Lois Lane Leaving priceless pearls of wisdom Nov 19, 2008, 7:12am EST
Both dear. I like to keep all my bases covered.
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Adina P. Nov 19, 2008, 7:13am EST
"Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none. "
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Larry M. Nov 19, 2008, 7:26am EST
I have always had to do it for myself. If I ever figure out how to get someone else to love my I might give that a try.
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Greg Schiller Nov 19, 2008, 8:17am EST
Hmmmmm, I was trying to come up with an idea for a part-time business. Not bad.
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Jules ~ Nov 19, 2008, 8:28am EST
Where's the 'all of the above' option? :)
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Kushal Poddar Nov 19, 2008, 8:30am EST
Great job!
Greg is love a part time business too?
Shadow cemetery ~:
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Jennifer aka Jenn B. Nov 19, 2008, 8:42am EST
LOL..gotta digest this one ....but Ditto to what David S said...
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Denise E. Nov 19, 2008, 9:08am EST
Good one
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Judi F. Nov 19, 2008, 9:30am EST
isn't that what dogs are for?
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Nov 19, 2008, 9:34am EST
I probably could have let this one go by John. Love of self can be fleeting especially when one's work and livelihood are taken away. Then again, maybe I needed a reminder that God intended his children to be loved. I don't know.
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Nov 19, 2008, 9:34am EST
WOW, Judi, you chimed in with the perfect answer at the perfect time. God bless my dog.
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Wade A. Nov 19, 2008, 9:48am EST
I take this as approval seeking behavior, which I find sad. if you can't be comfortable with "thine own true self" then you have a hard road ahead in life. I feel one must be able to love themselves before being able to truly love someone else.
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Holli G. Nov 19, 2008, 10:03am EST
lol, this is great!
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:31am EST
Thanks, Holli.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:31am EST
"Now I can let everybody plug my toilet and not worry about it."

Lance, if that's a metaphor for how to live life, I love it.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:32am EST
"Depends upon the day"

If you're referring to "care for," I'd agree, Lydia.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:32am EST
Azian, the nice thing about loving yourself is that you know when it's 100 percent sincere.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:32am EST
"will continue to love myself. It took a while to get here."

It often does, Karen.

Once in place, the rest will follow.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:32am EST
"Oh my."

Oh K, Lynn.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:33am EST
"First things first."

Exactly right, John and a key point in this Byte.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:33am EST
"Both dear. I like to keep all my bases covered."

Nothing wrong with both, Lois.

In reality, you can't let someone else take on this responsibility, much as we'd like to sometimes.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:33am EST
"Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none. "

If you include yourself on the "all" Atlantis, then that's a great motto.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:33am EST
"If I ever figure out how to get someone else to love my I might give that a try."

It's not something you figure out, Larry.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:33am EST
"Hmmmmm, I was trying to come up with an idea for a part-time business. Not bad."

Maybe we could franchise it, Greg.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:34am EST
It comes gratis when you love yourself, Jules.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:34am EST
Thanks, Poddar.

(For Greg, everything has business potential.)
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:34am EST
"gotta digest this one"

Good idea, Jenn. There's more here than meets the mind.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:34am EST
Thanks, Denise.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:34am EST
"isn't that what dogs are for?"

Judi, dogs are to remind you what you're missing by not loving yourself with abandon.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:35am EST
"Love of self can be fleeting especially when one's work and livelihood are taken away."

Robert, don't confuse love of self with work and livelihood — your dog doesn't.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:35am EST
"I feel one must be able to love themselves before being able to truly love someone else."

Wade, that is a key point. Thanks.
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Beaker (just Beaker) Nov 19, 2008, 10:47am EST
Some from column A, some from column B...one without the other in this case just wouldn't be satisfying.
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Gessy D. Nov 19, 2008, 11:49am EST
Why can't somebody do both for me.... lol
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 11:53am EST
Agreed, Beaker and the other without the one would be fruitless.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 11:53am EST
They can, Gessy and that someone is you.
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Nov 19, 2008, 12:00pm EST
Ahh, Obi-John, but my dog has attained greater wisdom and higher Zen then I have.
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Nancy L. Nov 19, 2008, 12:06pm EST
Gotta have both for true happiness.

Dogs are great for providing unconditional love to anyone who feels alone or is without a special someone. They are always happy to see you- unless you're taking them to the vet. :)
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Vivian P. Nov 19, 2008, 12:11pm EST
Both I do however believe in what Lucy Ball said "You have to love yourself first after that the rest is easy" that may not be the exact but thats the general idea.
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Sheila Deeth Nov 19, 2008, 12:14pm EST
Excellent.
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Bert Van Essen Nov 19, 2008, 12:17pm EST
This really is a great post. I have no trouble saying all should love themselves and not need to feel loved because of otrhers. In truth I do not love myself and want others to do it. Bummer but I am working on it. It takes time to erase following the example of my father.
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Bob Cronley Nov 19, 2008, 12:22pm EST
I try my best to love myself, but I catch myself wanting a divorce, sometimes. :)
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Angela A. Nov 19, 2008, 12:23pm EST
I have to say that it depends.
You can love yourself, by having others love you first.
I truly could not say before I met the man that would be my husband, that I loved myself.
But, after being with him for years, having his love and support, finally gave me that push I needed.
And, I finally love and accept myself for who I am.
Because I had great support from a very loving man..
And, now my children.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:01pm EST
"You can love yourself, by having others love you first."
Excellent point, Angela.

I'd say the love of another can often provide a safe place to learn how to love yourself, which is often a scary process as it means giving up some old attitudes and feelings and venturing onto new ground.

The corollary to this is that a parent's love can provide the same safe environment.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:01pm EST
"my dog has attained greater wisdom and higher Zen then I have.'

As it should be, Robert. Dogs and cats are the benchmark.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:02pm EST
"Dogs are great for providing unconditional love "

And a good example of how unconditional love feels for those who haven't experienced it growing up.

"Gotta have both for true happiness"

Nancy, I'd say both give you a certain type of happiness. If loving yourself is the only option, that will be happiness as well.
Both can be equally fulfilling.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:02pm EST
"You have to love yourself first"

That is what is key, Vivian. Without that, the other is not an option.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:02pm EST
Thanks, Sheila.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:03pm EST
"It takes time to erase following the example of my father."

I understand that, Bert and it's a slightly slippery slope.

Thinking it takes time can make it take time that's not required. You always have to be careful that you are not using others as an excuse for not becoming yourself.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 1:03pm EST
"I catch myself wanting a divorce, sometimes"

LOL, Bob. Guess you're not perfect.

Welcome.
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Marie J. R. Nov 19, 2008, 2:30pm EST
Love your response to Robert,,, this kid needs all the help he can get,,,

Love your Bytes John,,, few words, good sense,,,

Bless you,,,
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Cheri Cabot Nov 19, 2008, 2:37pm EST
both
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 3:06pm EST
And bless you, too, Marie.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 3:07pm EST
That can work, Cheri, if they're in the right order.
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Jerri H. Nov 19, 2008, 3:08pm EST
LOL! Odd jobs ;)
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Vivian A. Nov 19, 2008, 5:13pm EST
John I try not to hate myself. Asking for me to go as far as "love", too much. I try as hard as possible to detour other people from doing it as well. Silly husband just ignored all the sign posts.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 6:22pm EST
Well, Jerri, it is an odd job to have someone else love you instead of yourself. :)
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 6:22pm EST
Well, Vivian, spouses are sometimes like that.

You know — love blinds and all that wonderful silliness.
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Teresa A. Nov 19, 2008, 6:42pm EST
I am not that lazy
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Georgiana S. Nov 19, 2008, 9:14pm EST
Anything you want done right, do it yourself!
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LaRue B. Nov 19, 2008, 9:31pm EST
If I did not love myself, who would love me! Should I expect some one else love some one I could not love? I love myself enough to be married for 40 years to the same wonderful man. As far as paying some one to love, that's not real!
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:29pm EST
Good for you, Teresa.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:29pm EST
LOL, Georgie. Well said.
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John Philipp Nov 19, 2008, 10:30pm EST
"Should I expect some one else love some one I could not love?"

A clever way to look at it, LaRue.

Thanks.
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blaine d. Nov 19, 2008, 11:41pm EST
love thy self frist and ,the rest will follow!! by the way luckly not a repair man saying on his shirt!!!!
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John Philipp Nov 20, 2008, 12:04am EST
The most important part, Arleen ..

The rest follows naturally.
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John Philipp Nov 20, 2008, 12:05am EST
"The rest follows naturally."

I wrote that before I saw Blaine's excellent words. Honest.
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Jan S. Nov 20, 2008, 12:22am EST
I agree. We do need to love ourselves before we can love others. We're told to love our neighbors as ourselves, not more, not less.
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Bill W. Nov 20, 2008, 11:07am EST
I assign that task to anyone out there who is willing to take it on. I've found that if I'm willing to do that for others that they will return the favor and I don't have to mess with doing it myself. I've never really thought of a way to love myself, anyway, I think it would make a hell of mess on my mirror.

Rest easy
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John Philipp Nov 20, 2008, 1:01pm EST
Good point, Jan.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Nov 20, 2008, 1:02pm EST
Bill, if we used the term "accepting oneself," would it be better for you — mirrorwise?
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Bill W. Nov 21, 2008, 1:20pm EST
Yeah! But I had a private chuckle with the mirror image. I had another image, too but I won't go there.

It's colder'n hell here.

Rest easy
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John Philipp Nov 21, 2008, 1:24pm EST
Bill, I appreciate your discretion.

68 and sunny here. Sorry, the Chamber of Commerce made me type that.
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Chas Andrews Nov 24, 2008, 5:51pm EST
haha
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Roberta Moto Nov 24, 2008, 7:05pm EST
I agree with one of the others- I had to have the love of a terrific husband before I could love myself. Great conversations here as usual
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John Philipp Nov 24, 2008, 7:19pm EST
Hi, Chas.
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John Philipp Nov 24, 2008, 7:19pm EST
It is often others who give us permission to love ourselves, Roberta.

However you get there.
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