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by John Philipp
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Thought~Byte No. 13

September 17, 2008 12:51 AM EDT
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Thought~Byte No. 13


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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 12:52am EDT
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Sep 17, 2008, 12:57am EDT
I hope the water's deep, and that he knows how to swim.
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Angela A. Sep 17, 2008, 1:01am EDT
Like riding without a helmet? Would that be a poor decision, John?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Snicker.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 1:08am EDT
The question is did he learn anything, Nee?
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 1:09am EDT
In this case, Angela, most definitely.

This inquiring mind is going to bed. On the 'morrow.
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Steph-in-NE ..... Sep 17, 2008, 1:22am EDT
that my dear friend is my position in life,,
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Tanya P. Sep 17, 2008, 1:33am EDT
Hey, I have an Idea!! If we live through the poor decision, we'll hopefully have learned something and, just perhaps, that will make us "enlightened"??
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Norvona J. Sep 17, 2008, 2:40am EDT
" ......If we live through the poor decision, we'll hopefully have learned something.......

Tanya, if that were the case, wouldn't that turn the "bad" decision into a "good" one? In which case, maybe there really aren't any "bad" decisions after all, John. :-)
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D.B. D. Sep 17, 2008, 2:43am EDT
Obviously he was completely in his right mind. There must have been nothing left.

The chasm is always greatest between between your ears and is split precisely in the middle by the razor's edge of realty. The perpetual question of balance between emotion and logic. Sometimes the expectation or the possibility for success is greater than consequence of failure.

Humpty was pushed. Who pushed him? His friend or his courage and desire to achieve success? Or do you expect us to fall for the possibility that he simply fell for a bad idea?

Each of us
A cell of awareness
Imperfect and incomplete
Genetic blends
With uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt that's far too fleet

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose freewill
(peart)
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Glome . . . Sep 17, 2008, 3:05am EDT
OUCH!
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Linda T. Sep 17, 2008, 3:21am EDT
every idea must be thoroughly fetted
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JOHN BECK Sep 17, 2008, 5:10am EDT
A lot of ideas are rejected out of hand on the basis that they're dumb. Are we always wrong when we label an idea that way? If a person acts upon a dumb idea with an adverse outcome, I contend that the idea was dumb AND the decision was poor.
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Jennifer aka Jenn B. Sep 17, 2008, 5:57am EDT
Some peoples thought process seem to exclude the full picture and they can only learn the hard way
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Kay & Snowy Cat Sep 17, 2008, 7:37am EDT
You know you are right! I don't think they are wearing helmets!
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David W. Sep 17, 2008, 7:42am EDT
Been there, done that. I might even have written the book.
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Elaine S. Sep 17, 2008, 8:18am EDT
you're right about that
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Sep 17, 2008, 8:25am EDT
What's this? A Prelude to November ?
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Kelly Kay Sep 17, 2008, 9:01am EDT
I like it!
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:01am EDT
It is all about choices, Judi.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:01am EDT
Thanks, Kelly.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:02am EDT
"that my dear friend is my position in life"

The guy on the cliff or the guy in the air, Steph? :)
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:02am EDT
"If we live through the poor decision, we'll hopefully have learned something and, just perhaps, that will make us "enlightened"

Enlightenment has happened in weirder ways, Tanya.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:03am EDT
"If that were the case, wouldn't that turn the "bad" decision into a "good" one? In which case, maybe there really aren't any "bad" decisions after all, John."

Norvona, it still would have been a bad decision with a good result.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:03am EDT
D. B., great poem. Thanks.

"Or do you expect us to fall for the possibility that he simply fell for a bad idea?"

No, I'm saying there are no bad ideas.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:03am EDT
Right you are, Glome. I'm sure it's going to smart.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:04am EDT
"every idea must be thoroughly fetted"

Assuming you mean "vetted" Linda, I'd say every decision can benefit from a thorough vetting.

Ideas are too fragile to survive the process.

We have a tendency to vet too early — a mental "rush to judgment," if you will.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:05am EDT
And I see, John Beck is on the same wavelength.

John, I've been in the "idea" business for decades. No idea is "dumb" and without value. Admittedly, some will not grow up to have as much value as others.

It's like asking a kid in third grade a physics question and then deciding he'll never be a scientist.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:05am EDT
"Some peoples thought process seem to exclude the full picture and they can only learn the hard way"

Jenn, some might say that we all learn the hard way, we just don't always remember the process.

The people I worry about are the ones who don't learn the hard way.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:05am EDT
None of us are wearing helmets, Kay.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:06am EDT
"Been there, done that. I might even have written the book."

David, I think we've all written that book — or at least a few choice chapters.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:06am EDT
Thanks, Elaine.
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Jennifer R. Sep 17, 2008, 9:06am EDT
This is true.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:06am EDT
"What's this? A Prelude to November ?"

LOL Robert. Thanks.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 9:07am EDT
Right you are, Jennifer.

(Love the shades!)
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~Sia McKye~ Sep 17, 2008, 10:56am EDT
Isn't that like saying there are no stupid questions just stupid people afraid to speak up and ask for clarification?

John the new is full of poor decisions...
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Sharon B. Sep 17, 2008, 11:25am EDT
cute
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Kris P. Sep 17, 2008, 11:54am EDT
I wonder if we all have a quota of poor decisions to make, I know I have made a least a few in my lifetime. Just curious to know if I have meet my quota yet, I hope so.
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Jerri H. Sep 17, 2008, 12:06pm EDT
Ok...I let the other guy try it first ;)
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 12:07pm EDT
"John the new is full of poor decisions..."

Sia, we call them "experiments."
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 12:07pm EDT
Thanks, Sharon.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 12:07pm EDT
Haven't we all, Danny boy.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 12:08pm EDT
"I wonder if we all have a quota of poor decisions to make"
Wouldn't that be wonderful, Kris.

I'm afraid it's open-ended.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 12:10pm EDT
"let the other guy try it first "

Jerri, a brilliant strategy that works with everything except Thought~Byte No. 119
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LaRue B. Sep 17, 2008, 12:11pm EDT
That is very true!
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Debra B. Sep 17, 2008, 12:26pm EDT
Ask yourself, "what's the worst thing that can happen if I do (or don't) do this" then make your decision accordingly. Unfortunately, I learned that a little late and am still having to deal with the consequences of some bad decision. But, I did learn and life goes on...
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Sheila Deeth Sep 17, 2008, 12:54pm EDT
Certainly plenty of them.
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~Sia McKye~ Sep 17, 2008, 1:55pm EDT
I meant news and you're right, experiments.

John, I've always figured no one has to go far to find themselves. The hard part is what you do once you've looked in the mirror and seen the scars and the good things...
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 2:37pm EDT
Sia, funny — "new" and "news." Bother are interesting comments.

I see this a little differently. The hard part is seeing the scars (and for some people seeing the good things, too).

Awareness is the beginning of change in my mind. There's a lot of resistance to both.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 2:37pm EDT
Sue, let us know how it comes out. :)
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 2:37pm EDT
Thanks, LaRue.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 2:39pm EDT
"Ask yourself, "what's the worst thing that can happen if I do (or don't) do this" then make your decision accordingly.

A good technique, Debra. Thanks

I wish people also asked themselves, "what's the worst thing that can happen if I develop this idea in my mind?" and made their decision after the idea has had a chance to grow up.

Being in the innovation business, I always guessed that the inventor of the helicopter chose to suspend the Law of Gravity temporarily while he played with his idea.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 2:39pm EDT
No doubt about it, Sheila. All of us.
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Beaker (just Beaker) Sep 17, 2008, 2:57pm EDT
Off I go, into the wild blue yonderrrrrrrrr....
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Heidianna "Coriander" T. Sep 17, 2008, 3:25pm EDT
Oh, so true!!!
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 3:48pm EDT
Die in style. That's my motto too, Beaker.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 3:48pm EDT
Glad you think so, Cori.
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Judi F. Sep 17, 2008, 6:02pm EDT
Um, I'm going to disagree with you. The email someone thought was a good idea to send definitely wasn't. Especially when "they" sent it to the WRONG person.

Very dumb idea.
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Lance L. Sep 17, 2008, 6:06pm EDT
Like thinking about the situation before you raise your hand.
I think there are some students who hear the words "There are no dumb questions" and take it as a challenge to prove the instructor wrong.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 6:13pm EDT
Sounds more like a mistake than an idea, Judi.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 6:13pm EDT
Like all maxim's, Lance, they can be misused.

Good example. Thanks.
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Sep 17, 2008, 7:39pm EDT
yes, that was pretty stupid
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Larry H. Sep 17, 2008, 9:24pm EDT
Good one thanks for sharing..
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K D. Sep 17, 2008, 10:01pm EDT
HA HA HA!!! Isn't that the truth! I agree that every idea is good at some level. However, there is no accounting for the decisions we make.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 10:54pm EDT
Reminds me of Evel Kneivel, Andrea.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 10:54pm EDT
You're welcome, Larry.
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John Philipp Sep 17, 2008, 10:55pm EDT
That is the mystery, K D.

Especially when we make the same decision over and over.
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Jan S. Sep 18, 2008, 3:29am EDT
I'm pretty sure the guy on the way down agrees with this thought byte!
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 10:57am EDT
What can I say, Jan?

When you're right, you're right.
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Sep 18, 2008, 11:06am EDT
When I was teaching, I had an example of both of these concepts happen at once - one of the students asked what he hoped was not too dumb a question but he had not read far enough and it was a bad decision - the question was included in the test questions!

I know sometimes a question seems superfluous but occasionally it is not the question that is dumb but rather the inability of the asker to understand the answer in the way it was presented because s/he was not listening correctly and now the mind is set to hear the answer only if it comes in the requested form. If you have ever taught, there is always one (or more) who being told the assignment is on the board will inevitably ask, "What is our homework, classwork, assignment, etc.?" because that student cannot allow himself to be part of the crowd or reading the board is not his/her cup of tea. Directions on a true/false test always bring the question, "Do you want us to circle the T or the F?" I have, on occasion, made a smart-alecky remark like, "Why, no, I'm a psychic and I will be able to tell your answers by touch..." or "Can you read the board?" and I might get laughs or groans but the asker gets no answer. I finally gave in and if needed replied to an dumb question from every class member rather than make the bad decision to assume or allow them to function as a complete student - they can't.

So, sometimes these two come as a pair to assess or avoid or consider. This byte was not a dumb question but not commenting might be a bad decision or not, ummmm, quess that is one of life's little mysteries...
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Haim Kadman Sep 18, 2008, 3:03pm EDT
That's a great visual lesson John, I'll remember it, thanks.
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golds g. Sep 18, 2008, 3:09pm EDT
so true
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 3:33pm EDT
Gee, Donna, I think that answer is beyond my pay scale?

I guess I see it as part of a good teacher's job to assume the question has a reason and to probe sufficiently to be able to answer in a way the asker can understand.
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 3:33pm EDT
You're welcome, Haim.
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 3:33pm EDT
Glad you think so, Golds.
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Adina P. Sep 18, 2008, 3:38pm EDT
even if they don't know how to swim , the fall will probably kill them ....
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Marie J. R. Sep 18, 2008, 4:11pm EDT
I do agree,,,, Thank you for your comments my friend,,, Bless you,,,
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June B. Sep 18, 2008, 5:35pm EDT
John, Huh? Maybe you haven't noticed. I am the queen of dumb ideas and poor decisions. I can do both. Honest, I'm very talented in that way. The last time it happened I LOL'd for a week. :o)
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 7:35pm EDT
As is often the case, Atlantis.
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 7:35pm EDT
And thank you, Marie.
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 7:36pm EDT
I have noticed, June, and I can't agree.

BTW There are no poor decisions that can cause laughter for a week.
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blaine d. Sep 18, 2008, 7:37pm EDT
i can't go wrong if you go frist!! lol!
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 7:42pm EDT
What about the next time, Blaine?
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June B. Sep 18, 2008, 7:44pm EDT
LOL, I didn't think of it that way.
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John Philipp Sep 18, 2008, 10:41pm EDT
OK, June. Now go back to generating ideas.
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April H. Sep 19, 2008, 11:26am EDT
How true
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Bill W. Sep 19, 2008, 11:33am EDT
I'm with Judi. At least my bride is. She (not Judi) points out my dumb ideas on a regular basis. Thinking she (my bride) would appreciate me pulling weeds in her flower beds was one dumb idea.

Rest easy
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John Philipp Sep 19, 2008, 12:34pm EDT
Thanks, April.
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John Philipp Sep 19, 2008, 12:35pm EDT
Bill, women have a section of memory labeled "dumb ideas of his" always on hold, waiting until they are needed.
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Vivian A. Sep 19, 2008, 2:40pm EDT
I can't agree with the first part of the statement.

PS. Evil Kneivel was a hoot.
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John Philipp Sep 19, 2008, 4:13pm EDT
Vivian, if you treat every idea as a starting point, I stand by my statement.

PS. A hoot he was.
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Tracey W. Sep 20, 2008, 10:53am EDT
Too true!
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John Philipp Sep 20, 2008, 12:37pm EDT
Thanks, Tracey.
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Barney JP Not Smarter than an 5th Grader Shel Is Pres of Gather Sep 21, 2008, 7:45pm EDT
You mean putting a motor on my pogo stick was not a dumb idea?
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John Philipp Sep 21, 2008, 8:07pm EDT
Actually, I think it's kind of cool, Barney.

Trying to use it to clear the cliff — bad decision.
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Patricia J. Sep 28, 2008, 5:25pm EDT
Kind of reminds me of the cayote in the Roadrunner cartoons. Not a good idea.
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John Philipp Sep 28, 2008, 8:00pm EDT
It does at that, Patricia.
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Shelbia C. Sep 29, 2008, 4:53am EDT
Good one
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John Philipp Sep 29, 2008, 7:10am EDT
Thanks, Shelbia.
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Ladybounty ~. Oct 13, 2008, 11:34am EDT
Hopefully the rider wasn't trying to jump this chasm! This is funny in a morbid kind of way! lol
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John Philipp Oct 13, 2008, 11:38am EDT
Thanks, Lori. The drawing is just to illustrate the message.
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