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by John Philipp
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August 10, 2006

Thought~Byte No. 112

July 30, 2008 12:00 AM EDT (Updated: August 05, 2008 10:27 AM EDT)
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Thought~Byte  No. 112

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Comments: 121

Tracy Fabre Jul 30, 2008, 12:07am EDT
My uncle said to my cousin and his bride at their wedding reception, "Patrick, put your hand over hers while I make this toast." He waited until Patrick obeyed, and then smiled. "Now remember this moment, because it's the last time you'll ever have the upper hand."

:-)
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 12:08am EDT
That's great, Tracy. Thanks.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 12:09am EDT
Thought~Bytes are posted every Wednesday. To see all Thought~Bytes and get an email when new ones are posted, please join Thought~Bytes-The Group
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Kimber F. Jul 30, 2008, 12:35am EDT
That's certainly true of my marriage. LOL, thanks for sharing this and for the chuckle. Peace
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Kimberly Ripley Jul 30, 2008, 12:39am EDT
I love this, John!
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Adelaide M. Jul 30, 2008, 12:54am EDT
That's great. My boyfriend will love this.
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Sylvia W. Jul 30, 2008, 1:23am EDT
Very good, for some it's easier than others.
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JoAnne D. Jul 30, 2008, 1:24am EDT
Cute, I can see that.
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Tanya P. Jul 30, 2008, 1:28am EDT
Yeah, right. Maybe his turn will come when he learns to ask for directions (and then follow them).
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Rae M. Jul 30, 2008, 1:38am EDT
cute, really cute.
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Vic Needs Coffee Jul 30, 2008, 1:50am EDT
If momma ain't happy, nobody's happy...lol.
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Bethany C. Jul 30, 2008, 2:21am EDT
I let David be in charge sometimes, too.
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Jan S. Jul 30, 2008, 2:54am EDT
When my aunt and uncle married, they agreed to take turns being president for a year at a time. In the event of a disagreement, the president would break the tie. The first year, both voted, and my uncle was president. The second year, both voted for my aunt. The third year, each voted for themselves. The president, my aunt, broke the tie and she has been president for the past 49 years. She's a smart lady!
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Jennifer N. Jul 30, 2008, 4:35am EDT
That's a cute one. It should be dually noted that sometimes it starts in the other direction as well. *wink*
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kokomo *. Jul 30, 2008, 7:31am EDT
Ack! I cannot relate to this because I never had the upper hand in my marriages! But I gave you a 10 anyway!
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Loretta E. Jul 30, 2008, 7:56am EDT
CUTE
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Jul 30, 2008, 7:59am EDT
We ideally change places in a relationship to even out the "power" balance but this assumes both parties enter the relationship on an even level which is often not the case. I have known females who married the guy they just could not live without only to divorce them because they also could not live WITH them. It is the rare couple who stays married in this easily disposable society and works through a dispute. Problems arise when one makes the money and the other spends - they discussed financial infidelity on THE VIEW yesterday and it seems that is as important an issue as is emotional infidelity or adultery. In my marriage I was never the major earner but when we were dating, I was the only one working for about 6 months and we found so many ways to spend time together on very little money and it made us closer rather than resentful. We would buy an inexpensive meal and take it to a park and walk around looking at nature or ride around seeing the bigger picture of the whole park - very inexpensive. He did odd jobs during the week when I was working so he could take us to the movies or out to a cheap meal or a movie before 5 pm on a Saturday or Sunday. I stopped at a grocery store on my way to his house and bought foods for us as well as some things for him during the week and neither of us was "broke" or felt we were carrying or being carried by the other. We still tell each other when we spend something unless I make an extra on a survey and take the accumulated extras to buy him a surprise. Right now we still have one minor child under child support from another marriage and when that ends in less than two years, we will have more breathing room and more opportunities to invest or travel. Control is mostly an illusion but maintenance is the reality.
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Sharon B. Jul 30, 2008, 8:57am EDT
I would not hold my breath if I were you.
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Kimber L. Jul 30, 2008, 9:53am EDT
This one is cute!
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Chris E. Jul 30, 2008, 10:12am EDT
LOL I love this one!
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:48am EDT
Thanks, Autumnrose.

Humor helps the truth go down is the Thought~Byte motto.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:48am EDT
Thought you might, Chris.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:48am EDT
Well, don't show this to your husband, Kimber F.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:48am EDT
Thanks, Kimber L.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:49am EDT
"That's great. My boyfriend will love this."

Careful, Adelaide. Might scare him off.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:49am EDT
"for some it's easier than others"

This is true of everything, Sylvia.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:49am EDT
But do you practice it, JoAnne?
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:49am EDT
Thanks, Kim.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:50am EDT
"Yeah, right. Maybe his turn will come when he learns to ask for directions (and then follow them)."

Now, Tanya ...
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:50am EDT
Thanks, Jennifer.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:50am EDT
"If momma ain't happy, nobody's happy"

I believe you have captured the operating attitude here, Vic.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:51am EDT
Glad you liked it, Rae.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:51am EDT
"I let David be in charge sometimes, too."

The question is, of what, Bethany.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:51am EDT
That is such a great story, Jan!

Thanks.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:52am EDT
It should be dually noted that sometimes it starts in the other direction as well. *wink*

Jennifer, wink aside, I think men sometimes think it started in the other direction.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:52am EDT
Kokomo, I suggest you relate this to something besides marriage, which is only a context to present the thought.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:53am EDT
Thanks, Loretta.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:53am EDT
Thanks for sharing you example, Donna and for your point: "Control is mostly an illusion but maintenance is the reality."
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:53am EDT
May the day only get better from here, Judi.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 10:53am EDT
"I would not hold my breath if I were you"

Sharon, there are two types of men.

Those who have learned that lesson and those who have not learned it yet.
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Jonathan S. Jul 30, 2008, 11:06am EDT
Power shifts and flows in relationships as a function of communication, which facilitates collaboration. To extrapolate from your cartoon, John, it looks like the female captain is in charge, because she's up front, leading the way with the telescope. But leading the way and giving the orders is pointless if the helmsman doesn't follow them, or if the orders don't make sense. The two have to agree for anything constructive to happen.
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Adina P. Jul 30, 2008, 11:14am EDT
There's only one way to have a happy marriage and as soon as I learn what it is I'll get married again.....(third time they say it's a charm ?)
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 11:43am EDT
Jonathan, communication and collaboration, another important facet of this Byte.

Good for you to see under the humor.
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Sarah Honenberger Jul 30, 2008, 11:44am EDT
I hope that you and Frank will be doing a book of cartoons. Is he syndicated??
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 11:44am EDT
Atlantis, I sure hope there's more than one. :)
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 11:48am EDT
Sarah, long story about the book. I'll discuss it here some day.

Phil was syndicated for several cartoon strips during his career, most recently "The Elderberries."

But he was most famous for his 20 year strip "Farley," the only dedicated strip in a major city newspaper.

As many know, on 9/13/07, Phil Frank, the cartoonist who drew these Thought~Byte pictures, passed on. He will be missed by all who knew him and enjoyed his 30 plus years of cartoon strips such as Farley and The Elderberries.

For those who are interested:

An article I wrote saying Goodbye to Phil
A Life I'd Jump at

And the final The San Francisco Chronicle article (Tuesday 1/1/08) about their long time cartoonist.
Bidding final farewell to cartoonist Phil Frank
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Chas Andrews Jul 30, 2008, 12:08pm EDT
haha
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Christine H. Jul 30, 2008, 12:13pm EDT
I love it and my husband would say it is so true!
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Jul 30, 2008, 12:52pm EDT
Oh, that's beautiful, and my dad would love it!
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Haim Kadman Jul 30, 2008, 1:24pm EDT
Well that's not a bad example at all, I've known cases in which she just complains; while there are societies in which it's quite the opposite. Still it's a very good one.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 1:34pm EDT
You're right, Haim. This falls along a spectrum.

It also raises the question whether you're happy if a promise is never fulfilled but you believe that it will be.

Or, that the best a man can ever do with a woman is tie :)
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 1:34pm EDT
"haha" is good Chas, but not as good as "AHA!"
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 1:34pm EDT
I think most husbands would say it's true, Christine.

Of course, not to other husbands.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 1:35pm EDT
Andrea, send it to your dad with my compliments.

Or send it to your mom and let her decide how to deliver it :)
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 1:35pm EDT
Thanks, Dan. Not sure you want to reinforce this point :)
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Beaker (just Beaker) Jul 30, 2008, 1:42pm EDT
Who says you can't believe what you read on the internet? You are honest, John.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 2:46pm EDT
I calls 'em like I sees 'em, Beaker.
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Lance L. Jul 30, 2008, 2:55pm EDT
My wife assures me that my time will come.
and she's been saying this for how long now?
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Diane "stormyz" B. Jul 30, 2008, 3:00pm EDT
lol!
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Jul 30, 2008, 3:17pm EDT
Maybe I wouldn't be alone if I had let it ashift more often?
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Beth H. Jul 30, 2008, 3:20pm EDT
John, you certainly know the ins and outs of male/female relationships. Truth hidden in humor, you peg it every time. Or is it that you find the humor hidden in truth...
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ML S. Jul 30, 2008, 4:00pm EDT
Must be why I keep getting lost and stuff. I'll have to get married and fix that.
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Jonathan S. Jul 30, 2008, 4:17pm EDT
John:

I was once engaged to a woman (and this is a large part of why I am no longer so) to whom and about whom I used, quite accurately, to say "Compromise means I agree to do what you want."

I suspect you know that problem and are alluding to it (among others) with this thought-byte...
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:25pm EDT
Definitely a facet of this Byte, Jonathan.

I went out with a woman in Montreal for a year. She had very definite ideas of how things should be done. Not controlling but obsessive/compulsive. I thought, "These things aren't important. I'll do whatever she wants and see what happens."

It was a very freeing experience for me.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:26pm EDT
She'll continue to say it as long as you believe it, Lance.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:26pm EDT
Thanks, Diane.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:26pm EDT
Thanks, Don. I'll check out the link.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:26pm EDT
Maybe, Robert.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:27pm EDT
It can start at either end, Beth.

Most Bytes started with the truth. When Phil got involved, we started adding the humor.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:27pm EDT
Married men never get lost, Mike, because there is always someone to tell them where they are.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 4:32pm EDT
Don's suggested link above is excellent. Both genders will enjoy this.

The Man Song

Very funny, Don. Thanks.
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ML S. Jul 30, 2008, 4:39pm EDT
I have plenty of people who already think they can tell me where to go. They're called administrators and I don't listen to them either...lol.
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Sheila Deeth Jul 30, 2008, 6:07pm EDT
Fun. Wonder when it's my turn.
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Jerri H. Jul 30, 2008, 6:13pm EDT
*giggle*
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blaine d. Jul 30, 2008, 6:19pm EDT
its a matter of time, tag you it!!
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June B. Jul 30, 2008, 7:09pm EDT
And Mary rode Joseph's ass all the way to Bethlehem.
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Sarah (I want points) Jul 30, 2008, 7:41pm EDT
HAH! Funny. This reminds me of a kayaking trip my husband and I had.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 8:12pm EDT
And who was the boss, Sarah?
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 8:12pm EDT
So. Mike, if you married an administrator ... ?
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 8:12pm EDT
Turn around, Sheila. It may already be your turn :)
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 8:12pm EDT
Thanks, Jerri.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 8:13pm EDT
"its a matter of time, tag you it!!"

The only problem with that, Blaine, is you might be sued for sexual harassment.
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John Philipp Jul 30, 2008, 8:13pm EDT
Now don't get all biblical with me, June.

Remember, Eve was framed ...
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ML S. Jul 30, 2008, 8:21pm EDT
Hmm, people would always be asking if I had a hearing problem since I'd be asking what all the time.
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Angela A. Jul 30, 2008, 11:43pm EDT
I try not to control the man I love. We pretty much have an equal relationship. I'm pretty easy going and try to listen to my hubby's needs.
So, what if my kids listen to me more? That's not my hubby's fault.
He works third shift and sleeps all day. Poor guy.
We have a mutual abiding love, and get along well.
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John Philipp Jul 31, 2008, 12:04am EDT
Angela, I'm happy for you.
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Rae M. Jul 31, 2008, 8:39am EDT
LOL, Don't count on it.
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John Philipp Jul 31, 2008, 9:06am EDT
But she promised ...
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John Philipp Jul 31, 2008, 12:16pm EDT
Don't they always, J R?
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Angela A. Jul 31, 2008, 12:20pm EDT
Thanks John. Hugs.
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John Philipp Jul 31, 2008, 1:44pm EDT
You're welcome, Angela.
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Angela A. Jul 31, 2008, 1:45pm EDT
Come see my new pic John. I'm an angel again. See?
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John Philipp Jul 31, 2008, 2:45pm EDT
That you are, Angela.
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John Philipp Aug 1, 2008, 3:06pm EDT
Ya think, Selene? :)
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Chick J. Aug 1, 2008, 3:09pm EDT
It is sad that some needs the upper hand (male or female). I prefer sharing.
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John Philipp Aug 1, 2008, 3:37pm EDT
Me too, Chick, but there's less humor in that :)
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Mike Ellwood Aug 1, 2008, 3:50pm EDT
She might have the telescope, but he has the rudder. His glum face hides the fact that despite her, no doubt expensive, admiral's uniform, he actually possesses the power.
I'm all for mutuality. They should both be rowing. (I don't mean having a contretemps, but paddling!)
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John Philipp Aug 1, 2008, 6:01pm EDT
"he actually possesses the power."

That's what they'd like us to think, Mike. But look what she has behind her back — a sword or his golf club. Either way, I bet she wields the power.
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Debra B. Aug 1, 2008, 6:28pm EDT
Sometimes it's simply that one doesn't want the power. No power, no responsibility -- or something like that.
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John Philipp Aug 1, 2008, 6:31pm EDT
You certainly have a point there, Debra.

Although some people will blame you even when you don't have the responsibility :)
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Angela A. Aug 1, 2008, 6:39pm EDT
Aww, thanks John. You're an angel too my dear.
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