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by John Philipp
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Thought~Byte No. 83

March 26, 2008 08:40 AM EDT (Updated: May 26, 2008 06:53 PM EDT)
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Thought~Byte No. 83

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Comments: 171

John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:40am EDT
Concept and words by John Philipp. Drawings by Phil Frank.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:40am EDT
I've switched to posting Thought~Bytes in an article format. You can see Thought~Bytes 1 through 71 by searching for "thoughtbytes" under "images" or going to Images on my namespace.
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DIANE D. Mar 26, 2008, 8:47am EDT
sad but true
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Bert Van Essen Mar 26, 2008, 8:48am EDT
You are so right. And it is so sad people are looking for love-all kinds of love-of friends, family-a boss-a boyfriend or girlfriend-how lonely it must be to feel unloved. And Wants and needs are so far apart. And I know how knowing the difference can bring peace to my life.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:49am EDT
Only sad, Dianne, if you don't understand this. You can work on eliminating the "needs."
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:50am EDT
Bert, you're on the right track, my friend.
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Jonathan S. Mar 26, 2008, 8:54am EDT
A nice thought-provoker for my morning, John.

The true difficulty, I think, lies in determining - which is not easy - what is a want and what is a need. We all need love, for example - but love means lots of different things to different people, and sometimes our expectations of what we're entitled to in that respect are colored by our unrealistic wants.

Waiting for perfection, too, is a recipe for never getting anything - not that you have to "settle" for less than the best life you can have, but you can't have it without working at it.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:56am EDT
Good thinking, Jonathan. Try this on for size: needs have a desperate quality to them.
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Larry M. Mar 26, 2008, 8:58am EDT
Needs continue. They are constants. Wants come and go.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:59am EDT
Yes, Kate.

(The second Thought~Byte always needs more thinking — and more coffee)

Have a great day.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 8:59am EDT
Doesn't have to be that way, Larry.
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Sandy M. Mar 26, 2008, 9:03am EDT
awe! that is so true.
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Jack E. Mar 26, 2008, 9:12am EDT
My impulse when I first saw this was -- hmm -- how true!
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vickey w Mar 26, 2008, 9:13am EDT
This is very good John and I do agree with you
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Monica H. Mar 26, 2008, 9:16am EDT
Now I have a totally different perspective on this one. I trust that my needs will be filled by a higher power, but that my wants aren't always met.

I have everything that I need. There's still alot of things that I want in my life, but don't have to have them.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:17am EDT
What else, Sandy?
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:18am EDT
Digest it a while, Jack, and see if it still holds for you.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:18am EDT
Thanks, Vicky.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:19am EDT
If you have everything you "need," Monica, you are using a different definition of the word than is intended here.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Julie (there will always be a rainbow) G. Mar 26, 2008, 9:22am EDT
This is a keeper...
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Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Mar 26, 2008, 9:34am EDT
Hmmmmm. I need air to live. That need is filled. I want to fly like a bird . . . that want cannot be filled. Clearly I'm missing something.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:36am EDT
Yours to keep, Julie.
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Ruth MacGill Mar 26, 2008, 9:37am EDT
The problem is in knowing the difference.
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Melissa L. Mar 26, 2008, 9:37am EDT
very good
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:37am EDT
Using a different definition of "need," Doyle. Want is desire, need is neurotic.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:38am EDT
Ah, that is the nub of the problem. Needs have a desperate "feel" to them, Ruth.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:38am EDT
Thanks, Melissa.
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Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Mar 26, 2008, 9:40am EDT
Ahhhhh . . . the street use of the term and not the accurate use . . . I see (said the blind man)! :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Monica H. Mar 26, 2008, 9:41am EDT
Needs are also what make us human.
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Monica H. Mar 26, 2008, 9:42am EDT
Can I ask what is the definition of the word need that is intended here??
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Mar 26, 2008, 9:42am EDT
Okay, given my present calamity - are you trying to push me off the cliff?

(I came here for a smile and got an 800 lb gorilla - Guess better luck next week...)
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Apryl Just Apryl Mar 26, 2008, 9:43am EDT
So true and as Bert said knowing the difference can make all the difference. I'm glad you've switched back to article format.

Have a great day, John!
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:49am EDT
Yes, Doyle, and ... it got you thinking. One reason to not over define terms. When you do, you eliminate some of the valuable connections people might make for themselves.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:50am EDT
Your first comment is true. For the definition see the answer to Doyle above, Monica.

Or, define it in a way that the statement provides the most value to you.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:51am EDT
AN 800 lb. gorilla with a smile on its face, Robert.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:51am EDT
Thanks, Apryl. yes, I like this format better.
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Robyn F. Mar 26, 2008, 9:54am EDT
so true!
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 9:56am EDT
Thanks, Robyn.
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Doug M. Mar 26, 2008, 9:58am EDT
John,

I think Monica is on to something in her first comment. If one's "spiritual" life, (for lack of a better term), is healthy, needs become less neurotic and desperate.
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Monica H. Mar 26, 2008, 9:58am EDT
Ok Thanks JP----------It really got me to thinking. I like that.
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Tina W. Mar 26, 2008, 10:01am EDT
Very true.
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Monica H. Mar 26, 2008, 10:02am EDT
I remember back when I was a practicing alcoholic and addict (sobered up 5 years ago)and the alcohol/drug WAS a need that was neurotic and desperate.

This article also helped me to see how different people have different definitions of one small word. Thanks for getting the brain cells a going this morning.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 10:09am EDT
Good, Monica. Getting you thinking is the whole point of Thought~Bytes. Coming up with a "right" answer is not.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 10:09am EDT
Thanks, Tina.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 10:10am EDT
You're welcome, Monica. Addictions are definitely "needs" in this sense of the word.

Congratulations on your sobriety.
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penni d. Mar 26, 2008, 10:14am EDT
how too true,john...
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David W. Mar 26, 2008, 10:17am EDT
Where did you get the pciture of me at he candy machine?
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David W. Mar 26, 2008, 10:18am EDT
OH yeah, cartoons have a way of telling it all. They speak to life.
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Bill W. Mar 26, 2008, 10:24am EDT
I'm not buying this one, John. Recall your first semester of Psyc #1? Maslov's heirarchy of needs?? We all strive to meet our needs from basic survival to esteric rewards? We can only satisfy our wants after we have met our needs. I feel safe with that statement because it is logical reasoning as in byte #82 and, of course, it is unassailable.

Rest easy
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dianne j. Mar 26, 2008, 10:48am EDT
Interesting exchange here. My first instinct was to disagree (also thinking of Maslov). But I can see now that you were using a different perspective as well as different definitions. We can all find some truth here. And it certainly got us thinking.
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sheila ~the hapless housewife~ j. Mar 26, 2008, 10:52am EDT
I think if we don't obsess over our "wants" all the time, the "needs" come a lot easier.
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queen.susan . Mar 26, 2008, 11:02am EDT
I really like this one!
great visual!!
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Judi F. Mar 26, 2008, 11:12am EDT
but what if they're the same thing??? (you know, like chocolate. And Orlando Bloom.)
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Shirley U Understand Me S. Mar 26, 2008, 11:12am EDT
we were all created with needs..we just need..ha!..we must find out how to fill them ourselves and not wait for delivery
by the way..in the email..the number written is '33' and takes one to a 'links' page and not here
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Beth H. Mar 26, 2008, 11:20am EDT
John, it's a sign, it's a sign! You've hit on the theme and the payoff lines of the idea I've been floating for Script Frenzy. Needs vs. wants. Cool. Very cool.
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lynn a. Mar 26, 2008, 11:24am EDT
Hmmmm. Good for thought. And on my second cup of coffee now. This is the kind of thinking that could fill up an entire day pondering the great mysteries of life. I think I'm going to like your bytes. Will read more.
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Jerri H. Mar 26, 2008, 11:44am EDT
VERY TRUE~
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Susan B. Mar 26, 2008, 11:48am EDT
Well - not from a vending machine...but :)
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C A. Mar 26, 2008, 11:48am EDT
But John, we need to want. It's one of our driving forces as humans.
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Vivian P. Mar 26, 2008, 12:03pm EDT
In order to be loved we only need to love ourselves
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Daniel Irwin Tucker Mar 26, 2008, 12:12pm EDT
Food for thought, John. By the mass media telling us what we "want" and "need," a larger hole is created in us, a vacuum if you will. We should isolate ourselves as much as possible from the mass media to be truly fulfilled. I know it's not the Little House on the Prairie days, but can still find refuge. Cheers.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:13pm EDT
If you totally love yourself, Vivian, the "needs" as defined here dissolve away. Good point.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:13pm EDT
Then we're in agreement, Penni.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:14pm EDT
Excellent approach, Spartan.

Congratulations on your sobriety.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:14pm EDT
We drew it when you weren't looking, David.

I agree with your cartoon comment.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:14pm EDT
Thanks for sticking with it, Dianne.

Thought~Bytes are best if chewed slowly.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:14pm EDT
That may well be true, Sheila.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
Thank you, Susan.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
Nice try, Judi.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
Good thought, Shirley. Sorry about the mistaken link.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
Alright, Beth. Go for it. (Which is the protagonist, Mr. Need or Mr, Want?)
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
Lynn, some can be pondered even longer.

Have a great day.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
Thanks, Jerri.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:15pm EDT
OK, C A, now you're confusing me. :)
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:16pm EDT
Another good perspective, Daniel. Mass media doesn't bear the culpability and they can make it harder.
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Rima S. Mar 26, 2008, 12:32pm EDT
Reminded me of a song by oasis..Acquiesce --
"Because we need each other
We believe in one another
And I know we're going to uncover
What's sleepin' in our soul
Because we need each other
We believe in one another
And I know we're going to uncover
What's sleepin' in our soul
What's sleepin' in our soul "
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Beaker (just Beaker) Mar 26, 2008, 12:36pm EDT
I'm not the needy type. I've got everything I need, thanks. And I share!
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:47pm EDT
Lovely song, Rima.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:47pm EDT
That's the attitude, J.K.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 12:47pm EDT
I am off to take my granddaughter to the Discovery Museum.

Back in a few hours.

Meanwhile, ponder deep and play nicely amongst yourselves.
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Pat Bertram Mar 26, 2008, 1:39pm EDT
I suppose it's a matter of how you define the words, but to me it's the opposite. Needs can be filled: food, water, clothing, a place to sleep. Wants, the things we think we need but can survive without -- like acceptance, love -- are more difficult to fill.
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Steph-in-NE ..... Mar 26, 2008, 2:04pm EDT
things are so real sometimes
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Wilhelmine Estabrook Mar 26, 2008, 2:22pm EDT
Feeding my needs made me something I didn't want to be....FAT!
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Digital Diva S. Mar 26, 2008, 2:22pm EDT
Thanks for posting this to Best Original Photos, Art and Writing for 2008.
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Mar 26, 2008, 2:45pm EDT
neat and clear concept John...
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Sarah (I want points) Mar 26, 2008, 3:06pm EDT
Very nice... I like this one.
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Willa W. Mar 26, 2008, 3:06pm EDT
This is a time appropriate topic for me since I've been trying to teach my kids a few lessons!! ha ha Silly me !!
Perhaps it is how each individual classifies needs and wants...the most basic concept of economics. Something we have to have vs something we would like to have. Yet, some categories have both needs and wants.
A need is basically something we can't live without. Like water, food, air, shelter, clothes, etc.
A want is something we want for societal purposes, pleasure, to impress.
For example: I need shoes. Walmart: $15.00
I want Roger Vivier shoes of the Stiletto heel, costing many hundreds of dollars.
So I'm left to wonder if it is just the dollar value that separates needs and wants?
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:08pm EDT
You raise an interesting question, Willa and it is in a different context than this Thought~Byte.
Here the needs are emotional, and not healthy emotions.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:08pm EDT
You're welcome, Maria.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:09pm EDT
Understood, Pat and not the way we are defining it for the purpose of this Thought~Byte.
These needs, by definition, can not be filled, and therein lies this message.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:09pm EDT
Thanks, Margo. These took quite a while to whittle them down.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:09pm EDT
And some things are real all the time, Grandma Penguin.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:09pm EDT
There you go, Wihelmine. Another excellent example.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:09pm EDT
You're welcome, Marilyn.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:09pm EDT
Thank you, Bhawana.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:10pm EDT
Glad you like it, Sarah.
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X Tabber Mar 26, 2008, 4:17pm EDT
I think teaching children the difference between wants and needs is the most critical lesson a parent can convey.
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Jan S. Mar 26, 2008, 4:31pm EDT
My daughter's first grade teacher did an exercise with the students on classifying wants and needs. What a valuable life lesson for such young children.
A friend of mine used to tell her children "Wanting is good. You'll get over it."
Not everything we think we need is actually necessary. Maybe we all to list wants vs needs.
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P.W. Dowdy Mar 26, 2008, 4:54pm EDT
I'll let this one stew and awaken me. You're no lightweight, John.
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John Philipp Mar 26, 2008, 4:58pm EDT
Well stated, X. Certainly one of the most important.