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by John Philipp
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Thought~Byte No. 109

July 09, 2008 01:11 AM EDT
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Thought~Byte No. 109


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Comments: 117

John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:11am EDT
Note: I am reposting the early Bytes ( which were originally published as images not articles.)

For a while, every Wednesday will be one new Byte and one older Byte until we get them all in article format.
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Teresa H. Jul 9, 2008, 1:58am EDT
Good
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Jan S. Jul 9, 2008, 2:08am EDT
I'll chew on this byte for a while. I'm not sure about being biased, but I don't think it's necessary for everyone to think alike.
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Kimber F. Jul 9, 2008, 2:20am EDT
As always, I'm going to digest this slowly as you recommend. Good post. Thanks for sharing and peace.
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Patty H. Jul 9, 2008, 2:25am EDT
Very good thought.
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Tanya P. Jul 9, 2008, 3:55am EDT
It takes a lot more energy than I'll ever have, even when I'm recharged. I find it renews my energy if I'll just recognize the bias and drop it out of my life.
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Pat M. Jul 9, 2008, 4:28am EDT
Somebody once told me, the only person you can change is yourself.
When I looked at that, I noticed that most problems I observed in others' relationships was when one was hell bent on changing the other.
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Member Photog Jul 9, 2008, 4:30am EDT
i had a dress cut on the bias before and it didn't fit well at all ;>

cheers,gayle doing more chewing
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Jennifer aka Jenn B. Jul 9, 2008, 4:42am EDT
LOL at what Gayle said...
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Sandra (secretary of Lalaland) C. Jul 9, 2008, 5:26am EDT
thanks for sharing
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Patricia J. Jul 9, 2008, 6:48am EDT
I usually keep my bias' to myself. I don't expect others to share them.
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Rebecca [Future Teacher] Jul 9, 2008, 6:49am EDT
Interesting byte.
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Bert Van Essen Jul 9, 2008, 7:09am EDT
Here is a deeper problem how do I and others realize we have a bias. So it is in self-righteousness that we try to change people. It is easier to change ourselves and how much more content we would be.
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LaRue B. Jul 9, 2008, 7:20am EDT
That's an interesting concept, but if you stand alone it should be easy to make the change, otherwise you run the risk of being ousted from normal society.
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Larry M. Jul 9, 2008, 7:26am EDT
I have been outside normal society all my life. That's the secret of my success. I learned from the errors of others. Naturally I made a lot of my own errors but I learned from those, too.

Being the one who is different makes it easy to spot one's biases.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:44am EDT
Well, said, Larry.

I'll chew on that one.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:45am EDT
"I looked up bias at Dictionary.com and this is one of the definitions:

4. Lawn Bowling. a. a slight bulge or greater weight on one side of the ball or bowl.
b. the curved course made by such a ball when rolled.

Was this what you were referring to? ;)"

Exactly, Shannon. I refer to it as the Slippery Lane Tricky 6-10 Split Theory of Life.
( that's trademarked BTW).
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:45am EDT
That's what Bytes are all about, Jennifer. Inviting you to to the table.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:45am EDT
Thanks, Teresa.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:45am EDT
Jan, dropping your biases doesn't mean conforming to others biases.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:45am EDT
Chew away, Kimber.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:46am EDT
Thanks, Patty.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:46am EDT
"it renews my energy if I'll just recognize the bias and drop it out of my life."

Well said, Tanya. It takes a great deal of energy to maintain your biases.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:46am EDT
"most problems I observed in others' relationships was when one was hell bent on changing the other"

An excellent example of this principle, Pat.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:46am EDT
"i had a dress cut on the bias before and it didn't fit well at all"

Biases never do, Gayle.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:46am EDT
Enjoy, Jenn.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:46am EDT
You're welcome, Sandra.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:47am EDT
Patricia, the trouble with biases, even silent ones, is that they leak all over your behavior.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:47am EDT
Thanks, Rebecca.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:47am EDT
"how do I and others realize we have a bias. So it is in self-righteousness that we try to change people"

Bert, when you feel a need to "change" someone, that's a good indication a bias may be at work.

Anger is another signpost.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:47am EDT
"you run the risk of being ousted from normal society"

I fully understand the concern, LaRue, but as I read this common phrase I thought "Isn't this is a double oxymoron?"
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Jul 9, 2008, 8:15am EDT
Never met a double oxymoron I didn't like.
Met all kinds of morons I didn't like, but never a double oxymoron.
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Mike W. Jul 9, 2008, 8:24am EDT
It takes much less energy. The difficult part is that it also requires humilty.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 8:42am EDT
Me too, Robert.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 8:43am EDT
And realism, Mike.
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JoAnne D. Jul 9, 2008, 8:48am EDT
Interesting, conformity on both sides is another concept.
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Kimber L. Jul 9, 2008, 9:04am EDT
This is so true!!! It takes a tremendous amount of energy but is completely worth the effort!! For example I had a friend who was always negative, always busy and unreliable. Being with her was EXHAUSTING and I was almost to the point of ending the friendship. Instead I took a step back and realized she is never going to change, this is how SHE IS and that maybe my expectations of her were unrealistic. I dropped the expectations and decided to just enjoy her whenever she chose to come around or call without getting annoyed or upset. Just listen to her whine about her problems endlessly without trying to change her or give her advice as I had done in the past. I took away her power to hurt me and I offered unconditional friendship/love in return. She has stopped calling/coming around as much but I feel good about things and don't hold any hatred or anger in my heart. In fact we talked on the phone last week and the conversation lasted longer than they usually do and it was actually much more pleasant then expected. We might be able to save the friendship!
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EM JAY (Gather Director of Chaos & Uprisings) W. Jul 9, 2008, 9:12am EDT
But I am the one who is CORRECT!
LOL
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Donald M. Jul 9, 2008, 9:23am EDT
Like you bytes.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 9:49am EDT
Thanks, J R.

If you mean by this site Thought~Bytes, all the articles (Nos 71-109 are there) and the early ones are being converted from just posted images — but you can view them by searching images for the tag "thoughtbytes" and they'll all pop right up.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 9:49am EDT
"conformity on both sides is another concept"

I'm sure it is JoAnne but not quite sure I understand what you mean.

MORE coffee for me — NOW!
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 9:50am EDT
Excellent example, Kimber. It fits the profile of "playing a game" in the TA-Transactional Analysis sense.

If you stop "playing," so do they. Sometimes they leave, sometimes they change in how they interact with you.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 9:50am EDT
MJ, we all know that, we're just trying to ask you to cut us a little slack. :)
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 9:50am EDT
Why thank you Donald.
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Ann C. Jul 9, 2008, 10:16am EDT
We all have biases. The challenge is in recognizing them in ourselves and being honest about it. If our introspection reveals that we are unhappy with our biases, we are, of course, free to change them. This takes energy - but no where near as much as attempting to change everyone else.

My favorite university professor began her first class by telling us what her biases were. She taught history and felt it was important to state her inclinations, as-it-were, so that we may better understand her perspective and approach to the subject matter. I greatly respected her for this.
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Donald Hawley Jul 9, 2008, 10:41am EDT
Nice, John... but the drawing of me with the sword should be a bit larger, especially in the head.
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Lin G. Jul 9, 2008, 11:02am EDT
Good way of saying take a good look in the mirror or people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I liked it!
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 11:17am EDT
Excellent comment, Ann. I agree.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 11:17am EDT
I didn't want to embarrass you, Donald.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 11:18am EDT
Or, Lin, people shouldn't live in glass houses. :)
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Denise E. Jul 9, 2008, 11:22am EDT
Good one
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Steph-in-NE ..... Jul 9, 2008, 12:54pm EDT
maybe I stupid yet you got me here,, not understanding it yet you still earn a ten on it
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Kay M. Jul 9, 2008, 1:06pm EDT
Good one! The older I get the less energy I have to waste.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:16pm EDT
Thanks, Denise.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:17pm EDT
Most definitely, Selene.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:17pm EDT
Isn't it interesting, Dan, how most opinions come forced?
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:18pm EDT
It is a rhetorical question, Steph.

And most Bytes need digestion time to get the full connection.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:19pm EDT
Kate, that's for damn sure.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 1:20pm EDT
It occurs to me we might want send this to Washington — anonymously, of course.
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Gabe J. Jul 9, 2008, 1:22pm EDT
you can't change bias. you will ALWAYS have a bias because every thought you have is formed based on knowledge you already have in your head. every thought is personally designed by you mind, and thus will always have your bias.

so even if you expend "energy" to try to get rid of bias, you can't. you can reduce it perhaps but it is more likely that you just end up obtaining a new bias.
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Jul 9, 2008, 2:00pm EDT
I grew up in the Bible Belt and co-existed with people who belong to the KKK, John Birch Society, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition, would-be union organizers, racially-biased people of all colors and more. I learned at a very early age to listen and keep my own thoughts to myself and am probably the greatest sinner in the "sins of omission" category because I preferred to walk away rather than argue with fanatics on ANY topic. I just tried never to fuel a fire or opinion with which I disagreed and to try to ameliorate fanatics to see if they were truly blinded by their bias or just regurgitating the same tripe they heard others say. Many times it was the latter. I found out years later that my best friend in school was from a KKK family. We never discussed race, we never shared ethnic jokes, we never opened that can of worms so we never knew that about each other. By the time I learned this, she was concentrating on her husband and child and had no time for single friends who might lure her husband away - that was her bias I could not overcome, she believed every female wanted her husband. I once went to visit her after her little girl was born and she told me before I left that I should always call and make sure her husband was not there as that was family time and not for outsiders. It was 20 years before I visited her again and that was after her husband had left her for someone she never suspected he was seeing on the side. I can't help but believe her constant attempts to keep him for herself alone drove him away but I don't know - I never saw him again after the new baby visit. Maybe if she had had people over without her fanatical desire to keep him away from all other women, he would not have left and the clencher was that the one he left her for WAS married at the time they got together. Life is funny, is it not?
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 2:02pm EDT
Gabe, you are right in that that is the way our minds work, off stereotypes or we'd be inundated with too much data. Thats why we can process image data quickly while a computer crunches a gazillion pixels and then often gets it wrong.

This does not mean you can't alter certain biases, or drop them, and replace them with others. Look how often the American public shifts its biases, especially when coached by spin doctors.
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Haim Kadman Jul 9, 2008, 2:04pm EDT
How true John, I'll try to change mine from this instant on.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 2:08pm EDT
Donna, a wise way to deal with people who have strongly held opinions. Another way is to make the bias visible. Not to change them (that's their choice) but to clarify why they feel the way they do and you feel the way you do. The same holds true for values. Unless biases and values are visible there is can be no dialogue.

Would be great if we could wear logos of our values and biases sewn onto our clothes.

Hmmm, that gave me an idea for a column ...
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 2:09pm EDT
Haim, we've all been hoping you'd say that. :)
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Jul 9, 2008, 2:17pm EDT
Please do write that column, John, but will you do it humorously or tongue-in-cheek?
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Antoine D. Jul 9, 2008, 4:02pm EDT
Your response to Donna is a major lesson illustrated in The Celestine Prophecy. The bias is defined as a "control drama," what people use get others to do what they want. The author shows how to confront them head on once its recognized, and how people, once confronted, almost immediately change they way they behave. Guess what-we all have a control drama, and it's up to us to recognize it and stop using it so we can have strong, loving relationships that are not based on manipulation. It's part of the child-self we need to put away and be mature adults.

I'm surprised no has made the analogy to the Bush Administration, and how every senior staff member who decided to stop drinking the Koolaid and leave was vilified, essentially for displaying independent thought and no longer following the company bias. Mr. Bush has certainly expended a lot of energy.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 4:15pm EDT
"humorously or tongue-in-cheek?" are one and the same to me, Donna. It definitely won't be serious.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 4:15pm EDT
Totally, agree, Arleen ..
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 4:16pm EDT
Excellent points, Antoine.

Thanks for adding that depth to this discussion.
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Debra B. Jul 9, 2008, 6:05pm EDT
I know two thinkgs for sure:
1) No one wins an argument; and
2) You cannot change anyone but yourself.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:48pm EDT
Thanks, Dawn

Hot flashes are very persuasive.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:48pm EDT
Both of those are true, Debra and very relevant to this Byte.

Thanks.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 7:49pm EDT
And limited, Adele.
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K D. Jul 9, 2008, 8:15pm EDT
This one says quite a bit!
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 8:28pm EDT
It does, K D. There's quite a bit beneath the surface, and the comments here add even more dimensions.
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Kimberly Ripley Jul 9, 2008, 8:46pm EDT
Way more than it's worth! Biases can be exhausting. Definitely not worth the effort.
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John Philipp Jul 9, 2008, 10:37pm EDT
I totally agree, Kim.
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David W. Jul 9, 2008, 11:45pm EDT
A reat thought, but if you looked at it from my point of view... :-)
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suey v. Jul 9, 2008, 11:53pm EDT
I like to think I don't have any biases......Huh!
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Sheila Deeth Jul 10, 2008, 12:48am EDT
Neat byte. Neat thoughts in the comments.
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Jerri H. Jul 10, 2008, 12:52am EDT
*giggle*
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arun tp Jul 10, 2008, 3:31am EDT
excellent.

for metaphysics
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Mike Ellwood Jul 10, 2008, 5:41am EDT
To answer the question: I think it would take more energy to change your biases. Seeing the world as you always have done is the lazy option. The stereotypes remain unquestioned. Nudging oneself out of complacency can be very challenging.
Anyway, I don't need to do that, as all my biases are obviously justified. zzzz zzzz zzzz
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 9:02am EDT
Amazing, David, how much clearer it is from your point of view.

Thanks for the illumination.
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 9:03am EDT
Agreed, Sheila. They are a good set of comments ... but then the Byters are always interesting.
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 9:03am EDT
(Jerri, are you laughing at us?) :)
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 9:04am EDT
Than you, Arun.
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 9:06am EDT
While I know your comment was in partial jest, Mike, it raises an interesting aspect of this topic which is internal inertia and the resistance to change.

Much less the anxiety connected with a change of this sort.
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Vivian A. Jul 10, 2008, 12:00pm EDT
A lot less, but it depends on whether your bias is worth fighting for or not.
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 12:36pm EDT
If a bias is worth fighting for, Vivian, I'd call it a value.
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Vivian A. Jul 10, 2008, 4:44pm EDT
To the other side John, it may appear a bias. All depends on your perspective, doesn't it?
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Beaker (just Beaker) Jul 10, 2008, 5:02pm EDT
Junior is now using "tofu" as a swear word, or "tofu shells" for added emphasis. I don't know what tofu shells would be, but that makes a very good expletive.

Oops, I forgot to answer the question. Ummm...three?
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 5:27pm EDT
It definitely does, Vivian.

And how they view it shouldn't effect how you act on it.
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 5:29pm EDT
Close, Beaker. The correct answer is four.

I love tofu as a swear word. It will replace lima beans, which is getting clichéd.
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Marie J. R. Jul 10, 2008, 5:36pm EDT
I really, really like this,,, thank you,,,
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John Philipp Jul 10, 2008, 5:44pm EDT
You're welcome, Marie.
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Vivian A. Jul 10, 2008, 6:15pm EDT
Bing!

Tofu shells..., hmmm, I like the sound of that one Beaker.
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Lance L. Jul 10, 2008, 9:47pm EDT
Yeah just don't mention that while talking about Leonardo Da Vinci to the Catholic Church.
They didn't admit they where wrong for over 800 years and then bingo the sun is at the center of the solar system.
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John Philipp Jul 11, 2008, 12:20am EDT
Lance, I think they subscribed to "if it's filling the collection baskets, don't fix it."
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Granny Janny H. Jul 11, 2008, 5:08pm EDT