Yep, John , can't say I would love your humor if you kept me chained in your basement and served me wrong eggs and sushi on it.
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But, on the other hand, my dad loved my mother for 51 years of marriage (a feat no other man could possibly had done). I know he couldn't have left her. In fact, though his death certificate says heart failure; I think he just had a way of missing mama and felt he needed to return to her.
All of us need space, space to grow and explore develop styles and opinions of our own. You don't necessarily have to depart from them--go away--but you do need to give them the distance they need in order to become who they are meant to be. If you love someone, you will allow them freedom.
trust is essential to love....if you love them, you trust them to deal without you if necessary...make their own decisions that affect them on a more personal basis than what it may affect me....though I want my loved ones to need me, I also want them to be able to make decisions without me
Once everyone has left their thoughts, I'm hoping you'll expand on what this one means specifically to you.
If you are speaking from a metaphysical/esoteric standpoint, or the from aspect of death and dying, I still have a hard time identifying with this one, because of my belief structure and personal experiences. Speaking from that perspective, I might have to leave a loved one physically, but my true life, as spirit, continues loving that one.........and interacts with them, as well.
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I couldn't leave school and I hated every minute of it. It was like prison. But with regular beatings. Nevertheless, some people claimed to have loved school. It's not about school or prison though.
"I guess if you really love you wont want to leave." That's an intriguing statement, Janet. But it's very early and the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet so I'll ponder that on the plane.
Having just read Debra's comment, now Shirley says, "trust is essential to love....if you love them, you trust them to deal without you if necessary" which is yet another valid and intriguing interpretation of this Byte.
"I still have a hard time identifying with this one, because of my belief structure and personal experiences." Tanya, the trick with Bytes is to continue to ponder them until you find a connection for yourself.
It is not unusual to read a Byte that makes no sense at all and yet, a month later, it's sooo relevant to what's going on in your life.
"I might have to leave a loved one physically, but my true life, as spirit, continues loving that one.." is yet another interesting interpretation of this.
My bias is not to expand on what a Byte means specifically to me because: a) that often changes over time even though I wrote it and b) when I've done that the discussion stops and I see Bytes and the comment thread as something to return to from time to time and ponder all over again.
That said, I hinted at my thinking in my above comment to Jan and, to be even more oblique, I could say you might have to "leave" a piece of your belief structure to connect with this.
This is interesting, but will require a little thought. I will have to agree with Robert. Cristina has a good answer too. If you are made to stay and made to love something, you never will. Like, 'if you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you it's yours. If it doesn't come back, it was never yours to begin with.' On the other hand, some people think they love only what they can not have.
Love doesn't mean you ownership or total control. The true quality of love is unselfishness and has nothing to do with whether one is with that person or not. You love them regardless of who they are or where they are. And, sometimes it means stepping back from the one you love and giving them freedom to be who they are.
I'm reminded of a quote which I believe is true: "...giving someone all your love is never an assurance that they will love you back. Don't expect love in return; just wait for it to grow in their heart; but if it doesn't be content that it grew in yours."
To me, 'You can't love what you can't leave' is a statement that I wholeheartedly agree with.
The way I see it, love exists in action - it is not a passive state. In order for there to be love, there needs to be choice. One must have the opportunity to choose to love someone, despite their differences, despite extenuating circumstances, despite the heated exchange of the day before. The decision to love is one that must be nurtured and renewed often. The element of choice is what gives love depth and what allows it to grow. Having this choice necessarily implies the possibility of choosing to leave; and it is precisely that possibility that makes love precious and real.
Okay, okay, okay............here's yet another perspective: If one cannot leave love for a loved one, one cannot love; for one cannot love when there is no love within them. (You could step this up into unconditional love for all, as well.)
OK, I believe it means, Love, true love, doesn't mean I can't live without you, it means I may not want to, but if I need, or you need, I can, which I guess might be letting go maybe? desire, versus need, meaning it ain't love if you can't leave it, taking faith in appreciating it's right to freedom, or your own.
On another possibility, loving California, you must LOVE it to leave it John! Maybe?
I hate to admit it -- that's right, you said to "be nice", so I'll begin all over.
Someone told me not long ago that if you love someone you let them go. Heh, heh, heh. Oh Brother. Okay. Done. I do love him.
Your byte is on target with it. If I didn't love him I know exactly how to manipulate the Hell out of the situation to get what I want, but I would never do it; I love him too much.
The thing I get from this is, like the old saying, "If you love something set it free. And, if it comes back to you, it was yours all along. And, if it doesn't, it wasn't yours to begin with." Very thought provoking this week. Many different interpretations on this one.
Very tricky, John. It takes a little thought but it's true. How else could we allow our children to grow up and leave the nest? Love is more than just how we feel. It's caring about someone so much that their pleasure comes first before your own. This is one of my favorites.
As you can see, I've arrived in Mass. This wireless is pretty quirky. SOmetimes OK and sometimes really slooooow.
I have read all your great comments and written answers. If it stays slow, I'll try again in the morning or Thuirsday evening, but I will answer them all.
If you are obsessed with a person or idea, etc. you can not leave that person or idea, etc., either physically or otherwise. That is not love. If a person is so controlling that you can not leave physically or otherwise you can not love.
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Yep, John , can't say I would love your humor if you kept me chained in your basement and served me wrong eggs and sushi on it.
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But, on the other hand, my dad loved my mother for 51 years of marriage (a feat no other man could possibly had done). I know he couldn't have left her. In fact, though his death certificate says heart failure; I think he just had a way of missing mama and felt he needed to return to her.
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Gues I am wishy-washy on this one.
Actually, I don't consider Thought~Bytes as humor but as very serious.
Phil saw the humor in most everything.
If you are speaking from a metaphysical/esoteric standpoint, or the from aspect of death and dying, I still have a hard time identifying with this one, because of my belief structure and personal experiences. Speaking from that perspective, I might have to leave a loved one physically, but my true life, as spirit, continues loving that one.........and interacts with them, as well.
Still pondering............
Nevertheless, some people claimed to have loved school.
It's not about school or prison though.
I was thinking something else when I wrote this yet what you say also fits well.
That's what I love about Byte comments. The richness of interpretation from this group.
But there's more.
OK, put your brain back in at 300 degrees for, say, 15 minutes. :)
Very true, Glome. Also on what is meant by "leave."
See my above comment to Jan about brain in the oven.
Tanya, the trick with Bytes is to continue to ponder them until you find a connection for yourself.
It is not unusual to read a Byte that makes no sense at all and yet, a month later, it's sooo relevant to what's going on in your life.
"I might have to leave a loved one physically, but my true life, as spirit, continues loving that one.." is yet another interesting interpretation of this.
My bias is not to expand on what a Byte means specifically to me because:
a) that often changes over time even though I wrote it and
b) when I've done that the discussion stops and I see Bytes and the comment thread as something to return to from time to time and ponder all over again.
That said, I hinted at my thinking in my above comment to Jan and, to be even more oblique, I could say you might have to "leave" a piece of your belief structure to connect with this.
Might be, Mike. Depending upon how you want to define what a prison is.
Also — "love" is a specific example of a more general concept.
Have a great day all.
If you are made to stay and made to love something, you never will. Like, 'if you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you it's yours. If it doesn't come back, it was never yours to begin with.'
On the other hand, some people think they love only what they can not have.
Happy and safe travels! The New England temps broke last night and it's positively gorgeous here!
If you love something, set it free.
If it was meant to be it will come back to you.
On the above logically I would have to ask:
If you don't want to leave and if you do not leave; does that mean you don't love? Or in other words, if you stay does that mean you don't love?
I understand that you need to be apart at times to realize how much you love. I show my wife I love her by leaving every morning to earn a living.
The other point is "I've Loved You" intimates either you don't any longer or you will not be around any longer to love them?
I'm reminded of a quote which I believe is true: "...giving someone all your love is never an assurance that they will love you back. Don't expect love in return; just wait for it to grow in their heart; but if it doesn't be content that it grew in yours."
The way I see it, love exists in action - it is not a passive state. In order for there to be love, there needs to be choice. One must have the opportunity to choose to love someone, despite their differences, despite extenuating circumstances, despite the heated exchange of the day before. The decision to love is one that must be nurtured and renewed often. The element of choice is what gives love depth and what allows it to grow. Having this choice necessarily implies the possibility of choosing to leave; and it is precisely that possibility that makes love precious and real.
If it is always with you, you take it for granted, undervalue it. It is when we are bereft that the true value of something is often realized.
I'm having fun with this one.
My daughter was the art director there, still performs occasionally.
Rest easy
On another possibility, loving California, you must LOVE it to leave it John! Maybe?
Enjoy Boston, go Sox!!
Someone told me not long ago that if you love someone you let them go.
Heh, heh, heh. Oh Brother.
Okay.
Done.
I do love him.
Your byte is on target with it. If I didn't love him I know exactly how to manipulate the Hell out of the situation to get what I want, but I would never do it;
I love him too much.
I understand your byte.
Hey Robert it's ok, you and I probably smoked the same stuff once!!!
Very thought provoking this week. Many different interpretations on this one.
On the other hand, I've become fond of my cage....
I have read all your great comments and written answers. If it stays slow, I'll try again in the morning or Thuirsday evening, but I will answer them all.
You guys are good!
There are lots of good connections people are making to this Byte.
"If you are made to stay and made to love something, you never will." is certainly one aspect of this.
One sometimes has to look beyond oneself.
Thanks.
That's a good saying and can fit here ... it really is a facet of my original thought.
Yes, the weather in Boston is gorgeous right now.
In this case, don't think logically but think of "love" as an analogy and see where that takes you.
No, that's someone else.
Welcome back.
Certainly true, Vivian. Yet another way to slice this cake.
You guys are good!
Thanks.
Loving and leaving California, cute. (Except I love it here as well having chosen to spend much of my life in Cambridge)
Enjoy.