The Obama Administration Can No Longer Avoid Investigating the Bush Administration for War Crimes

Sorry - but they DO, in fact, have options. And I have too much for them and the congress to do FOR us, to allow them to be distracted by doing this TO these asshats. There just isn't TIME.

Steve,
Well done.

I understand Chucks concerns. But "accountability" must mean something, otherwise the system will be just too cynical to be worth anything (if it's not already beyond that tipping point).

The courts in Spain have already started an investigation of human rights abuses of the legal "minds" behind the Bush administration's policies and actions. It's an important beginning.

For Obama, it's not yet been 100 days... He's been left (we have been left) a big mess! The investigations by congress need to be continued and expanded and come to further fruition. Investigating, debating, fighting, deal-making, and ending with a slap on the wrist would be very harmful... it needs to be done right, as Barbra Boxer indicated last year...

[Steve, in other news, quick update: nothing yet... tests turned out good though... back to original plan... likely tomorrow or day after... ]

Chuck: "There just isn't TIME."

Sure there is - the "time" issue is a function of the lazy cable "news" media, which cannot seem to sensationalize more than one train of thought at a time.

David: "...'accountability' must mean something...."

Yep. No one is above the law. It's part of what Chuck refers to as "to do FOR us" - as in restore credibility.

Thanks for the update, David.

Notwithstanding the likelihood of any path forward, it saddens me that there is a national and worldwide need to "restore credibility."

My personal desire is that the current administration focus on what it needs to do to "restore credibility,' get us out of this "big mess," and go about the job of governing this country. The future is becoming the present every day, and there is much work to be done just to fill the hole left behind...but we can't lose sight of the mountain still in our path.

Time isn't the issue here. The issue is whether we have the will to do the right thing. Bush should be exposed for what he did wrong.

this bothers me, not because someone wants to attack a president, but because we were in a bloody unforgiving war with people that didnt play nice. The rules change when you strap bombs to children and women.

I believe in waterboarding. I believe in interrogation. The people that our troops were fighting were brutal monsters who had no honor.

Its easy to point fingers after the fact. The easiest fact to make - we havent had a single attack on America since 9/11. Interrogation gets info to us that we need to protect ourselves. WAR is WAR. it isnt pretty - never was.

~M

This was a top secret, leaked report from the Red Cross that, sadly will ham string their future access so action is imperative. There were medical professionals that carried out the orders and were complicit in horrific measures used, in violation of their oaths, against human beings. They need to be identified and allowed to state their reasons for doing so before their Medical Boards.
Someone has come forward with this rock solid information, ignoring it is not an option.

Michael: "I believe in waterboarding."

Then you are a sympathizer with war criminals - that is, if you're not one yourself.

Michael: "The people that our troops were fighting were brutal monsters who had no honor."

So you propose becoming just like them. That will solve it. Still, it's a crime. Perpetrators are criminals.

Michael: "WAR is WAR. it isnt pretty - never was."

Does the Geneva Convention mean anything to you? No, of course it doesn't.

Ape: "This was a top secret, leaked report from the Red Cross that, sadly will ham string their future access so action is imperative."

Yes. The journalist, to whom this information was leaked, acknowledged that. Yet, he also noted that the source believed this information to be so compelling that the judgement was made to leak it.

Ape: "Someone has come forward with this rock solid information, ignoring it is not an option."

I agree. Please let the WH know of your opinion on this @ the link above. Thanks.

Michael: "I believe in waterboarding."

McCain: Japanese Hanged For Waterboarding

" this bothers me, not because someone wants to attack a president, but because we were in a bloody unforgiving war with people that didnt play nice. The rules change when you strap bombs to children and women."

The rules only change when war criminals are changing them at will.


"I believe in waterboarding. I believe in interrogation. "

I don't have any trouble whatsoever believing that you would be in favor of such unAmerican tactics, that have been proven to not only be utterly useless in terms of acquiring valued information, but which also have been proven to put our own soldiers at great risk. Totally believable that a lowlife POS, dickless little worm such as yourself, who has undoubtedly never wore a military uniform in his pathetic life, would support such behavior.



"The people that our troops were fighting were brutal monsters who had no honor. "

You're an idiot. Why must you keep proving it by continuing to say idiotic things?




"The easiest fact to make - we havent had a single attack on America since 9/11. "

Liar. We were attacked several times with anthrax. Check your facts, little boy.




"Interrogation gets info to us that we need to protect ourselves."

Interrogation can, but torture does not. It has been proven to be utterly ineffective as a means of obtaining useful information.



"WAR is WAR. it isnt pretty - never was."

Oh please. Do share you vast experience on this subject. Can't wait to hear about how heroically you served.

"I believe in waterboarding. I believe in interrogation."
mikey admits what we have known for a very long time,that his kind have no use for the rule of law and are basically cowards that believe any lie a repugnicon may utter.

mikey probably couldn't get in the boy scouts let alone the military.
Those afraid to serve blindly follow