Only Liberals and Blacks care that Obama is Black. This is how divisive Democrats have become; they divide their "victim pools" along racial lines as if it where still the late 1800's, it's not Conservatives who are racist.
News flash for independent Democrats of any color/religion/sexual preference/etc..., we don't care which "Victim Pool" Democrats pigeonholed you into, you are absolutely welcome to participate in any Conservative movement as long as you abandon the "victim/oppressor" paradigm of the Democrats, and accept the reality that the only way to improve America is for ALLAMERICANS TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES. No Government can make you better.
Don't believe the Leftist propagandists who say Conservatives want to remove all safety nets, we know there is need, we just don't want our entire economy to be based on obese self-serving government bureaucracies.
Intellectual Liberals believe Conservatives have a "Collective Guilt" function as they do, but we don't. I never owned a slave, no one I know ever owned a slave, I never "kept a Black man down" or any of that stuff intellectual Liberals seem to want me to feel guilty about.
Obama is in the position he is in because the Race Card still has huge import for Liberals. Polls show the vast majority of Blacks will vote for Obama because he is black. Conservatives could care less about his race.
Here are the top problems for Obama:
1: Ties to Domestic terrorist which he continues to lie about.
2: Ties to Mafia boss and organized crime which he continues to lie about.
3: Ties to a Marxist based theology, and the ridiculous idea that in 20 years he never realized there was a Marxist theme to "Black Liberation Theology".
4: If the above is actually true, what's the guy got, an IQ of 70?
5: Obama runs on a fantasy of good Judgment because he claims he has no track record, reality is he is more appealing if you ignore his track record, but it does exist, and he is better off if you ignore his AWFUL JUDGEMENT too.
6: Liberals ran the most Far Left out-on-the-fringe guy they could find. Their requirements where, more Charisma than a potato, and willing to carry water for the Ultra Left Socialists. They did so, thinking this election cycle amounted to an automatic win for Democrats, and thinking people on both sides are too stupid to become informed and vote against historical trends. Obama's Socalist party supporters even articulated their low opinion of American voters.
7: Conservatives have no problem voting against a black man's politics, we lack the necessary "collective guilt". Self depredating political correctness is a Liberal invention; Conservatives have as little use for it as they do for a Socialist President.
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Thanks C J
Only Liberals could blame America for the awful actions of so many rogue nations who hate the west. Liberals blame America for 9/11. They had no similar delusions about Pearl Harbor.
Liberals had the same opinion of the world on Dec 6th, 1941. Thankfully the next day they did the right thing, I don't believe they would today.
Bill O was very fair with Hillary, do you suppose the Sycophants at MSNBC would treat McCain similarly? Now be honest with yourself.
I try to stay informed from many sources.
If more conservative politicians acted on their words, they would get more indies/3d party folks to support them. Conservatives/Repubs have a lot to make up for and McCain sure isn't the candidate. The only thing keeping a mass defection this election is that the Dems are worse.
You are truly a brave man to post your thoughts about conservatism in its most basic form. You are inviting being slammed by the Libs who stalk around Gather just waiting to pounce. Don't worry about it! Their brains are on overdrive since they have been trying to mimic the "quick response mode" of the Democratic campaign advisors.
I don't agree with all of your points but I do think that the big difference between the two parties and their platforms can be summed up as follows;
1) Dems = wealth distribution, increased governmental involvement in order to effect positive change in the lives of people, and higher taxes needed to commit the country to long term entitlement programs (e.g., Medicare)
2) Repubs = improved economy through capitalism and investment; less governmental involvement and letting people keep more of their own money; low taxes; and a greater emphasis on, as you say, pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps
Having said that those are the broad differences between the two Party choices, it's really hard to identify where these two guys substaintially differ on the war and on energy policy and on job creation
It really looks to me like both of these guys are trying to move to the "center" and that's where things get a little fuzzy.
That said, I'll respond to your own comment (which I think is well presented, though I am somewhat in disagreement). I would offer a slightly different perspective. While I won't argue the veracity of each point you make, my thinking is that you're missing the important elements (i.e., not seeing the forest for the trees).
Democrats: Focus on inclusion and bottom up dynamics. All people are important and the government should play a role in making conditions amenable to everyone having a chance at pursuing success. [Big problem: Overreliance on social welfare programs that benefit the individual without enough emphasis on cost reduction and assisting people to "make it on their own."]
Republicans: Focus on hierarchy and top down dynamics. Capitalism is the most important and the government should focus on providing incentives for businesses to expand the economy, and as a consequence, job opportunities for the people. [Big problem: Overreliance on corporate welfare that benefits large companies and their CEOs/Boards while ignoring the shifting of jobs overseas, which effectively short-circuits the whole "trickle down" premise.]
Both party platforms have their good points and their bad points. The reality is that we need to be both fiscally and socially responsible. Frankly, the current administration has shown it could do neither.
Hillary played the gender card by being a woman. And Mr. Magoo plays the POW card by using POW in every sentence. I'm surprised he didn't pick a fellow POW for VP and then they could be known as POW-POW.
Between them, how many houses does McCain and Romney own?
I'm proud that the Democratic party is progressive enough to look past gender and race for the most qualified candidate. For the sake of this country that has been run into a ditch, we simply must start thinking best person for the job let the bigots be damned. Perhaps if your party did the same, you'd have a more exciting and viable ticket. Wonder what century that will take place in.
I really do believe that Liberals FEEL and Conservatives THINK, I don’t see a problem with that. It is no different than the fact that men are almost always S-thinkers and women are E-thinkers.
Julie gets the "heart of compassion" piece, but the rest is plain old party line rhetoric.
Conservatives know how to build from bedrock. Great societies aren't built by Liberals, they are built by everyone, Liberals just take all the credit for it, while constantly complaining about the flaws and expecting system thinkers to fix them.
Liberals sit around the campfire in the jungle complaining about their hunger while conservatives hunt.
Looks like us Stone Age thinkers are going to shatter that "which century" rhetoric too.
Funny how MSNBC the lefto-press is trying to make a woman controversial, while we conservatives think it is a natural choice based on her politics.
Who are the Stone Age thinkers exactly?
Julia, only a liberal would need a poll to know that.
That reminds me of the recent revelation from Geologists in Utah.
Last month, when a natural arch collapsed in Arches National Park, Geologists went out on a limb and predicted that GRAVITY may have played a part.
Either way, I appreciate your input; I appreciate all points of view and don't find any intelligent argument taboo.
Julia, I am passionate about politics, but am married to a woman who shares your values more than mine. She is a smart, kind and amazing woman even though she is usually wrong. Hehehe
I am coming very late to this discussion so I am just trying to catch up. I don't necessarily agree with the "medium / manner" in which Mr. Fogg put his message out there. I was merely complimenting him for getting the message about the differences between the two parties in terms of their foundations / philosophy. It's a brave man who tries to get us to think about defining the conservative / liberal dichotomy. I still think both Candidates are moving to the "middle / center."
Obama is the nomonee because he promisses a far left change, a completely partisan attack on the way this country works.
If you are for that sort of debasing of the foundation of America, Obama is your man.
If you believe that America is still great, and that Washington is the problem, bi-partisan reform is the ticket. Obama votes with Pelosi/Reed 97% of the time.
McCain votes with Bush/Cheney 90% of the time.
When you factor out the unanimous votes, McCain follows party lines about 50%, whila Obama does so about 85% of the time.