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by CyberGwen !
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Spouse Hunting 101- Chat Transcript 2/26/08

February 25, 2008 07:08 PM EST (Updated: February 26, 2008 06:54 PM EST)
views: 163 | rating: 10/10 (30 votes) | comments: 128
Please join me right here for a discussion on Man/Women Hunting  tomorrow.  Even if you are married, we could really use your insight and thoughts!

We will be talking about things like:
*What do you want in a partner?  Has this changed over time?
*Do you believe in the idea of a "soul mate"?  or Prince/Princess Charming?
*Are you already involved?  Where/how did you meet?
*Still single?  What avenues have you tried?
*Reality shows…..What do you think?  Would you try one?  Do you believe that one could    find lasting love with them?
*Online dating sites……any experience?
*Do you still have hope?  Have you given up?  Have you changed your standards?
*What would you be willing to do to?  How much would you willing to change about yourself?  Do you think that changing something , like maybe your hair color, to fit what someone likes is playing fair? 
*What sage advice do you have or have you heard?  Do you believe it?
*If you are divorced….what have you learned?  Has what you were looking for then, changed because of it?
*Do you have "rules"?  (ie. Must never have been married, Must be taller than I am, be the same religion, not have young children, divorce must be final, etc.)

To participate: all you need to do it type your question or comment in the box below.  To see other's comments/answers in real time just hit the refresh button on your browser.  You will need to continuosly refresh the page to see each new comment.
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Comments: 128

Danielle P. Feb 25, 2008, 7:08pm EST
It sounds interesting. I will try to make it.
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Lisa J Feb 25, 2008, 7:10pm EST
I DOUBT I will make it (sorry). I will tell you that I've had best luck when I'm not looking, and wouldn't be with K if I hadn't had an open mind. Honest - he was supposed to be a "practice" date, because I hadn't been on a "real" (unmarried and looking) date in over 15 years...
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CyberGwen ! Feb 25, 2008, 7:10pm EST
Thanks Danielle!

Please do try to come. I know that you are getting married soon, so I am sure that you have a lot of insight!
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Sophie S. Feb 25, 2008, 7:12pm EST
oooo, sounds fun
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Amanda J. Feb 25, 2008, 7:14pm EST
I'll still be at work then.
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Bridget ♥ Feb 25, 2008, 7:16pm EST
I'll TRY my hardest to make it!

Please join me with your questions!

CHAT LIVE with Betsy Brown Braun, Author of "Just Tell Me What to Say", February 26th @ 4PM ET (1PM PT)

Hope to see you there!
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Trish A. Feb 25, 2008, 7:30pm EST
What a hoot! It 's a fun idea. I'll try to remember to stop by.

I'm not sure I'll be much help though. I always told guys on our first date that, "I'm not getting married or having children!"

Funny, Shan was the only one who didn't believe me and now I'm going to be a grandma!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 25, 2008, 7:31pm EST
Sophie, I hope that it will be!

Amanda, I am sorry that you won't make it. It is funny that most of the chats are scheduled during the day. Maybe we need to rethink that...

Bridget, I will get to yours too. I may need a breather for a bit, but I will be there:)
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CyberGwen ! Feb 25, 2008, 7:32pm EST
Lisa, I think the same thing. That you find it when you aren't looking. I know that it worked for me. It was the LAST thing that I wanted at the time!

Trish,
That is so interesting! Wow, he must be really special!
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j - Frugal Mom - r. Feb 25, 2008, 7:37pm EST
quite interesting
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Amanda "middle of nowhere" C. Feb 25, 2008, 8:28pm EST
I will not be able to attend as I will be at work. I do have a question, Gwen. What does the author think about outside influences...like when I set friends up on a blind date? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Am I interferring in my friends' lives too much? I mean, I don't force them to go...
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Paul Kurrey Feb 25, 2008, 9:07pm EST
Am I the only guy to comment??? Geezz sounds like I'de be standing alone....hmm I am standing alone guess like I should try to make it....
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Doug M. Feb 26, 2008, 10:54am EST
Hi Gwen,

I am single and older than dirt, but still very interested in the possibility of romance. I've had the good fortune of knowing real love in my life and would like to have that again.

As one ages it becomes more difficult to find a partner for a variety of reasons, but being older definitely has an upside. If a person has worked at being self-aware he or she is in a better position to know his own needs. An older person often has more patience and empathy... at least that has been my experience.

I will try to make the discussion. It will be interesting.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 11:49am EST
j r, I hope you come and tell us your secrets:)
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 11:52am EST
Paul, you were the first, but PLEASE come. We need a man's viewpoint!

Doug, how old is dirt really? You can use it again and again, it never really goes out of style! I am glad that you found love once and you are never too old to find it again!

I think that you are right, the older you get the more you know what you want and you also know what is really important in life. What was important at 20 or 30 is seldom the same at 60 and 70.

I will look forward to hear from you!
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Jennifer F. Feb 26, 2008, 12:03pm EST
I can't wait to read all the comments on this one - could there be a more interesting topic than love?
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Curt L. Feb 26, 2008, 12:07pm EST
Thank you! Sending a 10 your way!
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Jodi G. Feb 26, 2008, 12:55pm EST
I'll try and make it.
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Jennine D. Feb 26, 2008, 1:02pm EST
Hmmm Okay I am Pacific Standard time so what time is that for me I am not mathmatical hurting my brain to figure out. I am married 38 years but might have some tips or advice.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 1:16pm EST
Jen, that is noon for us on the west coast! Please come!
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golds g. Feb 26, 2008, 2:00pm EST
I cvant make it I'll be in class but I am looking and I'll tell you this he has to be the same religon
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 2:09pm EST
That is understandable. I know that while my BF and I don't practice, it does help that we were brought up with the same religion. We usually understand where each other is coming from on big issues.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Feb 26, 2008, 2:14pm EST
Gwen,
Stopping in to show you some love, but the Spouse 101 thing is NOT FOR ME
Ooooh No,
Unless Denzel shall be there. . .shall he?

However, you all have a ball!

((((hugs)))) to YOU!
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nancy h. Feb 26, 2008, 2:31pm EST
Sorry I can't make it - but for what it's worth, my husband thinks I already did find the perfect man. Guess who?
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 2:42pm EST
I sent a invitation to Denzel's people, but they never got back to me. Sorry!

They are all so perfect aren't they, Nancy?
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 2:58pm EST
I will start it off.....

To be honest, I had no idea what I wanted other than I had to be attracted to him. I would date people for a bit and find a lot of what I didn't want!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 2:59pm EST
I found mine at the grocery store.....don't laugh...we worked there! I was not looking at all, so maybe that is the tip that works. My grandmother always said that you find love when you aren't looking for it.
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:03pm EST
I found mine at a Bible study. I think your grandmother was right Gwen!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:03pm EST
Reality shows.....I think that the only thing that is missing from these is just that, REALITY.

I am not saying that you can't find love, but would it last? You are in a hyper stressed dream world, competing with others...how much can you really know about a person other than how they handle high stress situations?? (Not that that isn't a good thing)
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:04pm EST
Nancy- my husband think I found the perfect man too!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:04pm EST
Kathy, that would be a great place, because you already know that you have things in common!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:06pm EST
Did you all find things that you weren't looking for that you realized that you did want??


Like Trish, that was dead set against kids and marriage? She is going to be a grandma now you know!
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:06pm EST
Gwen- that's why the majority of the couples on reality shows never make it. It is based on attraction and fun- not who you share goals and priorities with and have similar ideas on on where and how to live.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:07pm EST
I know there are some gatherers that met their spouses online. I did that once....wasn't a bad experience, just not a great one.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:08pm EST
Exactly, Kathy!

I think that when the lights go down and the man is in timbuktu and she is in the Ozarks, it becomes a little different!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:09pm EST
Where do you think is a great place to meet the opposite sex?

We already have Bible Study and the grocery store....
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Liz Gellar Feb 26, 2008, 3:10pm EST
Gwen, I remember a reality show that came out many years ago on FOX. I think that it was called "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire". At the time, it was really controversial that the show was made. But now, you see these types of shows on T.V. all of the time. Why do you think society now accepts finding a future soul mate on TV? Or is it purely for entertainment?
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:11pm EST
I think that we are still caught up with meeting our "soul mate" and these shows just keep that message alive. Younger girls see that as a possible, but the reality is that no one is perfect and relationships take a lot of work.

They possibly do more harm than good to the younger generation and are just plain entertainment to the rest of us.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:12pm EST
It is fun to watch and guess how we would react to the situations that they put people in, but I really don't see most of us taking it seriously.
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J W. Feb 26, 2008, 3:12pm EST
will try to come
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:14pm EST
Tom Hunter had a good point on the other article. Women need to realize that the men are out there looking just as hard for us!
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Liz Gellar Feb 26, 2008, 3:16pm EST
Gwen,

You mentioned you met your mate at a grocery store. I think a lot of people would love to meet their live interest this way!

A question for everyone...what initially attracts you to another person in a first meeting. Is it how he or she looks, how he or she treats other people, how he or she dresses, etc?
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:16pm EST
Nanina Hawk said, "My grandmother always said there is no perfect partner. You have to find one who's faults you can live with."

That is so true.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:18pm EST
For me, it is always the eyes. When they say that the eyes are the windows to your soul, they weren't kidding. I like to think that I can tell a lot about someone's character through their eyes.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:19pm EST
What about a divorce? Does that make you less likely to try again?
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Christine Mailey Feb 26, 2008, 3:21pm EST
Any tips for a single gal who's still looking for Mr. Right? Although to be honest, I'm not found of that expression. I just want the guy who complements me and fits in my life. :-)
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:23pm EST
Sorry- I was checking my email

I was 30 and my husband was 33 when we met- so we were mature enough to know what we were looking for in a spouse- not just someone to date
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:23pm EST
Dating is hard no matter what avenue you take. I know people who have had great success with online dating and others who have had disastrous experiences. It's very similar to interviewing for a job. You just have to keep at it until there is a mutual fit. Yikes!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:24pm EST
I would say be open to new ideas. If you always are choosing the same bad apples..maybe it is time to try oranges!

Think outside the box. Does what you are looking for make sense?? For example, I didn't want to have kids, mine or someone else's. Did it make sense to be looking at other 30 somethings that also fit this? Not really.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:25pm EST
Kathy, I agree with the age thing. In our early 20's very few of us know who were even are yet, how can we expect to find the perfect man?
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:25pm EST
I am attracted to an outgoing personality- because it is so opposite to my natural tendencies. However, I also discovered that I can get irritated with that personality type as well. My husband is more outgoing than I am but not to the extent that he goes overboard.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:26pm EST
I have heard the same thing with online dating. I don't know if I have the confidence to put myself out there like that.
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:26pm EST
ok- I need to go get a snack. I seem to be hungry a lot on this diet- but at least I can find something to eat!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:27pm EST
Complementing our own strengths and weaknesses is a key too Kathy.
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:29pm EST
If I had based all my relationships on first impressions, they would have ended right then and there. But we were friends first and they all grew on me.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:30pm EST
Is the idea of Soul Mates outdated??

Is there really one perfect person out there for us?

What happens if for one reason or another, we lose this person?

I think that there has to be more than one, probably many.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:32pm EST
I am with you there Jennifer. Mine wasn't my type at all physically, so if we had just left it there.....I wouldn't be here with him today. Not rushing things makes a lot of difference.

I think that it is really important to be friends first.
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:35pm EST
I don't think there is only "one" person out there for each of us. I think there are many who are right for us at certain times in our lives. Unfortunately my timing has been off. *sigh*
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Christine Mailey Feb 26, 2008, 3:35pm EST
haha, I hear you Jennifer!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:37pm EST
Christine, back to you...

What are your hobbies or interests? That can be a great way to meet people. Even if those people aren't single, we all have friends that are!

I live in an area that is really big into ecology and nature. There are a lot of hiking, climbing, walking, etc. groups here.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:38pm EST
Timing is everything! If I had met my BF 10 years ago....we wouldn't be here right now. On the other hand, our timing was a little off even now....he was newly separated.
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:38pm EST
The best advice my mom ever gave me about relationships (and this covers friends and family as well) is 1) Nobody is a mind reader and 2) The only person you can control is yourself.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:39pm EST
Timing also means that you are ready to settle down, know what your goals are, etc. You have to be ready for Mr. Right as well!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:40pm EST
I like that advice Jennifer! I should post that on my mirror and make it my mantra! Nobody is a mind reader. Nobody is a mind reader. Nobody is a mind reader.
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Christine Mailey Feb 26, 2008, 3:41pm EST
That's really great advice Jennifer!

Hobbies? Hmm...I just try to surround myself with friends. I have hobbies but nothing that will help me meet someone I think. I love working out!
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:42pm EST
My soup and I are back- let me go back and catch up.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:42pm EST
Control was always a big problem with me too. I wanted to go at my pace.....not someone else's. Because of his divorce, I have had to learn this and relearn this almost daily!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:42pm EST
Welcome back Kathy!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:43pm EST
Okay Christine, so you love working out. Do you jog?? Are there any jogging groups that you can join??
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:44pm EST
I would not have dated my husband if I went on first impressions! I kind of avoided him for a little while because I was afraid he was going to ask me out. But then I decided to "give the guy a chance." Sure glad I did!
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:45pm EST
The New York Times had an article last year that said the worst place for women to meet men was by signing up for a class (cooking, diy etc.) because a majority of the attendees are women. Makes sense.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:45pm EST
There is always going against the grain too.

After months of wondering whether or not he was interested...I had enough. I asked him out!
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:46pm EST
Gwen- haha- that approach works too!
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:47pm EST
I think the best way to meet someone is hands down through friends because then they already have some sort of stamp of approval.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:47pm EST
Good thing too, because he said that he never would have made the move,

I had heard that about classes too. That is why I would tend to look for something sporty or cause related. Volunteering to do the beach clean ups around here would be something that I would think about.
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:48pm EST
Jennifer- that is a good idea. I have a great guy I know- but no girls to fix him up with.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:49pm EST
That is a big plus, Jennifer. If you like and trust your friends and they like him.....it is all up to seeing if there is chemistry.


My only problem with that is if you are new in town...then you have to start at square one.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:51pm EST
One caveat....have your parents ever tried to set you up with someone??? Ack! What were they thinking?!?!?
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Jennifer Hodge Feb 26, 2008, 3:54pm EST
As to the parents picking a possible boyfriend, they have kept to themselves on that front thank goodness. Although it would be interesting to see who they would choose. I think my mom would pick someone pretty cool. Not so sure about my dad.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:55pm EST
Okay gang, it looks like except for reality shows, there is really no bad way to meet your mate. It is just a matter of timing, knowing what you want and don't want, getting yourself out there, being open to trying new things and having the hope!

This has been a great chat! Thanks for all of your participation!
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:55pm EST
No- don't think I'd like that! But my sister tried to fix me up once or twice. After the first one my brother-in-law told her she couldn't.
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Liz Gellar Feb 26, 2008, 3:55pm EST
Gwen, thankfully no! My mom has never set me up with someone. She has no concept of my type. :-) But I agree with Jennifer. Finding someone through a friend can be a great way to go!
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Liz Gellar Feb 26, 2008, 3:56pm EST
Gwen, thanks for being a gracious host. I hope people stop by later to share some of their own dating tips and experiences!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:56pm EST
My mom was horrible. There was one that she thought was great....CPA...all GQ and everything. Perfect, except for the fact that he got drunk as a skunk and I took a cab home!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:57pm EST
LOL, Kathy!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:58pm EST
Thank you all! This was a new experience for me and I think for Gather!
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Kathy and her Buckethead H. Feb 26, 2008, 3:58pm EST
Gwen- that sounds like one BAD date!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:58pm EST
It was horrible! I hope that he got home okay though!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 3:59pm EST
Have a great afternoon and evening, ya'll!
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Liz Gellar Feb 26, 2008, 3:59pm EST
Gwen, sounds like a bad date! I suppose it makes for a good story though. ;) There are always guys out there who are no good, but some how manage to pull the wool over Mom's eyes.
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Jennine D. Feb 26, 2008, 4:02pm EST
HI hope this is the right place. Sort of late, grandkids not cooperating LOL.

Well I have been married to my one and only dear husband for almost 38 years. I have seen people get married to soon and for the wrong reasons and not work out and I have seen many work great. My advice is this
1. NO ONE EVER FALLS in LOVE you grow in love you learn to have a lot of tolernance and NEVER try to change someone that is not going to ever work.
2. Accept changes. Accept things change for both of you. Your values, your views, you r looks, your body changes. If you cannot or do not accept change your doomed
3. Keep the romance alive, play, laugh, take time to have fun it is not about money you can cook a nice dinner and have candle light, play board games, take a walk, put on some music and dance take a shower or bath togather, read togather.
4. Listen with your mind, heart, body and soul, be attuned to their moods, and face and body expressions. Don't nag but be understanding
5. Have compassion, Never fail to communicate but know the right time to communicate for different things.
6. It is not about marrying a stranger, Anyone who does not marry thier best friend (not girl friend for girl or boy friend for boy unless your so inclined that way) But your best opposite gender friend. Your marrying the wrong person. Anyone who says they cannot marry a friend is looking in the wrong place and for the wrong thing.
7. Its not about the money, its about love, giving, sharing. Remember vows, IN SICKNESS and IN HEALTH, for RICHER OR for POORER, For BETTER or for WORSE. Times, circumstances, life changes things many unexpected, unwelcome, unwanted you work at keeping things togather.
8. Don't clam up, don't give favors, don't hold grudges. These never solve anything
9. Set them free, never think you ever OWN someone, let them be free to grow, explore and develop and have outside relationships with both genders not sexual but just friendships. If they are yours they will stay or come back to you if not they were never yours in the first place.

Meeting someone has to do with interest, what do you like to do, find someone who shares your interests. Same kinds of foods, resturants, sports events, church or other event or interests. Library is a place to meet too or church.

Let family and friends know your looking they might know of a great guy and when you meet someone look beyond the exterior package. So they are bald, too pudgy or to tall or whatever what about personality, interests. Many goldmines are shunned when someone cannot get past the outer apperance. Which is really too bad for everyone. In order to find the treasure you sometimes have to dig down into the dirt that is where you find gold and diamonds and rubies and gems of wonderful things.

Always remember too there are many interesting fun better looking, richer people out there but are they going to really be the best for you. The grass is not greener it only looks like that until you cross the fence and sometimes realize the pasture at home was mighty fine and often to late.

People do NOT always feel in love or love their mate, Sometimes they get upset, mad, angry, Given communication, time and more these feelings abate they pass. Too many times divorce occurs for the wrong reasons. Oh yes there are good valid reasons for such abuse being # 1 priority and adultry second. But most are over silly petty things that in counseling or time would resolve themselves and get a couple back on track. Sex is the least reason someone should be togather this is a fringe benefit and cumulation of everything else. But there are times Sex just is not something you are able to do health, time, stress, age all take their toll but love true love lasts and it is about companionship, friendship and more and sex just adds to and enhances the relationship when you are able to get togather in this realm.
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 4:02pm EST
That they do! As long as they don't pull it over ours...we are okay!
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Bridget ♥ Feb 26, 2008, 4:03pm EST
I'm sorry I missed this --- I just got home a few minutes ago!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 4:03pm EST
Wow, Jen! I am going to print this out! Thanks so much!
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CyberGwen ! Feb 26, 2008, 4:05pm EST
Bridget, we had some fun and shared a few tips:)
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Linda K. Feb 26, 2008, 4:27pm EST
I think there is a lot of luck involved in a good marriage. I truly fell in love at first sight. Many years later, when I look across a crowded room at a party, I still look at my husband and delight in the fact that I will be going home with HIM. I think finding a person you respect, love, feel tremendous chemistry AND CAN ACTUALLY LIVE WITH is something of a miracle. The outrageously lucky part, for my husband and I, is our compatibility piece; we just happen to agree on a whole lot of important things. Neither one of us can take credit for that; it just happened to be that way.
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Meredith G. Feb 26, 2008, 4:34pm EST
Soulmates do exist, as I have found. It does take effort and does not happen at a glance, nor seamlessly... but it does happen. You can make it be so, as long as you remember this: when you marry, you are no longer two single people, but one. So strive to be one. If you wish to remain single in mind then don't get married.
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