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by Austin Cushing
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February 1, 2007

Common Cents: I Want To Complain!

August 05, 2008 06:50 PM EDT (Updated: August 19, 2008 06:45 PM EDT)
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Austin Cushing, Money CorrespondentHello, and welcome to Common Cents, where we discuss topics relevant to those living below the poverty line and other topics that are of importance to those living paycheck to paycheck!

This week, with the help of the Consumer Action Website, we're discussing something that occurs to practically every consumer, whether living below the poverty level or staying in $1,000-a-night hotels - when things go wrong with what they paid for, almost anyone will say, "I Want To Complain!"

Your Internet service is as high-speed as a wounded opossum. Your new board game has half its cards misprinted. You just discovered a dead insect in your ramen noodles. You just bought a used game and discovered that one of the disks is missing. So what do you do about it? You complain, of course. But who do you complain to, and how do you complain in a way that leads to a successful resolution to your problems?

Who To Contact

The most direct approach, of course, is to contact the person or store who sold you the goods in question; generally, this means returning to the store and asking to speak with a salesperson or customer service representative about the source of your problem. In many cases, stores have limits on how long you can wait to return or get a refund on a defective item, and these policies may vary depending on the type of item (for example, computer games tend to have a much more stringent return policy than DVD players), so do this as soon as you notice a problem with your purchase.

If this doesn't work - either because your item is no longer covered under store policies or because the representative is unable or unwilling to assist you - ask to speak to a supervisor or manager. In many cases, these management individuals are predisposed to providing reasonable accommodations to customers, so it's always worth a try. You can usually receive an exchange or store credit even if your item is no longer eligible for a refund.

If you aren't successful in getting your local retailer to assist you, or aren't satisfied with their response, the next step up is to take your complaint to the national headquarters of the seller or of the item's manufacturer. Many industries have a customer relations department, consumer affairs division, or customer retention department whose job is to solve customer problems and retain them as customers.

To find this headquarters, though, you're going to have to do some detective work. First, check the package for the address or toll-free number of the manufacturer - many companies provide a direct line to contact their consumer support department on their products. If you are dealing with a retailer, ask them for the contact information of their national customer service department directly.

If neither of these proves helpful, check out the website of the retailer or manufacturer. They should have a 'Contact' or 'Support' link that you can use to express your complaints.

Still looking? The Consumer Action Website has an extensive directory of corporate contacts available here that you can use to try to track down a specific manufacturer or corporate entity.

If you're still having trouble, you can also try making a call to 1-800-555-1212 - this is the directory of toll-free numbers, and your corporation of choice might be listed among them.

Still stuck? You can always try your local library, search engines, and your friends to help you track down the most troublesome corporate offices. Look up information on a product to determine the name of its manufacturer or parent corporation - for instance, ActivOn and HeadOn are manufactured by Miralus Inc. Your local library may have reference texts that can help you track down certain corporations. Having more people willing to help will cut down the workload drastically, if your friends don't mind helping you look.

How To Complain

This sounds like an easy task - just complain until the other party does something - but it's really not that simple. Whether you're dealing with a salesperson face-to-face or a consumer relations specialist five thousand miles away, there are some important tips to remember.

-- Calmly explain your problem. Include the name of the product, any serial or model numbers involved, the name and location of the place where you purchased the product, when you made the purchase, what problems you are having with the product, and what you would like them to do to rectify it.

-- Bring or include copies of any documentation that would be relevant (receipts, warranties, etc.) If at all possible, keep the originals - this will prevent accidental (or intentional) losses on behalf of you or the company you are complaining to and allow you to provide future copies to anyone who requires them.

-- While you might be angry with the company, the individual who is listening to or reading your complaint is probably not responsible for the problem, but can probably help you resolve it. That said, being rude, sarcastic, or threatening to the person who is supposed to help you is unlikely to help, and may result in your complaint being ignored or discarded.

-- If your problem cannot be rectified immediately (for instance, if you are writing a letter, or if a customer service representative cannot handle your problem directly), provide your name, address, email address (if contacting them through email or their website), and phone number. If your complaint involves a service or product that uses an account name or number, include this as well. Do not provide passwords, PINs, etc, through the mail unless you are specifically required to do so. Explain how long you are willing to wait for a response before escalating your concerns to the next level.

-- Document your efforts to resolve the problem - including the names of people you spoke to or offices you sent letters to, and what, if anything, was done to resolve the problem. Include this information when taking your communications to the next level. Also maintain copies of any letters, faxes, e-mails, and other documents sent by either party.

Who Else To Complain To

So you've tried complaining everywhere from the place you bought it from to their headquarters and the headquarters of their manufacturer and distributor, and you still aren't satisfied with their response (or lack thereof) to your complaint. So now what? Well, if you still aren't satisfied, there are still some options available.

-- The Better Business Bureau. You probably have heard of the Better Business Bureau already; it is a network of nonprofit organizations (supported by local businesses) that tries to resolve buyer complaints against sellers, and keeps records of unresolved complaints to inform future prospective customers.

-- Consumer Protection Offices. Every state has a department or division responsible for mediating consumer complaints, conducting investigations, and prosecuting companies who violate consumer laws. Many cities and counties also have their own offices to handle these concerns. Take a quick trip down to your local City Hall and find out what office or offices are available for you to contact to mediate unresolved concerns, particularly if you suspect that a law has been violated.

-- State Regulatory Agencies. While you're down at City Hall, you should also find out whether the business in question is under the jurisdiction of a regulatory agency. Utility companies, insurance companies, and financial institutions are examples of businesses that are often under state regulation. If so, you can also contact them for assistance in resolving your complaint.

-- Licensing Agencies. Many businesses require licenses or registration from the state or local jurisdiction in order to conduct business. Again, your visit to City Hall can provide you with more information regarding what agency or agencies might handle complaints and take disciplinary action against a specific business.

-- Trade Associations. Many industries have trade associations established to help resolve problems between member companies and consumers - check this list to see if a trade association exists that can assist you.

-- National Consumer Organizations. Many consumer organizations are focused more on informing the consumer than on handling individual complaints, though they may be interested in hearing about problems, issues, and concerns relating to their area of advocacy, and some do provide assistance with consumer concerns directly. Click here for a list of consumer organizations that may be willing to listen or assist with your complaints.

-- Media. Your local news stations, radio stations, or newspapers may have specialized hotlines or other services to help resolve consumer complaints. Many television news crews have a segment focused on solving consumer problems within their community, and some radio stations and newspapers may be interested in following up on your concerns as well, especially if multiple people are experiencing problems with a specific business.

In short, there are many avenues to follow when a business doesn't measure up to expectations or deliver on its promises. Complaining isn't merely a cathartic exercise, but a useful way to rectify problems and get your money's worth - and if you truly are dealing with a disreputable company, your complaints can be useful in making sure other consumers are forewarned. Don't just ignore it -- stand up and say, "I want to complain!"


Austin Cushing, Money Correspondent:
Austin's column, Common Cents, published on Tuesdays to Gather Essentials: Money, is focused on life below the poverty line and other topics that are of importance to those living paycheck to paycheck.

Austin Cushing is an eccentric writer, consultant, programmer, poet, photographer, and Microsoft-certified database administrator. He writes from personal experience and personal opinion, and enjoys finding the humor in even the darkest aspects of the world. In addition to his column, he maintains Gather groups on a diverse range of topics, from gaming to political discourse.

You can find all of Austin's Common Cents columns at http://commoncents.gather.com. Keep up with Austin's other postings and Gather activity by joining his Gather network -- just click here and select the orange "Connect" button on the left-hand side of the page.


Food for Thought:
Want to know more about protecting yourself as a consumer? I highly recommend that you order the Consumer Action Handbook available here - it's packed full of information useful whether you're below the poverty line or at the top of the tax brackets.

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Comments: 87

Vivian P. Aug 5, 2008, 6:53pm EDT
wow my brother lives on MOnty Python Lane

he really, really does and he's a scholl teacher and a coach
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Dan H. Aug 5, 2008, 6:54pm EDT
Thank You For Posting To:
http://friendsofdanh.gather.com.
Our goal is to help you further your exposure and to support other gather members.
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DIANE D. Aug 5, 2008, 6:58pm EDT
Makes sense
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Amanda C. Aug 5, 2008, 7:06pm EDT
All great advice. I love getting what I want from successful complaining. I hate to complain, but when it's necessary, it's verty satisfying when the situation is resolved.
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Tanzanite S. Aug 5, 2008, 7:14pm EDT
Great column. People shouldn't have to put up with defective goods and services.
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Anne W. Aug 5, 2008, 7:23pm EDT
Thanks!!
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Anne W. Aug 5, 2008, 7:23pm EDT
Thank you for posting to Point Whore! Wishing everyone many, many points!
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Spencer T. Aug 5, 2008, 7:29pm EDT
Good info to have available.
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Rita j. Aug 5, 2008, 7:47pm EDT
thanks
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Karen M. Aug 5, 2008, 8:16pm EDT
Lots of good tips...thanks Austin
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Jill~Sexy Back~ V. Aug 5, 2008, 8:30pm EDT
Great tips Austin.
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Mandi -Watch where the chalk-white arrows go. To the place where the sidewalk ends. S.S. Aug 5, 2008, 9:01pm EDT
wow, that's a lot of bitchin' ;-)
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Kelly Kay Aug 5, 2008, 9:07pm EDT
It happened to me today; lightning struck & fried my modem. I called tech support who sent me to their main office. (Which is 30 miles away) Once there, they tried to direct me to another office about 75 miles from this office. Needless to say I got the modem & wires at the first office, only to find when I got home that I had to contact tech support again. They "fixed" everything for me, until I tried to get online, no dice. So it took me an entire day lots of gas & hours on hold, but I finally have got it fixed. (From 6 AM to 8 PM) I still have a problem with the firewall & several other problems, but I will not call tech support again. Even when people are paid to help- it seems like they are too busy & it just kills me.
Sorry about the rambling. I really appreciate your tips. Thank you!
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Ruthe M. Aug 5, 2008, 9:09pm EDT
Thanks for the useful tips!
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Bonnie F. Aug 5, 2008, 9:11pm EDT
Great article Austin. Many times we want to complain, but don't have a clue if the receipt is lost, etc. Thanks for the valuable information.
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Aug 5, 2008, 9:19pm EDT
that was a fantastic, well written article. I ordered 2 books. Thanks for all the information. love your columns
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Aug 5, 2008, 9:19pm EDT
oh, and its a running joke that you can take used diapers back to Walmart
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Sherine W. Aug 5, 2008, 9:22pm EDT
Great article!
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Margaret G. Aug 5, 2008, 9:24pm EDT
This is great advice.
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Dorothy H. Aug 5, 2008, 9:31pm EDT
Thanks for the info.!
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Marilyn M. Aug 5, 2008, 9:33pm EDT
Thank for the great info, Austin.
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Karen W. Aug 5, 2008, 9:36pm EDT
Thanks for the information~
Karen
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L. H. Aug 5, 2008, 9:37pm EDT
Some days are good some days are bad, complaining, I mean.
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Jan S. Aug 5, 2008, 9:46pm EDT
Very useful information. Thanks, Austin.
I recently posted a scam warning: Scamming the Elderly
It includes links to the FCC sites for complaining about No Not Call violations:
https://esupport.fcc.gov/form1088/1088bform.do
If we don't register complaints, others will experience the same problems, sometimes with disastrous results.
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*Carol ~Bronx Southern Belle D. Aug 5, 2008, 10:14pm EDT
Thanks Austin. I like it.
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lena k. Aug 5, 2008, 10:36pm EDT
thanks
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Barbara B. Aug 5, 2008, 10:42pm EDT
Hey Austin you look so handsome in this new pic!!! Ooh now where was I?
Oooh yeah, I was being over charged for something I ordered through the
mail from a certain catalog that has been around for many many years. Then
I checked in the front pages of my phone book and come up with this person
the Attorney General. Called him up explained what was going on he told me
to fax him a letter stating all I said to him and the catalog companys address
plus other info he needed. About three weeks later I get a letter from that....
catalog company saying they were sorry about the mistake that was made. I
was so happy that the Attorney General resolved that for me it saved me lots
of money which I knew I didn't owe. Glad I looked him up!!
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Vic Needs Coffee Aug 5, 2008, 10:44pm EDT
Great info, thank you.
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ELLEN B. Aug 5, 2008, 11:03pm EDT
Wonderful information. We can never get enough for this problem. And thanks for all the links. I want the book. Ellen B
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Alisa Kerwood Aug 5, 2008, 11:16pm EDT
thanks
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Jan C. Aug 5, 2008, 11:39pm EDT
Wow, thanks ... you are just full of information!
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Patricia J. Aug 5, 2008, 11:59pm EDT
Thanks Austin, great post.
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Neil K. Aug 6, 2008, 12:29am EDT
Great article.
I do however have to disagree somewhat with your advice on contacting the BBB.
The BBB (better business bureau) generally exists to protect the reputations of their dues paying members.
I have heard many a nightmare story about businesses that are members of the BBB.
Friends and contacts of mine have complained to the BBB only to be given the run around when dealing with their (The bbb's) members.

If it is a complaint involving a non member the BBB simply says "sorry, they are not members, we cannot help you".
If the offending company IS a BBB member, the org. will generally make statements to the effect of "well, we don't have any other complaints, we'll take it under advisement", or "well we'll contact the company" without ever actually doing anything.

I have had no less than 10 friends, family, or contacts tell me the same or similar stories re: the BBB with the same result: NO RESULTS, no action taken by the BBB.

It really is an org., or association dedicated to taking in dues and protecting the reputation of businesses (many of which I am sure ARE very good businesses) while trying to assuage the complaints and concerns of the complainant.

This is only MY experience.
You my have had different results with the BBB,
so please do not crucify me IF you are a member or employee of the BBB.
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Sonia M. Aug 6, 2008, 12:30am EDT
Thank you, Austin. I found the address I needed for a problem I had with an airline recently.

Thanks!!!
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Neil K. Aug 6, 2008, 12:31am EDT
10 points for the post though!
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Angela A. Aug 6, 2008, 1:08am EDT
So much information packed into one big article.. I had to stop reading and scroll to the end. Sorry but, it's too early in the morning for me to concentrate.
But, what I read made absolute sense. Thanks for sharing these tidbits.
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Kim J. Aug 6, 2008, 1:32am EDT
Very good article, although I agree with Neil on the BBB--its a crapshoot.
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Sheila Deeth Aug 6, 2008, 1:41am EDT
Thanks. Great advice.
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Heidianna "Coriander" T. Aug 6, 2008, 1:45am EDT
Great advice.
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Corina Carrasco Aug 6, 2008, 2:24am EDT
I think we all owe it to ourselves to speak up when service or product is not what it should be.
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Nurse Nancy S. Aug 6, 2008, 2:43am EDT
I usually never complain to the sales person. I know they probably have nothing to do with the problem. I start with the manager and go up from there.

I used to be pretty wishy-washy about complaining. But as I have gotten older, I realize that I want what is due to me. My money is good and I want good merchandise or service.
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Shelbia C. Aug 6, 2008, 3:37am EDT
Very informative article. Lots of great advice.
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J R B. Aug 6, 2008, 3:58am EDT
Everyone should complain.
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Denise B. Aug 6, 2008, 9:00am EDT
thanks!!
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Tom Wa Aug 6, 2008, 9:03am EDT
As one of who you speak, I appreciate this.
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Lu g. Aug 6, 2008, 9:29am EDT
Thanks for the article great useful information!
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becky soccer mom x1 p. Aug 6, 2008, 9:57am EDT
thanks geat info
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rozina mohaideen Aug 6, 2008, 12:02pm EDT
it's an extremely useful info.....thanks a lot
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Brad D. Aug 6, 2008, 12:19pm EDT
Thanks for this!
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Sharon B. Aug 6, 2008, 1:51pm EDT
thanks for the info
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Christine Zibas Aug 6, 2008, 2:24pm EDT
Thanks for the great article. One thing I would suggest is to complain in person or via the phone. Unfortunately, I don't think you get a very good response from emailing. (It is easier to ignore the complaint.) Also I have my doubts about how helpful the BBB is...as another Gather member has pointed out.

Great advice in your article!
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Samuel G. Aug 6, 2008, 2:55pm EDT
Nice subject matter, well done.
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Adelaide M. Aug 6, 2008, 3:16pm EDT
Great article with great advice. I've done all of the above with Comcast in the past week, and dan finally get online without too much hassle. Thanks so much for that 1-800 directory number as well. That could be very useful at some point.
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Sandy (back in Ohio...blah!) Aug 6, 2008, 5:08pm EDT
What a great article. Thank you for posting to $$ Cash Option Members $$
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Natalie Neal Whitefield Aug 6, 2008, 5:27pm EDT
Excellent advice. (And I like your new look, too!)

I just resolved a problem with Macy's. I always loved Macy's. It was my very first credit card and I kept it mostly for sentimental reasons. Macy's kept de-activating my card because I didn't use it often enough to suit them, and when I asked them to re-activate it, they re-routed me to their customer service department---in India!

Now, I have nothing against India, or the lovely Indian ladies who were trying to help me, but the connection between India and Idaho was almost non-existent. I was trying and they were trying---It was like trying to communicate using two tin cans tied together with a string! Nothing was resolved. I wrote to Macy's today and asked them to close my account. Who needs to go through this kind of torture whenever something goes wrong?

I maintain that any company that does business inside a given country should have the common sense to provide customer service and complaint resolution within that country. Otherwise it is not customer service---it is avoiding the customer!
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Ginny H. Aug 6, 2008, 5:42pm EDT
Here is "A 10 For You!"
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Missy Cline Aug 6, 2008, 5:59pm EDT
great article! I wonce found a whole roach in a pkg of stove top stuffing! I called and they apologized profusely and sent me coupons for free stuffing. LOL took me awhile to use them and for a very long I dumped the dry ingredients into a strainer to look thru it before using!!!
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Missy Cline Aug 6, 2008, 5:59pm EDT
once found a roach even...typing stinky today!
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Ruth Luce Aug 6, 2008, 8:25pm EDT
Lots of great info to have here Austin!
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Roxanne H. Aug 6, 2008, 10:17pm EDT
Good advice! I just lodged a complaint with Jimmy Johns. They responded with a nice email but it still wasn't what I wanted to hear. Rainbow was much better. I saw 100% better customer service in the months following the complaint.
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JoAnne D. Aug 6, 2008, 10:49pm EDT
I think if we complain in a positive way it is a good thing, companies won't know there is a problem if you do not tell them.
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Mae w. Aug 7, 2008, 1:46am EDT
Gr8 advice,ty.
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Brian M. Aug 7, 2008, 10:21am EDT
Thanks for posting at Scores 4 Everyone. Here's a 10 for you.
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Erin P. Aug 7, 2008, 11:55am EDT
I believe there's an Online Better Business Bureau as well for transactions that were completed online. Another thing to keep in mind: if you purchase an item on a credit card and are dissatisfied with it but the manufacturer won't take it back, check with your credit card company. Some have ways to help you get your money back.

Another stellar piece from Mr. Cushing!
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Diana Raabe Aug 7, 2008, 1:04pm EDT
This is great advice and a reminder that we have the right to expect quality goods and service. Manufacturers, stores and service providers get away with too much when we neglect to stand up for ourselves as consumers.

Thanks, Austin.
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Sandre M. Aug 7, 2008, 2:18pm EDT
Austin,
Great article full of sensible information and some great links. Thanks on behalf of everyone who has ever worked in customer service for pointing out that voicing a complaint effectively means bringing a calm product or service complaint to someone's attention, not railing and screaming. I found in the past when I was attempting to help resolve a situation that a great deal of the time the person with the complaint seemed to have no coherent idea of what they wanted to resolve, they just wanted to vent and threaten. Believe me, customer service reps are much more likely to assist people who are not snide, sarcastic, threatening and abusive.
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Melanie B. Aug 7, 2008, 2:50pm EDT
Austin such great advice. Thanks so much for sharing this information. I've bookmarked the consumer action link.
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Ms. Meacham: Money Maven Aug 7, 2008, 6:44pm EDT
Fantastic link to the National Consumer Organizations. Thanks to your post here, I'll be calling the Consumer Federation of America (CFA) in Washington, DC, tomorrow. Hopefully they'll provide me with the resources I need to get to the bottom of a health-care provider privacy violation from about a year ago. I've been sitting on it and really do need to take action.
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Ms. Meacham: Money Maven Aug 7, 2008, 6:48pm EDT
I also did want to leave a comment about the BBB. Many consumers do check the BBB first, before turning to a merchant. If you have a problem with a BBB-member merchant, please do notify the BBB -- even if you have little hope that it will be resolved. Without that contact, there's no way that potential new customers of the business will get your warning when they do their BBB check.

Additionally, the BBB has been known to actually get money back from merchants on behalf of the complaining consumer. For members, the BBB and its "seal of approval" is worth making good with a customer who has a legitimate compliant.

Just my two cents.
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Mary G. Aug 7, 2008, 10:52pm EDT
People should complain for really bad service.
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Kerrell g. Aug 7, 2008, 11:25pm EDT
Well done!
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Kelly M. Aug 8, 2008, 12:48pm EDT
Thanks for the info!
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Jennine D. Aug 8, 2008, 6:36pm EDT
I am a good complainer and usually get pretty good results. A few times I got zip but not often. I am about to file a complaint against Qwest phone service they have been jerking me around for nearly a month now. Keeping saying it is going to be fixed in 24, 48 or 72 hours and the problem is still not fixed. Got a new phone number a business phone supposed to have an 800 number attached to it. Were assigned a number that was someone elses not long ago and when caller ID goes out it comes up as Jessica Bell no one I know by that name. Anyway it is supposed to come up Mountainspices. It isn't. Plus the 800 # part is not working. They sent me a bill I am not paying for the last month because I have not had use of the service. I told them that. They give me a run around between something to do with a residental line and business and billing. I got names, and numbers and order numbers all down. If it ain't fixed come monday as they promised Wednesday I am filing a complaint with the Washington State Utility commisson. The BBB and consumer affairs. I told them such as well. Qwest is the only available service we have where we live so stuck with them. So yup will be screaming already have done the steps 2 and 3 and this is their last chance to fix it.
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Kitty Lone Hawk Aug 8, 2008, 8:04pm EDT
I have a very low tolerance for lazy or ignorant people. And cheaters too so i usually end up complaining A LOT...with great results too.
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*LORA* M. Aug 9, 2008, 12:31pm EDT
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Connitta B. Aug 10, 2008, 11:59am EDT
Thanks for the great info!
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Rachel D. Aug 10, 2008, 5:19pm EDT
I've filed complaints until I'm blue in the face. Sometimes I get results, sometimes I don't.
The tighter the market, the better the results when I complain. If I'm complaining about the electric company or gas company, I'd get better results by beating my head against the wall.
But when Staples screwed up a refund and didn't give me the $3 back thanks to some computer glitch, I got a $25 gift certificate mailed as an apology.
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Sarah Honenberger Aug 10, 2008, 5:25pm EDT
Very helpful and thorough. Bravo.
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Diane "stormyz" B. Aug 11, 2008, 7:59pm EDT
Here's a 10 for you!! Thank you for posting this to the Gimme 10!!! Group


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Elmo A. Aug 11, 2008, 9:14pm EDT
Solid stuff.

Know you are not a fan of Walmart but they are good regarding returns as are Target and Sear in my experience.

Not good customer service - REX

Good - Publix

Also good - Amazon and iTunes
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Elmo A. Aug 11, 2008, 9:17pm EDT
Oh REALLY good customer service - NETFLIX

I guess it be my oldness, but I not going to read any book, watch a TV show or movie on a computer screen. That is today's pov - never say never you know.
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Shannon R. Sep 3, 2008, 8:10pm EDT
Thanks for posting this to my group point4mepoint4u
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Beth - Doing God's work Daily J. Sep 6, 2008, 12:16am EDT
Great info
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Beth - Doing God's work Daily J. Sep 6, 2008, 12:18am EDT
Thanks for posting on Getting to 3000 Together
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Heather ~of the Whippets~ M. Sep 7, 2008, 10:48pm EDT
Great information. Thank you for sharing this, Austin.
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Felicia R. Nov 11, 2008, 3:08am EST
Hello Austin Cushing,

I just wanted to say I am finally going through what is now under 6,500 pieces of gather new mail that is in my inbox on here. So with that in mind I have finally come to a piece of mail that was addressed to me in regards this article submission you have created to share with the gather community. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your piece with us here at gather. :o)
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Kelly M. Nov 16, 2008, 11:36pm EST
thanks for posting to one for me one for you!
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