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by Devin Barber
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LEFT OF THE RIGHT: Is Barack Obama The New "Teflon Kid"?

April 15, 2008 08:54 PM EDT (Updated: April 15, 2008 09:12 PM EDT)
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With no apparent movement in the polls following Barack Obama's "Bitter" gaffe, you know they're pulling their hair out over at the Clinton campaign offices. It was the same with Reagan and yes (hold my nose) Bill Clinton. It never seemed to matter what sort of screwy remark Reagan would make or what woman Clinton would have a dalliance with, the American people just liked these guys and were willing to overlook such idiosyncrasies. And it's becoming more and more apparent the same is true of Barack Obama.

I think Obama's Achilles heel is that he is too thoughtful about choosing his words. And like it is with driving, sometimes if we think about it too hard, we suck at it. His explanation that while true, he had screwed up the way he phrased it was very honest and is something I can identify with. Communication is not what you could call an exact science. Who among us can look back and not wish we'd phrased something we had said differently?

But the fact is that the American people seem to be better at seeing beyond the media hype and realize that Barack Obama is speaking the truth. He may not say it just right every time, but more often than not he does. Anyone whose has followed the Illinois Senator knows his ability as an orator is extraordinary. So it's no wonder how quickly he's jumped on, on the rare occasion he makes a slight gaffe.

It's a matter of likeability. Like Reagan and Bill Clinton, or at least when he was president, the American people liked these guys. Reagan's "Morning in America" was admittedly about as corny as an episode of Hee Haw, but it was effective. He made Americans proud of our country and patriotism came back into vogue. Bill Clinton's charm is a little more mysterious to me, but all in all just as effective in the likeability category.

In conclusion, Barack Obama's apparent ability to have mud slide off without a sign comes from the fact that he inspires hope in people. And although it's a little tough to take, he speaks the truth about who we are and what motivates us. And he has a concrete understanding of the causes of and what it will take to mitigate the problems our society faces.

There's no doubt there is a segment of folks who will hate and seek to block the changes an Obama presidency would bring. I think we are about to see the emergence of a once in a life time leader. And to those who measure a president by something as stupid as "is he the kind of guy I'd have a beer with?" Or "is he a regular kind of guy?" I don't want a regular guy in the White House. I want some one smarter than the average bear. We had a regular guy for the last seven plus years. Not exactly a glowing accolade for the regular guy method of choosing a leader, is it?

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Comments: 198

Doc, in the middle, holding on... Curmudgeon esq. Apr 15, 2008, 9:12pm EDT
no.
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Doc, in the middle, holding on... Curmudgeon esq. Apr 15, 2008, 9:13pm EDT
it's coming and it's gonna be ugly. sad too.
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Karl Leuba Apr 15, 2008, 9:15pm EDT
I am not sure I would call him teflon, mostly because the pundits are not letting go of his "gaffes." But the people who make the decision don't seem to be agreeing with the pundits, and they are not just accepting the ambiguity of his occasional gaffe, they are correctly interpreting them. The fact that he is withing single digits in Pennsylvania against Clinton today is a good indication that the controversies that seem to pop up are fake issues and recognized as fakes. It is like the fellow on the street with the folding display table explained to the cop. "I'm Selling Genuine Fake Rolexes."
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Devin Barber Apr 15, 2008, 9:19pm EDT
The media piled on Reagan and Billy too, but it didn't stick. The measure is "do the people buy it?"
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Ethan G. Apr 15, 2008, 9:22pm EDT
I didn't understand why people thought this was so much of a gaffe. He was making an important point and spoke in a way that was open to misinterpretation, but everyone knows that politicians say all kinds of things in a long campaign and not always as perfectly as possible. I thought the Wright problem was a hundred times worse and, although he handled it as well as possible, it will still come back. This minor gaffe is a nothing issue.
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Jared P. Apr 15, 2008, 9:27pm EDT
Agree on the communication issue and how it is to convey what you mean every once in a while. It even happens when you write sometimes, after multiple edits. So imagine doing 3 stump speeches a day, several interviews for 4 months intensively. Something will slip.

On Teflon Obama. He confronts the issues head on. On Rev. Wright insteady of letting go he gave a speech on the issue. Week later, problem gone with the help of the Clinton Bosnia flap. On this issue, he recognizes that the words did not come out right, but he is not backing down on the bitterness issue one bit. In addition they gave him ammo to tell people that he is the one raised by a single mom, was on food stamp, and so, and goes after the two republicans (Clinton and McCain) on how they are the ones out of touch. Brilliant!
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Jared P. Apr 15, 2008, 9:28pm EDT
You are right Ethan, it seems that the issue is the media's issue. People seem not to care.
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Carol Lloyd Apr 15, 2008, 9:29pm EDT
No he isn't. My concern is what will happened once inside the beltway and he is faced with politics as usual? There are going to be a lot of starry eyed believers out there really crushed. Nothing really that new can happen. Not with a 9 trillion dollar debt. you can have all the dreams you want outside the beltway but once inside you have to be able to pay for your dreams and this country is borrowed out.
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Carol Lloyd Apr 15, 2008, 9:30pm EDT
if you're a good politic an Jared when it doubt keep your mouth shut.
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David K. Apr 15, 2008, 9:34pm EDT
My hope is that the people are beginning to see through the gamesmanship that is Washington politics. Hillary's response to Obama's word choice is so transparent that even her most ardent followers must see it for the "politicking." The Bosnian whopper pretty much destroyed any credibility that remained. It seems most are hoping she loses in PA so she can go back to the Senate, regain her dignity, and get serious about using her ample capabilities to solve some of the problems that still face us.

Yes, the Republicans will reraise the same issues. But look at McCain parroting the same anti-Obama talking points as Clinton. They aren't credible for Clinton and they won't be credible for McCain [Please...Obama is an elitist while Clinton is an average joe...is there anyone who can say they believe that with a straight face].

Also consider how uncomfortable McCain is when you has to attack someone. It seems as if it is painful for him. I think he genuinely hates doing it. So I think he and Obama can have a relatively civil campaign against each other (not uncontentious, for there are significant policy differences, but certainly more civil than usual). This, of course, won't keep 527s like this year's version of the Swiftboaters and MoveOn.org from ramping up the rhetoric. But overall I think the general election will be an intellectual discourse more than a civil war.
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Alan D. Apr 15, 2008, 9:36pm EDT
Good artile Devin.

This is a non-story. It is amazing how the entire country goes in panic mode when these stories break. The media keeps feeding this junk because it affects the ratings. He is handling it very well and the reality is people like the guy. They must be trying to figure out how to take on the guy. It's not working.
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David K. Apr 15, 2008, 9:45pm EDT
On Jared's comment above "He confronts the issues head on."

I think this is the difference. As Jared said, he took on the Rev. Wright issue and discussed it in terms of what it really means rather than as simply an inflammatory sound bite to be exploited and manipulated by Fox News. With his recent diction gaffe he came to terms with the fact that his word choice was easily misinterpretable from his meaning, yet has used it as a mechanism for opening up a discourse on the main issue he was trying so inelegantly to address.

To recap: Hillary Clinton makes up some fantastic story about sniper fire in Bosnia and gets laughed at because the video clearly shows it was a total fabrication. Barack Obama takes politicized comments and turns it into a discussion of a much larger issue that normally gets ignored while candidates play "gotcha" with each other.

Isn't that what we want? Someone willing to take on the tough issues and facilitate a discourse? Perhaps if we're talking to each other we might accidentally come up with a solution that is good for America and not just good for one political party or another. Wow...how radical is that? [Sarcasm intended]
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Chris W. Apr 15, 2008, 9:45pm EDT
Devin- well observed. I expect the mud slinging to continue however. McCain and Clinton are likely to think: dang that did not work, because I did not use enough mud.
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Michael Harvey Apr 15, 2008, 9:50pm EDT
Devin I think you are right on point. I am not sure what Carol's point is. She apparently over looks the fact that Mr. Obama is a lawyer and is capable of coming up with ideas to solve the nation's problems. Notwithstanding the fact that he is black and white all over.
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Jared P. Apr 15, 2008, 9:54pm EDT
Agree David on John McCain. McCain knows Obama is a decent fellow and he does not want to go that route. Tonight Chris Matthews asked him if Obama was an elitist he responded with a flat out NO! He went on to say the comments were elitist. Now, ask Clinton that question. She will give an answer like the one she gave when she was asked if he were a Muslim: "As far as I know"

Her tactics are straight from karl Rove playbook. Have you seen the PA add about the Bitter comments? I hope it bounces off the Teflon.
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 15, 2008, 10:43pm EDT
And not to mention, that the people that Obama was talking about, guns, religion, ant-immigrant, probably won't even vote for him anyway. I know some of those types here in NC and they are very handy at using the ''n'' word. One even told me that she would never vote for a ''n'' because he'll just make slaves out of us white people. I'm ''not'' saying that ''all'' the gun, religion people are racists, but the ones I know, are.

BTW, did anyone see clinton shoot back her ''crown royal'', sipppp.
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 15, 2008, 10:44pm EDT
Devin, where's the video. I need some laughs.
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Don B. Apr 15, 2008, 10:55pm EDT
Obama has told as many lies as has CLinton. His voting record sucks, what there is of it.
He has less foreign policy experience than I do. Yes, he went to school in some third world countries. SO WHAT! That doesn't mean a thing.

One lie. Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

two lies. I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

three lies. .) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

four lies. No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

five lies. I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

And the list goes on and on.

Go simple minds, follow the messiah. Like lemmings to the sea.
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Delores Williams Apr 15, 2008, 10:56pm EDT
The short answer, yes. Obama supporters overlook obvious major issues because they don't want to admit they got taken in by the hype that the media created.
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Alan D. Apr 15, 2008, 10:59pm EDT
Obama talked about the same thing in 2004 without the word Bitter. He talked about people hunting, and church on TV! The wording was slightly different.

Here is a video.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/04/a_discussion_about_the_pennsyl.html
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Dave McGill Apr 16, 2008, 12:18am EDT
Good article Devin, and - as a matter of fact - I remember his popularity actually went up after that volley about rev. Wright.

As far as those small town comments were concerned, number one it was small potatoes....an attempt to build a tempest in a teapot....and, in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if many small towners didn't agree with him.

Basically, it's all good...the more that bounces off his teflon shield now, the less effective the sure-to-come dirty tricksters in the Republican Party will be, should he win the nomination.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 16, 2008, 1:29am EDT
But the fact is that the American people seem to be better at seeing beyond the media hype and realize that Barack Obama is speaking the truth.

It's so refreshing and encouraging to see this happen. Barack Obama is charismatic, but what he has goes way beyond that. He exudes something that earns trust, hope, and comfort.
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Don B. Apr 16, 2008, 1:41am EDT
Sandy,
He is only trusted by the lemmings that follow along blindly behind him. He is a CON MAN, a snake oil salesman. He's the new "Slick Willy". And the media loves him. Otherwise they would have already crucified him for his remarks and his racist views. Only the left wingers and liberals love him.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 16, 2008, 3:31am EDT
Don, you said things about me that are not true. So, even if I didn't already know you are wrong about Obama, I would still suspect you are doing the same to him and disregard you.
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Carol LeHane Apr 16, 2008, 5:42am EDT
The media may be giving coverage to Obama's gaffes, but a large part of that coverage is dedicated to pundits explanations of why his gaffes are not as bad as they sound. In that sense Obama is the new Teflon Kid, but in the general elections he will be up against "Teflon John" and I have already seen evidence that some of the same pundits who have helped make Obama the new "Teflon Kid" are still treating Teflon John with kid gloves.

If Obama does end up the Democratic nominee one of the most interesting aspects of the general election may be watching some pundits and reporters struggle with the decision as to whether they are going to replace the kid gloves to which both candidates have become accustomed, with steel wool that will mar the Teflon coating of the candidate who encounters them.

In some cases, mostly Republican pundits who have also been treating Obama with kid gloves, I have already seen indications that Obama will be the one whose coat gets marred.

As for the polls that seems to suggest that the giraffes have not affected Obama's popularity, I think they have been affected by to many people worrying about being labeled a racist if they do not voice support for Obama and they will not have to worry about that label or any other pejorative label being attached to them when they leave a voting booth.

The extent to which racial, gender and other bias have permeated the primary elections have made many afraid to express an honest opinion even if that opinion is not affected by any such bias. There are enough reasons to decide to support or not support a particular candidate without having racial, gender or other prejudice enter into the decision but there are too many people who are unable to see that through the biased glasses that they wear.
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Winston Smith Apr 16, 2008, 7:28am EDT
I will give him that name if he wins in November. Then he's earned it.

You gotta look who he's running against. People WANT Obama to suceed so that Mrs. Clinton doesn't get the nomination. The media WANTS Obama to suceed. That's why they treat him with kid gloves.

Right now, it's fighting amongst yourselves. I want to see it strung out as long as possible. The next challange is McCain. That's a whole new ball game.

I will give him that name if he wins in November. Then he's earned it.
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Winston Smith Apr 16, 2008, 7:39am EDT
Omama is wearing a US Flag pin on his lapel now. He has resisted wearing one.

I guess he needs to wear it to deflect some of the "bitterness" towards him.

Why now? Why not in the past?
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Mary Ann R. Apr 16, 2008, 7:39am EDT
As Devin intelligently points out, why would we want an "average Joe" as President? Let's choose by lottery then! No candidate is going to identify with all segments of American society. All three candidates have had an unusual life journey and certainly aren't ordinary Americans. We should focus on their ideas and how we believe they will change our future, rather than who is "in touch" with the American people. The concerns of a single mom raising a child in a bad neighborhood are not the concerns of a working class family terrified by the cost of college or the issues of a small business owner trying to expand. Yet, they are all citizens.
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Eric (Don't Tread On Me) Spindler Apr 16, 2008, 7:59am EDT
I echo Winston's comment.
It's like me, putting on a wig and a dress so' I don't offend homosexuals....ain't happenin'! It would be a subtle lie.
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Eric (Don't Tread On Me) Spindler Apr 16, 2008, 8:02am EDT
I like Ron Paul.
The media only follows the hype gang.
Where'e the big-splash media displays of Ron Paul?
Oh, yeah, he's not a diferent color or a woman...it appears that is the only facet the media REALLY has going...again those factors are non-issues. CLose your eyes ad imagine they are all white males..then assess their actual strengths and weaknesses.
I think that you would find under the facade that you have two of the worst options in Obama and Clinton.
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Eric (Don't Tread On Me) Spindler Apr 16, 2008, 8:05am EDT
Oh, since we are putting "different" up for election, where are the homosexual candidates? What about a Mexican?

I grew up in a multi-national school system during high school.
You can't tell me there is a difference in people just because of race or color. I have a myraid of friends from around the world...we celebrate our differences as a better, deeper friendship than what I see here in America, the land of the 'race card'.
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 16, 2008, 8:41am EDT
Hey, some of you, haven't you heard. Fox news isn't real news. It's entertainment.
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penni d. Apr 16, 2008, 8:42am EDT
I am a bit too jaded to believe the truth is coming from any politician, alas...but I noticed you have 32 raes, and 430 views. Someone LIKES your article...:)
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Rude D. Apr 16, 2008, 9:00am EDT
I can clearly see the media and others have let Obama's lies slide. Once we get into the real campaign do you think McCain will not ask him to explain his LIES?
I see it as an out and out LIE that Obama, back when, said he didn't know how he would vote on the war with Iraq, yet now he claims he was always against it. Is everyone ignoring the 800 lb gorilla. Wow, I can't even issue a pun without making it sound racist. Is this the problem, is this the reason for the kid-gloves?
I will not pout and vote McCain because my candidate Hill lost, but not testing Obama now does not help win a Democrat victory and may sentence us to 100 years of war. Seen the polls lately?
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Winston Smith Apr 16, 2008, 9:04am EDT
And Anderson Cooper, Joe Scarbourough, Katie COuric, George Stephanopolus, and David Broncacio are not left biased? I think they are "entertainment".
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Aunt Boni H. Apr 16, 2008, 9:24am EDT
I think Obama IS a regular guy ~ in the sense of the term that he's got a pretty good idea of what the rest of us "regular guys" are living in right now. His "gaffe" remarks are/were spoken in language that (most) "regular guys" understand, and I think it pretty much describes our current sentiments to a T.

Whether we're Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or anything in between; whether we're black, white, or any other color; whether we're gainfully employed or standing in the unemployment line, we're BITTER about the present status of America.

Is Senator Obama a "regular guy" (like the idiot we have in DC now?) No. He's an irregular guy that has the b*lls to stand up in front of us and state out loud exactly what the rest of us are thinking. We're not just "bitter", we're pissed off. And if we get aboard with Obama at the helm, maybe we keep this ship afloat.
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Jeannie B. Apr 16, 2008, 9:54am EDT
//I see it as an out and out LIE that Obama, back when, said he didn't know how he would vote on the war with Iraq, yet now he claims he was always against it// Wow, even though he was against the war, he wasn't sure how he'd vote. Must have been a lie; it couldn't possibly have been that he was leaving room for a reasonable doubt that Congress might have been privy to information we regular citizens weren't. Or even state legislators. Must have been a lie. Yeah right.

I'm not sure Obama is the Teflon kid; maybe the American people are starting to see through transparent tactics like Swiftboating. Or maybe not. It's not hard to duck such obviously made-for-media hype when one's opponent is willing to out-and-out lie in order to pad her resume.
Jeannie B., Apr 16, 2008
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 10:07am EDT
"But the fact is that the American people seem to be better at seeing beyond the media hype and realize that Barack Obama is speaking the truth."

I beg to differ, Devin. The Democrat primary voters seem to be infatuated with Barry. Not the American people. He still trails McCain in general election polls and we haven't even gotten into the meat of that campaign yet. When his virulently radical left-wing record is exposed ... and it will be exposed ... I'll stand a better chance of being elected President that Barry; and, I can assure if chances can be less than zero, they would be my Presidential chances.

Get used to hearing President John L. McCain
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Alan D. Apr 16, 2008, 10:17am EDT
"maybe the American people are starting to see through transparent tactics like Swiftboating."

This is swiftboating at its heist, and he is holding on pretty good. Maybe the American people are helping.

Yesterday, Politico published Barack Obama's Father's essay and started analyzing it. What are we supposed to do with a presidential candidate's father's essay? Bed time reading?

More ridiculous, this candidate's father left when he was 2 years and he saw him once at 10 years old. Are they suggesting political, socio-economic beliefs' are in one's DNA? If not why publish Barack Obama's father's essay that deals with the Kenyan government 40 years ago? How is this helping the voter?
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Winston Smith Apr 16, 2008, 10:49am EDT
"swiftboating"? What do you mean by Swiftboating?

Do you mean a bunch of guys that worked with Kerry in the service that had the guts to actually speak their minds because what they experienced didn't really match what Mr Kerry was saying publically?

Or is "swiftboating" just exposing the "content of one's charactor"?
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 11:16am EDT
"Oh, man - Please don't give me nightmares. (Shudder)."

Tell me, Jim. The thought disturbs me, as well. Truman would be considered shy and retiring after I got done with the Oval Office.
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Diana Raabe Apr 16, 2008, 11:17am EDT
I think it's unfortunate that so much attention gets paid to gaffes and the inevitable ensuing punditry. It seems that Obama tries to get beyond some of the "junk" and so does McCain, for that matter. Neither one is "teflon" - that's entertainment.

A national election between those two would be something to watch.
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Devin Barber Apr 16, 2008, 11:55am EDT
Today's Ruetter's poll has Obama & McCain tied with McCain edging Clinton out.
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Winston Smith Apr 16, 2008, 12:03pm EDT
That poll is with McCain not doing any serious campaigning.

This will be the election to watch..........
A. Will conservative Republicans donate and volunteer for McCain? (they will vote for him but will the put their hearts into it?)
B. Will Clinton supporters do the same for Obama? (Yes, they will vote for him but will they put their hearts into it)
C. Will the folks that call themselves "moderates" actually vote for the moderate candidate. (McCain).
D. With the traditional media such as CBS/NBC/ABC/NYTimes becoming absolete, how will the new media treat elections.
E. Will the traditional media drink the Obama Kool-aid? How obvious will the bias seem?

It's gonna get ugly folks
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Winston Smith Apr 16, 2008, 12:30pm EDT
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Bookmark it. The best website to give you ALL the polls, ALL the columnists.

Not just what your local newspaper wants you to see.
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Alan D. Apr 16, 2008, 12:46pm EDT
Remember Kerry beating Bush by 14 in May 4 years ago?

These match polls don't mean much. Things will be said, ads will be run, people will pick sides. The reality is once again, half of the country will be voting on abortion, gay marriage, and God.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 16, 2008, 2:15pm EDT
Ah, Devin, I also noticed the stats on this article. 550/48 view/comments. It excites me to see that people really are reading the good stuff!
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Devin Barber Apr 16, 2008, 2:46pm EDT
Nice try Rich,
But you better get used to saying President Obama. But on the other hand, just think of all the things you'll get to bitch about.
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Bill's Spirit Apr 16, 2008, 2:52pm EDT
The truth about Obama is that he is not perfect and some of his human imperfections have been leaking out.

The most disturbing thing I've been seeing from him lately -- and I've always had a feeling that there was something hiding -- is a tendency towards smug cockiness. That is a big turn-off to me, precisely because it is a known component of a Messiah complex.

Barack looks like a great candidate, but I am still not yet feeling comfortable and confident about having him as our President.

I'd rather have had Biden or Edwards.
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 3:04pm EDT
"But you better get used to saying President Obama."

LOL

Barry's not making it out of Denver. Bill is going to "Tanya Harding" him between now and August. Bubba and Hill are accustomed to dealing with people who give them problems. Ask the McDougals, Webb Hubble, Vince Foster (oops, forget Vince, they REALLY took care of him) ... the list goes on and on and on.

As I said, President John L. McCain. The paleoliberals had better start getting used to the idea now, so it won't be such a shock come Nov. 5.

This is going to such a FUN six months!!!
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 3:17pm EDT
Dont you find it a bit silly that, even at this stage in the campaign, the number one reason for supporting Obama are "hope and change"?
Rich Kaye, Apr 16, 2008, 2:54pm EDT

I hope the change will be hopeful, because if we don't have change, how can we have hope? The only hope for change, will be when we hope for the change that will change our hope. So my friends, while you're hoping for the change that will change your hope don't forget the changed hope you had before your hope changed.

Thank you and God Bless America.
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Devin Barber Apr 16, 2008, 3:18pm EDT
Such optimism,
I got to hand it to you two because even the most respected "Republican" commentators are saying this is the year of the Democrats. But I want to be careful and warn you not to get to wrapped in the idea of a McCain victory. I wouldn't want either of you doing something stupid when Obama wins.
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Bill's Spirit Apr 16, 2008, 3:23pm EDT
Rich Kaye said: "He better steal some good sneakers (ok, I just couldnt resist)"


"..steal some good sneakers.."... What is that, Rich? Some kind of racist gibe at Obama?
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 3:26pm EDT
"... even the most respected "Republican" commentators are saying this is the year of the Democrats. "

Which is usually immediately followed with the statement, "But, the Democrats seem dead-set on screwing this up."

But, like Barry says, "Yes, we can! -- (screw this up)"
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 4:53pm EDT
Does this mean the typical white person is bitter, clings to religion, clings to guns, is xenophobic, and is anti-trade?
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Ivan N. Apr 16, 2008, 4:54pm EDT
I'm not making a"teflon" statement until after the final primary in June. Maybe not until after the Convention.
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donna f. Apr 16, 2008, 5:01pm EDT
Unfortunately, I came to this article immediately after reading the report of the 38 attorneys who are on the Obama fundraising team, who either work for lobbyists or are "former" lobbyists themselves. Whatever happened to "I am the only candidate who has not taken $$ from lobbyists"? While technically, that may be true, those attorneys have avowed to raise $3.5 million for the Obama campaign. The report states that the 38 lawyers were paid 138 million last year to lobby the federal gov't. I think that just blew my trust for the man,
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Skip Bleecker Apr 16, 2008, 5:12pm EDT
RIGHT ON! I have begun to like this guy more and more as Hillary keeps loosing my respect with every thing nasty thing she does.
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Jared P. Apr 16, 2008, 5:25pm EDT
LOL. I read one article that says Obama said this and it aint true! That's it, he Lost my Trust!!!

Pleaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzze!!!

I read it in a book it must be true.

These lawyers quit so they can work for the campaign. Obama does not take PAC money and that was corroborated by factcheck. He does not take money from lobbyists. Never said former, how is that a breach of trust?
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David B. Apr 16, 2008, 5:50pm EDT
"He just a much better at lying, and much less experienced."

And, there's the change!
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 16, 2008, 7:28pm EDT
Rich,
''- not being able to distance himself from a racist and anti-american church''

So I guess you wont be voting for mcbu$h either. After all, he wont distance himself from the ''preacher'' that called the Catholic church, a cult. huh? Or maybe you think that too.
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Rude D. Apr 16, 2008, 7:42pm EDT
swiftboating"? What do you mean by Swiftboating?

Do you mean a bunch of guys that worked with Kerry in the service that had the guts to actually speak their minds because what they experienced didn't really match what Mr Kerry was saying publically?

Where have you been. Swiftboating means LYING.
Those comrades were not even in that battle. It was Kerry's own crewmates who were spitting fire at the LIES the swift boater were spewing. You really must takes your news from someone other than Rush Limpbaugh .
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Linda G. Apr 16, 2008, 7:46pm EDT
Sorry, I see Obama as giant ego that has fooled many people. The man portrays himself as above the other politicians when in fact he is just like the rest. It has already come to light that he will happily say anything voters want to hear and wink, wink, he doesn'y really plan to act on those ideas.
His friend Deval Patrick is my governor. He ran on change and being different. Oh yeah, I bought it! Just like Obama, people got energized, excited and had great hopes. I voted for Patrick and campaigned for him. Guess what? He is a total waste of time as governor!!! First act was to buy a new limo and then he spent thousands of dollars on new drapes for his office. Our state is in terrible financial trouble. He was able to do nothing he promised and then tried to bring in three casinos to balance te budget. He doesn't get along with the legislature and his casino plan failed. Now we are in worse trouble. Where is he? In NY working a book deal with Obama's publisher. The rest o fthe timehe is out of the state campaigining for Obama. Do not be fooled Obama is just another power hungry politician, but he is worse since he has no experience and will not get the Congress to cooperate because he turns so many people off with his arrogance. He has divided this country, not united it.
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Rude D. Apr 16, 2008, 7:50pm EDT
* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell's debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won't back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* And now he's both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.
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sally r. Apr 16, 2008, 8:36pm EDT
I've been out of town. Thanks for emailing me with this article. Senator Obama is the man we need to lead us out of this "chaos" we've been led into. Lee Iacoca just wrote a new book and it is absolutley fantastic. He is wondering where the leaders are. Just a couple of more months of crapola from the media and then we can see how Obama and McCain fair in the role of "Leader".
As far as I am concerned, McCain will not be a leader, "Staying the Course" is where He seems comfortable.
I hope we get a chance for a "New Course.".
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 16, 2008, 10:45pm EDT
Rude D.

Interesting information about mcbu$h. But of course, flip flopping only applies to the democrats. When a dem. appears to ''change'' his mind, they label him ''weak''. If ''their'' candidate does it , they consider it ''growth''. Changing positions, that are ''good'' for America, you know. The republibots are as two faced as it gets.
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Brian T. Apr 16, 2008, 11:01pm EDT
Why things aren't sticking to Obama? The reason is that people are seeing beyond the smoke screens. Hillary is a desperate candidate that is about to be defeated, she has got to pull out all stops just to stay in the race. Hillary is a Clinton and they will lie like a rug to get what they want at the time. The American people are seeing Hillary for what she is.

Swift boat ads and internet smear attacks aren't going to work against Obama in the general, then how do you beat him? You beat Barack Obama by playing him a straight game of pool.
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Sherwood M. Apr 16, 2008, 11:08pm EDT
If he is, it is only because the Media, out of fear of having the race card played on themselves, is treating Obama with kid gloves.
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Brian T. Apr 16, 2008, 11:53pm EDT
Internet smear attacks haven't worked in the primary and thus there is no precedent for it working in the general. If they did Hillary wouldn't be were she is- behind and Barack wouldn't be were he is- in front. Barack is matching up fairly well against McCain in the polls so far. People know about Rev. Wright, and Baracks' so called lack of patriotism and his elitism and the slash and burn politics of the past currently ain't working. I know internet smears worked against McCain in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, but this guy is Barack Obama and it 2008, that just may be the difference.
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Brian T. Apr 17, 2008, 12:10am EDT
Only thing I can say with 3.50 gas prices, 4.35 for diesel at my local station, people losing their homes, a war with no end in sight, food prices going up, McJobs replacing middle class jobs in the rust belt and health care no longer affordable for many. America can't afford 4 more years of GW Bush, which is what McCain has to offer.

Bring McCain on!
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Don B. Apr 17, 2008, 12:13am EDT
Can you say President John McCain. Obammy isn't going to win. The lies and side stepping the questions won't cut it in November.
Maybe he will have William Ayers start a bombing campaign to get him elected. Or maybe J.Wright can incite enough racial unrest to get ALL the black vote. It still won't be enough.
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Brian T. Apr 17, 2008, 12:16am EDT
Time will tell, especially when people look at their bank accounts or lack of one.
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Bill's Spirit Apr 17, 2008, 6:56am EDT
Rich Kaye - Thanks for being honest about your racist attitudes.
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 17, 2008, 6:56am EDT
''Maybe he will have William Ayers start a bombing campaign to get him elected. ''

Yeah, I heard that they got together to plan this conspiracy, back when Ayers was in the Weather Underground and Obama was 8 years old, for Obama to run for president. Then their going to do some really terrible things, like provide those dangerous poor people with health care, and bring down the price of gas, and ''try'' to bring Americans together to undivide the country. How awful.

BTW, just heard of a new republibot plan, bu$h is implementing, to take DNA from people that are just ''accused'' of committing a crime. Talk about un Constitutional. But hey, ''it's just a piece of paper'', huh?
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Samuel G. Apr 17, 2008, 8:10am EDT
Once again the media has missed the mark, ABC's debate carnival was and example of recycled sewage and sludge. It was a fine example of trite media moderating representative of the jokes Jon Stewart will make of it. Have we not heard enough about wearing a flag pin, Bush and Cheney, draft dodgers and AWOL from the National Guard wear the pin to excuse their complete lack of patriotism by shorting our veterans with good medical care, and a GI Bill that will help them recover lost career opportunities while serving the pin flag wearers. Oh yes and the no bid contracts to Halliburton and kindred corporations who fleece our treasury with poor or non-existent performance. Are these the real patriots or are the real patriots those who take the oath to support the constitution and make it their aim to do so rather than destroy it.
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Sheryl O. Apr 17, 2008, 9:34am EDT
Very well written, Devon. "I don't want a regular guy in the White House. I want some one smarter than the average bear. "

I could not agree more. I'm sick of stupid, incompetent people leading this country with manipulating sound bytes that are meant to divide and inflame (and are ludicrously untrue or meaningless when actually examined with thought and research). I am honored to be able to finally cast a vote for Obama, a person who I admire and respect for so many reasons.

I certainly hope that the American people, or at least the majority of them, are able to look past the media idiocy concerning this honorable man and vote for the most intelligent, most insightful, most well-informed and positive person we have had in quite a while as a choice for the person to lead this country.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Apr 17, 2008, 10:20am EDT
No. He is believable not due to some manmade substance. He is credible, because he is telling the truth, and the American people can smell the difference between fresh air and stench.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Apr 17, 2008, 10:21am EDT
. . .and apparently so can Bruce Springsteen!
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 17, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
I don't know? What's wrong with that. Hey, geogie boy used it, and was a drunk too. And that's just what we know.

''The president is a 'near''

What's wrong Rich, can't you even say it.
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James C. Apr 17, 2008, 7:04pm EDT
Rich,

I suppose you think there is no such thing as a typical white person? And if all Obama had to offer was change, that would be enough after eight years of Bush! Any change! And McCain does not offer change, just flip-flop and stay the course.

While Obama's statements may not be the best way of wording something, if you actually believe he was insulting someone you are not nearly as intelligent as I have assumed you to be! Actually, at risk of "offending someone" I'd say that most of his statements have been basic truth.

Things have not stuck to him because no one has brought anything of substance up to hang on him. If he really commits and error, the press will hold his feet to the fire just like they did Jimmy Carter! But the church he goes to or the exact wording of certain comments is hardly newsworthy!

Yes, Obama will be up against the swiftboat crew in the general and the very worst Karl Rove can think of to throw at him. This promises to be one of the most hard fought, bitter, and dirty campaigns if the new-con machine can make it so.
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David B. Apr 17, 2008, 7:39pm EDT
"I suppose you think there is no such thing as a typical white person?"

Obviously you do, James. Do you agree to share with us exactly what that might be?
Please enlighten us to the "truth" as you see it.
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Winston Smith Apr 17, 2008, 9:19pm EDT
I thought Obama was half white?

So, he's black too? Are we going by the old slave days withthe "one drop" theory?

What is "swiftboating" or "swiftboat crew". Do you mean that people who worked with Obama will come forth to question the validity of his past that he made public?
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Mariana T. Apr 17, 2008, 10:53pm EDT
If we elect another Clinton into office, then it goes to show,this country hasn't moved forward one inch. Salud.
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Mariana T. Apr 17, 2008, 10:56pm EDT
I am not a typical white person - so therefore I am voting for Obama. Salud.
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James C. Apr 18, 2008, 1:43am EDT
Rich,

Had you been a "typical black person" in the United States for the past 100 years, with its segregation, subjugation, open discrimination and unequal treatment of the black people, just how proud of this country would you imagine that you might feel? Things have improved a great deal for black people but the discrimination still exists, albeit much less obvious.

It is true that the swiftboating has yet to begin! The lies that will be told in an effort to discredit Obama are still on the drawing boards. Like with Kerry, they will focus on one of Obama's strengths and try to convince people that it is false or counter productive.

You've already contributed to this by trying to make something where it is not such as typical white person. There was nothing wrong with that statement and it certainly does not indict him as racist. In fact, that is patently absurd! the elitist you might make a case for excepting that the case you've offered does not indicate that, it is simply the truth.

No Obama was not my candidate, but the things being brought up against him are strictly the stuff of which swiftboating is made. Trying to hang a few seconds of comment by his pastor on Obama is a cheap shot, and you are not the only one making it, but it will be rejected by a seasoned electorate.

It is my understanding that Obama has been pressured into wearing the flag lapel pin as of the most recent information. Should not have been an issue. Did St. Regan wear a flag pin at all times? Or did Eisenhower?

No one challenged either of them on patriotism. Patriotism has been labeled the last refuge of a scoundrel and well labeled it is. You can say anything about a person if you challenge his or her patriotism. Personally, I detest any politician, Democrat or Republican, who continually tries to live off of patriotism and drapes his faults and errors in the flag. And this is being done on both sides of the isle.

I doubt that McCain will try to go the super patriot route. His credentials are clearly superb when it comes to being an American patriot, as are those of Cindy Shehan, who lost a son to this war. But being a great prisoner of war is scarcely the qualification we need to have in the presidency!

I'll acknowledge that McCain might win, that's too far in the future to forecast, but the things you've tried to make a case with are too little and too late. They are being sung by better liars than you will ever be, but I would hope that the American voter is now more sophisticated to fall for this line again.

One of the sad considerations of all this is the potential side effect of such underhanded gamesmanship. With Kerry, the swiftboater managed to denigrate all the military medals and honors ever awarded to this nations veterans. The swiftboaters figuratively spit on the medals of those who have earned them! I'm sure this years campaign will result in equally negative results and hurt many, but they don't care, their job is to get their man elected!
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James C. Apr 18, 2008, 1:48am EDT
David B,

No, I'll not play that game with you. You know very well just what is meant by that expression and granted, it might vary somewhat with the person making the comment, it is in no way racist or insulting and you know it very well.

It is a good mark for Obama that you people are having to resort to non-issues in order to make a half a case against the man! While he is not perfect by a long shot, neither is any other candidate. He was not my pick but he is looking better all the time as he responds to invalid criticisms and gamesmanship.

He seems to be able to motivate and activate people and perhaps, that is what we need in the White House for a change. I still favor Clinton but you would have just as much to say in an effort to discredit her because you are a Republican and that is the way the game is played!
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 18, 2008, 7:29am EDT
''But as for the "president is 'near" comment, it comes from a classic comedy movie.''

And one of my favorite Gene Wilder movies. I understood that. But why are you so against a mixed person, gaining the most powerful office in the world. 2 of my grandkids are mixed, and they are just as smart and just as loving as my ''all white'' grandson. Does statements like that make me a racist. No. When people like you, make statements like,

''Your welcome. Im assuming its ok for me to be racist. I mean, it wouldnt be fair for your candidate to be allowed that privalege, and not us typical white people.''

offends me and many others. If ''you'' can attribute a slip up, to racism, does that mean the ''we'' can attribute ''forgetfulness'', misspelling, and punctuation, as uneducated. I think you know what I mean.

''Think about it. They will go after McCain on:
- Age - Is his mind as really that healthy
- Flip-flops - That's what brought Kerry down
- Temper'' - That one speaks for it's self

As fas as Obama ''not'' wearing a lapel flag. Extreme patriotism is on of the 14 characteristics of fascism.
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 18, 2008, 7:33am EDT
BTW, ''But being a great prisoner of war is scarcely the qualification we need to have in the presidency!''

It kinda says that he wasn't too smart. Many other pilots in Viet Nam were shot down and were smart enough to evade their enemy, and managed to ''not'' get caught.
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Dr. dummy (I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid) B. Apr 18, 2008, 8:46am EDT
Rich,

''Thats just absurd''

Why, because he's your candidate.
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Winston Smith Apr 18, 2008, 10:54am EDT
Silly you,

Liberal black people can't be racist!
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Debra C. Apr 18, 2008, 12:02pm EDT
Teflon, no. He does still seem to be given a lot of slack, though. In this sound bite age, how media clips are used is concerning as we evaluate our voting choices.

That said, he is learning on the campaign trail. Not every candidate does that, and I give him credit for it (not excited to vote for him at this point, but credit where it is due).
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Winston Smith Apr 18, 2008, 2:42pm EDT
That Clinton/Obama dream team is lookin' better than ever!
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Devin Barber Apr 18, 2008, 4:32pm EDT
I personally don't like the idea of an Obama/Clinton ticket. She'll end up becoming an albetross around his neck. And God knows what sort of embarassing shananagans Billy will be up to. No, those two just need to go away.
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