Dems Maneuvering for 2008

But, the three Democratic party front runners are all saying that we will be there for some number of years, and yesterday the Senate by a 92-3 margin approved $1.5B in financing for the Iraqi effort. Harry Reid is clearly a joke as a "leader".

I agree, it is a disgrace that some would put party politics before other issues. Isn't that what has been going on the last few years?

I don't think they have anything to worry about. I seriously don't think they're going to win in 2008. Not with what they have to pick from. We have at least one or two who can do it. Guilliani and Thompson (my fav).

Harry Reid is pathetic. Whenever I hear him speak, I can't believe he's in any kind of leadership position. I just feel sorry for him.

Actually, I'm not impressed with the candidates from either side at this point.

This is an interesting post. I wonder how it will all pan out.

Dancing with my Dream (Vote Round Two)"

I'm wondering what will happen to.
There seems to be a lot of flip-flopping with a lot of the candidates.

Me too! I do!~

We have some strange people running.

The Dems are just plain liars, no matter how you look at it. I dont think we will leaving Iraq anytime soon either.

Geez, I could have sworn that the Democrats just passed another Defense Authorization Bill for how many billions of our dollars to go to Iraq and Afghanistan. The media-annointed Democratic "front-runners' for President have all refused to commit to having the troops out of Iraq by the end of their first term if elected! The Democrats in Congress have clearly given up on trying to end the war (even though all they'd have to do is refuse to fund it; but that would take integrity and backbone), let alone the fact they also clearly show no interest in reigning the Bush/Cheney "unitary executive" unconstitional power-grabbing warmonger squad. The Senate -- despite the ravings of Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh -- show more interest in "condemning" a newspaper ad then in restoring constitutional government. The Senate also just voted overwhelmingly for an amendment in the Defense Bill, which labels Iran's Republican Guard a "terrorist organization" (evidence apparently not required), paving the way for a geopolitical disaster (and economic crisis to boot) when Bush and Ccheney decide to take that amendment as an invitation to start bombing.

Seems to me that the Democrats are doing everything and anything that any big-government-cheering, statist/loyalist, leftist-cum-"conservative" (albeit "open-minded") would want!
Whats the problem?

You missed this morning's speech, Steve.

You're right, Dan. If I had listened to the speech, I'm certain I would have heard the Democrats saying that their goal is to lose the war so they can win the 2008 election.

Don't worry, Dan. I know how this one plays out (I already read the script.... don't tell anyone, ok?). Here's what happens:

The Democrats tell everyone that they want nothing more than to end the occupation in Iraq, prevent a war from happening in Iran, and reign in the Bush administration's unconstitutional power grabs.

The Republican's pretend like ending the disasterous Iraq occupation would be tantamount to "defeat" and we'd be "running away with our tails between our legs" if the Democrats get their way.

When the bombs start falling in Iran, Bush and the Republicans are going to say its because Iran was killing our troops in Iraq. They will present "evidence" to prove this, and because the purported "evidence" will be coming from military sources, anyone questioning the validity of it will be acccused of "slandering our troops," (and lots of open-minded "conservatives" will be calling for arresting and executing the "traitors' who do question it). the Democrats will say their hands were tied, and could not stop it from happening.

Gas prices will go through the roof, the American economy will go into reverse, and the US dollar will be rendered completely worthless by the inflationary flood of money that foreign debt-holders will be dumping back into our economy when the OPEC nations start trading exclusively in Euro's and Yen.

Things will get so bad here that the UN will be invited by Bush to help "keep the peace" (with the help of Blackwater), and the IMF/World Bank will offer to intervene with one of their [in]famous "austerity programs."

A new currency will be introduced here, and simultaneuously in Mexico and Canada (this will be especially easy since now the Dollar has been systematically destroyed and is almost exactly even with the Canadian dollar for the first time in decades -- coincidence I'm sure). The Federal Reserve Bank will be merged with the Canadian and Mexican central banks (this has already been happening piecemeal behind the scenes, as our "regulatory bodies" have also been "harmonizing" as per the SPP agreement).

the Council on Foreign Relations will cheer as their "plan for the world" (as David Rockefeller put it) will be coming to fruition here in North America, as it already has in Europe over the last few decades.

But we won't be cheering when we find out that the new "regional parliament" and "North American" court system will supercede our own Constitution and Supreme Court.

I would say you can come back to this article, to this comment, and marvel about how amazingly accurate this comment turned out to be; but I'm not so sure that we'll have free access to the internet at that point, so...

Ah, but Dan, shouldn't one clean up their own mess? This "war" has been Bush's baby from before he took office, seems to me like he needs to wrap it up before he leaves. No one likes to enter a new "home" with do-do on the carpet!

Genine ... Call it a mess ... necessary or not, but it still pales to Vietnam. Remember that mess made by Kennedy and made into a disaster by Johnson and cleaned up by -- of all people -- Nixon?

Whoever wins in 2008 will be dealing with this and will find it's not as simple as a lot of people make it appear.