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by Pam Johnston
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February 8, 2007

Gather Points: What do they mean to you?

October 17, 2007 12:46 PM EDT (Updated: October 17, 2007 12:48 PM EDT)
views: 760 | comments: 244

Earlier this month I wrote a TODAY article aimed at “demystifying” the Gather Points program. Turns out, lots of Gatherers have questions about points, and we were happy to answer! Click here to read that article and the detailed comment thread.

That conversation got me thinking… do most Gather members like the points or hate them? What could (or should) Gather do to make Gather Points more fun and relevant to you? Should we keep Gather Points or just get rid of them entirely?

We're looking for your feedback here.

Now it’s your turn to sound-off about Gather Points!

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Comments: 244

Μόףףý ● ķ ~ Oct 17, 2007, 12:49pm EDT
I like them. And I think the only folks who honestly don't like them are the non U.S. residents on Gather who can't redeem them.
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Μόףףý ● ķ ~ Oct 17, 2007, 12:50pm EDT
Please don't get rid of them btw.
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Sophie S. Oct 17, 2007, 12:53pm EDT
Ack, now that I finally start earning some there is talk about getting rid of them.

For me the points mean that I am being read by people. After I post something I notice my points go up a lot, check my stuff and there are oodles of comments. So, yes, I like points.
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carmel m. Oct 17, 2007, 12:53pm EDT
I like them as well! They are not the only reason I'm on gather but they certainly help.
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Rob Appell Oct 17, 2007, 12:54pm EDT
Don't get rid of the Points Program...until I at least get my check!
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ADD MY NEW ACCOUNT:graceless22.gather.com P. Oct 17, 2007, 12:54pm EDT
Yes I agree with Moggy....I like the Gather points; it rewards you for your good job, wether or not you can redeem them. I live in the U.S & I still haven't used any of my points yet.
I like them! I say keep 'em!! =]
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J F. Oct 17, 2007, 12:59pm EDT
Point are good.
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J F. Oct 17, 2007, 1:00pm EDT
I mean "points" are good. Sorry about that. :)
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The Red Headed Witch of Gather G. Oct 17, 2007, 1:01pm EDT
Gather would be just like any other blogging community if it weren't for the points. So I think you should keep them.

It seems like a big part of Gather's mission is to share their revenue....how can you do that if you get rid of the points?
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Gorgeous Gabby, a Gather Geeky Gal, and The Giz Oct 17, 2007, 1:05pm EDT
Keep them. That's my vote. If you get rid of the points now then I will never get my cruise. Would you deny me my cruise? Would you really? Sigh!
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 17, 2007, 1:06pm EDT
I like the points but I probably wouldn't leave if they went away. I've met a lot of people here that I like.

I read the other article and its comments. I'm confused as to why the "Name a Word Starting with..." games aren't considered spam. There's no requirement that each word be unique in the list. In an S game you could post "spam" until your index finger fell off. Out of perversity I occasionally post words that don't start with the letter. There's absolutely no challenge for people who can read.
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Deb J. Oct 17, 2007, 1:07pm EDT
Keep the points!! It makes Gather unique, for one thing!
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Erin P. Oct 17, 2007, 1:07pm EDT
I love the points. When I see my points jump, I now I'm doing better at contributing to the community. I also can't wait to earn my first gift card. I originally joined because of the program, its uniqueness, and the opportunity to write AND get something back for doing so.
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Shannon S. Oct 17, 2007, 1:10pm EDT
Keep the points!
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Katie Scarlett (Site Bouncer Wanna Be) O. Oct 17, 2007, 1:10pm EDT
The points are wonderful. And quite frankly, they are a salve for the pain that the trolls and drive-byers cause. Keep them coming.
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Tina (a slightly smaller Spanky) B. Oct 17, 2007, 1:17pm EDT
I just joined, so my points are nil at this moment, but it's one of the reasons I joined! Don't get rid of them.
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Lune Wolfsong Oct 17, 2007, 1:18pm EDT
I have to agree with Katie. It's much easier to shrug off a troll and a db when you know you get "points" for their presence whether they loved or hated you and what you had to say.

I agree with Erin as well, they tell me I'm doing well keeping people interested and being active as a reader/viewer.

I love the points. They were what drew me here to pick my writing back up again rather than some other community. If you didn't have them I might still write here because I value my connections, but it wouldn't be so much. I'd be spending that time on some other paid to write site. Please keep them.

What I'd like to see changed, if you change anything, is to allow those who can't currently do anything with their points a way to do so. That's all.
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Tory H. Oct 17, 2007, 1:19pm EDT
Keep the points!

They add a unique aspect to Gather. And, of course, it's really nice to be rewarded for sharing and commenting and all of that! I've met great people here, but I'll admit that it also makes me really happy to get my gift cards in the mail!
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Ashley B. Oct 17, 2007, 1:21pm EDT
Keep the points. It reminds me how much of a contribution I make. I love the points!!!
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☃ Aunt Shanny Oct 17, 2007, 1:22pm EDT
Keep the points!
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Ashley B. Oct 17, 2007, 1:22pm EDT
I also mean to say that this is what made me start writing again. Otherwise a lot things would never be written.
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Jill~Sexy Back~ V. Oct 17, 2007, 1:22pm EDT
I love the points. I think the points are what make this community unique. Otherwise we could all just spend our time elsewhere and it wouldn't be half as fun. Please keep the points.
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April H. Oct 17, 2007, 1:23pm EDT
KEPP THE POINTS I love them, this is one of the many reasons I stay. I was drawn here by a contest, when I discovered points I was very impressedthat you share your revenue with your readers. Please do not change things. Points are good.
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Christopher B. Oct 17, 2007, 1:26pm EDT
I would say keep the points. I think we need to find a way for non-US gather members to somehow benefit from those points, without getting afowl of the law. Points have an interesting effect. I could just post on Gather, but instead I think of how I can post so that it can get read and get good responses to. In that sense, the points give me a goal to boast my quality of postings (not just quantity) and to the extent that others may do likewise we all benefit.
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Desire Hendricks Oct 17, 2007, 1:27pm EDT
I like the points program. I joined Gather to be part of a writing community, and the points are an added incentive to keep writing. I'm trying to get my freelancing career to grow, and Gather helps me practice, stay informed, and keep writing and publishing in the forefront of my mind.
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wiaka's just ... curious Oct 17, 2007, 1:30pm EDT
I believe the point motivate people to read and connect. The only thing I would like to see is more variety of choices for the points.

When I recieved my Borders card it says I can not order used items and I can only use one GC per on-line transaction. There shouldn't be any stipulations on the use of the cards. If I were to purchase a card for someone they should have the option of buying what they want and be able to use as many cards as they need to finish their transaction.

I love the points and I love the people at Gather it has changed my life in many ways.

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Stephen H. Oct 17, 2007, 1:30pm EDT
The point is, we love you, we love Gather, and we love the points too! "I scream, you scream, we all scream for "points" cream!" Is that a flavor ha ha? Thanks, STephen
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wiaka's just ... curious Oct 17, 2007, 1:33pm EDT
I totally agree with Christopher; gather should find a way to reward non-US members.

I have met many non US mambers and their contributions are are valuable and should be rewarded.

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wiaka's just ... curious Oct 17, 2007, 1:35pm EDT
We don't have a Borders near us, on a Barnes & Noble, could gather maybe get Barnes & Noble cards?

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Kay M. Oct 17, 2007, 1:39pm EDT
Keep them!!!!
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Pam Johnston Oct 17, 2007, 1:40pm EDT
HI Everyone,
Thanks for the great feedback... I think I need to clarify.
Gather is NOT on the brink of getting rid of points.
We simply want to know if they are meaningful to you... if so, why... or why not.

Also, what could -or should- Gather do to make the Points program more engaging?

Thanks everyone... keep up the great conversation!
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Rita j. Oct 17, 2007, 1:46pm EDT
love the points please don't take them away
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Nana to Seven Cutiepies Oct 17, 2007, 1:57pm EDT
The points are wonderful Pam, icing on the cake so to speak. They are meaningful, even if the meaning is different things to each person. I for one would like to see a few more choices in the Gift Card;, Target, Amazon, or Walmart would be nice choices.
The special promotions that reward bonus points are always good also and get us to think and publish more.
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Tiffany G. Oct 17, 2007, 1:58pm EDT
I think the points should stay! I enjoy gather not just for points but I make effort to do more to get points! They have helped my family quite a bit!
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Donald M. Oct 17, 2007, 1:59pm EDT
Admit it or not, all of us like the points and rewards. By reaching out and making new friends, we have earned points. Most of us would probably still be on sights like my space, otherwise. None of us actually got up in the morning, looking foreward to the other sites. We just did it to stay in casual contact. We actually enjoy getting up and talking to our newly made friends on gather. We wouldn't have met them otherwise. Some we have gotten their regular email address's, phone numbers, and will continue to talk to them one way or the other. But if the ones who invited us, hadn't told us about the points system and rewards, we would just have deleted it and never knew how much fun gather could be. Keep the points. Keep us. Most of us are gatherholics now.
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Tiffany G. Oct 17, 2007, 2:00pm EDT
I agree with Nana, Walmart or Target cards would be great!
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Victoria H. Oct 17, 2007, 2:01pm EDT
I agree with exactly what Nana said above me.

Keep the points! I like them!
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Debby D. Oct 17, 2007, 2:04pm EDT
The points are great! I like watching them increase as I interact with others on Gather. It is the rating system that needs to be changed or removed.
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queen.susan . Oct 17, 2007, 2:04pm EDT
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
KEEP THE POINTS!!!
And continue to let us redeem them for gift cards
or to use the cash option.....
For some of us, like myself, it's a way that we're
able to supplement our family's income and get
from one week to the next.
PLEASE KEEP THE POINTS AND THE REWARDS AND CASH OPTIONS!!
I love everything there is to do on Gather.
I love publishing content and sharing my thoughts and comments
on other people's content, and getting points that we can
change into rewards and cash makes Gather
not only "different" from other online communities,
but it also makes Gather a site that I appreciate
and love being on.
KEEP THE POINTS!
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queen.susan . Oct 17, 2007, 2:06pm EDT
I agree with getting rid of the "ratings" as they seem to
not have a real purpose anyway and the comments
that are left already, in a sense, are rating the content.
But the points should definetly be kept!!!
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Princess Spanky Pants ~ The Real, Original, Heather T Oct 17, 2007, 2:10pm EDT
I enjoy earning points here, because it gives me rewards I wouldn't otherwise have. I don't like all the squabbling over them, though.

I would enjoy some new ways to spend them- maybe a coffee shop, iTunes, maybe netflix (that would ROCK), stuff like that. I know a LOT of people who would love places like Wal-mart, Best Buy, or Game Stop, too.

I wouldn't say no to Target or Walmart, but I AM happy with the choices. :)
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Ron B. Oct 17, 2007, 2:16pm EDT
I've never redeemed any points and honestly don't know how. However, the number quickly lets me know whether something I've posted has been read or not.
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Oct 17, 2007, 2:16pm EDT
I would not leave if the points were eliminated but it is a nice option for people like me who are home a lot and enjoy all of the benefits of the online community - acceptance, readership, friendship, windows on the world outside of other people's lives.
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Janna R. Oct 17, 2007, 2:19pm EDT
I don't care about the points. I rarely produce content and have few connections, by choice. I am here primarily to read interesting content and to read and sometimes participate in discussions. I think the points have encouraged many, many members to post useless content purely to get points. The point-driven crap has eclipsed quality content. In over two years here, I have not invited anyone else to join. Now I'd be very hesitant to do so. I can't imagine what they'd think, while checking out the place, if they checked out the Recent Articles list or the Most Discussed (Disgust) list, which currently consists of the following:

â—ˆ RANDEE'S AFTERNOON LIST IT GAME! â—ˆ

â—ˆ RANDEE'S EVENING LIST IT GAME! â—ˆ

Things in your house or apartment - name them.

good evening Gather

good evening gather #2

Think of a word with three letters~

MYSTERY CELEBRITY CHALLENGE N.114

Φ GAMES RANDEE LIKES TO PLAY!!! Φ

It has an "h" - word game

"Now We Are Three Strong!~"

Game...name all the things that you love!

** GAME ** Name Any Phrase, Title or Word Containing the Word 'Time'

Freebies for today

Make up a word - funny game

A word from reciprocation - Game

Game...how many places can you hide money?

Word from statesmanship - Game

** GAME ** Name a Word or Phrase a Weather Forecaster Might Use

MY PROFILE IN DEPTH--PERHAPS YOU WANT TO JOIN THIS CONVERSATION

Some clean jokes for a pick-me-up

Envy

Bad Water (a workshop poem)

Do you collect something?

More Fall Photos from the Pocono Mountains (#2)

Empty Palette...!!! Envy....


With very few exceptions, it's hardly the stuff that "...a highly educated, engaged, and informed adult membership" would produce; it's "content" produced for points.

The quandary is how to keep membership *and* quality up. I'm sure many members would leave if the points decreased, which wouldn't be good for the bottom line. On the other hand, if Gather wants to market itself as a place where having "sophisticated and interactive dialogue with a highly desirable demographic" occurs, those very people will be (are) turned off by idiotic point-generating "games" in which allegedly highly educated, sophisticated people think it's fun to list words beginning with the letter 's'. One would think that such highly educated and sophisticated people had dictionaries or were at least able to access one online, but apparently not.

There was one point here that some of the stuff was of such high-quality that I would've paid you to be a member. There are still spots of brilliance and quality content but it has been largely eclipsed by the dumbing down of Gather and I'm afraid that the points have a lot to do with it. If I was new to the place, I don't know that I'd make the effort to search it (quality content and connections) out.

Thanks for asking.
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Christine Zibas Oct 17, 2007, 2:20pm EDT
Without the points, I wouldn't have purchased many of the books I see on Gather. I (mostly) get Borders cards, with the occasional Home Depot. I'd love Target or Amazon, but am happy with the selection.

I personally have noticed that the points are really slow in coming these days. I assume that Gather must have tightened up how freely they are giving them away. It's a little discouraging, even just a small decline.
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Jennine D. Oct 17, 2007, 2:23pm EDT
keep the points please, I use them and need them. No points I am not staying I am working hard to earn them for Home Depot cards to help my family. I can write other places than here. What is the point if you get nothing. I could go to Mylot, Xomba and Yuwie and other places to write now. I would miss my Gather friends though. But some of them are at the other places mentioned. Gather is unique, keep the points and Give them to our oversea friends too. What ever can you NOT do this?
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Stacey "Yeah, I Said It" H. Oct 17, 2007, 2:25pm EDT
I'm for keeping the points, but I'd stay if they weren't here.

I would like to see other vendors, though. Love Uncommon Goods and Home Depot, please don't change that! Perhaps a Visa card where I can spend it where I'd like...

What I'd really like to see is a reorganization of the site where we can all reside happily. A division for the writers and poets, one for social networking and one for games, freebies, etc., we all bring something to the table in our own way. The points have been problematic in the past, but Gather would need this tool to attract and retain members, you'd kill the site. Gather has grown into something that I don't think the creators envisioned or anticipated.
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Stacey "Yeah, I Said It" H. Oct 17, 2007, 2:27pm EDT
Oh yeah, let's make some sort of compensation available to our foreign counterparts, that does suck...
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Elsie Duggan Oct 17, 2007, 2:34pm EDT
I like the points, and have taken one Home Depot card, but I am wishing you would put up a card for like Olive Garden or Red Lobster or another national chain so that we could get a dinner out or something like that or Amazon.com where I shop a lot, I think a lot of people here really need those points, while they are building or fixing homes, or for kids books, and I think they are a lot of incentive for people to stay. I enjoy Gather very much, quite apparent isn't it? I with everyone else here.
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Debby D. Oct 17, 2007, 2:36pm EDT
I don't think it was necessary to name names and post titles to get the point across that you are not happy with that type of content. Aren't you just targeting certain members who have a right to publish this sort of thing, rather than just admit you don't find any value in the CONTENT posted my more than those you named?

Maybe you would have done better, Janna by pointing us to the intelligent articles you participate in. I haven't seen it. The only "discussions" I've seen you comment on are mostly articles complaining about Gather or it's members.
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 17, 2007, 2:38pm EDT
Stacey, the partition idea is a good idea that a lot of people have proposed. It seems like it slips off the radar very quickly every time someone suggests it.

Remember, folks. At any given time there's a finite number of points available for distribution. You can draw your own conclusions.
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j - Frugal Mom - r. Oct 17, 2007, 2:43pm EDT
Pam, I am so happy to see that you are not getting rid of the points. I love Gather, I love the Gather community and I love the points. I also love that I can choose between the cash option and the gift cards. So far I am sticking with the gift cards though, as it helps ensure that they are used for what I intend to use them for.

As a stay-at-home mom on a very tight budget the Gather points really helps me do something special that I wouldn't otherwise be able to do. For my gather points I have made a wonderful vegetable garden, and every time I look at my plants I think of Gather and all my friends and connections, who helped me make it a reality. Last week I was able to get my husband a birthday present, without using the money he earns. I know it is silly, but being able to buy him a hammer drill from Home Depot with the points I earned here at Gather, it really made it so much more special. In a few weeks, we will be having a bbq party, when my brothers and their family flies in from Europe, and the meat will be from Omaha Steaks thanks to Gather. I could go on and go on but the point I am trying to make is that the Gather points really makes a difference in my and my family's life.

If I were to suggest something to make them even greater, it would be to give us more options for redemption. I like the idea of Target and Walmart cards, and Amazon certificates would be great as well. Of course the different points promotion are great ways of making us love our Gather points even more, but even if they stay at the same rate as they do now, I still love them. The Gather points really makes Gather unique, and it just adds to all the wonders of this amazing community.

Pam, thank you so much for asking us and thank you for posting your article to

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Kim ohhh I wish.... Oct 17, 2007, 2:51pm EDT
What I think is this.. yes... the points are nice, because frankly, we all like recieving free things, but the people who mainly have problems with it are the ones who can't redeem them. I have made some wonderful friends on here and gather has been here for me in some hard times (wether ya'll know it or not).... so.. to re-cap... keep the points :-)
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Lynn R. Oct 17, 2007, 2:55pm EDT
I truly believe if you get rid of the points you'll lose a lot of people. I love Gather. I'm here for the fun, the connections, and of course the points. It's what brought me here in the first place and certainly has been an incentive to stay.

One thing I think you should change is trying to figure out how to let people outside the US cash in their points. Whether it's a cash option or whatever. It isn't fair to them to accumulate points and not get anything for or from them.

So, I guess my vote is, KEEP THE POINTS but figure out a way to make it work for everyone.
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Laura C. Oct 17, 2007, 2:56pm EDT
Like many others, I think that the points make gather a unique community. They're a fun bonus! Don't take them away.
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Janna R. Oct 17, 2007, 2:59pm EDT
Debby D. wrote: I don't think it was necessary to name names and post titles to get the point across that you are not happy with that type of content. Aren't you just targeting certain members who have a right to publish this sort of thing, rather than just admit you don't find any value in the CONTENT posted my more than those you named?

Perhaps not, but it certainly was effective at illustrating my point. Pam asked for my opinion and I gave it. As far as I know, that is still somewhat allowed and encouraged here. I didn't name names, and know little to nothing about the majority of the authors of that content. The titles speak for themselves.

Maybe you would have done better, Janna by pointing us to the intelligent articles you participate in. I haven't seen it. The only "discussions" I've seen you comment on are mostly articles complaining about Gather or it's members.

As I've said many times (including my above comment), I read far, far more than I participate in. I probably read here for three months before I commented, and it was close to 2 years before I published an article. Perhaps someday I will create an article that has links to the type of content I enjoy(ed), or what's left of it. Until then, find it yourself.
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Nancy S. Oct 17, 2007, 3:01pm EDT
The points brought me in but the friends keep me here. Don't want to do without either of them.
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Debby D. Oct 17, 2007, 3:04pm EDT
Φ GAMES RANDEE LIKES TO PLAY!!! Φ


I believe this is naming names. That person has commented on my article, so I do know it is a member here.

While it may be effective in getting your point across, I still think it was unnecessary to use that method. Actually, it appeared to me that you were taking cheap shots at certain members, pointing them out by title and name.
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Elizabeth "I'm Pro-Accordion and I Vote!" B. Oct 17, 2007, 3:05pm EDT
It would be nice if there was a mechanism for donating or pooling points (other than to the few charities already offered). I would prefer to donate my points to needy members or pool them for causes.
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Pam H. Oct 17, 2007, 3:09pm EDT
Points are good. It is, to me, like a reward program. I myself, have met alot of wonderful people here on Gather, read alot of interesting articles and seen alot of pics of places I for one would never see otherwise.

I also feel it keeps people coming back to 'g'ather, I like to know my input counts for something. Please don't do away with the points system.
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Kris M. Oct 17, 2007, 3:09pm EDT
I liked them much better when it was easier to accumulate them. At the new and much slower rate, I hardly have the patience to wait 'til I can redeem them for a higher GC. Which I realize is probably the point.
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Bonnie C. Oct 17, 2007, 3:12pm EDT
I like the points as well it is more like an incentive for me to write and it has really helped me in the past with birthdays and christmas. I dont like how the points are allocated because it seems the people making the most points are the ones who post meaningless things such as email that we have already recieved. I think there should be guidelines that will allow us all to enjoy the network and benefit on our creativity and not by copy and paste.
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Cindy F. Oct 17, 2007, 3:15pm EDT
Keep em!!!
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Oct 17, 2007, 3:17pm EDT
Keep the points...
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Kris M. Oct 17, 2007, 3:21pm EDT
Nippy made an excellent point. Having a "Games" and "Other" division here is an idea that's been proposed and embraced by many, but like proposed improvements to the terminally ill flag system, it's never been addressed or implemented. It seems that this would serve the Gather community much better than other recent changes.
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Janna R. Oct 17, 2007, 3:32pm EDT
Debby D. wrote: Φ GAMES RANDEE LIKES TO PLAY!!! Φ

I believe this is naming names. That person has commented on my article, so I do know it is a member here.


It was part of the title. I simply copied the title. If that's offensive to someone, I'll X it out next time.

While it may be effective in getting your point across, I still think it was unnecessary to use that method. Actually, it appeared to me that you were taking cheap shots at certain members, pointing them out by title and name.

As I said, I simply listed the titles to illustrate my point, for the feedback Pam requested. I have no clue who most of those members *are*, let alone taking cheap shots at them. If you want to think I had something more nefarious in mind, be my guest. I'm done justifying my comment to Pam to you.
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j - Frugal Mom - r. Oct 17, 2007, 3:37pm EDT
Pam, I forgot to mention that I also think it would be great if the members outside of the U.S. could redeem their points somehow.
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Kris M. Oct 17, 2007, 3:39pm EDT
It also seems like a pointless (no pun intended) diversion that has nothing to do with the article.
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Kris M. Oct 17, 2007, 3:40pm EDT
j r is right. That seems like something that should have been addressed and corrected long before now.
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Lune Wolfsong Oct 17, 2007, 3:42pm EDT
I think the ratings system, as used by most, makes more sense as a "thumbs up" & "thumbs down" system instead.
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Lisa D. Oct 17, 2007, 3:42pm EDT
"Φ GAMES RANDEE LIKES TO PLAY!!! Φ


I believe this is naming names. That person has commented on my article, so I do know it is a member here.

While it may be effective in getting your point across, I still think it was unnecessary to use that method. Actually, it appeared to me that you were taking cheap shots at certain members, pointing them out by title and name. "


Randee's name was "used" only because it was in the title of his game and he put it there. The article was then listed in a compilation of examples of idiotic articles posted for nothing more than points.

If someone doesn't want their name associated with idiotic content, the best way to guard against that would probably be for them not to attach it to such material.
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Lisa D. Oct 17, 2007, 3:47pm EDT
I think that points ought to be awarded based on quality, not quantity and games and other inane material should be sectioned off and awarded points in a manner that is more in line with what it deserves. Sectioning it off will also cut down on the junk's abilities to push articles of substance out of view and readership.

The gamers won't go away if you section it off- they are hooked on it. This way, their never ending points quest won't get in the way of others and they can post away without anyone bothering them as well.
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Bridget ♥ Oct 17, 2007, 4:06pm EDT
I LOVE the points here! It makes gather fun and unique!
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Taylor ~hopes no one forgets her!~ Blue Oct 17, 2007, 4:10pm EDT
I love the points....don't get rid of them!
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Mother Toad (Gail, Love the Spring, season and step Oct 17, 2007, 4:26pm EDT
Let's face it, you can post and comment on a lot of sites. Points give you a reason to use Gather.
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Midnite Writer -- Kim Oct 17, 2007, 4:42pm EDT
Points need to stay!!! Gives everyone an incentive to write and take more photos! :)
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Travis B. Oct 17, 2007, 4:44pm EDT
"Gives everyone an incentive to write"

must resist...............
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Lori Cee Oct 17, 2007, 4:45pm EDT
i like the points. they dont mean much to me personally. but i like the way they send other members into a frenzy.
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wiaka's just ... curious Oct 17, 2007, 4:47pm EDT
It is really too bad that this couldn't stay peaceful. I understand what both sides are saying. However that is why we can pick and choose the groups or connections we want.

All too often people get in a huff about things that should be ignored; it's much nicer then tarnishing the article that some one else writes. But Jana you are right Pam did ask for opinions and in giving our opinions sometimes we open ourselves up to scrutiny.

One thing I can say is Gather recognizes "FREE SPEECH" and all of us have passed this on. We can make a point without directly naming groups of any one kind and that is the point I believe Debby is making.

Blessings
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Wilma M. Oct 17, 2007, 4:48pm EDT
The points ARE meaningful to me. I have met some neat people here and have gotten rewarded for the time I spend on Gather. I've gotten several Borders' cards and appreciate that Gather provided them for me.

My 2 big wishes are: 1) that EVERYONE who participates could actually utilize the points they have earned and

2) that there were a few more options for gift cards: Target, Walmart, Sears, something along that line.
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Wilma M. Oct 17, 2007, 4:51pm EDT
Actually, one of the titles Janna listed (Envy) was the suggestion for some poems and I have seen several good ones written based on that theme.
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Lisa D. Oct 17, 2007, 5:23pm EDT
"One thing I can say is Gather recognizes "FREE SPEECH" and all of us have passed this on."

Well, perhaps they did before they installed the comment deletion button. Now it's "free speech as long as I like what you are saying."
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Lune Wolfsong Oct 17, 2007, 5:40pm EDT
Fact is, though, almost no one actually uses the comment deletion button the way those who freaked out about "the end of free speech on gather" claimed. At least, not among my connections. Can't speak for yours, I don't know them. *shrug*
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Janna R. Oct 17, 2007, 5:48pm EDT
Wilma M. wrote: Actually, one of the titles Janna listed (Envy) was the suggestion for some poems and I have seen several good ones written based on that theme.

I was careful to say that there were a few exceptions in the "Most Discussed" title list I quoted. I am aware that there are always a few articles in there that are, in my opinion, worthwhile and representative of the "highly educated, engaged, and informed adult membership" that Gather claims to have in its marketing and promotional material.
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Debby D. Oct 17, 2007, 5:55pm EDT
Lisa, do you get deleted often?

On the recent articles list, out of 25 there were no games listed.
On the featured articles list out of 25 there were no games listed.
On the highest rated articles list out of 25 there was one game listed.
On the most read list there were no games listed.
On the most discussed list there were 20 games listed.

So how is it that games push articles of substance out of view, when they are plainly in view and readership? I'd like to know where some of you get your strange ideas that quality writing is practically non existent on Gather. I'm seeing plenty of it without a problem.
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Marge H. Oct 17, 2007, 5:55pm EDT
Keep the points. Find a way to make them available for everyone to be able to cash them in not just those of us in the US. Maybe that could be done by adding companies like Wal-mart and Target who have websites. Make it so that they can be redeemable on websites. I would love to cash mine in with Borders, but there is no Borders anywhere near me.
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Amanda "middle of nowhere" C. Oct 17, 2007, 6:21pm EDT
I like the points. I think gather should also use them as incentives. If you host a chat, for example, throw in an extra 100 points. If an article makes the front page, throw in an extra 10.
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paul w. Oct 17, 2007, 6:23pm EDT
I didn't come here for the points, and I wouldn't walk out the door if they were gone. But, I do you think you'd find a lot of us drifting away or not spending as much time here. (I likely would leave if this place became a lot less happening, though.)
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Debby D. Oct 17, 2007, 6:25pm EDT
If you don't like games, why do you play them?
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Jennifer N. Oct 17, 2007, 6:29pm EDT
I enjoy the points system, but it's not my sole reason for staying here. From my experience this is one of the best community sites I've ever seen. That's what keeps me coming back again and again. The points are just the proverbial cherry on top.

I will be honest here, though, I do agree that many would probably spend less time here if the points were removed. Having the points system in place does make us feel like our time here isn't being "wasted" and I'd agree with that. If the points were removed I'd have to spend less time here to make an income elsewhere that I'd be lacking from my Gathering time.
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Chick J. Oct 17, 2007, 6:33pm EDT
Points are fun. And games usually say they are games. So I can ignore them or not. Not much of a game player but love the articles on politics, health and real like stories.
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J. P. Oct 17, 2007, 6:38pm EDT
I really like Gather's points, it means a lot to me that my activities in Gather get rewarded.

I like the idea of more choices in gift cards and international donations.
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Jerri H. Oct 17, 2007, 6:39pm EDT
They show me that I am doing something....a tangible account....*giggle* too bad on the turn of discussion, sorry.
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Jimmie (Hey! Let's Gather!) Harris Oct 17, 2007, 6:41pm EDT
I like the points, but it's all I can do to get 1600/month... I can only assume that for those who reach the 3K+/month level this is the only life they have! LOL

My problem with points is one I have mentioned numerous times, and to which Gather.com's answer is always the same: "we have no plans to expand the cards offered; if you don't like the choices, get to 3K and take the cash option."

My issue is: of the few stores that offer gift cards through Gather.com, only one is in my area: Home Depot (and they just located here this year!). We have no borders, or any of the others. I have been told by Gather that I can use a Border's card to order online, but we have a no-shipping-charges-ever deal with Amazon, and we can't afford to NOT order from them.

Has Gather made ANY effort to get Kohls, Target, K-Mart, Sears, JCPenny, or other nationwide retailers to become part of the Gather family? Amazon, for instance, should be offering gift cards here, since they were co-sponsors of the "shorts" contests.

Any thoughts on this?
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Julia *loves my baby girl chloe* M. Oct 17, 2007, 6:42pm EDT
I love the points and the rewards its a good system!! keep it going it means meeting new people and getting our voices heard and those points are just a small reward for everything we write its a good thing dont get rid of it!
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Au F. Oct 17, 2007, 6:45pm EDT
i say they should be kept
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Travis B. Oct 17, 2007, 6:48pm EDT
It seems to me that Member Services would do well to ask better questions than this. Does it really make a difference what points mean? Everyone knows what they are and how to get them. It would serve the entire Gather community better to ask how the point system can be made to be fair and equitable for those that want to play games and those that want to use gather as a writing resource. By all appearances, the current system strongly favors and facilitates the former. I have no illusions that this will ever change, but it would be nice if some of the suggestions that have been presented were taken to heart by the Gather staff.
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