If you disliked Hillary, you were a misogynist.
If you dislike Obama, you are a racist.
If you dislike McCain, ??? Do you have Gerontophobia- Fear of old people?
Ridiculous? Not so ridiculous. As I have seen so many times, if you disike Obama it's because you or I am a racist. Not so. I'd vote for Colin Powell, Condi Rice, or any other person of any color white, black, yellow . . . need I go on. It's Obama who scares me. I found this website and it is telling. If you can read this site and watch Obama with his own mouth, or his wife's own mouth, or his infamous Reverends own mouth, then do so. But please check this out.
He is so wrong for this country on so many levels, and his own velvet tongue da*ns him. His wife sweet mouth da*ns him. His Reverend wicked tongue da*ns Obama and our country. With their own words not mine.
If you disagree, it is your right to do. If he wins, who do we go to when our country is "CHANGED?"
I will work vehemently to elect John McCain. What will you do? If you don't vote for McCain you are guilty of gerontophobia! I'm serious, maybe!
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I just went and got my MCain sticker today.
But (and here comes the sparks) I would never vote for Obama.
I vote that after the election the Secret Service starts practicing 'ducking' drills, that's my real vote right now.
I just don't trust the guy.
I didn't vote for John Kerry and no one called me ugly names. But if I oppose Obama, I am called a balnkety blank and told I belong iun a sewer.
This just shows the level of maturity of Obama's backers.
My vote still goes for RON PAUL or whoever he endorces. I WILL NOT WASTE MY VOTE THIS TIME! No more "lesser of two evils" for me. I will vote for the best man or woman for the job.
I have always been interested in politics, but this time, it's out of desperation. Obama has too little experience, and too much smelly baggage.
TO me, this takes nerve.. I would never ever dream of emailing or pinging someone and telling them if you continue to be friends with so and so. we will come to your articles and tell you about her, or I will make comments about you....One claims that he is getting more and more people to vote for Obama because of her writing articles against Obama.. Yea right, in his dreams... It is because of the arrogants of some of these people that are turning more and more people away from the Obama aggressiveness.
My desire to avoid John McCain is persistent but not irrational.
It's called DUMBASSAPHOBIA or WARMONGERAPHOBIA
or perhaps the fear of the same old crap aphobia
FOURMOREYEARSOFFAILEDPOLICIES-APHOBIA
www.homelandstupidity.us
- Yes, this is all ridiculous -
My entire post-graduate, adult life has been wrapped up in the Bush Adminstration. John McCain is an extension of that administration, in my opinion. No thanks.
OBAMA 08!
I think that says it all.
I wouldn't have voted for the inexplicable Ron Paul, the styrofoam Mitt Romney, the horny Rudy Guliani, the actor Fred Thompson or the bass player Mike Huckabee either.
The country deserves better than John McCain, and the continuation of all the failed Bush policies.
My, my wasn't this the most civil conversation regarding this presidential election...
I also prefer my President to have two nuts. Which may not be the case in Mr. B. Hussein Obama's case as the Rev. Jackson is hot after his genitals over his stand on faith-based programs.
I'd vote for Paul, but not for Barr.
I couldn't see myself supporting Powell and I know nothing of Rice's social policy. I couldn't guarantee my vote for her either.
George W., Jun 27, 2008, 11:45pm EDT
That is such a pathetic statement that ha nothing to do with the issues and actually say a BILLION words about the class act of the person that wrote it!!!
I am there with Fred and Kay M. in the phobia of BS and thr things that seem to bevery much larger on one side. I wasn't sure who I wa going with and would still say that something radical and TRUE could sway me, but I have not seen anything like that yet. The leaders of the Republican party didn't really want McCain to come out of the primaries as their candidate because thyhave seen ll of his flip-flopping and bush butt kissing over many years. I am not ready for 4 or 8 more years of Bush Lite. I'll bet you one thing if McCain does somehow manage to steal the election lke Bush did two times, he will not be a two term president .
I also see comments on here from a certain "Truth Detector" . All you have to do to see what she is all about is go read her articles and comments to see how many times she couldn't even detect the fact that she wasn't telling the truth aout nything! I don't know about you but at this point in mylife I m pretty sure that I do not want to even come close to believing in things that this lady believes or in the ways she believes in them. But hey don't worry, she's on your side ;-)
C. The T.D
If this is true does that mean that Obama has to believe that half of his own blood is "tainted"? Wow, that's a shame! Or that his mother and one whole side of his extended family is "tainted" and "he learned to hate them"? Wow.... he is the devil!!! NOT
1. he's NOT FOR America
2. he's NOT experienced
3. he's a racist
4. he'll say and do anything, just to get elected. He doesn't put America first, and any POTUS needs to put America first, not themselves.
No, not B. Hussein Obama. Not crazy about McCain either, but he's the lesser of the two weasels.
I am leaning more toward Barr as he seems to have a some understanding of what our situation actually is, and how to deal with them. But being a politician, I don't know how valid that is until in office. But I do not like either of the main two now.
Actually, the Republican party has always thought of McCain as being a RINO and that's why they didn't exactly want him. As far as kissing Bush' butt, I don't think so. It was Rove/Bush who screwed him over years ago by starting a rumor that he had fathered a black child with a prostitute.
Also, I'm sick of this Bush stole the elections twice. I don't think it's possible and the Dems just can't get over the fact that the man won the election. They hate his guts and try to belittle his accomplishments by saying that the only way he won was to cheat and steal the election. BS!
I don't see McCain as a Bush Lite.
Real mature....
You know what I think is so funny... People that make sure they use Obamka's middle name in what is a thinly veiled reference to the fact that they are trying to say he has Muslim heritage and than say something like "He is a racist". Oh they'll say "well that is his name isn't it?" acting all innocent but everyone knows their intent there and so do they. Otherwise what is the point of saying it? Do they say J. Sidney McCain? No, because that wouldn't imply anything.
I am also wondering where the remarks are on McCain rearranging the world's geography so we can secure the Iraq/Pakistan Border. I mean you would think that the same people that called Obama on his mistake of the "57 states" would call McCain on this mistake and the many others that he has made that makes Obama look like he graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law and has a 140 IQ! Oh wait, that's right he did and he does!!
I don't see McCain as a Bush Lite.
Lera (politically incorrect) M., Jul 20, 2008, 2:20pm EDT
You're right Lera, he did win the first one. The vote was 5-4 by the Supreme Court. We won't mention that Gore won the popular vote and also if it was done fair, the Electoral vote. I am not upset about it Lera and have anything at all to get over. I am just speak a FACT! As I pretty much always so!!!!
You're also so right that McCain never kissed Bush's butt. I mean hey voting for 97% of the time right along with what Bush wanted,, nah.... I wouldn't call that butt kissing! That's more like "boot licking"!!!
As for the Child from a black woman deal, wasn't that during the election that McCain lost to Bush? How many times has McCain praised him since then and did you ever see that icon where McCain was hugging his good buddy? Hey I know if someone spread slander about me fathering an illegtimate child whether it was black, yellow, white, or Red I wouldn't ever be giving him a hug and voting right along with him almost 100 % of the time!!
As for "seeing Bush's accomplishments" real quick now... name three that benefitted the majority of the people in this country?
Real mature....
Dan R., Jul 20, 2008, 2:33pm EDT
What??????? See "Gore vs. State of Florida" that will tell you how Bush won. Could you explain the Democrats modifying the electoral vote thing for me? I am not sure that I have all of the details on that one.
I would definitely trust McCain over Obama when it comes to issues like foreign policy, transition out of Iraq (when it's right based on the feedback of the generals and the people who are actually there), drilling domestically for oil to turn the energy problem around until better solutions can be developed, and keeping tax-cuts in place so the economy can be turned back around.
You talk about Obama's "flip-flopping" like it is mutually exclusive to him and never ever done by any other politician. In fact i have seen much less of it from Obama than McCain and if you would like me to do so, I will provide you with the many actual samples that I have posted on other articles for others to see?
I will vote for the person who shows truthful character. I am leaning towards Ralph Nader. I will not vote for any GOP candiate until the lies and slander stop. I want talk about the issues and not mindless petty character assasination.
Maybe there could be better choices than these two.
Unfortunately, while Obama may have a lighter resume, McCain will be the OLDEST President ever.
It isn't really that bad being old if you KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES. McCain doesn't. He doesn't even know how to use the internet. Asks his wife "to Google".
He has had multiple bouts with a life-threatening MELANOMA. Not a small, indifferent cancer.
He has a terrible anger problem. Likely suffers from PTSD after years in captivity as a POW suffering from extended torture.
Has flip-flopped on issues like campaign reform, tax cuts....first against them then for them, and torture....first against it then for it.
Was an adulterer with Cindy McCain while still married to his first wife.
Showed poor judgment and ethics as part of the Keating 5.
same old same old. I really don't like the idea of more Supreme Court Justices like Scalia and Roberts.
Would like to preserve a few of my Civil Rights and Liberties.
I am supporting Obama.
"Understanding the spirit of our institutions to aim at the elevation of men, I am opposed to whatever tends to degrade them." (Abraham Lincoln, May 17, 1859 Letter to Theodore Canisius)
All Americans will be able to make their choice in November. The results will be telling.
That's another reason why I am voting against him. His followers treat him like a high priest and to question his motives is blasphemy.
He has a complete lack of experience in anything that would prepare him to be president of the U.S..
He has changed his mind on issues faster and more often than any other candidate in history.
He has done the "two-step" from liberal left to center at a dizzying pace. In doing so, he has lost many of those that his far left program attracted to him in the beginning.
Could there really be a candidate for this office who doesn't know how many states are in the U.S.? Obama said, "I want to be President of all these 57 states." huh?
He is an eloquent speaker ONLY when he has a prepared speech or a teleprompter in front of him.
Obama calls for bipartisanship, but when he votes, it's most always with his own party.
He promises gold plated health care and a college education for everyone without knowledge of where the money will be coming from for these.
He says he refuses contributions from PACS, but accepts money from state lobbyists.
He will raise taxes, supporting a system that will allow more government intrusion in private lives.
He displays a willingness to "negotiate" with terrorist regimes.
He sends mixed messages on his policy toward Israel.
Obama's Iraq policy will undercut our entire position in the Middle East.
Obama's staff uses McCains divorce from his first wife, Carol, to discredit him, ignoring facts and circumstances. Carol presently displays a sticker on her car encouraging people to vote for her ex husband for President. She was recently quoted as saying, "He's a good guy, we are still good friends, he is the best man for President." We no longer had much in common after six years apart. Carol was dating McCain, interrupted that to marry an Annapolis classmate of his and had two children, Douglas and Andrew - before renewing the old flirtation with McCain, after that divorce. The couple married and McCain adopted Carol's sons. To this day, McCain has a close relationship with ALL his children. Hardly the picture portrayed by some.
You have made a series of generalizations, claims and mis-quotes.
Regarding his experience, let me refer you to a USA Today article:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-16-obama-experience-cover_x.htm
"Obama wouldn't be the youngest presidential nominee or chief executive. William Jennings Bryan was 36 when he first became a Democratic nominee. John F. Kennedy was 43 when he was elected. Theodore Roosevelt was 42 when he was sworn in after the assassination of William McKinley.
Nor would Obama be the least experienced nominee or president. Wendell Wilkie had never been elected to any office before he became the Republican presidential nominee in 1940. Woodrow Wilson had been New Jersey's governor for two years when he was elected in 1912. George W. Bush served six years as Texas governor before being elected president.
Still, some Democrats say they need a more seasoned nominee who's prepared to tackle foreign policy issues such as the war in Iraq and dangerous relationships with Iran and North Korea.
Obama's inexperience is "the big question mark" about his candidacy, says Rep. Beth Arsenault, a Democrat who was just elected to the New Hampshire Legislature.
"It's not a deal-stopper necessarily," she says, "but two years in the Senate? It's not a lot."
The campaign crucible
David Axelrod, Obama's political strategist, says presidential campaigns aren't ultimately about candidates' job histories.
"Campaigns themselves are a gantlet in which you get tested," he says. "People get to see how you handle pressure and how you react to complicated questions. It's an imperfect and sometimes maddening system, but at the end of the day it works, because you have to be tough and smart and skilled to survive that process."
Some legislators who worked with Obama in the Illinois Senate say he proved he can overcome gaps in experience with his ability to quickly grasp complicated issues.
Republican Sen. Kirk Dillard, who took office in 1993, says he gravitated to Obama when the rookie arrived in Springfield in 1997.
"Sen. Obama was someone who I thought — and I was right — could tackle extremely complex things like ethics reform, the death penalty or racial profiling by law enforcement," Dillard says.
Obama was "a full partner" in drafting and passing the state's first major ethics law in 25 years, Dillard says. Obama also helped pass laws requiring that police interrogations and confessions in capital cases be videotaped and creating a state earned-income tax credit.
Such successes are rare, "especially in a rough-and-tumble place driven by seniority like Illinois is," he says.
State Sen. Donne Trotter, a Democrat, says Obama is "a quick read, a quick study."
Obama's tenure as a constitutional lawyer, he says, "prepares him to learn the intricacies and nuances of what the federal government is all about."
Trotter watched the newcomer research a universal health care system, educate other senators and become the architect of the legislation. Obama "is a reader, a learner of different approaches and philosophies," he says. "He has the brainpower to absorb the facts … and make good decisions."
'Managed to get it right on Iraq'
Obama has proved that, Axelrod says, with one decision that sets him apart from other possible Democratic presidential candidates, including Clinton: His opposition from the start to the war in Iraq. "However many gray hairs he has, he managed to get it right on Iraq," Axelrod told Chicago's WTTW-TV last week.
Experience doesn't guarantee success in the White House, historians and political scientists say."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-divorce11-2008jul11,0,6546861.story
"In a written statement, she described McCain as "a good friend for over 30 years." But that friendship was strained in the late 1970s by McCain's decision to divorce his first wife, Carol, who was particularly close to the Reagans, and within weeks marry Cindy Hensley, the young heiress to a lucrative Arizona beer distributorship.
The Reagans rushed to help Carol, finding her a new home in Southern California with the family of Reagan aide Edwin Meese III and a series of political and White House jobs to ease her through that difficult time.
McCain, who is about to become the GOP nominee, has made several statements about how he divorced Carol and married Hensley that conflict with the public record.
In his 2002 memoir, "Worth the Fighting For," McCain wrote that he had separated from Carol before he began dating Hensley.
"I spent as much time with Cindy in Washington and Arizona as our jobs would allow," McCain wrote. "I was separated from Carol, but our divorce would not become final until February of 1980."
An examination of court documents tells a different story. McCain did not sue his wife for divorce until Feb. 19, 1980, and he wrote in his court petition that he and his wife had "cohabited" until Jan. 7 of that year -- or for the first nine months of his relationship with Hensley.
Although McCain suggested in his autobiography that months passed between his divorce and remarriage, the divorce was granted April 2, 1980, and he wed Hensley in a private ceremony five weeks later. McCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.
Until McCain filed for divorce, the Reagans and their inner circle assumed he was happily married, and they were stunned to learn otherwise, according to several close aides.
"Everybody was upset with him," recalled Nancy Reynolds, a top aide to the former president who introduced him to McCain.
By contrast, some of McCain's friends, including the Senate aide who was at the reception where McCain first met Hensley, believed he was separated at that time.
Albert "Pete" Lakeland, the aide who was with McCain at the reception in Hawaii in April 1979, said of the introduction to Hensley: "It was like he was struck by Cupid's arrow. He was just enormously smitten."
As the pair began dating, Lakeland allowed them to spend a weekend together at his summer home in Maryland, he said.
The senator has acknowledged that he behaved badly, and that his swift divorce and remarriage brought a cold shoulder from the Reagans that lasted years.
In a recent interview, McCain said he did not want to revisit the breakup of his marriage. "I have a very good relationship with my first wife," he said. In his autobiography, he wrote: "My marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity. The blame was entirely mine."
Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, said: "Of course we will not comment on the breakup of the senator's first marriage, other than to note that the senator has always taken responsibility for it."
Bush tax cuts, first against them as being for the wealthy, then for them.
Just today he flip-flopped on Affirmative Action---said he would support the initiative in Arizona when in the past he has said he didn't support initiatives on this matter.
Obama's changes pale next to McCain.
Bush did seem to stay constant. Not John McCain.
I commented on an article about why I would not vote for Obama. I did not comment on your comment. Those were my personal reasons. I have done my homework, and research. Even though I disagreed with most everything you said when you posted your reasons, and questioned the validity, I did not find it necessary to insult you, or make accusations. You may be assured that everything I said in my first comment is fact and documented to my satisfaction for the sole purpose of selecting a candidate who, I feel , is the most qualified, in every way, to be our next president.
You say McCains divorce is of no import to you yet you bring it up. Odd. Carol has "forgiven and forgotten" the 28 year-old incident, has a full and happy life, and has moved on. But you can't? You keep dredging it up.
Nancy Reagan and Carol were close, like sisters. Of course she was upset over the break up of the marriage. She, too, has forgiven and moved on. When she endorsed McCain for president, she said, "John McCain has been a good friend for over thirty years. My husband and I first came to know him as a returning Vietnam War POW, and were impressed by the courage he had shown through his terrible ordeal. I believe John’s record and experience have prepared him well to be our next president." Quite a raving review from a former first lady.
Regarding your comment about Obama's time in the Illinois State Senate:
You forgot to mention he had a bonafide "Godfather" there in the form of Illinois State Senate President Emil Jones, Jr "He's been indispensable to Barack's career," said fellow state Sen. Rickey Hendon, a Democrat, he has kept him from being instantly trampled by the front-runners.
State Sen. Donne Trotter, D-Chicago, accuses Jones of a little "bill-jacking" - taking issues that other senators had been working on and giving them to Obama.
Obama had approached Jones with an unexpected proposal: "Use your new clout to back me for U.S. Senate." Emil Jones did, but he was not just a benefactor to Obama, he "helped" others. When Jones married a state employee, she suddenly got a 60 percent raise. His son got a state job that wasn't advertised to the public. A nephew and stepson got computer consulting jobs from a college that received a $4.5 million grant for computing needs. (This story goes on and on, but for the sake of brevity...) But ... thinking... would a man like this do anything untoward for Obama?
The bottom line is that you nor I, alone, will influence how anyone on Gather votes, by what we post here. Our bickering back and forth over personal opinions only reflects badly on us.
All we ask is that you base your opinions on facts. The following is your comment:
"Deep down inside I think he resents this country and I bet you that he never in his life read a book about our nation's economic makeup regarding free trade and capitalism in which the premise wasn't critical of it."
Where is the fact in this statement? It's purely based on some "deep down" feeling that isn't supported by any fact. How does he resent this country? What has he done that would give you that impression? What is your knowledge of what books he has read? What has he said or done that supports your contention that he only listens to anti-free trade propaganda?
My point is simply that the statement was ignorant because it makes no attempt to base opinion on fact. No one suggests that Obama is perfect or that people can't have alternative viewpoints. There are many McCain proponents here on Gather who provide support for their opinions. Any intelligent person understands that alternative viewpoints are part of the fabric of America. It's what America is built on...the right to have and express alternative viewpoints. All legitimate viewpoints are welcome, even if we disagree. If your statement wasn't ignorant than simply provide the factual information you used to derive your opinion.
Thank you for your intelligible and coherent comments.
I bring up McCain's marriage, not because I believe that one's marriage is critical to one's political possibilities. I don't.
It won't really affect whether Senator McCain is an outstanding President or a mediocre one.
But "marriage" per se is critical to the Republican campaign across this nation.
"Defense of Marriage" is a rallying cry of Conservatives nationwide. They are anxious to amend the Constitution itself to defend marriage.
Senator John McCain has NOT done a very good job in this department.
I do not think I will change any conservative to suddenly 'see the light' and come across to the Obama side.
But I will continue to bring this up as long as I continue to read meanspirited lies about Barack Obama including email campaigns that suggest he wouldn't put his hand on the Bible when being sworn in.
That's a lie. That was another politician, Minnesotan Ellison who wouldn't.
The lie that he is a Muslim.
He's not. He's a Christian.
The lie that he wouldn't put his hand over his heart when he recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
Another lie.
They were playing the National Anthem and it isn't 'required' to do so.
The utilization of his middle name as some sort of smear, as in "B. Hussein Obama", implying once again a Muslim religion that ISN'T.
You or I may not agree with the stands and opinions of various politicians.
But it makes me sick to see my fellow Americans sliming Senator Obama who I believe is trying to move our nation forward and by himself break through the greatest "glass ceiling" ever confronted any American.
So remember that when you hear about adultery, which he did do, and the Keating 5, which was a sleazy affair in which he has continued to get a pass.
But I do want to comment on the final thought of your additional comment: "The bottom line is that you nor I, alone, will influence how anyone on Gather votes, by what we post here. Our bickering back and forth over personal opinions only reflects badly on us."
I agree. Or at least somewhat agree. I do think that presenting our opinions here on Gather may have some influence on how others vote, though perhaps the tone of our writings defines whether the direction is toward or away from our desired result. I agree with the reverse idea that honest debate about actual facts is healthy for us all. We need to hear alternative views, and be open to them. However, what I would like to see more of us do is base our opinions on factual information. Too often we find some point (usually either false or severely mischaracterized) that we can use against the candidate we don't want to vote for rather than highlighting the candidate we do want to vote for. We should vote "for a candidate" rather than "against the other candidate." Most of us are guilty of that, sometimes due to our passions for a candidate, and sometimes due to our biases or blatent ignorance and hypocrisy.
Let's all debate honestly. That is what America is all about.
As far as age being an issue, it does concern me that McCain would be the oldest president going into office. He has shown his age at times replying to questions, stammering and making mistakes. Maybe that is the reason for his flip-flops. But to be president requires stamina and quick thinking as well as calmness. McCain is well known for his hair-trigger temper.
Who will I vote for? I cannot vote for Obama, he does not share a lot of my values. Unfortunately, I do not agree with McCain on some issues either.
against B. Hussein Obama.
1. he's NOT FOR America
2. he's NOT experienced
3. he's a racist
4. he'll say and do anything, just to get elected. He doesn't put America first, and any POTUS needs to put America first, not themselves.
I can't believe this - does this person have a brain ??? Anyway, yes I'm for Obama. thank you for asking. Salud
With all due respect and I come from a family of veterans - from way back - I don't think McCain is fit to be president - I'm aware of what he suffered through and all that but I have no respect for his drug addicted wife and truly think about it - is that what we want in the White House? Anyway, I wouldn't vote for him no matter who else was running but I have to say I do like Barack Obama - and have taken the time to study his messages - he's our last chance to be something - let's not blow this - the United States needs to be a great nation once again. Salud
Ricky’s Teaser Tees & Things - Inspirations
I am for the restoration of the Constitution - Obama NOT
I am for freedom - Obama NOT
I am for humble foreign policy - Obama wants more WAR
I am for right to life - Obama NOT
I am for smaller fed. govt. - Obama NOT
I am for private health insurance - Obama NOT
I am for Wall Street and the BIG three to stand on their own - Obama NOT
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