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by Kathryn E.
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January 15, 2006

Christy Crandell Speaks Against Cough Medicine Abuse

August 01, 2007 02:00 AM EDT (Updated: August 01, 2007 02:06 AM EDT)
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If you think that because your child doesn't take street drugs that they don't do drugs at all, think again. If you think you're safe because your bathroom medicine cabinet has over-the-counter cough medicine but isn't locked, think again. If you think your kids are not aware of cough medicine abuse, think again.

These are just three factors that a parent must be aware of when it comes to cough medicine abuse. Christy Crandell, a mom, author and drug-abuse awareness advocate, is with the Five Moms campaign to stop cough medicine abuse. Crandell knows first-hand of the problems that cough medicine abuse can cause.

The Five Moms campaign, launched May 9, is a grass roots campaign to promote awareness of the dangers of cough medicine abuse. (August has been named National Medicine Abuse Awareness Month). The Five Moms campaign is comprised of five moms from across the country - a pediatric nurse practitioner, an accountant, a D.A.R.E. officer, an educator, and an author - who've all come together to raise awareness to stop teens from abusing cough medicines.

The Five Moms are encouraging every parent to visit their web site, click on Tell a Friend and tell five people they know about cough medicine abuse.

Developed by the Consumer Healthcare Products Association (CHPA), which is the trade association that represents the leading makers of OTC cough medicines, Five Moms is an important step to raise awareness and promote prevention of cough medicine abuse. 

Gather also has a group dedicated to this purpose, http://fivemoms.gather.com Click the link HERE to join the Gather group.

 

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Recently, I spoke with Christy Crandell about her experience. 

"I have a son serving a 13-year sentence for crimes committed while high on dextromethorphan and marijuana," Crandell says. "This was a horrible tragedy. I had never heard about this problem before and we thought we were safe," Crandell says.

In a statement from the Five Moms web site, Crandell describes how she got involved with the campaign. She cautions against parents believing that cough medicine abuse won't happen in their family.

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 "I always considered my family to be one thing: normal. We raised our children in Rocklin, California, a close-knit, suburban community. My husband Rick and I had a great relationship with our two sons, Ryan and Justin. As they were growing up, I worked from home as a medical transcriptionist, so I was able to stay closely involved in their lives. I was on their Little League board, ran the snack bar at their games, and volunteered at their school. We were a strong family that shared everything. So when our son Ryan, then 18-years-old, was arrested for armed robbery while high on over-the-counter cough medicine, shocked doesn't even begin to describe how we all felt...

"I had no idea that Ryan was abusing cough medicines to get high. In fact, I had never even imagined that cough medicine abuse was a possibility. Had I been more aware, perhaps I could have prevented Ryan from going down that path. Instead, Ryan, now 22-years-old, is serving a 13-year prison sentence in Folsom State Prison for actions he took while under the influence.

"Ryan's arrest was the most tragic thing that has ever happened to my family. I had put faith in the fact that my children were raised in a normal family and had a good life. I did everything I could as a parent to give them the love and support they needed. The one thing I hadn't done was educate myself on what dangers were out there. Had I known about the pressures my children were facing and had I been more open to the idea that drug abuse can happen to anyone, perhaps I could have helped Ryan steer away from that path."

This is a wake-up call to parents who, all too often, are in denial about the prevalence of dextromethorphan abuse, according to Crandell. The Partnership for a Drug-Free America has collected data that shows 2.4 million young people reported having abused dextromethorphan.  That translates to one in 10 young people.

Also shocking, according to Crandell, is the statistic, which cites that one in four young people personally know someone who has abused cough medicine. (I have spoken with several young people in this age category recently  - and, yes - they do know teens that've abused dextromethorphan.

Dextromethorphan is the active ingredient found in many over-the-counter cough and cold remedies. When used correctly, dextromethorphan-containing products have a 50-year history of being safe and effective. But when taken in extreme excess - sometimes 25-50 times the recommended dose - dextromethorphan can produce dangerous side effects.

The problem with dextromethorphan is that people abuse it in very high doses, often in combination with other substances, such as alcohol or other drugs. 

Crandell says that young people who abuse dextromethorphan often combine it with illicit substances. That is what makes dextromethorphan dangerous and difficult to control. 

Dateline NBC ran a story in 2004, which was recently reprinted on MSNBC Interactive, which told of two Illinois college students in 2003 who had taken numerous drug trips with dextromethorphan by mixing the powdered form with orange juice.

In September 2003, when Jonathan Frary of Peoria, Ill., didn't answer his dorm phone for several days, his father drove to the college to check up on him. The dorm maintenance man let the father into the dorm, and the father found his 22-year-old son lying dead, on the floor. This was the first recorded death in Illinois from dextromethorphan overdose.

The best solution is awareness. Parents, particularly mothers, (but both parents, really), must become actively involved and aware of what their children are doing, according to Crandell.

"The best thing is to educate other parents - if parents know about this type of abuse and talk to their kids about this, then right there - research shows there is a positive effect," Crandell says. 

"Kids whose parents have talked to them about drug and alcohol use are 50 percent less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. That is big right there - and the next step is to be attentive to what is in the medicine cabinet." And it is very important to share that knowledge with other parents, Crandell says - a step, she adds, that will help every parent know they're not alone.

According to Crandell, it is also important to monitor what teens do online. Teens can find information on web sites about where and how to obtain dextromethorphan and how much to take to get high. Web site calculators exist, Crandell says, that tell you how much to take for your body weight. Message boards exist that encourage teens to take dextromethorphan and other substances. With just a few quick clicks, I found some of these message boards myself.

Crandell adds that the Five Moms campaign encourages parents to place the computer in a main room of the house (not in the teen's bedroom or in a room not easily supervised) and to check the child's activity often.

"This is a common sense idea that applies to everything, Crandell says. No matter what age your child is, unlimited access to computers is not a good idea."

 "Mothers, in general, play an important part in the health of their whole family, Crandell says, "but as Moms, we're reaching out to other parents, making sure they are aware that this type of abuse is going on."

After her son was arrested, Crandell quit her job, started a web site and wrote a book, Lost & Found: A Mother and Son Find Victory over Teen Drug Addiction. Crandell  "made it [her] mission to share [her] story."

"I got my education the hard way, and it is my goal to ensure that other parents don't have to learn about cough medicine abuse the way that Rick and I did...I speak across the country to other parents, giving them the tools they need to avoid the tragedy that my family was forced to face.

"It is my hope that my work with the Five Moms campaign will show parents across the country that it's never okay to think "not my kid." I want parents to understand that this type of denial only leads to tragedy, and that cough medicine abuse has real consequences that can truly be life-altering. The greatest tool we, as parents, have to fight drug addiction is education, and I pray that other parents can receive it before learning the hard way."       

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Members of the Five Moms campaign:

Julie Bermant, pediatric nurse practitioner from Massachusetts  juliebermant.gather.com

Blaise Brooks, accountant from California blaisebrooks.gather.com

 
Christy Crandell, California mother of a former cough-medicine abuser  christycrandell.gather.com

Becky Dyer, D.A.R.E. officer and deputy sheriff from Kansas beckydyer.gather.com

 Hilda Morales, educator from Texas hildamorales.gather.com
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Comments: 126

Heather * Aug 1, 2007, 2:03am EDT
Gosh I remember stuff like that "Robi"s from high school..tons of kids did it, and I'm sure they are doing it now.
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*LORA* M. Aug 1, 2007, 2:04am EDT
good article
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Ron B. Aug 1, 2007, 2:18am EDT
Rx cough syrup, unusually containing hydrocodone is also very popular and can be purchased on the streets.
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Clifford H Colpitts Jr Aug 1, 2007, 2:19am EDT
Great article. I'm almost 59 now and way back when I was 15 cough medicine was, unfortunately, even a big bad thing then!
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Heather C. Aug 1, 2007, 2:22am EDT
Good article! First I knew people did it was in the 70's. In the veterans hospital they would drink not only cough medicine to get high, but mouthwash too! I won't mention it here but you would be surprised what you can get high on that you would never think of.
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Angie m. Aug 1, 2007, 2:30am EDT
I am pretty sure alot of the stores in my area took cough medicene containing them ingredients off the shelves. I know wal-mart up here has.
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Jay M. Aug 1, 2007, 2:31am EDT
Good artical...
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Christopher K. Aug 1, 2007, 2:42am EDT
excellent article Kathryn and yes i know about this problem in our youth..fortunately my daughter just turned 6,i dont haveta worry about this at present but believe you me,i am preparing myself for when that talk comes up...along with other ones..thanks for sharing
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Mark Lange Aug 1, 2007, 2:56am EDT
Hello my friend, I like your shot!
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Please don't be offended for I must go,
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I'll be back again but don't know when.
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Alena Chauntee AKA Kitten Aug 1, 2007, 3:04am EDT
I guess I need to hide my cough syrup
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Barbara B. Aug 1, 2007, 3:10am EDT
This was happening back in my high school
days in the 1950's but I never dared take
part in it! I didn't think it was the right thing
to be doing in the first place. Thank you so
much for sharing this important fact.
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amarpreet k. Aug 1, 2007, 3:11am EDT
great article there ..sure it help to be aware ..
i used to love cough syrup as a kid and till date if I don't get sleep ...i think of buying a cough syrup and have it instead of going for sleeping pills ..i don't take either and spend sleepless nghts though
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HEIDI F. Aug 1, 2007, 3:17am EDT
good article. good information. and just another thing for us to be afraid of.
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Darlene M. Aug 1, 2007, 3:19am EDT
Excellent article. As a Mom of 6 kids.......you have to be aware.....
Dar
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Mugg Muggles, "The Man With the Jive" Aug 1, 2007, 4:08am EDT
For some reason I think that this woman does not have a clue about parenting. If her family was as 'close' as she claims, there is NO REASON for her son to have become an armed thug. I suspect that there were other factors at work besides his discovery of inexpensive intoxicants.
Don't blame the substance abuse alone, and lumping weed into such an emotionally charged story is no different than the bullbleep previous generations were fed about marijuana in the 'reefer madness' era. This reads like a press release from the DEA.
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Seshu BSR C. Aug 1, 2007, 4:50am EDT
Thanks for sharing. a godd article.
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Genine Hopkins Aug 1, 2007, 6:46am EDT
Robobuzz was the name my son referred to. I was working in a small rural area and one of my employees, a kid who was a throwback to the 60s hippie stereotype informed me that I would rather have my kid take LSD every day than Robobuzz once. Not sure how true THAT is, but I got his point. The stuff the locals were cooking up were liquid cough syrup, boiled down until the inert ingredients were gone, then scraped up and placed in an empty capsule. The effect was that of any poisoning; hallucinations, vomitting, dehydration, wooohooo! What fun! (dripping with sarcasm!)

A truly scary substance, but I agree that it's been around awhile. As for the mouthwash comparison, it's not as accurate since it appears that crowd was looking for any alcohol consumption, not dexy buzz.

I made it through one teenager, with two more to go; heaven help me! Keep the lines of communication open, even when it appears that they don't hear a word you say, even when it is a one-sided conversation. Just keep talking!
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Dave J. Aug 1, 2007, 7:26am EDT
Good powerful message about a problem that is probably more prevelent than we know. Thanks for bringing my attention to it and spreading the word about a issue that can be corrected
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Ken W. Aug 1, 2007, 7:44am EDT
It was definitely a very good article and very true about the cough medications being addictions and causing problems. Many or all of the stores here have taken many cough medications off the shelves because of some of the ingredients that are in them that can cause addictions or have alcohol in them. You have to get a prescription from a doctor or have to be a certain age and have a valid photo id to obtain these meds.
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Michael Hawkins Aug 1, 2007, 8:40am EDT
I think teenagers see how screwed up this world is and are using street drugs and medications to chemically adjust to it. The future probably looks bleak to them, hell I've been around a half a century and there haven't been too many improvements in my time.

I think if Cannibis was legal and available that people wouldn't bother with un-natural man-made concoctions to alter their minds. But, in the case of those who are not adults I firmly believe in zero tolerance. Too many children die from drug use and what's worse is huffing of fumes from other products. Too many end up doing stupid things while intoxicated and end up incarcerated which wastes the best years of their lives and turns them into the kind of people you don't want living next to you.

I think kids get too many mixed messages that may contribute to these problems. Alcohol and Tobacco are a prime example. Considering the social and medical problems associated with alcohol use and abuse and the damage from smoking they both should be made illegal. Teens have enough trouble just figuring out who they are and how they fit in, they don't need "anything" interferring with that difficult and uncomfortable process.
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Anne B. Grote Aug 1, 2007, 8:42am EDT
Thank you for this informative, necessry information. It is sad today that so many kids turn to drugs. Nothing good ever comes from it. Thanks.
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Doris H. Aug 1, 2007, 8:43am EDT
Very good article, stores in my area have also removed or placed behind the pharmacist's counter any questionable cold medicines. Also the companies have removed ingredients. Great message that we need to talk with our kids about drugs, communication and a watchful eye of the parents can help.
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Tracey W. Aug 1, 2007, 8:56am EDT
before joining the group and these articles I really wasn't aware how prevalent it was. I have a 13 year old son - thanks for the info!
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arlene (no shame in my game) w. Aug 1, 2007, 9:31am EDT
There is definitely a need to make people more aware of what this drug can do.
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Rm V. Aug 1, 2007, 9:33am EDT
Excellent Article. Awareness and information are always great positives.
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Kimberly Ripley Aug 1, 2007, 9:34am EDT
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing this!
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Laurun M. Aug 1, 2007, 9:37am EDT
Excellent campaign. I took a cough medicine years ago and it made me feel so weird that I went and looked up the ingredients: Dextromethorphan it said was a man-made
morphine that acts on the brain to stop sending messages to cough. "Now how could that help cure you?", I thought. I'd always used alternative medicines but this one time, I had a really bad cough and someone recommended it! WRONG. Funny thing is, it never stopped the cough. Good luck with your awareness campaign.
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Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Aug 1, 2007, 9:50am EDT
We are all too aware of this problem here in Omaha, seems like the news covers this addiction alot,,,so it must be still ongoing with the school kids...If mother nature doesn't supply it I won't take it....glue sniffing was a trend when I was in school, so many stupid classmates buried too soon because of this practice!
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Debby O. Aug 1, 2007, 10:13am EDT
Great article! My son has boys 10 and 13 so this is very helpful to know, thanks.
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lynn a. Aug 1, 2007, 10:20am EDT
We have only visiting from time to time teenagers now. I never thought about this. I guess it's time to go check the label of the Benadryl we have for one of our dogs. Jeez. Good info though. Am glad to have it. This is the only way I'd hear about this until it hit proportions that would cause it to be brought up in a conversation somewhere.
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Dani B. Aug 1, 2007, 10:33am EDT
tons of kids have cough med videos on youtube.
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Kristine B. Aug 1, 2007, 10:46am EDT
Good article. When I was in high school the stupidist drug was huffing which is popular again. Most high school kids stuck to the basics in the 80s such as booze,pot and pills. I can't believe kids are that dumb to drink cough syrup. I never liked to take it when I needed to. Meth labs use cough and cold products as part of the manufactoring process. Meth labs are considered more toxic than nuclear waste dumos and more expolsive. That should say something about the cough syrup!
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Jeana Hamilton Aug 1, 2007, 11:35am EDT
I am only 22 and can remember highschool still verry well, cough suyrup was the big thing, then so i am sure that it is getting much worse.
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Tina Coruth Aug 1, 2007, 11:52am EDT
Very important and valuable article. I have learned a lot as a result of reading it. Thank you, Kathryn.
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Don N. Aug 1, 2007, 11:53am EDT
Very good article. I have heard of this before, but not to the point where the abuser has gone to prison. I know a few people who do anything they can get their hands on, glue, cough medicine, after shave, and even gasoline. It's a very sad state that these people are in.
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Lindsey S. Aug 1, 2007, 12:09pm EDT
Good article I actually know some people who do that and there are alot of people out there who abuse over the counter drugs.
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Glenn T. Aug 1, 2007, 12:39pm EDT
We have come a long way since Smith Brothers and Luden's cough drops. Parental vigilance is needed here.
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Bonnie S. Aug 1, 2007, 12:42pm EDT
That was a good informative article, at the Walmart in this area you have to be 18 to buy it.
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Mandy B. Aug 1, 2007, 12:55pm EDT
I work in a drug store so I know what you are talking about. Cough medicines and diet pills containing certain ingredients are regulated by the federal goverment and you have to be 18 to buy and you can only buy so many a day and in a month. The big problem with that is that now that that stuff is hard to get, people will find the next high that starts the cycle all over again.
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 1:02pm EDT
Thanks all.
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 1:05pm EDT
This article is now the lead Feature in Gather Essentials:Health.
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Haim Kadman Aug 1, 2007, 1:06pm EDT
Thanks for the important info.
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Christy Crandell Aug 1, 2007, 1:20pm EDT
Kathryn,

Thanks for writing about my story and the Five Moms Campaign.

You are helping us get one step closer to reaching our goal of telling every parent in America!


Christy
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Diane B. Aug 1, 2007, 1:23pm EDT
Thank you for sharing your story. As a parent, and now a grandparent I know too well how difficult it is to raise a child. You can do everything "right" but ultimately the child will make the choices. You set the stage, provided a stable home, supervison, love, attention, guidence but he made the choice to do what he did. That does not make you a bad parent! Hopefully your son will mature while doing his time, get more education while in prision and learn to make better choices once he is free again. While you don't like what he did, he is your son and you will always love him Good luck with your campaign - by getting the word out on the dangers of OTC cough medication we can all help stop the abuse.
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Beverly P. Aug 1, 2007, 2:04pm EDT
Absolutely WONDERFUL article. As a mother of 3 teens I KNOW it's out there, I've SEEN it out there and my own son has had some issues with stealing my own pain meds. The kids next door would go buy cough syrup left and right and go out and drink it to get high, tossing the bottles out front. I was so upset. I told my kids if I ever catch them being so stupid I'll kick their butts. But I know it CAN happen. Luckily from all I can tell there's been none going on here but I'll NEVER say NEVER.
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Elsie Duggan Aug 1, 2007, 2:20pm EDT
I think this is a very important article Kathyrn, so many parents aren't aware of what is in these over the counter drugs. Yes, I knew about them. When I got Billy he was doing things like this, because he was so upset with what was going on in his life. It was all over the high school as was weed, and many more of the things kids are into today much more dangerous. There is a no tolerance policy in the school, but it is still available there. I took him out of that high school when I realized there was something I did not like about the way he looked, my husband being a police officer knew signs that should not have been there. We even had him hospitalized for ten days to get him clean. From them on, he has had a psychiatrist and therapist and is now on a very low dose of antidepressant and doing much better. This stuff was also prevalent when my kids were coming up during the sixties. It seems to me there should be something that can be done from keeping kids from buying it, but it is right out there on the aisle shelves in every grocery store. Thanks for the article Kathryn.
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Sheila G. Aug 1, 2007, 2:22pm EDT
Hmmm...Christy pointed out the need to be ever vigilant in the lives of our children. How is this even possible in the fast paced society that we live in today. We have become so consumer oriented that both parents must work to keep up with the need for stuff. Kids are left in the dust to fend for themselves and all too often end up "looking for love in all the wrong places!"

Kids need guidance. Kids need attention. Kids need to eat a meal sitting at a table talking with people who care about them. The TV should be banned from their first 20 years of life. The computer should be kept behind lock and key. Cell phones should be illegal. Children are unable to (more and more) look you in the eye and communicate. They haven't been taught the fine art of communicating. Talk to the kids who are running or living on the streets and there biggest problem is that they are lonely! They need to know that someone cares.

I know that I'm grandstanding a bit and that some of my suggestions are just not practical but...if we all did it...life would be simpler and better!!
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Tiffany G. Aug 1, 2007, 3:44pm EDT
great article!
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Maureen Sullivan Stemberg Aug 1, 2007, 3:45pm EDT
Kathryn, Thank you! For writing this very important article and getting the word out...They have started to remove as I'm sure you are aware in our state and many others -- sinutab.
People, were making "meth" out of it...the lesson here -- know what your children are doing and digesting. Kudos, to the 5 Mom's group & for them & you to address the very serious issue. ~mo-zy
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dee-dee Wishes you the best life has to offer S. Aug 1, 2007, 4:31pm EDT
great article, thank you for getting this off.
10*
God Bless
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wonderful article
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 4:33pm EDT
This article will be a Gather Home Page Feature from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. tomorrow, Thursday.
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Mugg Muggles, "The Man With the Jive" Aug 1, 2007, 5:07pm EDT
"Meth labs are considered more toxic than nuclear waste dumos and more expolsive. "
OMG !!!! WHERE is your BRAIN?
Nuclear waste is poisonous for multiple CENTURIES dolt!
How can you so cavalierly compare them?
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P.W. Dowdy Aug 1, 2007, 5:18pm EDT
I feel so naive. I had no idea.

The comments from the readers make excellent points also. Thank you for bring the article to my attention.
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leann l. Aug 1, 2007, 5:53pm EDT
the hy-vee i live by has put restricions on how much of it you can buy (its a small tow so its easier to enforce) and other substances as well such as asprin and other things that teens use to get high or that people use to make methanphetamines i know because i work there and sometimes the computer will go nuts if someone buys lots of certain things together or lots of cold medicine
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Joy G. Aug 1, 2007, 6:01pm EDT
Nice article, thanks for sharing Kathryn..^^
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 1, 2007, 7:05pm EDT
First of all, meth isn't as bad as nuclear waste. Try smoking or injecting nuclear waste and you'll see what I mean.

Straight DM cough medicine isn't used in meth labs. The stuff they use to make meth is pseudephedrine, the most popular decongestant around (sudafed et al.) There are combination cough medicine/cold medicine drugs that may contain it.

I can remember people drinking large quantities of OTC cough medicine in the 60s. I tried it once. Drank an 8 oz bottle. Nothing notable happened. Judging by the enthusiasm people I knew had for it it must have done something for somebody.

Getting loaded, in and of itself, doesn't cause people to commit crimes. It may release inhibitions but it doesn't make anyone into a "different" person.

You can't control intoxicants by making them illegal. It's a mug's game. It's like trying to cut the heads off the Hydra or doubling up on your bets at roulette.
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Sophiya S. Aug 1, 2007, 7:43pm EDT
very important article
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 7:47pm EDT
Nippy, iy may have been that the cough medicine you were drinking in the 60s did not have dextromethorphan in it. It was made around that time but I do not think it was widely available until later.

I can also say, from personal experience, (after having accidentally had too much cough medicine about 15 years ago = it was one with DM - for Dextromethorphan in it) that the experience was very unpleasant.

As a lot of us know, teens who aim to get high will go to extremes, and will use whatever means they can find to achieve that goal. That is what makes these 'highs' so dangerous.
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 7:49pm EDT
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 7:50pm EDT
This article is also Featured in Gather Essentials: Health.
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 1, 2007, 8:23pm EDT
Did too. Romilar. I made sure to read the label to get the dextromethorphan version. People were drinking it to get high and dextromethorphan was the key the same way that toluene was the key in glue.
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 1, 2007, 8:26pm EDT
Dextromethorphan appeared on drugstore and supermarket shelves in the late 50s or early 60s. It was, and still is, the active ingredient in cough suppressant OTC cough medicine.
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Nancy S. Aug 1, 2007, 8:29pm EDT
I was aware of the cough syrup misuse. What I wasn't aware of , was canned dust remover high. When the can I use on my computer turned up empty I didn't understand. Then one day one of my younger grandsons asked me to check on his older cousin who was sitting in his bedroom giggling. I found him with a can in his hand & really out of it for a few minutes. Needless to say we had a nuclear explosion in our house that day. I don't think any of the kids in my family will ever try anything like that again, but I keep my eyes & ears open anyway.
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 1, 2007, 8:31pm EDT
See the history section of the Wikipedia dextromethorphan article
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 1, 2007, 8:45pm EDT
I guess some people don't know what kids use to get loaded. There are some things that weren't around 40 years ago but what's available now was either available then or is a new wrinkle on a tried and true concept. The last real innovation was psychedelics and that was only among Western Europeans who'd never heard of peyote and the various fungal things people from other cultures had used for centuries.

Before the ozone worries, they used to sell canned freon in liquor stores for frosting glasses. Again, in the part of my life I'm amazed I lived through, my friends and I tried that. You had to put it into a balloon so it could get to room temperature. Otherwise there'd be disastrous effects. AFAIK the fun was from oxygen deprivation. Freon is chemically inert as far as human metabolism is concerned.

I don't recommend that anybody sniff glue, breathe solvents, inhale compressed gases, or anything that's poisonous and/or deprives the brain of oxygen.

I can speak from personal experience on inhalants. Like liquor or any other drug some people are going to use them regardless of what anyone says.
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Todd L Aug 1, 2007, 8:50pm EDT
KEO,
As always an excellent, informative article...For the ones who haven't heard of this type of drug abuse....Wake up! Parents this is a very serious thing for you to concern yourselves with. If you have teenagers living in your home take the time to address the issue. Do not be the one who says"Not my kid", he/she doesn't do drugs...BULLSHIT....Your children's lives are at stake, be informed, be aware and most of all BE INVOLVED....In every day, hour, waking minute of their lives. It's your choice. Celebrate their graduation, or in some cases their funeral.....Your choice!
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Felicia R. Aug 1, 2007, 9:32pm EDT

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For sharing this article....

I know how much this is actually a big epidemic in the world today... Thank you for making it more presidence about it.
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Gisela S. Aug 1, 2007, 11:17pm EDT
Excellent work Kathryn! It's so easy for us to pat ourselves on the back thinking we're home free just because the kids have been provided a safe neighborhood to grow up in and a school with a good reputation.

The lesson here is to remain ever vigilent - and to keep your kids informed as well - can't be repeated enough.

Congratulations on your feature!
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 11:26pm EDT
Nippy yes, Dextromethorphan was introduced in 1958 and Romilar did become a problem so that by the 1970s it was removed from open shelves. But Dextromethorphan was not as widespread as it is now, nor was the problem as widespread as it is now. Now, every brand of cough medicine is available with or without DM. (Dextromethorphan - Rotitussin DM or House Brand DM or plain.)
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Kathryn E. Aug 1, 2007, 11:30pm EDT
And kids have huffed the nitrous oxide from whipping cream and have inhaled mothballs, sometimes landing in a coma.
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Michael Hawkins Aug 2, 2007, 12:19am EDT
Back in the 60's & 70's the cough syrup had codeine in it and you had to sign for it at the pharmacy.
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Mugg Muggles, "The Man With the Jive" Aug 2, 2007, 12:43am EDT
Turpin Hydrate Elixir (codeine cough suppressant) is nicknamed "G.I. Gin".
Roy Orbison used it religiously.
I remember as a 7th grader buying a bottle of Coke and a bottle of Lemon Extract (which is about 70% alcohol) and drinking just enough Coke out of the bottle so that you could top it off w/ the L.E. and then swirl it about for a "kiddie cocktail".
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Wendy C. Aug 2, 2007, 1:36am EDT
Your child may die from Dex, and you won't know it. We admitted our daughter to the hospital for suicidal depression, 3 yrs ago. She had a history of depression, so drugs didn't hit my radar screen, until she was in the hospital.

On a hunch and a strong Mom feeling, I went through her room and guess what? Cold Medicine. I called the hospital to let them know. The doctor said no less than 8 kids had been admitted for depression brought on by dex use that year.

Addicts come from all walks of life. To blame parents is just plain stupid.
We got lucky. Our daughter stopped using and has stayed clean. For this I am forever grateful.
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 2:17am EDT
Oh my, Wendy, such a sad story but I am glad it worked out for you. Good for you for checking your daughter' room.
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 2:19am EDT
I remember both Turpin Hydrate and Codeine for extremely stubborn coughs, that were, in retrospect (for me), probably infective bronchitis and should have had antibiotics.
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 2:22am EDT
Yes, Paulette, it is extremely important information.
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Bent Lorentzen Aug 2, 2007, 2:29am EDT
This is an excellent article you have written, Kathryn. I guess when society has become very stressful for whatever reason, people will seek any sort of way to not feel the pain of that. I'm grateful you wrote his.
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Bent Lorentzen Aug 2, 2007, 2:36am EDT
Here in Denmark there has been a huge explosion of teenagers who sniff various stuff. It is sad to see beautiful minds and bodies being so destroyed. We need parents to become "parents."
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 2:48am EDT
Bent, you hit the nail on the head, I think - with your comment that kids will seek any way not to feel the pain...
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Bent Lorentzen Aug 2, 2007, 2:55am EDT
It's you that hit the nail on the head with this article. Thank you so much for bringing more enlightenment into our society. If people could understand what this is all about, we would all work together better. What you wrote here brings forth more knowledge and understanding in society, and from that we grow wiser in how to heal the stuff that goes awry in our society, rather than always pointing fingers this way and that way. I am so grateful for what you wrote. I so wish that in even more stressful societies, like the underbelly of Rio de Janeiro, its members could gain more wisdom by having such forums
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 5:11am EDT
Bent, we have the Five Moms campaign to thank, really.

But thank you.
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amanda wallin Aug 2, 2007, 7:00am EDT
Very well written article.
I know a guy who's brain damaged from doing so much Robitusson. Now the drug of choice are painkillers of various types so parents, be on the look out!
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Katie Scarlett (Site Bouncer Wanna Be) O. Aug 2, 2007, 7:01am EDT
Excellent article. I have been aware of this abuse for some time now and have spoken with my teen about it more than once. We've warned him about the dangers and he understands the risks should he ever find his friends doing such as this. Thanks for informing more parents.
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Michelle M. Aug 2, 2007, 9:15am EDT
Awareness is the key! Thanks for opening our eyes to yet another possible danger for our children!!
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 2, 2007, 12:34pm EDT
I guess all the flirting with brain damage I did when I was young prepared me for doing drug education when our daughter was growing up. We were able to discuss the pros and cons of various drugs in a non-judgmental manner. We had to do something to counteract the idiocy of DARE and other school drug education programs. It worked for us. Our daughter got through high school and college with minimal drug use. The key, other than her temperament, was that she knew she could talk to us about drugs knowing that we wouldn't go nuts about it.

I think one of the most important thing in talking about drugs with kids is being willing to talk about why people take them, what the pleasurable effects are. If you balance that with the disadvantages and be sure to discuss each variety of drugs you have a much better chance of giving them the right attituce.
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Hendrik de Villiers Aug 2, 2007, 12:40pm EDT
Very good written article. I am supporting you whole-heartedly.
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Geeta M. Aug 2, 2007, 1:42pm EDT
Very informative.
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Stephen H. Aug 2, 2007, 3:12pm EDT
I agree that the best solution is awareness. Very good article.
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 4:34pm EDT
Amanda, wow, excellent response.

Thank you all. I will respond to more comments later.

I want to thank the Five Moms campaign.
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Elizabeth A. Aug 2, 2007, 6:42pm EDT
Kathryn, You've written a very good and informative article. Thank you.

"Here in Denmark there has been a huge explosion of teenagers who sniff various stuff. It is sad to see beautiful minds and bodies being so destroyed........"--Bent Lorentzen

I agree with the above partial quote by Bent. In fact, I agree with all three of his quotes on this article. I hope we will do more research to help lessen the stress on children today.
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Kathryn E. Aug 2, 2007, 6:45pm EDT
Elizabeth, I am with you 100 percent.
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A K. Aug 2, 2007, 8:19pm EDT
good article
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Rev. Rebecca Guile Hudson Aug 2, 2007, 8:50pm EDT
I am so so glad you are bringing this out to the public's attention - this needs to go EVERYWHERE! I have known some people with this problem, including one person in my family. There's another issue, too, that needs to be paid attention to: over-the-counter antihistamine abuse. One of my brothers (I'll post 2 ballads I wrote about him, BTW) has been sober of alcohol for almost 20 years, but got addicted to antihistamines, and just this year finally stopped.

Thank you for this!
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pamela r. Aug 2, 2007, 10:13pm EDT
Excellent article about a problem many remain very naive about--keep spreading the msg. ---seen too many kids in the emergency rooms form that sort of thing.
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