We are excited to bring you the latest upgrade to Gather! With this upgrade we strive to present the dynamic content and conversations happening on Gather in a cleaner, more intuitive format. The site is now organized into 4 main navigation areas, represented by tabs at the top of every page, your My Gather homepage, People, Groups and Explore. We have de-cluttered the homepage and highlighted just what is happening in the community at any given moment. Please take a look at the detailed overview article and then do some exploring of your own.
We have made these changes with you in mind - so we definitely want to know what YOU think! We invite you to post your thoughts about the new look and features right here.
If you have any questions about how to do or find something on the site, please stop by today's Daily Help article or send us a question by using the Contact Member Support form.


Comments: 170
At least I figured out how to publish (Click 'My Gather' and then 'Share' and then 'Publish') although I haven't done it yet.
I don't want to have to, so to speak, "read a manual" to figure out how to use gather.. That's just ridiculous.
I keep finding myself "scooching" my chair to the right, as if doing so might also get me away from the left side of the page. The writing is way too close to the side of the page.
"Normal" web sites have indexes and menus at the left side of the page. Not having them is so uncomfortable. Once again, I'm sitting here longing for pre-hawthorne days.
And it is taking sooooooooooooooooo long to load a page. It's not my computer. Every other web site I've visited today has been fine for speed in loading.
If things WORKED, I would not be as cranky about this upgrade as I was about Hawthorne ...but having just lost an hour's worth of work on a day that I couldn't afford to give Gather an hour - especially on a writing essentials hour (y'all need a new name for Essentials, since our placement clearly indicates that they are SO not Essential any more), I am most assuredly cranky.
And they broke our workaround back to the Articles for Me link .... WHY IN CHARLES' NAME is it SO important that we not be allowed to access our Articles the way we WANT to...with comment count indicators and so on?
I don't get it.... someone is a total control freak, apparently.
In short, the new upgrade is even more disappointing than the latest one... hope that the Gather team would take all this into attention before undertaking any further 'improvements'...
Blessings - S.
AND I don't know how to get to the home page. :(
I just got up and have e-mailed a friend on how to publish (share). Hope she can figure it out. I think having to hold the mouse over the words to find it is making it more difficult for a lot of people to locate.
Flit mentioned losing our "backdoor" to the articles for me and photos/images for me. I already miss that. I had used it every day since Hawthorne.
And I agree that calling poetry and major articles a "post" devalues them.
Why???
I like the new two-column page. For me, beginning to read on the left column feels natural, like a book. I like the new refine search features. I like that we can now embed video in art. . . umm shared posts. I like that you have limited tags and groups to one visible line, and I like going to My Gather Page when I sign on.
I still wish you would separate content into categories (articles/stories/poetry/recipes/games/etc.) and not focus on the "most" lists which I believe feature what a few people manage to put on the list instead of what "most" people really care about.
1.) Mail. The gathermail system is all messed up now. If I want to reply to an email, I'd like to be able to see the email I'm replying to without having to copy and paste it into my response. In addition, I hate having to go back to "My Feeds" page in order to see if there is a new green envelope. The little green envelope at the top of the page was very convenient.
2.) When trying to "Submit" a comment, I have to tab twice - bypassing "Send a private message instead." It seems like that doesn't make much sense. If I spend 10 minutes typing out a comment, why would my first tabbed to option be "Send a private message instead"?
3.) It took me 20 minutes to figure out where to go to publish something. That is scary.
Seriously I cant figure out how to publish or share or whatever its called now.
The only real problem I'm having is the slow download of page views and submitting a comment.
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And now I must click "submit" again just to post this stupid comment. This is really damaging to my psyche, you know? sigh.....
Haven't done much here today but so far I really don't like it!!!
With most gather upgrades there are new features I like, some I don't like and some just need getting used to.
The connection times are so slow and screwed up at the moment (not surprising given porgramming bugs and probably lots of traffic) I will play with it all tomorrow.
I can see a few things I don't care for.
I wouldn't say you have decluttered the homepage — you have eliminated it. I guess this is a marketing decision for what non-members view but I think we all liked it.
I don't like that when I reply to an email that their message does not appear on my reply. Helps me answer them point by point and helps keep the thread of an ongoing email clear. This is standard with all email systems. I'd like this back.
The email-connection request-group request little green icons always at the top of any page were elegantly simple, small and very useful. I would lead a protest march to get those back.
Ah, the joys of making changes.
MaryAnne, I'd normally say "Have a great day" but I think it's more appropriate to end with "Have the best day you can, considering..."
(Oh, I think repeated submission will be a personal growth experience for Jamie. :)
So far, one comment would be to allow the default on posts/articles as "recent" instead of most popular, etc.
or a Mail tab not take me back to mail if I click on it?
and they broke the Articles for Me page... I could cry. I honestly think that will be the deciding factor for me :(
Basically, these changes look like another step away from promoting content and another step towards social networking. As I stated during the Hawthorne fiasco, I already have a Facebook account that I ignore, I really don't need two.
Looks like Gather is trying to make the site more dependent on the user's community, going inward which is another risk. Keep peeling that onion and you knowe what happens.
I do think the home page allowed those of us that wanted to get on our soapboxes to find where to do it ... which is maybe what Gather wanted to avoid - flaming controversy for new users coming to look at the content.
But I don't even know why I am typing this, any complaint made is just reworded into "put on a happy face" language.
One of my main concerns is that Gather Essentials are not considered essential any longer by Gather and are relegated to a mere footnote at the bottom of the pages. Most people (at least, I don't) don't even go down that far to find content. As I have stated before in other comments, it is a major disappointment to me as a Gather Correspondent as I take great pride in my efforts (testing recipes, researching information, taking photos and such) to publish/share my articles/posts as a food correspondent.
I liked going to the Gather Home Page and miss that option.
Also, as I mentioned yesterday during the viewing, I could care less who pinged a member and who is now friends with another member. I know I can choose the option for my feeds, but what happens when I want to read not only posts by friends but also view their images/photos since I can choose only one of those options?
.........and I want Chuck to know that the feed option keeps reverting to 'all activities' this morning. I will give it a little while to adjust, but it is quite annoying to have it change on its own.
Overall, I approve and like many of the changes, but feel that more importance needs to be placed on other issues instead of mostly cosmetics....
As far as ads being on the right hand side, my browser doesn't block them, in fact I think it promotes advertising but the side is still blank. WAY BACK UP at the top by the "other articles by..." there are a couple ads but that is all. And why do you get nice ads like a car and I get POISE PADS? What's up with that?
Someone else said the default on posts should go to recent and I agree. I don't care who has the most comments as it is undoubtedly a game.
I just replied to an e-mail and was surprised the previous one disappeared. I've seen several people mention that. Was that in the design or just a temporary glitch?
"The old timers are going to HATE it."
Yeah we do.
Still trying to give it a chance....
I just "submitted" a "post", and instead of going to the finished "post", I got a blank page. That is just wonderful. Now, not only do we have to contend with no preview option on the article editor (sorry "post" editor), we cannot even edit after the fact without searching for our "post"?
Next time you upgrade, dear Gather, Fix The Editor!
Then, after signing in, I found myself looking at a lit of my own articles. Why on earth do I want to be delivered there each time?
I tried to comment on an article and when I posted the comment, it disappeared and so did all the other comments on that article.
I like the basic looks of the page for an article and comments but that is not sufficient payment for what we have given up. I'll look at it a bit, but if I cannot find a way to easily locate all my recent comments, I'll probably move on to another forum. But I will give it a try. I've written enough programs to know that pleasing everyone is impossible so many programmers give up and just please themselves!
SUGGESTION: UNDO IT
Homepage? What homepage?
Looks like "Essentials" weren't so essential after all.
Articles" become "posts" (as in fence-?), and "publishing" becomes "sharing"--the better to not intimidate those who are too timid to believe that they can be real "writers", presumably.
"Upgrades" are in the eye of the upgraders.
We are not happy with these changes because they are so counter-intuitive to the experience we members have every single day.
Gather staff experiences Gather in a very different way, because you all are different people with a different agenda. Even though you all are on your computers at least as much if not more than many of us.
We have a different purpose in being here than you all.
Please ask a number of us to sit in your offices for extended periods of time, next time around to see how we actually like the proposed changes. Or not.
Btw, The Boston Media will do a 'vegematic' on Lisa's press release.
Just to let you know in advance. From a former major daily newspaper reporter.
Overall, I am not so pleased with it. If you only change one thing, please move the format over - even an inch!
I wish these ch ch ch changes could be undone!
sorry
peace,
Lisa wrote in her press release:
>"Every change, from layout to colors to photo selection to simplified site navigation, is based specifically on research Gather conducted on how adults want to use a social network, as well as feedback from prominent brands seeking to reach a more adult and affluent audience."
Then please tell us who gather conducted this research with. You certainly didn't mention any research to any of your correspondents.
This so-called upgrade is actually a dumbing-down of gather. Why is gather so determined to dumb itself down? I don't get it.
Laura cited this on another comment trail and it bears repeating here (I'm going to highligt the salient points that gather should really reconsider:
Once upon a time.....Gather had a dream:
Old Highlights of Gather's Early Conception
From TMCnet September 21, 2005
Gather.com Launches Website for 30 Million Public Radio Listeners to Interact and Share Diverse Perspectives; Earnings-based Model to Supplant One-sided Blogging
BOSTON --(Business Wire)-- Sept. 19, 2005 -- Gather(TM), the unique online site where public radio listeners and other informed, engaged people share diverse perspectives, announced today its public beta launch at www.gather.com(TM). Gather is the first online outlet to encourage global perspectives to emerge across a wide variety of topics and be heard above today's media noise. In contrast to other media and single-sourced individual blogs, which are hard to find and difficult to compare across a single topic, Gather provides a high-visibility environment where writers, bloggers and other individual contributors can come together to provide a 360-degree global view into shared areas of interest - and get paid for it. ……
Today, public radio listeners enjoy diverse radio programming that spans local and national news and political commentary, business and economics, food and wine, spirituality, music and comedy. Listeners to a single program share a common passion, yet have varying perspectives on a single subject. The one-way radio medium fails, however, to capture this collective knowledge and does not allow people to interact together in a broader forum.
"The 30 million people listening to public radio every day have a depth of knowledge and perspective to share. They often have more in common with the people hearing the programs they love than they do with their neighbors or family," said Gather Chairman Bill Kling, who is also Chairman and CEO of the American Public Media Group, the nation's second largest public radio organization. "Gather allows this audience to dynamically interact and form friendships with people who add value to their passions through shared experiences and perspectives. That may lead to conversations or to adventures with similarly interesting people."
"Gather is creating a unique place online for me to interact with smart, engaged people. It's a place where I can be rewarded for contributing my perspective through thought, art, or commentary," said Verie Sandborg of Deerfield, Illinois, a Gather member and frequent contributor.
So please tell us gather PTB: why are you deviating so far away from your original mission? Why is gather lying in their press releases? Gather conducted no "research" that made sense for this "upgrade." Why the lies? Why are you trying to shut down our sense of community on gather while lying and saying you are fostering it?
I would appreciate direct answers to my many questions. Though I highly doubt I will see any.
If not, leave it alone. These constant changes are a waste of everyone;s time, they do not improve things, they often make them worse (like this one).
Perhaps it would be useful if Gather let its members know what the site really is thinking it wants to be. Is your goal to attract people who would rather "share" "posts" than publish articles? In other words are you trying to go young? Or stupid? Or what?
I notice that the community "comments" tab is gone(?) and used to enjoy that as well.
I also received an email today, but there was no icon showing it. It wasn't until I went back to My Gather that I saw a message icon on the left hand side showing it. Is this the norm now? I found those little icons on the upper right hand corner of pages very helpful.
Finally for the moment, when answering that email today, I could not see thier (the senders) message at all. Is that new as well? If so, I don't like that at all... hard to recall all they asked and said in replying.
Well, off to explore some more....
I haven't tried to post anything yet, so I'll have to criticize that later, but overall I like the new Gather.
I wish Gather stopped screwing with this. :O/
The problem is the help desk page isn't responding as this site is overloaded. No one likes to spend time trying to get to a help desk much less waste the time once it's found.
There's better things to do with what "free time" we have available.
I came here to talk about two very specific issues, and actually posted a comment here about them... then read the comments already posted and realized that Lainie already brought up the exact issues I have the most problems with. So thanks Lainie, I second everything you just said!
OK, I'm going now... I hope everything gets straightened out. :o)
And personally, I find it hilarious that people are getting all offended at terminology. What is so demeaning about a post? It's more inclusive of all the types of "articles" we see on Gather. This way, the things that in no way qualify as articles are not being called articles. I would think that writers would be happier that games and jokes and such are NOT being called articles, that they are not being elevated to that status. A post could be anything. I think that that was probably the idea.
DON'T discount my opinions just because I am related to a Gather staff member! While I do support my daughter in whatever she does, I DO NOT say that I like something unless I do. She can tell you that I do not hesitate to let her know if there is something that I do not like. Anyone who knows me, knows that this is true.
I didnt work this hard on a job.
Maybe I liked gather just a little to much.
I wish it was user friendly like it was in July last year when I joined.