Last week, Netwinner introduced a new game called Banko. It's bingo, basically, but you have 4 chances of winning. You can get a bingo line, fill in a pattern, get all 4 corners, or get what's called a banko- filling the entire card.
When you win one, you have 4 minutes to accept the prize, or decline it in hopes of getting a bigger one. Because most of the patterns include a bingo, it's next to impossible to get a pattern before a bingo. Likewise with 4 corners- it's always either the 4 corners or the bingo first.
One thing I've noticed, is that you don't get a set amount of "spins" per card. You get 10 cards per day, and after pressing "Play", they just play themselves out. You don't do anything like check off the spot, or click for a new number. It just goes automatically.
Once you have chosen to accept a prize, it will show you a fast version of the numbers left, and what prize you could have won, had you stuck it out. The problem with sticking it out, is that you never know when the game ends. It could be at 30 spins, it could be at 60.
That part by itself bugs me quite a bit, because it doesn't seem fair. You could be 1 box away from 500 points, with only 32 spins, and it just ends. Or, you could be at 60. There's no rhyme or reason... or is there?
I've been taking note of the boxes left when a card ends. Almost always, the card will end if there are no "free" spots left that they can fill without you winning.
I watched this with 10 cards in a row, and every time it ended, it was when all the available spots resulted in a win. How fair is that? "Oh, we know you'll win if we give you anymore spots, so we'll just end it now."
It just seems rigged to me. I do like that it's different than the same old spin till you win game. And I can ignore it longer. But the possibility of winning anything good just doesn't exist.
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Like you though, it's a decent change of pace I guess. I've won a bit more points using it than I normally do with the "money wheel" as we're now calling it, so I guess I'll just deal with the "injustice". lol
David, I do win a bit more, which is nice. It's also gotten me playing netwinner more. And how true about it being a business.
My experience with Netwinner -
OK, I have been a member of Netwinner since June (nearly 5 months). I didn't seem to care for it much but would occasionally get on and play when I was bored. Recently Netwinner launched a new game (Banko). After playing that game a few times I ran into what seemed to be glitches. Playing it many times it seemed to happen all to often, especially when you were suppose to win big amounts.
ie: I was playing and won bingo on 10 points, I didn't want the 10 points because it's not worth it to stop at 10 points so I continued the game. I then got the 4 corners on 10 points, declined it because it still wasn't worth settling for 20 points. Then I got the pattern for 250 points but the game failed to credit me the points and finished calling the numbers where I ended up with nothing...
Another ie: The game was going on for ever.. I finally got 4 corners for 50 points but declined it because it would have been more valuable (Jackpot valuable) to have gotten bingo, which I was set up in 3 different ways to get. The game was almost finished calling the numbers at 67 numbers (it calls 70 numbers maxed) and suddenly started calling K-0, K-0, K-0.. I lost..
I then went and reported both incidents and was told it's a glitch it's not rigged. (Thinking to my self well if it's a problem with the game, I should still have won in both cases), so I asked if I can be manually compensated and was denied and made fun of.
So I decided to do a little investigation into the game my self to see what was causing the glitch and recommend on how to fix it. I simply downloaded the banko.swf file located at http://netwinner.com/flash/games/banko/banko.swf and decompiled it so I can take a look into the source code (Completely legal to do).
During my investigation I unveiled a naughty little secrete, it wasn't a glitch. It was actually doing it on purpose. The method they use to call the banko balls are not even random, it is dependent on a remote server to call the ball which means, netwinner has the capability to manipulate which balls are called.
I also found that their was two different arrays at which the balls are stored in, a "winning array" and an "anti-winning array" which also gives credit to the fact that they are indeed not randomly generated. What it means is one array holds the numbers that are on your banko card, and the other hold numbers that aren't on your banko card.
With those to findings means Netwinner controls when you will win, how you will win, and how much you will win. Is it a coincident that it's been around over a year and hasn't paid out a large sum to one individual winner? No! They control it. The have not problem paying out points because the most you can get with those are gift cards which come from their sponsor and is no expense to them.
So here's how the game is supposed to work. You get a Banko card (like Bingo). It has 25 numbers on the card a matrix of 5 x 5. Their are 4 different was you can win on each each card (each game). There's the original (bingo -one line of 5 numbers), then (4 corners - cover the cards 4 corners), then there's the (pattern - cover the shaded pattern depicted on the card), and the last one (Banko - cover all the spaces). The amount of balls that are called is supposedly random (It's not) between 35 and 70 numbers. The amount won is supposedly determined on a revolving prize wheel that revolves every 5 balls that are called. (Also not true since the game is predetermined).
Here's the so called glitch, the game is supposed to stop calling numbers that is supposedly random. But that is not what's really going on. That random number at which the game is supposed to end is based on how much you have won during the game. If you are going to win more than what was predetermined before the game had even started, the game is supposed to stop calling numbers. Some times it fails to stop so the game continues and you are not credited the points for any other wins.
In the case of when I should have won the jackpot but it started calling K-0, that is because the "anti-winning array" was empty so it was trying to stop me from getting the jackpot with the anti-winning array which was empty resulting in it calling the default "0" (K-0).
Thus it's not a glitch, netwinner is just not done perfecting it's cover-up (the fact that it's rigged).
I contacted the admin again after my findings, at which for the most part agreed with me. However he insisted "it isn't rigged." He also said, "We do have controls as to who wins what, we would be fools if we didn't." I replied saying, "If your business model gave prizes out that accommodated the rate at which your sponsors paid you, you could still turn a profit and give prizes out to your members, then you would not have to rig your games and offer huge prizes that you do not intend to pay out." His reply, "OK, we heard enough of you." then banned me out of the chatroom, deleted my account, and forfeited the 58,000 points I had earned in the 5 months I was a member.
So, I recommend to anyone signing up with big dreams.. Don't get your hopes up, no one will ever win the Jackpot, or any other substantially high cash out in the form of a check. They are simply getting rich off of their ads for you wasting your time to get a few $25 gift cards every 2 - 3 moths or so..
Such a waste of time, it's Really is Rigged!!
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