by George McNaughton
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April 30, 2006

Does This Mean Divorce? Social Conservatives and Mega Wealthy Neo-Cons

January 04, 2008 10:55 PM EST
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Well, it was a fun ride for the neo-conservatives while it lasted -- the Christian right was a cheap date for them, all it required was persecuting a few minorities and a little posturing and they got hundreds of thousands of people to vote against the future of their children, the care of their elderly, and against their own economic interests. It was probably inevitable that from this moral wasteland a populist Social Gospel politician would awake from the dead. That may be the end of the Republican party that we have all grown to despise as amorality wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

The question is does Huckabee's victory in Iowa mean that the religious right just figured out they were getting their pockets picked, or...does it just mean they couldn't stomach voting for a Mormon?
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Comments: 17

Gary Gentry Jan 4, 2008, 11:06pm EST
"amorality wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Brilliant!

I suspect three buck Huck won in Iowa for many reasons, including the ones you mention. They may have tired of Romney's negative ads and myriad positions on every issue. They don't trust him or his religion.
Jeff H. Jan 4, 2008, 11:40pm EST
Conservatism doesn't come with a flag or a religion. Huckabee is no conservative.

But yeah, many on the christian right are no different than liberals. The only difference is that God makes them want to take and give instead of emotions and self appointed moral righteousness.....
Carol Lloyd Jan 4, 2008, 11:45pm EST
thanks for sharing.
Carl, Prince of Prose, Villain of Verse Jan 5, 2008, 12:05am EST
No self respecting conservative is going to vote for Giuliani, even with the endorsement of "America's Heaven Sent Hemorrhoid Healer" Pat Robertson. Good Gawd, he even has that crazy old coot Poderhertz as his senior foreign policy advisor. Great. Can you imagine the State Department headed by a man who advocates Armageddon?
Debra C. Jan 5, 2008, 1:04am EST
I suspect Mike Huckabee will not have as easy a time of it in the east.
Olga M. Jan 5, 2008, 5:28am EST
Very astute analysis.
Melinda ~choosing happiness~ S. Jan 5, 2008, 8:15am EST
very well stated, George!!
George McNaughton Jan 5, 2008, 12:00pm EST
Jeff, "Conservatism doesn't come with a flag or a religion." In America it does, but perhaps not in New Hampshire -- in New Hampshire it comes with the libertarian wing of the Republican Party, that is why Buchanan once won New Hampshire and why Ron Paul will have a strong showing over there and why Huckabee will have trouble in New Hampshire. Romney is going to have problems over there for a variety of reasons -- one being they will not be fired up about supporting a neo-Conservative because they don't like big government and they do not like pandering to the Christian right even though the pandering was unsuccessful. Giuliani has not campaigned in NH, so that leaves conservatives only one place to go and my guess is they will go enmasse to McCain -- but I could be wrong. This is a crazy world with a lot of Republican candidates and wingnuts floating around. My guess on the Democrat side of the ledger that Obama will win by a close margin -- that depends on how many votes Edwards saps away from Clinton and Obama and which of those two he winds up hurting the most.
Jerry Kays Jan 6, 2008, 3:26am EST
After watching hours of both parties "debating" tonight I find myself leaning strongly towards Edwards for many reasons but mainly because he does not deal with K-street and really believes in helping the middle class vs corporate interests.
Chris W. Jan 6, 2008, 4:01pm EST
George- ooch, that was a slug to the belly of the Republicans. I don't know if this is really a divorce, but I do not believe that they are ready to perform the needed soul searching. They need to sit down and go over the film of the big game and see where they screwed up. Not a good idea to suit up for the next game without doing that.
Guillhaume Joseph-Maria M. Jan 6, 2008, 4:07pm EST
Romney, the platitude-pronouncing waffler, has crafted the best campaign that one could imagine for 2004.

The toad does not realize that the electorate has changed and that the issues are vastly different.
WM H. Jan 6, 2008, 4:14pm EST
"... or...does it just mean they couldn't stomach voting for a Mormon?"

I choose "B".
I don't really think it was Mormonism that got Huckabee the support. I think it was flat-tax. Huckabee managed to pick up the old Steve Forbes crowd and the religious right and many others. I don't think Christians are one issue voters.

Oh and by the way, Romney reminds me of Gary Hart. I can't put a finger on why... but he does.
George McNaughton Jan 6, 2008, 11:26pm EST
Shelley, I think you are wrong. I chalk the Romney defeat in Iowa up to religion pure and simple. If Romney gets wasted in New Hampshire, on the other hand -- I would chalk that up to being all over the map with respect to his stance on issues. Rudy intentionally chose to forfeit both NH and Iowa -- the risk is that he is now so far out of the limelight that he may be permanently out of too many people's minds. Romney suffers from too much Madison Avenue polished businessman persona -- people can't relate to him. I'm a Mormon and even I can't relate to him -- but its my understanding that he did well in the recent debate, so we will have to await the returns to see.
Charles Temm JR Jan 28, 2008, 3:47pm EST
November is looking scarier all the time...what a choice we'll be likely facing...two disasters instead of one and a lesser evil.

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