There are indeed problems with the current system of nominating and electing congress people and presidents. I don’t believe it is possible, under our constitution, to eliminate parties, nor do I think it is necessary. Most candidates don’t get their money from the party but from various fund raising sources. The party will put money into races which are crucial and where the amount of money the party can spend might make the difference in an election.
The big problem is the sources of the money used in campaigns and it’s relationship to lobbyists.
At the present time a candidate must accept money from sources I’d just as soon they did not in order to get elected. Whether that is from oil companies, drug companies, the banking/insurance industry or what, the large, moneyed, interest groups today finance our political campaigns. They frequently finance both sides in the campaign so they will be insured access and influence regardless of who gets elected. Obviously, they don’t care about the nation or very much about who gets elected as long as they retain their influence!
Any politician who has accepted money in order to get elected and is later lobbied by that industry must feel obligated to give the industry’s view point a lot of consideration at the very least. There were over 1000 lobbyists working on the Medicare Part D plan, representing the insurance/drug interests in that matter. Guess how many were working back there to represent what I think and want! That’s right - zip! So who is the good senator/representative going to be most concerned about? That’s right again - and it’s not me!
Now, how do we eliminate this patently non democratic influence in what is supposedly our congress? Public financing of campaigns would be a nice start but is complicated by the free speech clause. This is a matter which would ultimately be decided in the supreme court and this stacked court might well see any restriction as unconstitutional. It should be noted that there are limitations on free speech as shown by the liable laws and the fact you cannot yell "fire" in a crowded theater unless there is a fire!
Another factor to consider would be that the constitutional guarantee extends to citizens of the United States. I see nothing in the constitution that defines multinational corporate conglomerates, big unions, think tanks, or any other kind of organization as a "citizen." It is my belief that limiting the "rights" of these entities might well stand up to a constitutional challenge.
None of this precludes a rich person from running TV adds or other advertising to promote or denigrate any one person or party they wish. I don’t personally have an answer to that and I’m not wanting to amend the US constitution for anything other than to eliminate the electoral college, our biggest archaic monstrosity! However, any advertising done by swift boaters would either be done by them as a collection of individuals, and therefore subject to slander suits personally, or it would not be done.
I don’t know if these are the answers, part of the answer, completely off base or what but I do know that we need to return the congress to the people or risk losing our democratic republic as we have known it. The average Joe just cannot bring the money to the table to be represented by his supposed representative or senator and the system has been totally corrupted by money!
If you have thoughts on this, share them with me!


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One way to get around the free speech issue is to set up a system where each taxpayer would be obligated to contribute X amt of dollars on their tax return. They could, however, designate which party they wanted the money applied to. That way, one would not feel as though their money was going to support a party whose beliefs they did not support. Maybe $10 would be a fair amt. I would certainly be willing to spend $10 if I could be assured that whoever gets into office is not beholding to any special interest group.
Thanks for the comment! The only thing the electoral college applies to is the president, and the college itself doesn't come into play within the state. There have only been about three times in our history when the person who got the popular vote didn't win the college as well. I believe more people would be more interested in voting if they knew their vote actually counted to the person for whom they cast it.
But even with the college, the densely populated areas in a state will always control who get the vote for the state. And I guess that's OK as the president represents people and not acres.
When our country was new it was impossible for most of the people to know the candidates but they could know the electors. Today that is reversed as I've never voted for an elector whom I knew but the candidates are well known to everyone. I feel the electoral college is an anachronism and has served it's time!
However, that is really a side issue as we need to improve the election process for senators and representatives which doesn't relate to the electoral college. That's where we need to curtail the investment of special interests. It would be nice to have someone in Washington DC that was working for me instead of special interests!
thanks for the comment! I'd be happy to contribute a hundred dollars toward elections if it would provide us a congress that was not purchased and owned by the various big moneyed special interest groups!
I really don't think anything is going to be done about this but I'll keep on asking through my lifetime and maybe someday something will change!
On the other points, I agree with you. It seems the fix is in.
I guess the thing balances out then cause in Idaho you never want to vote Democrat if you want your voice to count. Idaho has not gone Democratic since Johnson. There is talk of forcing independents to choose a party of they want to vote in the primary and I can assure you that I'll be a registered Republican then as I want a say in who is elected. By the same token there are now "RINOs" in Idaho or so some of the pure right wing says. Republicans In Name Only. The two wings of the Republican party dominate politics.
The thing in Texas had nothing directly to do with the Electoral College. It had a lot to do with getting the state legislature controlled by Republicans and therefore, and overall stronger Republican voice. But in an election, if 50% + 1 vote went for the Democratic candidate for president, all of the electors from Texas would then be those committed to the Democratic party, regardless of other power in the state.
The Electoral College only votes for the president and rarely votes any different than the popular vote. The Gore/Bush vote was one of, I believe, three exceptions in history.
Thanks for your comments and opinion. It is appreciated!
What are you trying to say? My comments on your poem were made in that thread and have, as far as I can tell, nothing to do with this thread. And, rest assured, I read them carefully.
thanks for commenting!
Connie,
Thanks for the comment! I've done some research and, at this time, illegal immigrants cannot draw Social Security benefits. This is not to say they are not getting welfare or other taxpayer paid services but to get Social Security, one must be in this country legally, have paid into the system for a certain number of quarters and meet the age requirements.
I agree we need to take care of our own citizens first!
Tina,
I like your truth "any child who is rich can grow up to be president!"
I do like the idea of being able to choose President and Vice President from different parties if desired. I'm just not all that convinced that either/or is a fair choice. Some individual politicians are more qualified for positions than others, and this is where I have a problem and would like to choose "the person" rather than "the party".
I will be checking in on your opinions from now on. I'm sure I will learn a lot more as far as the 'particulars' go concerning the workings of politics as perceived by the majority.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting! I, like you, would prefer to pick the person over the party. There are several things I feel must be done before the process of electing people at all levels of government is fully in the informed hands of the electorate.
These are just a few and need elaboration.
Interesting set of ideas! Why couldn't the president be the figurehead? Actually, we need some one at the top when it comes to foreign affairs. On the eligible to vote being eligible to be elected I come up short, an eighteen year old can vote but I don't want any eighteen year old representing me or being the president! Would you really? I don't know how you'd prohibit electioneering when we have the right to free speech, can you explain? I feel that campaigns should be much shorter and cheaper so that virtually anyone could run. Outlaw lobbying sounds wonderful but again how can you justify that with free speech?
Why don't you write an article on what you've just written here and flesh these ideas out more?