Is John McCain in the pocket of Big Pedophile?

I'm thinking that these people really do have enough time to bury themselves before election day rolls around.

Sick stuff from the McCain camp.

Good for you, every one should call any station they see running this, write your local paper explaining the lie, and the absolute sleaze of McCain, and myself, I figure it's going to take a little more cash to counter all these constant lies, so I sent Obama another check. I'd like to see this be a real fundraiser for Obama. People should be madder than hell. I can't remember a sleazier ad in my 54 years.

One can talk to a kid about stranger danger without introducing sex ed in kindergarten.

Marilyn,
And whom will give the kid that talk? Parents? We all know that many parents do NOT have this talk with their children, particularly if one of them is the abuser. Their religious leader? Don't get me started on the amount of pedophelia in the churches. Teaching kids about inappropriate touching in kindergarten is a perfect forum for it to be taught in a non-threatening way.

This attack on Obama for wanting nothing more than to protect America's children is nothing shy of an abomination. Any respect I had for him just flew right out the window, and I used to like the man. This attack seals the deal for me. In my eyes, and in the eyes of many undecided voters, this is just too low a blow.

Right out of a NAMBLA think tank.

Marilyn,

While I don't believe it is necessary to overload any child with information, I also believe that it is wrong to deny any child honest answers to their questions regardless of age or ones discomfort with the subject matter.

That does not mean that one needs to tell a child all the details of human sexuality just because they as "where did I come from" when the answer is "you came from Buffalo New York!" Find what they are really asking and give them honesty.

You would deny all information from kindergartners but I can tell you from personal knowledge, that persons that age have a curiosity about sex and gender and will explore it regardless of what you tell them or refrain from telling them. I started school at six and knew full well where babies came from and just how a girl got pregnant, before I started school. It all came from other kids I knew, some of which were a year or two older and some fo which were just my age.

We all saw animals engaging in sexual behavior and it is ridiculous to think that kindergartners don't recognize that that behavior is reflected in humans as well. When you deny them simple answers, they will learn far more from undesirable sources.

When I asked my father about certain things the answer I received was "That's something you'll learn about when you get older!" I immediately knew it was about sex and he didn't want to talk about it! However, I could always count on friends to have an answer.

I recall when I was approaching my teens and a group of us were discussing sex, one boy, who had been taught by his parents started explaining things in correct terminology. He had the rest of us rolling on the grass in laughter because we'd never actually heard someone telling about it in those terms! We all had the same information, just different terminology.

So for my part, I believe in honest answers at any age. Just limit the details to what the child can understand. And don't underestimate the child's capacity for understanding. Your discomfort is not his or her limitation!

What they are talking about is "age appropriate" sex education which for a kindergartner would be education about stranger danger and inappropriate touching - really important stuff as kids at that age are quite vulnerable.

There's a lot you can teach little kids if you know how to teach.

I don't know if you can trick them into learning too much biology at that age.

I think they do need to have it what with the rash of fifth graders being charged with sexual assault they should at least know what it is they are being hauled out of school for.

Luckily, tonight on CBS EVENING NEWS, Katie Couric, showed how false this ad really is!
Finally, the media is helping to LEVEL the playing field.

Yeah. We learned about Stranger Danger, and even parent and relative danger, in Kindergarten and Grade 1 here. If kids don't know that they can stand up for themselves, there are going to be a lot more victims around. Shame on McCain.

The McCain add a long with others I have seen on TV lately are the worse form of "Rove" politics I can ever remember seeing aired in my life. And they carry McCain saying he approves them.

Talk about dirty politics he has no shame in what he will do to be elected president.

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I try to stay out of politics. But I will give you a 10

Sex is a fact of living. Children need to know what is appropriate touching and what is not. Pedophiles are abundant and pervasive. I really think that we would be dealing with fewer cases of sexual abuse of children if they knew that their trusted relative or adult was doing something that is not accepted. This type of campaigning is ridiculous and pathetic. McCain needs to rethink this outrageous advertisement. It is difficult to stomach these tactics. It is even worse than the ridiculous pig with lipstick crap. Phoney baloney indignation. We could all try to be truthful and adult for a change.

My kids learned this from a very young age in school, kindergarten. It protects them like nothing else will.

Those who live with their head in the sand, die with a face full of sand. McCain.

What a truly idiotic video from the McCain camp. Only the most idiotic right wing of all Republicans would approve of this ad.

Who writes this stuff?

I UNDERSTAND TEACHING KIDS ABOUT STRANGERS BUT TEACHING 5 YEAR OLDS ABOUT INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL ACTS IS WELL....INAPPROPRIATE

Obama didn't write or sponsor this bill, and it didn't pass anyway. This is just more wingnut bullshit.

Okay, when people started talking about this ad yesterday, I went with the feeling that Obama had voted for some "good touch/ bad touch" education. My kids got those lessons in HeadStart BEFORE they were 5 years old. It didn't damage them, it made them aware that not all adults are good people, which was fine with me. By the time they were 5, they already knew where babies came from because a neighbor of ours had given birth and they asked me questions then.

They were not damaged by having this info. They're both in their 20's now and have not reproduced or suffered from STD's. They were not damaged learning info that they needed to live safely and in good health.

The ad is disgusting, purposely deceptive, and only a morally bankrupt person/party would run it.

I don't know if you are serious with the title, or going for sensational. It's a good idea to consider the Republican Party's connections to Bohemian Grove, and consider the question a possibility.

Regarding this: While I don't believe it is necessary to overload any child with information, I also believe that it is wrong to deny any child honest answers to their questions regardless of age or ones discomfort with the subject matter. If we wait until a child ask a question, it is probably too late. How many children would think to ask about sexual predators before having met one?

Agreed, Kathryn!

My children knew where babies come from by age seven. (The book A Child is Born is an excellent resource.) I used it when my daughter was seven; I was pregnant with her little brother. When he was about seven, one of his teachers was pregnant and questions arose. I pulled out the book again, and we had a chat. "Age appropriate" is anything the child is capable of understanding - honest, simple, straightforward answers. It is never age inappropriate to teach a child about "inappropriate touching."

I WISH the schools didn't have to deal with these topics, but too many parents stick their heads in the sand and avoid having this kind of talk with their own children. It should be the parents' job.

What really angered me was when my son came home in Kindergarten with a worksheet on the "lifecycle of a chicken." Oh, I didn't mind the topic - but if you're going to open up the topic, teach it correctly. Do NOT tell my child that it goes like this: Hen lays egg. Egg hatches to reveal chick. Chick grows up to be a hen. Hen lays egg...

For the love of all that's holy, WHERE is the rooster (the FATHER) in all this?? Either leave it for Fifth Grade Biology, or cover the subject matter accurately. That's all I ask.

My children started early sexual education in kindergarten and I had no objection. Each year at the beginning of the year they sent home a packet which outlined what they were going to cover that year and a signature required form that I allowed her to participate. If I found that I didn't want her to participate, I could sign her and him out of it. I don't think it's too early, as long as it is taught in an age appropriate manner. This ad is just wrong. Thanks for sharing and peace.

They are doing it because they are loosing and they know it. Plain and simple. I never believed it for a second and last night on the news they actually did a segment where they pointed out the actual fact of every one of the McCain's claims against Obama. Shameless if you ask me.

That ads are getting so old. I hope the election is over soon.

For once I'm happy that I live in a state so red nobody bothers with us.

I'm glad Katie Couric set the record straight--so did Whoopie on the View. Of course, whenever that happens, the Replublicans say that Obama is being elected in the media--or getting more than his share of media coverage. The media wouldn't have to say anything about it if it hadn't been put out in a McCain ad.

i think kindergarten is too young for a child to learn about sex education i think the right age is nine

thanks for sharing

Where are the parents in this? oh... they get the 'opt out' plan. How about make it the 'opt in' plan instead? (see how unpopular it really is)

McCain is right on this issue. Kindergarten is too young.

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I don't think it's in the child's interest to be taught the "government sanctioned" lecture on sex to kindergarteners. I guarantee this is a bad policy, and will cause more harm than help, toward it's goal. I think the ad was correct, and Obama's defense of it is offensive. It is an affront to parents, and possibly an "abuse" of the very children it claims to be "protecting."

Teachers are not parents. They can warn children about "not talking to strangers," but if they want to get specific about sexual abuse, that is not something a kindergartener is able to understand. I'm sure everyone has different ideas about this topic, but I wrote this before reading any of the comments.

I'll say this much: McCain's ad was no "slander" of Obama, and it wasn't a lie. "Sex Ed" is inappropriate for children in kindergarten, even if it's called "pedophile prevention."

Oh this is PRICELESS!!! Don H thinks Kindergarten is too early to teach children about INNAPPROPRIATE TOUCHING!!!

I wonder why that is DON!

When you're soft on PEDOPHILIA, PEDOPHILIA is soft ON YOUUUUUU!

Christopher, would you be a little more comfortable if we didn't refer to it as "sexual education"? Does it give you the giggles or something?

You all might reconsider the road you are going down trying to defend this disgusting distortive ad.

Don H Where are the parents in this? oh... they get the 'opt out' plan. How about make it the 'opt in' plan instead? (see how unpopular it really is)

McCain is right on this issue. Kindergarten is too young.

You can never reinforce enough the ways and by who children are protected from sexual predators Don. Do you REALLY think that schools shouldn't teach children that adults playing with the private parts is not ok? Does that ruin the ratio for you?

Francis -- do you depend on the government to do everything for you? You sound pathetic.

Parents should teach their children these things, not the schools.

There's a reason why this ad was made... I am not the only person who agrees with McCain.

Bill, you are right on target.

I've heard Obama's defense on this and it doesn't hold water. That he wants to teach kids the dangers of sexual predators. How do you explain sexual predators without explaining sex to them? I would not want any school to be teaching my 5 year old sex ed - that's my job as a parent.

Andrea L. - "How do you explain sexual predators without explaining sex to them? "

Last I knew, that was done by using terms like "private parts" and only explaining to children that adults touching, or trying to touch, or who talked about touching the child's private parts, or talked about the child touching the adult's private parts, that this was so seriously inappropriate that the child should try to get away from that adult and immediately report the behavior to other adults.

Please note that there is nothing sexually explicit in this description.

As for parenting; Yes. The problem is that not all parents teach their children about this; and of course an incestuous parent would not, eh?

So one result of having this taught in schools is that it provides an open door mechanism for children who may be in a sexually abusive situation to be rescued.

This is the job of parents. Period. The more people try to push responsibility onto the schools, the less parent do. This is wrong. You can teach your children whatever you think is appropriate. "Comprehensive Sex Education" for k-12 is wrong. I'll tell my own children about sex, not his school teacher. Reading, Writing and Arithmetic that is what should be taught in schools.

Sorry for the generic comment, but I have to catch up on my emails. Giving you a 10 with my comment.

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