Severus Snape: Friend or Foe? (Comments 551-900)

Snape is a friend because he and Dumbledore planned the whole entire death scene. Dumbledore is an animagus and was transformed into a Phenox at the end of the last book. He isn't really dead, but Snape had to kill him because of the covenant that he made to get in good with Voldemort. Anyway, I think that it will be revealed in the "Deathly Hallows" that Snape is a friend and that Dumbledore's death was part of the plan.

In answer to question one on Snape is a friend, if you had read Chapter Two of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, you would have the answer. Snape says that he only saw greedy and unworthy Quirrel attempting to steal the stone for himself.
I think that Snape is either a foe or before the beginning he was put under such an Imperious curse that by the time it was lifted, he did not remember himself being put under the curse to join Voldemort, but as a faithful lifelong servant from which position he wished not to withdraw.

after the begining of half blood prince, I knew he was a foe...but I think Snape used to like harry's mother, that's why he had such a problem with james. Harry is in his father's likeness, but will protect harry for his mothers sake.

im going with undecided. snapes done good and snapes done bad. but bren s. had something going there that i've never touched upon

I totally agree with Kim P. Snape is BAD!
1) Snape does not appear at Voldemorts return because they don't want to blow the cover
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I think Snape is a friend. Dumbledore would not have trusted him without good reason, and I think that Dumbledore knew he was dying. There is no way anyone could have the injury that Dumbledore had without it killing them eventually. Even the Unbreakable Vow was part of Snape's cover - it would have been suspicious if he hadn't done it.

SNAPE IS A FRIEND!
I definitely agree with bren s. I just can't believe that Dumbledore would be so naiive as to put his trust in a villain. Dumbledore trusts Snape for good reason, and I believe Dumbledore and Snape planned the death scene to show Snape's "allegiance" to Voldemort. Snape will help Harry overthrow Voldemort.
I also agree that Dumbledore is an animagus, and that his animal is a Phoenix. He can be killed, but he will rise from his ashes and live again, just as a Phonenix does.

Harry is the last horcrux (been awhile since I last read the half blood prince so forigve me if I type-o on horcux). Harry will die in the last book since his death will be the only way to rid Voldemart once and for all. Snape is evil and Snape is the only person who knows that Harry is the final Horcrux. Snapes vow is to protect Harry to keep Voldemart alive..

I believe he is a friend,only because he seems like a bad guy but there are times when he shows he has compassion.And i think in this last book he'll show his greatest compassion of helping Harry defeat Voldermont.

It's very hard to decide when there's magic involved. It's not very simple to answer. He could have been under the Imperious curse or it may not have been Snape at all. As for wanting to help Malfoy, he might have just wanted to know what he was really up to so he could tip off Dumbledore, but he might just have wanted to help. Or Dumbledore told him to help Malfoy because he knew Malfoy coudn't pull off killing him. Enough from book 6 cuz some people are looking at this when they haven't read it yet for some reason... luv Bren's, it tells why he's in love with Pheonixes and was okay with Black, Potter, and the betraying rat who doesn't deserve his own name being registered animagus. He's one himself. I've thought about it, but I never really thought about it deeply like you with the whole conspiracy theory. I'm siding with Snape being okay, but not looking too hot right now.

jared b.- u r morbid... but might jus be true. but wouldnt u know if u had part of somebody else insdie of u?
im liking the animagus thing- haveing him as a pheonix explains why he has lived for so long.

but i just dont think its possible. they had his body, and fawkes LEFT after the funeral(FUNERAL=DEAD BODY=DEAD, sry guys) dumbledore would not have left, he would have come to help harry

I'm curious, but did anyone possibly step back from the whole story and look at the practicality and simplicity of things?

Why did Snape kill Dumbledore?

The original actor who played Dumbledore died. Perhaps JK wanted to keep things true to the original actor, and said, "Oh! No more Dumby!" Anyone think of that? No secret plan, no divine nature?

And sticking with that thought, I disagree that Dumbledore will come back. If the original actor is gone, can't exactly dig him up, now can we?

If anyone is coming back, I'm saying that Sirius will.

So my final vote? Dunno. I'm teetering towards foe, but hey. Who knows. But I still don't think that there was any divine plan as to why Snape killed Dumby. He just did.

i used to think snape was evil. until i read the theories in mugglenet.com new book. they have me convinced. i think at the end when snape looked at dumbledore with hatred and revulsion or whatever it was in his eyes it was toward himself for doing what he was about to do. i think he and dumbledore planned it all. i hate snape very much and wanted to hate him just as much as harry does but i am convinced snape is good now. and yes, i think he loved lilly. give the mugglenet.com book a read before the 7th book. it will defintely wet ur wistle!

I am kind of thinking that snape is evil, as bad as it is i think Dumbledore is dead.

Ally. Not a foe, but certainly not a friend.

Like many people, I agree that while Dumbledore can certainly make mistakes, this was not one of them. I think that Snape sees some of himself in Draco (pulled to the dark side, but not yet one of them) and he and Dumbledore worked this out to keep Draco from making that last, irrevocable move toward evil. Dumbledore may have known that drinking the liquid would kill him and he asked for Snape because he knew that he didn't have time and they would have to force a confrontation...he revived on seeing the dark mark out of fear for his students and because he knew he didn't have to hold on much longer.

I would like to point out that upon further reading, Snape did not use an unforgivable curse on Dumbledore. He said the words, but the effect was not the same as any other time Aveda Kedavra has been used. Dumbledore was not enveloped in green light as he dropped dead...sparks flew and he was knocked off the tower. Snape doesn't, couldn't, hate Dumbledore enough to use an unforgivable curse on him. Dumbledore is the one person who truly, completely, believes in him and I think the hatred and raw emotion on Snape's face is because he couldn't do what he needed to, what he'd promised Dumbledore, and if Voldemort and the deatheaters look closely instead of crowing over Dumbledore's death they will see that discrepancy. He has to feel that not only has he blackened his name, the shreds of his honor, forever...he wasn't even able to do it right.

However, he hates Harry. Not only does Harry seem to represent all that he despised in James it must seem like Harry is a lucky braggart when it's Snape who has to live as a double agent, trusted by no one, Snape who has to get his hands dirty and do things he loathes, pretend to be an ally to people he hates and wonder if he's really like them after all. Harry gets all the glory and Snape does all the work. And, he has to put up with Harry's scorn on top of it. It's interesting how much nastier Snape has gotten once Voldemort came back. Piling grief on Harry is not only a relief for the bile and stress, but it's one that both Voldemort and Dumbledore will be fine with. It just might be the only way Snape has to vent his spleen. (Not that it makes it right)

Snape is the best and most interesting character in the book and I'm curious to see how it works out in the last one.

If JKR said Harry's eyes are important, then that's due to the fact that Harry is exactly like his father - except his eyes, which are his mother's. Which supports my theory that Snape loved Lily - he'll be forced to make a choice, he'll see Lily's eyes in Harry, and he'll make the right one.

I think the last book might be more about Severus Snape than Harry Potter.

i think rowling's a genius in the way she's crafted this series, one book convincing you snape's evil, the next good. if you prooftext snape's friendly portrayals with his evil ones, i'd be they come out even. this is larger than the sum of the parts. snape's a judas, no doubt about it. the question has been which side has been a double agent for, and i think given the outcome of the last installment it should be readily evident which side he's employed by. as for wild theories about a dumbledore resurrection?! hmm, it would be interesting, but pulling it off as a writer would be even more so.

Snape was never a friend. He's always just been a spy. Why else would he have done what he did in the sixth book. If he was a friend he wouldn't have done that.

Oh. And Liz, Jared could very well be right.

Harry has this scar, he survived the attack on his family, he always knows when Voldy is near because the scar burns. And Voldy might well know that Harry is near, because when the scar is burning, it's calling out to Voldy like the Ring did to the Wraiths in LotR.

And why did he survive in the first place!?

Why? What made HIM so special? Maybe he wasn't MEANT to die! Maybe Voldy knew he was growing weak, so he sealed off the last of him in Harry, for him to come get later like leftovers!

Uhh no. snape is a friend! Dumbledore and Snape had an agreement to, no matter what, have snape stay undercover! durrrrr. dumbledore wouldnt trust snape unless he knew, without a doubt, he was trustworthy!

if you had read the half blood prince snape killed Dumbledore meaning he is bad ,and if they planed it why would they let bill almost die and the death eaters put hagreds house on fire? why

I am a firm believer that Severus Snape is good and I am a huge supporter of him. I believe that he had his reasons that the he is Dumbledore's man through and through. I believe he and Dumbledore had come to an agreement that if something did not go a certain way, Severus would have to do what he did. I think he was hurt more by having to do the deed and lose his most trusted friend. He needs to spy in order to help Harry later on. I will be supporting Severus Snape until the end! I really hope in the last book, Severus and Harry will get come to a mutual understanding. There is so much animosity between them and I truly believe that Severus Snape was always trying to protect Harry and teach him - Harry was just stubborn and not so easy to teach, especially if everyone coddles him.

If Dumbledore is really still alive, then Rowlings is borrowing from Lord of the Rings and Gandalf's 'death' Somehow it would be a much better conclusion if Snape came out being a good guy, because Rowling's made him so GRAY.
I hated that she had to resort to killing off her characters in Goblet of Fire and following books. She should stick to the fascinating character development that were so enticing throughout the series: Mad Eye Moody (althouth only an imposter) was a great addition to the series. Gilderoy Lockhart ditto (although the movie version was weak there). And we all love to hate Lucius and Drco, although they are REALLY evil at the end of book six. Maybe a bit of shock should come in the form of discrediting those we have trusted...Prof McG? Ron? Ron's mom? Hermione's dad? It would be more interesting than 'exit stage left PERMANENTLY'
I don't think Snape is a friend...it takes to much imagination to pull that off.

Harry is stronger because of Snape. I've always viewed Snapes' manner as analogous to a Drill Instructor. Anyone who has served will tell you that everyone hates their DI, but may later owe his life to the relentless pushing that he provided. Yes Snape is tougher on Harry, and yes he favors Slytherin in competitions etc. But again to use a military analogy, Navy men favor Navy men etc.Like any adolescent, Harry needs structure and challenges and boundaries. An adoring world has negative effects on one's character - heck, ask any NBA player, or Miss USA ;-). Snape expresses natural human emotions, he is not perfect, but because of him Harry is sharper, stronger, and has more humility. In sum, I think Snape is more Spartan than friend or foe, and whether or not he has Harry's best interests at heart, Harry is better because of the challenges Snape has provided.

I haven't read every single comment on here, but has anyone mentioned the possibility that the potion that Dumbledore drank in the cave somehow made him immune to the death spell Snape used against him? That's what I thought when I first read of the "death." I definitely believe Dumbledore will come back in the end. But then again, I hoped and hoped that Sirius would also come back, but he hasn't . . . yet! I still lean toward the majority that believes Snape will end up being on the good side. Dumbledore couldn't have been wrong!

snape is both. he doesnt want to admit it but he is looking out for harry and in all the books he does something for him. it shows even more in harry potter and the half blood prince. snape "killing" dumbledore was to get in with voldemort so he can protect harry while still mantaing hes reputation as the bad guy.

SNAPE IS A FRIEND ! Dumbledor begs Snape right before he is killed, "Severus please". He is not begging for his life, but Malfoy's. He doesn't want Malfoy to be the one that killed him and have him ruined forever. He knew about Snape's unbreakable promise because Snape told him about it, and Snape was put in a position where he had to swear the vow or totally blow his cover.

Dumbledor is also not an animagus - if he was there would have been no body to bury. Dumbledor left a body that was seen by many people, if he was an animagus, he would have just turned into the animal (like peter petigrew).

The only person that I can think of that might be killed off is Harry. Can't have someone resurrecting JK Rowlings books if the main character is gone, now can they?

I will never believe that Harry is a horacrux. Until I read the book and find out for sure, I refuse to believe he is. But did ANYONE consider that maybe Dumbledore himself is a horacrux??? Maybe that's why Draco and Snape were ordered to kill him. Maybe that's the reason that he became so powerful, and Voldemort feared of him. And maybe that explains his hand.
Yes, I think Snape is evil. I believe everything he told to Narcissa during that chapter with the Unbreakable Vow. But who knows, maybe he'll have an ulterior motive and end up betraying both Harry and Voldemort. Maybe he wants to finish off Dumbledore AND Voldemort, for reasons everyone will guess at but no one will expect.
I also believe that everyone is right in the aspect that he did have a crush on Harry's mother. It's probably half the reason he hated James so much. He hates Harry because in him he sees the man that made his life a living hell, and the women that ignored him and married the man who made his life a living hell.
Why does everyone think the death scene was staged? Honestly, I think the reason Dumbledore was acting the way he did with Draco and Snape was that he knew Draco didn't have it in him to kill, and Dumbledore thought Snape didn't either. And maybe a part of Snape didn't, which is why he probably only sent out sparks and not a full blast. A part of him, against his will, started to trust Dumbledore.
It's like Snape said, Dumbledore's weakness is his ability to trust people too much.
I agree that his hand would have eventually killed him off though, and I totally support the idea that he's like the Pheonix and will rise again from the ashes. Maybe he'll rise hundreds of years later, after everyone in the story has moved on, but I do believe a powerful wizard like him will come back.

lot of wishful thinking here...
snapes not just bad, he is severly evil...and sinful, he loves the dark arts more than anything...i believe he hates james for sooo many reasons...not only for the bullying...not only for marrying lilly...wich snape had a love hate relationship with...
i believe he told dracos mothr the truth in hbp, and he hates dumbledor for being an naive old man, and holding him back...
snape killed dumbledor when dumbledor was of his guard, dumbledor died for his mistake, and he has told us again and gain that even he the wisest of wisards do make mistakes, i do not believe harry dies...then again this may just be my own wishfull thinking, there are alot of us here on this board...
sure would be great to have siriurs,dumbledor,james and lilly all back and alive again...but then you should look up some childish happy ending storybook...thats not harry p.
i think its tme harry grows up..faces its not a happy happy world where ppl come back to life, and goes on, he has a job to do, find the soulthingymajiggys destroy them...kill mr bad guy then go home and try to make a decent life for himself...end of story...

I think Snape is not evil or any thing like that,because he brobably had some stuff happen to him that happend toHarry. Like the time Harry's parant's got murderd by Voldemort or another dark wizard. So Snape probably is dissapointed.

Wow, hello I'm joining the discussion. I'm very passionate about this subject. From the first time I read Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone I've thought he was a horrible and cruel man. Lets face it he isnt very likable...I've read the Snape is friend/foe at the top and I have to agree/add to them.

Friend.
1. Why did snape protect Harry From Quirrell? Dumbledore states that James saved Snapes life once...and now Snape has repaid the favor. "He can go on happily hating the memory of James" is how Dumbledore(Rowling) puts it in the book. Which would make sense.
2. Why didn't Snape go to the graveyard immediately upon being summoned by Voldemort? A. you cannot apparate/disapparate on the Hogwarts grounds (Stated several times in the books) If he's evil and really working for Voldemort but pretending to work for Dumbledore he cant just leave without explination. It would blow his cover...now my question is...why wasnt he punished from Voldemort for not returning right away like everyone else was??
3.In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, why did Snape alert the Order of the Phoenix that Harry was facing danger at the ministry? Well...I'm not sure I have a response for this one...
4.4. In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, why did Snape agree to teach Harry Occulmency? He states in the kitchen of Grimmauld place he doesnt have a choice, it isnt like he jumped for the job. He is probably one of the only teachers aside from Dumbledore who can do it. And we all know Dumbledore was "avoiding" Harry. My question for this question...How do you know he wasnt "Opening" Harry's mind a bit further for these dreams? (Ron/Rowling also state)
5.Dumbledore tells Harry he trusts Snape in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix and again it is implied in Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. Would Dumbledore, the most powerful wizard of his time, misplace his trust in Snape? Dumbledore states that he's an old man that makes foolish mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes even a powerful brilliant wizard. I think that there is a missing peice of that puzzle. Something that comes out in 7...why dumbledore trusts Snape...but for now I still think evil.
6.Why does Snape spare Harry's life in Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince? DUH!! Voldemort keeps saying "The boy is mine" "Leave the boy for me" If Snape did kill Harry Voldemort wouldnt be happy because he cant fulfill his prophecy...Snape's name isnt in the Prophecy...

Foe
1.Beginning with Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Snape displays a dislike of Harry. Is a childhood grudge against his father reason enough to hate Harry or is it something more? I think the childhood grudge is a deep part of it. Harry looks exactly like his father...(Other than the eyes of course) something Snape now has to see everyday and remember the childhood he'd never go back to? Then working for Voldemort would make him hate Harry even more...the child that defeated the dark lord?
2.Why was Snape so set on expelling Harry from Hogwarts in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets? Again I think just mostly the whole he wouldnt have to look at Harry and remember James anymore. Plus Harry wouldnt be so protected if he wasnt at Hogwarts anymore...and then Tom Riddle would have been brought back full force by the life of Ginny Weasley...
3. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, what were Snape and Karkaroff conspiring about?... Um...the dark mark....why its growing stronger....do they have anything to worry about?
4.Knowing the danger Harry faced, why did Snape continue to goad Sirius in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix? Because the childhood grudge never left...they've always hated each other Sirius(Rowling) states "Snape and James hated each other the moment they laid eyes on each other...Snape envied the dark arts something James loathed and James was everything Snape wanted to be: handsome, smart, funny, a quidditch player...etc."
5. In Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, what were Snape's motives for his Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa? I've heard people state that they think Snape was in love with Lilly Evans/Potter...but personally I think he's in love with Narcissa...he was happy to see her...he protects her son....even tho he's a git!

So all in all I think my assumption is he's bad. All things point towards... it...he's even hiding the bad guy in his house in book 6!! If he were truly on Dumbledore's side he should have turned Wormtail in...but it wouldnt make a difference now that Sirius is gone :'( Part of me wishes that I could say he is good. I like the character...just as I like Draco's character...but all in all...the conclusion is bad.

Did anyone notice this quote from the top of this page?

"At Borders, we're especially curious about one character, sure to play a central role in Harry's final year at Hogwarts."

Whoever wrote that must not have read the Half Blood Prince. At the end, he tells Ron and Hermione that he is not going back.

On the topic though, I do believe Snape is a friend. He had many chances to kill Harry, and never did. I do believe Dumbledore and Snape had a plan. I don't know if Dumbledore will actually come back physically, but in all of the books, they have the portraits of the Headmasters/mistresses who are there to assist the current Headmaster/mistress. And those who did great things were allowed more than one portrait that they could move between. I think Dumbledore will manifest in this way to help Harry with the last of the horcruxes.

Petrino- You say Dumbledore wasn't on his guard. How? If anything he was more on guard. He removed all the safeguards so he could rush to the castle. If anything, he was more on guard than not. And I am pretty sure Harry accepted a long time ago he doesn't live in a happy world at all.

Sorry to disagree with you ben S. but its apparent Dumbledore is dead. He isnt coming back. Not to mention I highly doubt that Dumbledore is an Unregistered Animagus...Hermione(rowling) state that the list of registered Animagus is VERY small and that Professor McGonagall is on there...I think she would have mentioned Dumbledore being on the list...

Janet M. You are very correct, besides Professor McGonagall states that because of Dumbldore's death Hogwarts may not even re-open.

Acacia C ~ A friend of mine actually feels that Dumbledore made snape do it...Sounds weird yeah...but in the Cave dumbledore tells Harry no matter what this potion does to me MAKE me drink it do you understand me? And before the cave the only way Harry can go is if he PROMISED to do everything he was told. So my friend thinks that Snape told Dumbledore about the unbreakable vow and Dumbledore said do it. But I dont know...it wouldnt have been so suspicious if he didnt do the vow...Bellatrix even thought he wouldnt...which brings me to the thought of him being bad again...because he didnt have to make the vow...but he did..knowing what laid ahead...knowing he'd die if he didnt fulfill the vow...so he saved his own greasy head!

I happen to think Dumbledore will have a will or some sort of magic preventing the school from closing. Fanciful idea here: A will which stipulates Harry returns as the DADA professor. Interesting, right? He'd be the youngest, he'd have to register as a full wizard on his 17th birthday, and it's the one thing Voldemort ever wanted but didn't get (besides killing Harry).

Snape is defintely a friend. Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard in the entire world. I seriously doubt that he would misplace his trust. I think that Dumbledore could have fought off Snape if he really wanted to. Make no doubt, there was a plan in place. What I don't know, but there was a plan in place!

Dumbledore couldnt fight Snape because he didnt have a wand...

My Borders colleagues and I can debate the question for hours but I'm firmly settled in the "friend" camp. Snape may not be a nice man but I believe he will be pivotal to Harry's success destroying Voldemort.

He killed Dumbledore. I think jkr wanted it that way. It makes a good story. And it angers readers, like me, but it makes them want to read it all the more. Remember in the book dumbledore said that he doesnt make mistakes often but that when he does, the mistakes he does make are BIG ones. That mistake, which cost him his life is SNAPE.

Also, Wilder B brought up fawkes. Why didnt fawkes show up to help dumbledore when he was so weak, but had showed up in the past to help Harry.

Remember though, dumbledore can still show up in paintings to help guide Harry. If he doesn't that will be a major let down and blooper in the book, and I will be disappointed. Why? all the other paintings spoke and gave out advice and whatnot.

I say foe,because Snape killed Dumbledore. I like how that ened because it makes readers sad. They then will want to read the next book and see if Dumbledore comes back or if he is long gone. No one knows for sure yet but i have a feeling secerts will spill in the next bok comeing up.

I'm not sure where I stand on the Snape is evil front. I think I'm leaning more toward evil, but I don't want to take a definitive stand as of yet.

I also don't think that Harry will be a horcrux, because if he is, then he's destined to die. Granted, there is some evidence that could prove Harry to be a horcrux (the scar, the whole "Harry can feel when Voldemort is near" thing), but if he is then he's destined to die, and I think that makes a horribly anti-climactic ending to a great book series, and for some reason, I think Rowling would like to make this one REALLY count. The only reason I can think of for her killing Harry off would be so that she wouldn't be hassled to write more books for the series, and personally I wouldn't blame her for putting that kind of finality into the ending of the series. I wouldn't want to be poked and prodded to keep writing on a series I felt to be finished.

But at any rate, I don't think Snape is a friend, although don't quote me on that. I don't believe (or don't want to believe) that Harry is a horcrux, for the one reason that it would make for flat and horribly anti-climactic literature. So far these are my only theories/generalizations, but I'm still brainstorming!

And I do like some of the theories above me: they're quite intriguing!! :-D

I think that Snape is good. I agree with what many people say that Dumbledore is an Animagus. I don't see a reason of why Snape would kill Dumbledore when he could of throughout the other books. I think it is just to show that he is being "loyal" to Voldemort. I also think that Harry is the last Horcrux because he has to collect them all, but yet Voldemort does not die, so that leaves the logical explanation that Harry is the last Horcrux, and once he dies he'll take Voldemort with him!!!

He is a friend. Remember Hagrid telling Harry about overhearing a fight between Dumbledore and Snape, telling Snape that he did not care if he did not want to do it that he was to obey his orders. I think it was to tell him if need be to kill him to save Malfoy from he who must not be named. He is to stay and spy for the Order. Now that he is definately in the good graces of after killing him.

No, Dumbledore couldnt fight snape at the time he had no wand.

HOWEVER, if you will remember back in one of the book Harry had been trying to learn to do spells MENTALLY without a wand. Dumbledore could have fought back that way----> that is, if he hadn't just been poisoned and left weak.

As for the whole "Harry not coming back, Hogwarts not reopening" thing...

Hogwarts WILL reopen. Yes, parents will withdraw their children, thinking it isn't a safe place, but in actuality, it's the safest place.

The Ministry will see to it that it becomes a fortress in itself, and the children will all be safe. It's like...The show must go on. Dumby wouldn't want the school to close down after his death, and there will be some relization by someone of that fact, and McGonagall will open the school with the Ministry's protection.

As for Harry not coming back? Bull. He'll be back. Probably not at the beginning of the school year, but McGonagall is gonna come see him or something and talk h im into returning because they need him there for some reason. A beacon of light or something. A hope for the kids. Who knows.

All in all, Hogwarts will open, Harry will be back, and I hope Sirius, too.

Does anyone remember the phophecy? It stated one must kill the other. Thats why Snape was protecting Harry until Voldemort returned & why he stayed with Dumbledorefor so long. Once he knew Voldemort was back then he got rid of the only wizard Voldemort was afraid of, Dumbledore.
I hope that she doesn't kill off Harry, because even if Voldemort is killed in book seven they will still have lord knows how many horcruxes (Dumbledore said seven but as long as she wanted to keep writing it could be endless.) Voldemort made & couldn't as each one came about they could make more? Harry should become an Auror.

I think that Snape is a "friend" but was out of his league, so to speak, when he signed on to spy on Voldemort. I don't think that Dumbledore "planned" the death scene, but I think that he knew it was possible. He knew all along about Snape making the unbreakable vow, but never thought that it would go that far. In the tower at the end of book 6, while surrounded by several death eaters and weakened and without his wand, Dumbledore only showed fear or something like it when Snape entered, and said something like "Severus, please." It has been a while since I read the last book, so I hope that I remember the words correctly. Not long after that, after Harry chased Snape and fought several death eaters along the way, Harry called Snape a coward, and that was when Snape put up a fight, if you could call it that. He could have killed Harry but instead he held back and only defended himself. He also was very angry at the idea of being called a coward because he knew that he killed Dumbledore only to save himself. I think that Snape argued with Dumbledore earlier in the book, because he wanted out, he did not want to be in the position of saving his own life or killing Dumbledore. But that's what it came down to, and so to save himself he did what he had to do and then ran off with Voldemort's death eaters because he knew that no one else would understand. Fawkes left, and Dumbledore appeared in a portrait in the headmasters office, I do think that he is dead. That doesn't mean that he will be unable to help Harry in the next book. I wouldn't be surprised if Serius came back, though I don't think it too likely.

The school has to be reopened because if it isn't, then where is Harry going to go? It is a possibility that he could become an Auror, but I do believe that he is a Horcrux. The teachers will not allow the school to be closed, and Harry is the only hope now that Dumbledore is gone(maybe, I still think that he is an animagus).

I believe that on Harry's 17th Birthday that Aunt Petunia will show Harry the letter that Dumbledore left with him as a kid. First I would like to say Dumbledore is dead he has to be otherwise Snape would be dead since the final part of the Unbreakable Vow was to complete Draco's task if he could not which means kill Dumbledore. Since Snape is still alive Dumbledore is dead. I have also noticed that most people talk about how cruel Snape is to Harry. Think about it people they mention in the first book that Voldemorte will return. Don't you think it would be a bit of a give away if Snape was nice to Harry considering who Harry goes to school with? Draco Malfoy is a deatheaters son don't you think he would tell his father that Snape was treating Harry with respect? He has to make everything seem like he hates Harry and I believe he doesn't really like Harry but at the same time I don't believe he dislikes Harry either. In Order of the Phoenix Dumbledore tells Harry that despite all of Snapes taunts Sirius was much to clever to fall for that. I think that means that although they were never friends they were at least able to set aside their differences. I also think that Dumbledore and Snape had agreed to Snape killing him to save Draco's soul from being damaged after all for the well organized mind death is but the next great adventure. I also think that it will be Snape not Harry that kills Voldemorte once again perserving another pure soul. Harry will have to go after all the Horcruxes and his friends will help him do it but Harry will not actually kill Voldemorte. In none of the Prophecies does it mention that Harry has to kill Voldemorte only that neither can live while the other survives and that the one with the power to vanquish(once again not kill) the Dark Lord would be born. I would also like to point out that due to the curse that failed there was a connection between Harry and Voldemorte and that Dumbledore was actually expecting them to become aware of eachothers thoughts eventually which leads me to think that their plan was to make everyone think Snape was on the evil side. Yes Snape loves the dark arts but lets face it everyone has something that fascinates them even if it is not good for them. You might even think of Snape like a doctor who is studying a disease to find a cure after all Hermione pointed out that Snape sounded a lot like Harry when he finally got to teach Defense Against The Dark Arts. I also think that they had to wait till Draco finally got Dumbledore by himself to teach Draco that he wasn't as bad as he thought he was. Snape did what he had to do when he had to do it. He saved Dumbledores life numerous times he helped Harry out when Harry needed him even if he didn't like it. So despite the fact that he did a terrible thing he had no choice. He's a friend. P.S. Sorry it's unorganized I just had a lot to say and didn't want to forget something.(I think I did anyways tho)

I'm not sure about Snape there are many points in the stories where he seems absolutly terrible, but other clues may lead him to be a goodguy. I am also very nervous to see if harry survives or not. I really hope he does. It'd be good to see a hero ive had since 2nd grade win over all

Possibly Friend, if you remember the conversation where he argues with I belive Dumbledore that Snape doesn't want to do what it is Dumbledore is asking, It is weird that Snape couldn't teach Harry potions at all, and yet a book belonging to Snape mother is the one Harry is able to learn potions from, so technicly snape taught harry to master potions if you think about it, Just like Dumbledore had been asking, Snape could of killed Harry yet Dumbledore always trusted him, I have a hard time beliving someone as smart as Dumbledore could be so Dumb?
Then again Snape could be as slippery as His Oily Hair be evil and Rowling could be just as slippery and put in all the clues that Snape must be acting on Dubledore's behalf just to fool us...

JK has hinted that she kills a main character. This could be foreshadowing that means that when Harry attempts to kill Voldemort, he gets killed himself. I agree that Snape could also kill Voldemort instead of Harry. So many possibilities...

Snape is evil.I like the idea Bren S. had,I wish it was true.But it isn't really possible, is it?...BUT SNAPE IS DEFINITELY EVIL!!!I think Dumbledore's one mistake was trusting him.One fatally grievious mistake.But can't Harry talk to him in his portrait?(which I remind you,shows Dumbledore is DEAD)If Harry can than Dumbledore's ideas about the horcruxes can be investigated.I think R.A.B. sands for Sirius's brother, Regulus Black.And Kreacher might have the real horcrux.!!!So Harry can fight Voldemort and (i think they die at the same time,though I hope it isn't true.Harry should live.) all wizards live happily ever after. But something else occured to me:Harry is a lot like Voldemort,so maybe Voldemort doesn't kill Harry.I know it is deranged, but it is only an idea...a very stupidly deranged one.

I really hope i am not offending anyone...but this whole debate is nerdy!

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**Spoiler warning for 6th book**

I think he is a friend. I think that Dumbledore and Snape discussed what he would do once Voldemort returned. At the end of book 4, I think it was pretty clear that Snape was supposed to become a spy again. In book 6, when Snape enters into the Unbreakable Vow, he says he will watch over Draco and protect him, which is exactly what he does. Maybe that's part of the reason Draco couldn't kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore knew that's what he would be asked to do, and that's why he wanted Snape to watch over him, too. Snape and Dumbledore knew that Snape would have to kill Dumbledore, but Dumbledore knew he'd be dying anyway, so he figured better to have Snape do it and be trusted among the enemy than to have Draco do it and become evil.

Snape is rather difficult to figure out. At first I thought he was the type that played for both sides and waited for one side to destroy the other that way he would be on the winning team no matter what and he didn't really care who won. though his words about harry needing to learn to close his mind and shut his mouth in order to have a chance against voldermort cause me to come to the conclusion that if harry does at some point learn that stuff and looks like he has a decent chance to prevail then snape will assist harry. Also wormtail will definitley assist harry at some point and maybe draco as well.

I'm kind of divided on this topic. Snape has done some good things, but he's shrouded in mystery so I can't really tell. Snape has also done some not so good things. I guess I will just have to read the book to find out.

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I think Snape did what he did at Dumbledore's orders. Dumbledore was badly injured in the beginning of Half Blood Prince. Dumbledore told Harry that if it weren't for Snape he would have died then. I suspect that whatever Snape did, he was unable to cure him and only postponed Dumbledore's inevitable death. If Dumbledore knew that it was only a matter of time before the effects of Snape's help wore off, he might have asked Snape to finish it for him so that Snape could prove to Voldemort that he was on his side and gain an advantage as a spy. When Narcissa shows up to ask Snape for help, he said that he already knew of the plan for Malfoy. He would have told Dumbledore of it if he were spying on Voldemort which would explain why he made the unbreakable vow to finish the job for Malfoy. Dumbledore would have wanted to protect Malfoy from being forced to commit the act and become evil. I even think that Harry witnessing the event was planned. I think Dumbledore knew more about what Malfoy was up to then he let on and that the timing of taking Harry with him on the same night that Malfoy succeeded in repairing the vanishing cabinet was not an accident. Voldemort is an excellent legilimans and in spite of Snape trying to teach Harry how to block him from 'reading' his thoughts, Harry is not any good at it. So unless Harry was completely convinced that Snape is evil, Voldemort would never believe it either. In fact it would be better for everyone in the Order to believe it too so that no one would tip Voldemort off that it was planned if they were captured.

I'm sure that Dumbledore is really dead, but I'm also sure that Dumbledore will return in the next book because he already had returned at the end of the last one. He was 'asleep' in his portrait in the headmasters office while Harry was talking to the new Headmistress McConnegal. That couldn't have happened unless he really was dead.

Snape is an interesting chartacter to say the least. On the one hand, Snape seems to be someone who is in awe of the young Harry Potter because he wants to study him like a speciman. To me, that is what Snape is doing. He is studying Harry Potter in labrotory conditions to see what he is capapble of. There are many rumors swirling around about him and the fact he is very powerful. How powerful, we do not really know because we have only seen a small glimpse of what he is capapble of doing. How will Harry fare by staying at the Black house. Can he fully understand his powers? Did he retrive his book from school that once belonged to Snape? I also suspect that Snape realizes like everyone else, that Harry has some of Voldormort's powers. Some of those powers have come forth such as being able to talk to snakes. But what other powers does he possess?
Snape, on the other hand, is going to be more of a foe. He seems to be rather powerful and is disguising it from one and all, including those at Hogwarts and Voldormort. I have the feeling that if there is a life and death situation coming down, I think Snape will kill both Voldormort and Harry and take over. Although I have a feeling that Snape truly knows the dangers of the dark side and knows he will probably be hunted down like a rabbid wolf if he were to become the new dark lord.
Does anyone remember Harry saving Doby? Will Doby unit the house elves in support Harry against the death eaters. Dumbledore stated in book two that elf magic is very powerful. How powerful is this magic?
I also belive that Hermione Granger will become a pawn because she wants to protect her parents from the death eaters. We all know what death eaters like to do with muggles and she knows this and has witnesses their actions at the World Cup. Because of this, I believe she will sell out Harry in order to save them. Ron will unfortuately be killed off in fighting.

Hi is a friend because hi saved Harry in 1 of the books!!!!!! ;)

Snape is a friend. J.K. put the unbreakable vow in to get our attention. I think Snape did an unbreakable vow with Dumbledore that had something to do with protecting Harry. I think Snape was devastated that Lily was killed and went to Dumbledore in despair. Harry reminds him too much of James so he is always in turmoil about Harry but his vow would bind him to protect Harry. He could have killed Harry so many times if he was evil and probably cover it up nicely, especially as he was running away. He reflected all of Harry's spells and did not harm Harry at all, which he could have easily done. He even advised Harry on his way out about closing his mind so his enemies wouldn't know what spell he was using. I think Harry's fight with Snape through the entire series has caused a series of tests for Harry to have to get through to be able to take Voldemort on. No one else in the book is as advanced as Harry, as all the kids told him in almost every book. Everything he has been through has made him stronger and more prepared and Snape has been an excellent teacher. I don't think Harry getting Snape's potion book was an accident, but a well placed helping hand. Dumbledore is a lot more intelligent than some are giving him credit for. I think Harry's whole life was carefully plotted out by Dumbledore to prepare him for the end! I think the last book is going to be a huge surprise for all of us, and I can't wait!

I think all these comments are good but I have to disagree about Harry being an horcrox. I had not thought about Dumbledore being an anamagas. That sounds reasonable to me because Forks did fly in front of Dumbledore in "Order of the Phoenix" and swallowed the green fire of the avada kadava curse. So he could have done it again but I think there is a plan for Dumbledore to help Harry in book 7. I think Snape is mean but not evil and he will help Harry in the end.

I am still undecided about snape. I think snape was being bad just to earn points with voldermort and get a position of a high ranking death eater just so he could figure out all the ins and outs of voldermorts plans for harry. I think dumbeldore dying was all part of the Dumbledores master plan somehow Dumbeldore will come back and help harry in the end. Also I think in the last chapter of the book snape will reappear and help harry to find the last of the hourexs and then snape will die.

Apparently not very many of you in this conversation are all that intelligent or have very much understanding of the book. Dumbledore is dead. He will not come back. Harry is not a Horcrux. Why would he be? A person has a great chance of dying. not to mention that is voldemort made harry a horcrux he would be helping to kill himself if he succeded in killing harry. also before dumbledores death he tells harry that when it comes down to it, one of themm will win, they cannot live in existence together. as for all of those that say it would be suspicious if snape didnt follow the unbreakable vow and kill dumbledore? notice the very KEY word of UNBREAKABLE? also in the books it says that you die if you do not follow throguht with it. it is unclear as to if dumbledore and snape had an understanding when dumbledore died? that snape will in the end help harry kill voldemort and dumbledore sacraficed himeself in order to protect harry. i think that at then end of the last book snape will sacrafice himself to protect harry and allow harry to kill voldemort. snape may have been a foe up until now it is very hazy. but i feel that in the end he will ultuamatly see good and do the right thing.

Dumbledore is not stupid, he always has a reason for his doing.

i also don't want harry, hermione, or ron to die..

i dont think that dumbledore faked his own death because jk rowling likes to kill off everyones favorite characters. also, i think snape is not a friend but not evil; he only killed dumbledore so that he wouldnt die himself. if he didnt kill dumbledore then he would have broken the vow.


on an unrelated note...

it seems as though harry acts like tom riddle in book 3. he was attacking sirius black when crookshanks tried to protect him(sirius). harry thought that he didn't care if he had to kill crookshanks as long as he could kill black. he thought that crookshanks was being stupid, just as voldemort had thought of harry's mother right before he killed her. Also, did harry even know of any killing spells or know how to use them at that time? i dont know...anyway...

I believe that Harry and Voldemort have to kill each other off with their wands since
they have the same thing inside the wands. That is the only way to get rid of
Voldemort. Snape will help Harry .

oh yeah...i dont understand why everyone keeps saying that snape was in love with lily or something...he hated her for being a mudblood, remember? he insulted her when she tryed to protect him from harry's dad in book 5.

i dont know i go both ways. but what i do know is Dumbledore is really dead i read it on one of the many websites. but on the snape thing he could be friend because of the hole Unbreakable Vow thing. and if Malfoy didnt kill Dumbledore then lord Voldermort would kill him and Snap couldnt let him die. But i also believe that he is just down right evil thought that all along. so i dont know.

I think Snape is a good person because when Dumbledore say in the book 6 "Please, Severus" Dumbledore can saying "Please, Severus, kill me" or "Please, Severus, save me".

the idea that harry is a horcrux makes sense..
but if harry dies... that would devastate a lot of people... probably even me.

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Friend, for all the reasons above. Rowlings is a genius. I have read all the books over and over again and find it hard to find anything else to read. My husband goes to sleep with one of the movies on most every night. Dumbledore will return and Harry will either become the new headmaster of Hogwarts or an auror. There will be more books, there is still more to write about even when Harry kills Voldemort. There's always another bad guy out there. I just don't think it's Snape. Maybe Malfoy? Hermione will not die. Her and Ron will get together eventually. And Harry wil get together with Ron's little sister. After all, in his heart Harry is a Weasley, too.

Snape is no friend to Harry, to be sure. However, Snape has protected him from trouble on occasion. Snape is trusted absolutely by Dumbledore as seen throughout all the books. Snape was asked by Dumbledore to do what was done, no doubt in my mind.

I nearly fell off my chair when Dumbledore died, but I agree with Spencer F. that "dead is dead" and Dumbledore sacrificd himslef to protect Harry. Snape is, however conflicted about Harry, going to do his part in bringing about the end of Valdemort. I do believe that Snape will try and protect him, by working undercover with Valdemort (now that he can prove to the death eaters that he *is* one of *them* again and can join their ranks).

I do *not* believe that Harry will make it to his 18th brthday. Part of Harry's being is intertwined with Valdemort's ~ I don't believe that Valdemort could ever be truly dispatched if Harry is still alive. Harry may have to use the lesson taught by dear, dear Dumbledore, and sacrifice himself to rid the world of Valdemort.

I pre-ordered my book today; I'm sad that this wonderful story is about to conclude.

I've got it all figured out.......Harry is the final Hocruxx....it explains alot- everything in fact. Thats why he's got the mark on his forehead. Thats why Voldemort wants him dead so badly- he wants that part of his soul back (which explains why Harry and Voldemort are connected somehow). It also explains why Dumbledore trusts Snape- he is the one that gave this powerful piece of information as a way to earn back Dumbledore's trust. It also explains why Snape, although he hates Harry, will sacrifice everything to protect Harry at all costs....including killing Dumbledore to live up to his promise that he made.....interestingly, he still hates Harry because of who his parents are and what he represents. The fact that Snape probably blames Harry for him having to kill Dumbledore only adds to how much he hates Harry, yet he still needs to protect him.
In the end however, Snape is not evil and Dumbledore was correct at putting his trust in him.

Dumbledore is dead....for real. Snape is good....for real....and Harry will die in the end. Snape, knowing that killing Harry will destroy the last part of "He Who Shall Not Be Named" will end up having to kill Harry (at Harry's request) and that's how they will destroy Voldemort. Unfortunately, someone will misunderstand Snape's true intentions and kill Snape before they realize why he was doing this and he will also get killed. I predict a very bleak and dark ending......very "William Shakespear" if you will.....

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anyone figured out one of the horcrux of the ravenclaw item?

.. a friend told me he believed that its the mirror of erised.. because, if you look at the description, on the bottom of the mirror has a symbol a clawed feet. maybe?

.. just a thought..

personally...

i think it would be hilarious if jk rowling makes harry die. its what almost everyone is suspecting, but she thinks it will be this big surpise. if she doesnt make him die i will have a lot more respect for her....

I KNOW THIS LOOKS LONG, BUT TRUST ME, YOU'LL WANT TO READ THIS!!!......

I'm still on the fence about Severus. However, seeing as he is a talented occlumens (for lack of a better word, mind-reader), my thoughts are that while on the tower, he was able to see into Dumbledore's head. I believe he saw how the "drink" Dumbledore had consumed in the cave was causing him to go mad, and that it would not stop until it had consumed his consciousness and drove him so crazy he would die. Whether or not Snape is evil had nothing to do with what he did next; I think it was uncomfortable mercy that led Snape to euthanize Dumbledore before the poison painfully and utterly consumed him. Snape was actually trying to do Dumbledore a 'favor', with the unintended benefit of fulfilling his "unbreakable vow" made with Narcissa Malfoy at the beginning of the book.

Evidence of the effects of this poison can be found during a seemingly-insignificant conversation that took place at the Phoenix headquarters; there had been a question posed about whether anyone had ever tried to leave the Death Eaters. In fact, Regulus Black, one of Sirius' family members, had made a past attempt. Linking that information with the note Harry found in the fake locket from the watery cave, one can surmise that it was Regulus himself who first drank the poison in an attempt to find and destroy Voldemort's horcrux (the note inside indicated the initials R.A.B.: Regulus Black). Unfortunately for Regulus, he was found dead days after his departure from the Death Eaters and presumably, also days after drinking the solution surrounding the locket.

This brings me to my next point: Harry as a horcrux. I believe after hearing the partial-prophecy, Voldemort instincts would have led him to destroy the child who threatened his existence, not carefully plan and plot another horcrux. Remember, at this early point in the saga, Harry was an unknown with no importance whatsoever. Voldemort could not forsee Harry's future significance to the wizarding world, and consequently the thought of placing a portion of his soul into Harry would not have even entered his mind.

Further evidence contrary to the idea of Harry being a horcrux revolves around the old magic Lily Potter used on her son during Voldemort's attack. As we've been told, her ancient magic protected young Harry like a shield. Therefore, any spell rebounding off of Harry and onto the original spell-caster would have to perform the original spell. Considering this assumption, had Voldemort's spell been intended to turn Harry into a horcrux, wouldn't Voldemort have turned into a horcrux himself? However, he did not maintain his physical body (as a horcrux would), so readers must deduce that the original spell was, in fact, the avadakedavra curse.

Anyway, that's the way I see it...

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Dumbledore is alive yes alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

alright i have taken peoples advice and gone to mugglenet.com ... this helped. first of all this information is straight from J.K. herself they are about many of the rumors about dumbledore and soforth...
Before each Harry Potter book comes out, there are always people who will try to turn theories they've concocted into fact, or even those who will simply create rumors for the fun of it. Currently, there are a few about Book 7 and below you can find the ones which JKR has debunked.

Character Information
-Dumbledore is really dead. He is not in hiding and is not coming back.
T-here will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be
-Dumbledore is not Harry's relative
-Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin
-Lily Potter is not alive
-Lily was not a Death Eater
-Crookshanks is not an Animagus
-Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew
-Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother
-Petunia is not a Squib
-Dumbledore is not Harry/Ron from the future
-Mrs Norris/Crookshanks will not be discovered as an Animagus

those are the main ones. now thank you victoria. while this does not discontinue the horcrux theory it does completly put the "dumbloredore rising" to rest. harry is nnot a horcrux for several reasons. many of you do not realize the point of a horcrux. it splits up the soul in order to keep the "person" alive if the piece they contain is destroyed by death. voldemort doesnt know if all the horcruxes have been destroyed. in the latest book dumbledore states that voldemort might not even know when they are destroyed. also, voldemort has no intention of dying, if he kills harry he could be killing himself, and he is not willing to do this. if he killed harry he would not recieve a piece of his soul back, he would destrory it. it will ultimatly come down to harry vs. voldemort. but this will come after all the other horcruxes are destroyed, which will take up the majority of the book. of this i am sure. in the final showdown snape will most likely sacrafice himself to help harry kill voldemort. this is my final prediction.

i had my book ordered my book 2 weeks ago. but i dont want it to end it with harry dieing. and who said that snape was in love with lily.

hmm...i agree with spencer f. about the horcrux.. it does make sense.

if harry is one of the horcrux, then why would voldermort stupidly want to kill harry? unless, there is something else in store..

Harry is definitely not a horcrux. Voldy wouldn't be trying to kill him if he was! He needs all the lives he can get. Besides, he was basically destroyed when the curse backfired and was unable to do anything at that point other than barely survive.

I think that Snape is a friend. the reason why i think that he is good is because when dumbledore was trapped and Snape was in front of him, he was begging him. i think that he was begging him to just kill him. it was all a plan. in the last book i think that snape will sacrifice himself for harry

Spencer F. , Your analyses make sense. I fear that Harry may die as well, I hope not, but...
The ideas Debby L. proposes for his future are so horribly anticlimatic -
I just hope the final book is as good as the first six. I do hate to see it end.

I think Snape is good because Dumbledore trusted him and in the first book it says on the chocolate frog card that dumbledore was famous for his defeat of the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945. I think that it means he made a horcrux!!! Also Snape could have killed Harry 2 or 3 times.

Harry IS a horcrux, of that I am positive. Remember when Dumbledore told Harry in CoS that by trying to kill Harry, Voldemort transferred a little piece of himself into him? Harry is a teeny piece of Voldy's soul.

Why would he want to kill Harry? No idea. Maybe it's a kill-or-be-killed situation. I mean, sure, it would suck to kill one of your horcruxes, but it would suck even more to be just dead.

Snape is a good guy, basically for all the reasons that everyone's listed. He and Dumbledore had his death planned out, they just didn't know when specifically. In HBP, there is a small part where Harry catches a conversation where Snape and Dumbledore are arguing, and Dumbledore is making Snape promise to stick to a plan he didn't want to do...

JK's a genius.

Has anyone suggested the possibility that Snape and Dumbledore had their own unbreakable vow in which Snape vowed to protect Harry *and* Draco at all costs - even at Dumbledore's expense?

Shannon H. when he said "Voldemort transferred a little piece of himself into him? Harry is a teeny piece of Voldy's soul. " he was meaning the part about being able to talk to snakes, and his magic and type of wand, also several small things. but making a horcrux is a deliberate act. also, in sorcers stone when he touches harry he begins to burn and crumble, well how could a piece of his soul exist in harry if he couldnt even touch him. it is just not possible. also once again voldemort has no idea how many horcruxes are left, so if he destroys harry he could bbe killing himself, and he does not have this within himself.,