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First Chapters Writing Competition Round Two Winners!

May 01, 2007 09:02 AM EDT (Updated: May 01, 2007 01:12 PM EDT)
views: 2902 | rating: 9/10 (41 votes) | comments: 134
 

 

We're pleased to announce the Round Two winners of the First Chapters Writing Competition!  
Your votes were counted to bring Round Two to a close. The field has been narrowed to ten semi-finalists.  Seven of the semi-finalists were selected by the Gather community and the balance by Gather editorial. As in all Gather competitions, the voting was monitored by sophisticated click fraud technology to assure an open and free competition from potential abuse.

It's Now Time to Pick the Finalists
Since we launched the competition in January, your participation has been critical in evaluating over 2,600 entries. Now it's time for the community to participate in the selection of the five top finalists. Remember, one of these five finalists will be offered a publishing contract with Simon & Schuster!

Read & Rate the Third Chapters
Through May 16, read, rate and comment on the third chapters of our Semi-Finalists. If you'd like, you may also read their first and second chapters to gain better perspective.

Our 10 Semi-Finalists are (in alphabetical order by last name):

 

Geoffrey Edwards, Fire Bell in the Night
Candida Korman, Wendy and Alice

J.M. LeTurk, The Wave Organ
Geeta Menon, Speechless
Scott Middlemist, Name Drop Zone
Robert Moscoso, Junction Boulevard
Stephen Prosapio, Dream War
Rebeccah Ruby, Big, Hairy & Bloodless...
Rachel Schipul, Forty-Two Blue
Terry Shaw, The Way Life Should Be

We will also be rewarding the most insightful commenter on each of the 5 advancing submissions with a $100 Borders gift card!  Please click here for more details.

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Comments: 134

Kathryn E. May 1, 2007, 9:06am EDT
Excellent choices, all of them. Now, again the difficult task of us trying to evaluate these fine authors who've put their blood, sweat and tears into their novels.
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Judi F. May 1, 2007, 9:09am EDT
Congratulations everyone! I wish you all the best of luck. And this round I will rate and comment.

To everyone else who will be reading - these people do not deserve your nasty comments. Constructive criticism will help them improve their entry. Remember, one of these folks will become published and you have a direct influence in the final product. They are all very talented writers and marketers and, like it or not, marketing is a huge portion of publishing. So I'm asking each of you to rate the chapter on its own merit as a manuscript worthy of being published.

Having read these in round 2, it's going to be a tough call.

Enjoy the ride, Top 10!
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Ken C. May 1, 2007, 9:26am EDT
Sorry, Judy, but I disagree. For contest manipulation, entries like Big, Hairy and Bloodless deserve each and every snide and rude comment. I simply can't believe Gather is so desperate to pump their numbers that they would allow blatant gaming of their system. As far as I'm concerned, they are now complicit.
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Ian M. May 1, 2007, 9:29am EDT
Judi, I promise to be good to these finalists, but it's so aggravating to see some of the other good works passed up, like yours.
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Donny Winburn May 1, 2007, 9:59am EDT
And the winner is Terry Shaw! What? The contest isn't over yet? Sorry I made the call to early. You guys go read the chapters and vote as if it counted. Just pretend I didn't tell you who won the whole contest.
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Judi F. May 1, 2007, 11:09am EDT
Thanks, Ian. You know I've appreciated every nice word you've said about my story. As to Ken - manipulation? That's a pretty harsh word and I'm not going to bandy this about with you. 16 of the Top 20 finalists joined a chat loop I started and I would be hard pressed to put that kind of description on any of the people I've come to know "off-Gather." But reality is 9/10 perception, so if it looks like that to you, my comments aren't going to change it.

What I'd really like to say, is that the internet doesn't forget. For people who are trying to have a career in publication, every word you put "out there" has the potential shelf life of forever. Don't say something you'll come to regret - in other words, be professional. That doesn't mean you can't criticize; it means say it professionally.

Okay, lecture over.
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DesertDarlene L. May 1, 2007, 11:18am EDT
Aww, my favorite didn't get in. But, that's OK, I'll pick a new favorite.
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Ian M. May 1, 2007, 11:26am EDT
I guess congrats go most to the people with good manuscripts who didn't make round two or round three. May we not be lost in a slush pile again.
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Andrew W. May 1, 2007, 11:37am EDT
Manipulation??? You mean Junction Boulevard with his 300 sock puppet friends and fraudulent votes made the top 10?????????????

Watch him cheat his way to the top 5 everyone!!!

This contest is doggie doo!
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Eric D. Goodman May 1, 2007, 11:39am EDT
My sincere congratulations to all of the finalists. You've all done a great job!

You had every right to take pride in being a semi-finalist -- the top 20 of 2,675 entries. And now, to be in the top ten, you have accomplished something truely great. You're firmly planted atop America's slush pile.

As for me ... on to the first of the literary agents who expressed an interest in TRACKS ...

To the others who didn't make it to round three, let's cheer on the finalists as we continue to polish our own novels and proceed to the next opportunities to improve and share our work.

Best of luck to all ten of the finalists! Regardless of the outcome, you are all deserving winners.

Eric
www.edgewriter.gather.com
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Beth H. May 1, 2007, 11:40am EDT
Congratulations to the 10 Round Two winners! And a big thank you to the other 10 for sharing your chapters with us. Success to all 20 of you and to the other 2,600 who participated. May we all be published one day!
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Robin"Buffy's Stunt Double" D. May 1, 2007, 11:47am EDT
Congrats to all the round two winners and also to those that took the time to write and enter the contest. I know that there were many others that were worth a second glance and I hope to see those published one day too.
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Bill R. May 1, 2007, 11:51am EDT
Congratulations!!!
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Geeta M. May 1, 2007, 11:56am EDT
Thank you, Judy and Eric, for your good wishes. To be quite honest, I think you guys will be on the shelves before the remaining 10 are.. :-)

And thanks, everyone, for your continued good wishes and support. None of us would be here without you.
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Kirsten E. May 1, 2007, 12:00pm EDT
I am adding my congratulations to the round two winners, as well as to the many people who completed a manuscript and submitted it to this contest. I hope that you are all very proud of your accomplishment, as you deserve to be.

Despite the fact that there will inevitably be bitching and moaning, as we can obviously see, I also want to express thanks to the many people out there who offered constructive criticism, support and kindness to all the entrants who put their works out in the open like this.
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Carl Rosendorf May 1, 2007, 12:12pm EDT
Congratulations to our 10 Semi-Finalists. This is a tremendous achievement for which you should all be very proud.

To those of you that may not have progressed to this round, please know that Gather will be hosting additional writing competitions in the future. We will be making some exciting announcements soon.

In terms of any concerns expressed by some members around voting, please be assured that Gather utilizes the most sophisticated voting click fraud technology. Each of our winners should feel confident that they deserve to be on this list.

Once again, congratulations to our 10 Semi-Finalists and I encourage all Gather members to read, rate and comment on each of the third chapters of these books. To further incent our readers, Gather is providing $100 gift card awards to the writers of the best comments on each of the 5 Finalists being announced on May 22nd.

Carl Rosendorf, Gather President & COO
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t b. May 1, 2007, 12:24pm EDT
My only complaint is not getting to finish reading one of the top 20 stories that didnt make it to the top 10. I do however think that anyone who worked up a story, then worked up the courage to post here is a winner. And my sincere congratulations to the top 10. (try to ignore the bitter remarks lol)
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Sensational Sadie Sexy Senior Sitizen May 1, 2007, 12:31pm EDT
Congratulations to the writers of these fine stories and to all who entered the First Chapters contest. I would hate to have been a judge for this. There were all excellent.
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Ishmael T. May 1, 2007, 12:38pm EDT
Mwah, ha, ha. Mmmwah, ha, ha, ha. Head thrown back laughing. Palms together, rubbing...Mwah, ha, ha! Can't wait for the glad hand.
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Lisa M. May 1, 2007, 12:38pm EDT
Congratulations to the top 10 :)
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Lori F. May 1, 2007, 12:43pm EDT
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You deserve it.
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Pat S. May 1, 2007, 12:44pm EDT
Congratulations to the top 10 finalist, and Carl, the anouncement of the award for reviwers warms my heart. I believe it will help motivate people to be thoughtful and generous in their comments.

To those of you who didn't make the cut this round, I'm sorry. Judi, I truly thought I'd find yo9u here. You've got a lot going for you.

To the winners, my best wishes to you in this round. It's an achievement to have made it this far. May you each get the votes and commentary your works deserve.

Good luck -
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*Melissa F *. May 1, 2007, 12:48pm EDT
Hey... its Tuesday!


Congratulations everyone!
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Judi F. May 1, 2007, 12:51pm EDT
Pat, again I say thank you. Through the nasty comments and drive-by oners, people like you and Ian and others made Round 2 easier to take. And to those who didn't make it easy, you did make my skin thicker, so there's some thanks going out to you as well :)
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wiaka's just ... curious May 1, 2007, 1:00pm EDT
Congratulations everyone that have made it to the top ten. As a Gather memberI have to say I didn't get to read everyone of your works; and I am sorry for that there were so many to read.

For the most part there were some very good ones that didn't make the top ten and you have nothing to feel bad about.

Again; congratulations!
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Stephen Prosapio May 1, 2007, 1:19pm EDT
Thanks to all for your positive thoughts and wishes!
Judi and Eric - thanks for your words and thoughts. You two have a great chance to get out there and lead the way for the rest of us.

Carl, thanks for your assurances, and especially for stepping up with additional prizes!!!

I hope everyone enjoys the 3rd Chapters. Remember, we're all real people just like you. We're all writers attempting to improve. Constructive criticism is valuable. The mean and nasty comments are unnecessary.

Happy reading everyone!!!

PS – all this and I haven't yet been hit by a drive by!!!
:-)
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Arlene H. May 1, 2007, 1:40pm EDT
I don't understand why some people are angry. That's so counterproductive. Congratulations to everyone. And to the writers who were not chosen, you can and should keep working on your novels & posting chapters. Just e-mail us to let us know where they are and we can continue to critique if you want.
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Patry Francis May 1, 2007, 2:24pm EDT
This is really getting exciting! Congrats and good luck to all the finalists--and to those worthy semi-finalists who will be pursuing publication independently.
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Sheila Deeth May 1, 2007, 2:29pm EDT
Congratulations all of you, and thanks for giving us such great chapters to read.
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Ruthe M. May 1, 2007, 2:43pm EDT
Congratulations to each and every one...To those who advanced, and to those who did not—because your work was still excellent—you deserve much accolades for your hard work and dedication.

I look forward to reading more...from everyone! I am an avid reader!
Once again...Congratulations!
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ana maria r. May 1, 2007, 2:43pm EDT
I agree with most comments bebore mine that all 10 semifinalists deserve heartfelt congratulations. I cannot wait to congratulate the one and only WINNER!
and the best thing is, no one could guess in adavance who he/she would be. ( So we are waiting for the mstery to be revealed ) Amr
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jessie voigts May 1, 2007, 2:45pm EDT
congrats to all that participated!
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samantha b. May 1, 2007, 3:07pm EDT
Congratulations to all of the round two winners & good luck in round three!
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Lori F. May 1, 2007, 3:24pm EDT
Judi just because you didnt make this cut I still think I will be sitting under a tree in Iowa reading about Jolie. You have talent.
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M M. May 1, 2007, 4:12pm EDT
Congratulations and best of luck to all.
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Marge H. May 1, 2007, 5:02pm EDT
Congratulations to the top ten. I am looking forward to reading your third chapters.
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Judi F. May 1, 2007, 5:05pm EDT
Lori - Thanks! Here's hoping. I have gotten a lot of post-Gather interest, so we'll see. And, Tom, yes, it's recent. I'm assuming that's a compliment in there somewhere? In which case I'll say thank you and if not, oh well. My skin's been toughened by Round 2.
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Hajo v. May 1, 2007, 5:36pm EDT
Congratulations to those of you who advanced, and also congratulations to those who didn't but made it so far.

Good for me: I get to read the next chapter of a few stories I am really curious about. Bad for me: What about the others?

I recommend Gather sets up a group featuring all those of the 2600 who made it to the book stores. There is a lot of potential in here.
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Trish A. May 1, 2007, 6:24pm EDT
Excellent idea about a group for the First Chapter books that make it to the book stores! Congratulations to all who had the courage to submit and special congratulaions to those who are now in the elite top ten.
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Natalie Neal Whitefield May 1, 2007, 6:39pm EDT
Hats off to the winners who are going forward in the finals, and accolades to all who entered and gave it your all! It is by your individual efforts and personal example that the rest of us continue to pursue our own dreams of success. I, too, think it would be fun to see how many of the entrants in First Chapters actually make it onto the shelves! Time will tell. There are many fine possibilities.
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Caroline S. May 1, 2007, 6:52pm EDT
I applaud all of the semi-finalists: just to know their work is of such respected and high quality must be the best feeling for each of you !!! I myself submitted an entry....no, I didn't win, but I must say, I felt great about "putting my work out there"......it is my fervent hope that all reviewers respect the integrity of all the participants..and esp. the semi-finalists. See you at the bookstore !!!
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Brian L. May 1, 2007, 7:05pm EDT
Yo, dogz. Notin' buts mads respectz fo gettin' to dis round, ya'll. I beez dat blogga who be votin' 4 allz you. My book, ThUg PoEtry, didn't win, but I appreciates, like, tha votez and ish. Good luckz to you allz! Peacez!

-B.LA$H
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Member Photog May 1, 2007, 7:42pm EDT
Respect!
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Ann B. May 1, 2007, 9:29pm EDT
Congratulations to all the finalists -- I bet this has been extremely draining on you with all the ups and downs of the process. I hope that everyone who reviews your work will remember how much courage and strength it's taken you to get to this point -- in addition to the talent and vision of your writing. Constructive criticism can point out both the good and the bad as the reviewer sees it -- but done in a way that shows you want to help improve the work rather than tear down the writer.

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LINDA H. May 1, 2007, 9:30pm EDT
Excellently done, ALL. Hopefully there be another contest- SOON!
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Mark Y. May 1, 2007, 9:46pm EDT
I still detect a sizable artificial grade inflation, but at least one debacle I thought was certain didn't happen. Now, let's just see how much telling and adverbiage we have left?
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James R. May 1, 2007, 9:47pm EDT
Congratulations to all in the 3rd round. The chapters I had time to read among these during round 2 all definitely belong. At the same time, my thoughts go out to the other 10 writers from round 2; I definitely saw some good professional work there as well. I look forward to reading the new 3rd chapters.

I also look forward to reading some of the work from round 1 that authors have taken the time to polish. Good writing takes effort, but it is a journey worth taking.
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donna h. May 1, 2007, 9:51pm EDT
congrats to all
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Carol Lloyd May 1, 2007, 11:46pm EDT
Congratulations everyone!
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Hilary J. May 2, 2007, 1:57am EDT
A good lot here! There are two in particular that keep impressing me. I will be reading along with pleasure! Everyone should be proud of their accomplishments even if the journey was shorter than desired. There is only one way to stay on the path...keep writing.
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Patricia M. May 2, 2007, 3:40am EDT
Congratulations to the winners, my favourite is not among them but I have a list of books to look forward to reading when they are published. Thank you for sharing your chapters with us, and cannot wait to read more. I wish all of you the best of luck and may the best chapter three win.
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Dolphi D. May 2, 2007, 3:47am EDT
Congratulations to all of the top ten. It is by no means a mean feat to have advanced thus far. The sincerity of the majority of the voters and the effectiveness of the click fraud detection system is evident from the merit of the winning entries.

I hope some of the entries holding good promise but could not make it to this list got noticed and won publishing contract from other publishers.

Good luck to all!
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Carolyn A. May 2, 2007, 5:46am EDT
Congratulations to the TEN. I look forward to reading your chapters.
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Dale C. May 2, 2007, 9:56am EDT
I posted the unofficial standings after the first 24 hours of Round 3 I also posted my best estimate of the number and percentage of comments coming from the authors' fan clubs. I'd be interested in what you think. Useful? Not worth the bother? Let me know if you would like updates like this from time to time.

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976973463
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Rima S. May 2, 2007, 11:52am EDT
Congratulations is the most repeated word now and here I am saying it " Congratulations to everyone" although I have only read one chapter. Good Luck for the finalist and I am sure they deserve it. I guess so..peace..
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Charlene Sharp May 2, 2007, 1:16pm EDT
To all of you who had the courage and put in the hardwork to post your chapters. My hats off to you! I wasn't ready for this round, it's not easy to put your work out their and have it judged by complete strangers. But I would also like to say I have never since working in middle school seen such childish and cry baby behavior. I don't understand why their is so much anger at the "Winners". When no one forced anyone to enter this contest and at anytime if not satified, a person could of pulled out. The green eyed Devil is very ugly especially when it is a adult that is acting out. The creative world is not a easy one to work in, and if some get this mad over a competition. What will they do when some Critic takes their work apart? Good Luck again to all that are continuing on!
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Paul G. May 2, 2007, 3:07pm EDT
Cool, baby!
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Cami C. May 2, 2007, 3:42pm EDT
Congratulations everyone! I am sorry to see Tracks go...I would have liked to have read more...but I am definitely looking forward to reading the Chapter 3's of those who have moved forward. Keep your spirits up and try not to be too obsessed with the ratings.
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Abiola A. May 2, 2007, 7:05pm EDT
Congrats you guys! ^_^ Lucky you!
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Jennifer Oliver May 2, 2007, 9:58pm EDT
Congratulations to the top ten!
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Brendan H. May 3, 2007, 12:35pm EDT
Congrats to all who made it, but, go Mr. Middlemist!
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Marcia D. May 6, 2007, 9:17am EDT
I am enjoying these stories and appreciating their differences. They give me a window into what folks (younger than I) are reading and writing these days as I cling to my books by Edna O'Brien and watch for her contributions to The New Yorker. Okay,Okay...I'm out of the loop for sure. But it is a thrill to SEE your work in print. My "Camille's Fond Embrace" (NOT a romance) didn't make it, but you can see my smashing cover on Amazon.com. My "Three Stories" is there too. Keep writing and I'll keep reading.
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Marcia D. May 7, 2007, 9:37am EDT
In the past year, what is the best book you've read?
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Geoffrey E. May 7, 2007, 10:18am EDT
OOO, Marcia, I love this question....Fiction----The Reluctant Fundamentalist (just came out---I read this in one easy sitting...Its, very short)....Nonfiction----A Long Way Gone...(you may be familiar with it, it has become very popular.
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Geoffrey E. May 7, 2007, 10:20am EDT
I'd love to hear yours too, Marcia...I love tips!
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M.B. W. May 7, 2007, 10:44am EDT
Comments on the 'top ten.'

There was no one submission that was truly clean, which means none of these 'top ten' authors can truly write to professional standards. They are either novice writers, or they were in a rush to submit their manuscripts. Professional editors have little sympathy for either.

There are six parameters for judging a novel:

Opening; Plot; Character; Setting; Dialogue; and Writing.

I used these to judge the entries.

Specific submissions:

Edwards submission was one of the more polished entries.

Korman's piece was relatively cleanly written, with the exception of the some niggling errors. The story continues to build tension, with conflict evident.

LeTurk novel had a wandering POV, an excess of verbiage and no clear evidence of a plot.

Menon's writing is a mish-mash of three characters, no conflict, no tension, i.e,, no story.

Middlemist's piece is a panache of impressions pretending to be a war-damage warrior. It is pretentious, but poorly written.

Morosco's submission (ch. 3) is a long-winded exposition Rico's progress with a seduction, replete with saidisms, wandering POV and excess verbiage.

Prosapio's writing makes us suffer through all of his research on dreaming, while starving the reader for a story, combined with infodumps and lots of 'telling.'

Ruby's writing is a failed attempt at experimental writing. There's no conflict, tension, plot. It's not a story.

Schipul's writing is generally clean, however, there's no conflict, tension. What's the story?

Shaw's first two chapters were better than the third. This submission slipped with saidisms, even though it moved forward.

The GATHER contest used a selection mechanism that fails to bring the best stories forward by using the 'popular' vote. The vote has been abused by the 'vote trawlers' who have recruited school children, affinity groups, co-workers and others who have little knowledge about writing, and have substituted loyalty for judgment.

Those who write, know writing and can judge writing have been out-voted en mass.

As a result, the 'top ten' are not the best of the writing submitted to Gather. If this contest is run again according to the same rules, I recommend that serious writers ignore it.

I have commented on the top ten, but gave votes to none of the entries. As for the Gather contest, I voted.
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Julie G. May 7, 2007, 11:45am EDT
The Great One hath spoken.
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Geeta M. May 7, 2007, 3:23pm EDT
Thanks, M.B W. You keep us so grounded.
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Mark Y. May 8, 2007, 12:15am EDT
"The vote has been abused by the 'vote trawlers' who have recruited school children, affinity groups, co-workers and others who have little knowledge about writing, and have substituted loyalty for judgment.

Julie's comment nothwithstanding, I agree with M.B. W. We disagree on science and what constitutes current authority, although I am right scientifically. We are one in this assessment. It reminds me of blog shills, who run newcomers out of town on a rail in favor of the homeboys and girls no matter how full of it they are. Then the truth tellers are banned to emphasise the power of the group.
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Mark Y. May 8, 2007, 8:47am EDT
Just about all of us did Geeta. Suggesting sour grapes is but a way out that's already been blocked. The complaints are valid. I assure you from experience, no agent in town would give any of the the time of day.
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Donny Winburn May 8, 2007, 11:08am EDT
And the winner is,,,,,,,, Terry Shaw! What? It's still too early to announce the winner? I'm sorry. Everybody read and vote on the chapters and pretend that the winner hasn't been preselected.
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E C. May 8, 2007, 2:52pm EDT
"There was no one submission that was truly clean, which means none of these 'top ten' authors can truly write to professional standards. They are either novice writers, or they were in a rush to submit their manuscripts. Professional editors have little sympathy for either."

I found this comment interesting. Wasn't this a contest for novices? I have great hope for these books. True, they may be far from perfect, but I'm sure the authors have learned a lot from the comments they've received and with the help of a professional editor, I'm sure they will probably be changed before they are published. These stories are great beginnings, and they'll only be made better by going through this contest.
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M.B. W. May 8, 2007, 3:28pm EDT
Rand P., I find your comments quite insightful, and generally I can agree with them. As I've said many times when giving presentations on writing, 'Writing is hard work, and good writing is damn hard work.'

There are no short cuts, no easy way. To become a good writer, you must both read a lot and write a lot. And the definition of reading a lot includes classics, your genre and genres you normally wouldn't touch. As for writing, it has been said (I wish I knew by who) you must write a million words before you're ready to write your first novel.

Those dues I have completed, and I have yet to get published.

And, this 'Gather contest' has winnowed many who wish to take the short cut by recruiting family, friends, students, whatever, to climb to the top of the pile. But if the quality isn't there, then, this too, is futile.

To E.C., yes, this contest may be for 'novices,' but if I remember correctly, it is actually for unpublished authors. I suggest that there is a difference between a novice and a seasoned (unpublished) writer.

A seasoned writer has learned to avoid the mistakes that spells out 'novice,' and has the skills to write comfortably while focused upon the story. For if the 'story' or 'yarn' isn't present, even the best command of the English language is for naught.

As for 'professional editors' rescuing a manuscript by careful and caring revision, don't believe that for one second. Today, editors want polished, clean manuscripts that engage the reader from page one. In addition, they want every word to drive the plot forward. Excess verbiage is deadly.

Most of the 'top ten' fail to meet these criteria. And that's why I did not give any of them a score. None are to a professional level.

Remember the first rule of writing... Write!
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M.B. W. May 8, 2007, 7:30pm EDT
Well said, Rand P., well said!

You covered the topic of first reader (and without saying it, the 'slush pile' too), and why any submission should be a polished, finished, professional piece of work.

Also remember; the first chapter will sell your book, the last chapter will sell your next book. But the stuff in between had better be good, too!

'Nuff said about writing. I could go on, but I usually get paid to do so.


Tom Hunter – I agree that Gather's 'American Idol' approach to selecting winners has the weakness of substituting loyalty for quality. However, as you say, there will never be enough 'friends' to make a best-seller out of a crappy piece of writing.

Unless Gather revises its rules for future contests, I suspect serious writers will refuse to enter. I sure won't.

Well, I guess the party's over. Time to go.
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M.B. W. May 8, 2007, 7:37pm EDT
One last item.

Tom Hunter - I disagree with you about Middlemist's piece.

I believe that 'Name Drop Zone' is more like experimental fiction. I do not see a story, plot line or any logical unfolding action. Sure, you can say, 'but it's a dream.'

And that is a cop-out for serious writing. As an experiment? Mebbe.

It's like taking a tab of acid and spewing forth images or recollections. Different, startling, unusual… yeah. But is it a story? NO.
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Julie G. May 8, 2007, 8:39pm EDT
I, personally, am finding this blossoming friendship between M.B. W. and Rand P. really touching. Thanks for sharing, guys.
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Mark Y. May 8, 2007, 10:08pm EDT
"They rode our hopes and dreams to a marketing bonanza."

They did. Played us like a Tennessee fiddle, but I wouldn't want to be Gather.com when they have a whole lotta splainin to do as to why the winner isn't publishable. And I'm sure the New York Times will find it entertaining as well. Especially if said winner is shown to have copied a TV episode into scenes. Some of these are sure familiar to me. I recall the old actor even. Slushpiles today go through the agencies. These are the so-called first readers: the agent's assistant. No editor ever sees them, because only agented submissions get to an editor's desk. How many rejections did these winners have under their belt before this? I bet none.
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D L. May 9, 2007, 1:40am EDT
Congratulations and the best of luck,
I agree with so many positive posts - character development, captivating, interesting, intriguing - page turner chapter, nice pace. - One point. Agreed with previous post -
'The craft elements are all in place and you write with a distinctive voice. It's what you are saying that gives me pause. The opening domestic scene is effective but, IMHO, does not set us up for the extended dream or nightmare sequence to follow.'
Descript of kids visit was too brief.
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M.B. W. May 9, 2007, 2:18pm EDT
Aw, gee, Julie G., (blush) y'all say the sweetest thangs....
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scout s. May 9, 2007, 3:47pm EDT
To those who have read all of the entries -- which five do you think should move forward?

Here's an article Dave wrote on the subject:

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976992434
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sara r. May 10, 2007, 10:20pm EDT
Wendy and Alice
Big Hairy & Bloodless
Wave organ
Fire Bell in the night
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Tom d. May 11, 2007, 12:49am EDT
I have read all the comments on this page while clicking my way down to this empty box so I could enter my thoughts on this contest and on the final 10. Wow! is all I can say after that! Pretty harsh feelings out there about the contest. Not sure I disagree at all with them.

M.B. W. has some really thoughtful things to say about the contest and the final 10 entrants. Rand P also has some very good things to say. By "good" I mean that I find them easy for me to agree with after reading all of the final 10 entries.

I agree with those folks but none of them touched on this point so I'm going to say something about the format of gather.com in presenting the entries. For each entry one must WAIT for the page to download. Some of the entries (like Speechless) have HUNDREDS of comments) and it takes a long time for the page to download. As a suggestion for gather.com (IF they are to do this again - although I'm not sure if ANY of the folks that have participated in this one will be back) how about presenting the chapter on a page and having COMMENTS on a different "linked" page? This way a reader can get to the entry quickly - and get to the other finalists quickly without waiting for all the comments to download.

When one rates the piece the screen changes and then when one posts a comment the screen changes - it then takes twice as long to get back to the start in order to select another entry to read. Think about changing the way this is presented so that the reader can get to the entries quickly and not spend so much time just clicking back and forth to find the start again.

I found the site NOT well programmed for ease of moving around.

Also the fiasco that took place in the comment region of Junction Boulevard is something that I find very poorly handled by the administrator and by the site management. First of all if gather.com is really altering the ratings and eliminating comments due to some judgement of fairness or qualified sources then the entire contest is questionable as to validity. If the admin thinks unqualified ratings are taking place to inflate the rating of that entry - the entry should be found disqualified. Unqualified positive ratings = unqualified entry. Period. Why should an entry be left in the contest if the admin has removed some of the ratings? How can the admin be confident that they know what they are doing? Very poorly managed IMHO.

As another suggestion: Let the readers see the synopsis that was required of each entrant along with Chapter One. At least the reader will then have some idea of where the author THINKS he/she(they) is going with their story since some of us still couldn't be sure after reading three chapters. At least in that instance we would have some chance to judge how well they are setting it up if they still haven't made it clear.

I wish I could say it's been fun.

It HAS been informative to me as a hopeful author to see what and how others have presented. I WAS terribly disappointed in the obvious use of clubs, groups, students, possibly countries :o) to send in positive comments on some of the entries. The mish-mash of commenters in the Name Drop Zone entry was really awful! Another disqualification candidate in my view.

To reply to Scout's question:

Fire Bell in the Night
Forty-Two Blue
Wendy and Alice
Dream War
The Way Life Should Be

Is it just me or is it really telling that only one of you above me actually listed FIVE when answering Scout's question?

Good Luck to all of you and most of all to gather.com - I think they need it more than any of us.
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JANE G. May 11, 2007, 3:15pm EDT
For me it's:
Big Hairy and Bloodless
The Way Life Should Be
Wendy and Alice
Forty-Two Blue
Junction Blvd.
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Michael D. May 11, 2007, 3:15pm EDT
Judi:

Hear anything else about your book?
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Catherine B. May 11, 2007, 6:39pm EDT
Has Junction Boulevard been disqualified? I couldn't find the third chapter when I was checking the latest ratings. If so, why? (I haven't been on lately while I've been reading the entries, which I printed so I could read them on the bus.)

The five I would like to see advance:

Name Drop Zone
Fire Bell in the Night
The Wave Organ
(Would have put Junction Boulevard here)
Dream War
Forty-Two Blue (if Junction Blvd is out)

I'll be rating and commenting on all chapters this weekend.

Cathy
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Catherine B. May 11, 2007, 8:12pm EDT
I just got home and checked again to find that Junction Boulevard (Chapter 3) is back. So ... never mind.

Cathy
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Radhika A. May 12, 2007, 12:35am EDT
This may sound weird to most of the commentators over here, but real life isn't just about great writing, it is also about good marketing.. (I am not suggesting inflating scores by unfair means, but even getting people to come in and read your story..thats worth an applause)

my top 3:
Speechless (and as someone suggested, NO its not about the country!!!!)
Big Hairy and bloodless
Forty two blue

Its interesting to see so much passion put into criticizing the authors, how about some appreciation for all their hard work????
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Mark Y. May 12, 2007, 11:32am EDT
I didn't know there was a country called Speechless?
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Judi F. May 12, 2007, 3:21pm EDT
Mark, darling, let it go. The comments section is not for literary fiction. They're comments. Go with the flow. And, no, I'm not critiquing you, I'm not against you, I'm just saying that you're on the verge of tumbling into the pathetic and absurd. Don't do it to yourself. Let it go.
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Mark Y. May 12, 2007, 10:11pm EDT
Actually Judi I was hoping for an explanation. I don't think it's me who's absurd, and since I've often had even a typo in a comment thread exploited by a winner well, goose meet gander and all that.
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Abiola A. May 12, 2007, 10:57pm EDT
I liked this chapter! It has mystery and suspense in it a lot! The fact that a man does suicide to himself and everyone really wants to know who the real culprit is exciting. The group tries to investigate about the situation and they go on an adventure to go investigate about the situation kind of makes me wonder what'll happen in the next chapter.
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Mark Y. May 13, 2007, 12:20am EDT
I think "the group" on the whole has this baby pegged. Yes ma'am.
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Geeta M. May 13, 2007, 1:43am EDT
So, Everyone, Mark Y. just left this gracious comment for me on my Chapter page. Here's what he has to say:

"I think I'm getting the picture here. This is the motherlode of comments. 489 and about as 502 votes. What we have here, is the Bangladore Consortium. Silicon Valley day players as it were, on green cards. Might just work with these rules. As for publication. No way."

Mark Y:

If you took the troube to check my comments before making your allegations, you would see that most of the comments are from non-Indian Americans living in the US. AND they were members of Gather long before I even knew about this site. AND most of them aren't from Silicon Valley. But, of course, you don't check facts. You just spew out your venom. And racist venom at that.

I'm not going to communicate with you after this. So feel free to rant and rave until 2078 A.D. I won't be reading any of it. It's just not worth my time.

Have a nice day!
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Geeta M. May 13, 2007, 2:16am EDT
Oh, and Tom d. added this to Mark Y's thread on my chapter page:


"I am SPEECHLESS when I read all the overwhelming comments on this rather disappointing entry - however, I am entertained by comments like the one above by Mark Y.

I think you 've got it figured out Mark!"

Nice, Tom. You find racial slurs entertaining?
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Geoffrey E. May 13, 2007, 2:27am EDT
Mark Y's comments are disgusting. Tom d.'s approval is equally disgusting!
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