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January 9, 2007

Gather.com First Chapters Writing Competition Submission Guidelines

January 10, 2007 04:09 PM EST (Updated: April 05, 2007 04:23 PM EDT)
views: 7935 | rating: 8.5/10 (33 votes) | comments: 195

Eligibility and Submission Guidelines

Eligibility:

• Authors who have not previously published a full length book (excluding self published and vanity press) are eligible to compete in the First Chapters Writing Competition.

• Manuscript submissions (hereafter the “Submissions”) must be original, previously unpublished, completed book length manuscripts in the commercial fiction genre.

• All Submissions must be in English. Submissions must not violate copyright laws; must contain properly cited material, if applicable; and must be previously unpublished (except on Gather.com or as previously noted), original material.

• Writers cannot submit more than one Submission in the Competition.

• You must be 18 or older as of January 11, 2007 and must be a legal resident of the United States or the District of Columbia to be eligible to enter.

• Submissions may not be submitted elsewhere unless and until the entrant has been eliminated from the Competition. By entering your Submission in the Competition, you hereby give Touchstone/Fireside (an imprint of Simon & Schuster) first publication rights to your manuscript until such time as you are eliminated from the Competition.

• This Competition is run only on the Internet.

• By entering this Competition, you agree that if you are selected as the Grand Prize Winner, you will sign Simon & Schuster’s standard publishing agreement within five days of receipt of the agreement.

 

How to Enter:

Before 11:59 PM (EST) Thursday, March 15, 2007, you must complete three (3) steps in order to enter The Gather.com First Chapters Competition:

1) Email your manuscript as an MS Word file attachment or equivalent to: firstchapters@gatherinc.com.

            • The document must be delivered in complete form, drafted in 12 pt. Times New Roman font, 1 inch margins throughout, paginated and double-spaced and must include numbered chapter breaks.

            • You must also break out the first three (3) chapters, sequentially, in a separate document so that they may be posted on Gather.com.

            • The chapters must be clearly numbered and each be between 2,000 and 10,000 words in length. The chapters will be posted in sequential order, chapters 1 through 3 only.

            • The subject of your email must read First Chapters Competition Entry.

            • In the email you must include your name (first, last), email address, manuscript title, manuscript word count, brief 500-750 word synopsis of the plot, 500 word or less author bio.

            • We will email all entrants to confirm receipt of their Submissions.

            • If you have entered the Competition and have not received a confirmation notice of your submission within three business days, please email firstchapters@gatherinc.com.

2) To complete your entry, you must click on the link in your confirmation email to join the First Chapters Competition group on Gather.com. If you have any trouble registering for the site and the First Chapters group, please email firstchapters@gatherinc.com for help. The Competition administrator will post your entry to Gather.com within 2 business days. Submissions will not be returned.

3) If any excerpt from your Submission has been previously published on Gather.com, remove it from the site.

 

How The Competition Judging Will Work:

• Round 1: The first chapters of all valid Submissions will be posted by the competition administrator to firstchapters.gather.com for the community to vote on, for a period of 14 days, when members can read and rate each entry. This means that each entry will be live for 14 days from the date it was posted and entries will be posted as received through the March 15th deadline. At the end of the Round 1 submission/voting period, 20 writers will advance to the next round of competition, 15 based on the highest number of votes and ratings from Gather.com members, and 5 selected by the Gather editorial team.

• Round 2: The second chapters of the 20 remaining writers’ manuscripts are posted for a reading/voting period of three weeks. At the end of the voting period, 10 semifinalists are announced, 7 based on the highest number of votes and ratings from Gather.com members, and 3 selected by the Gather editorial team.

• Round 3: The third chapters of the 10 semifinalists’ manuscripts are posted for a reading/voting period of two weeks. At the end of the voting period, 5 finalists are announced, 4 based on the highest number of votes and ratings from Gather.com members, and 1 selected by the Gather editorial team.

• Round 4: The Grand Prize judging panel -- Carolyn K. Reidy, President of the Simon & Schuster Adult Publishing Group, Mark Gompertz, Executive Vice President and Publisher of Touchstone, Borders Group CEO George Jones and Gather.com Founder and CEO, Tom Gerace -- will select 1 Grand Prize Winner to receive a $5,000 cash prize from Gather.com, and publication of the book by The Touchstone imprint of Simon & Schuster.

 

Notes on Judging: Gather will monitor the Competition for irregular voting patterns and fraud, and will disqualify votes and entrants if, in the Sponsor’s sole judgment, we determine that the integrity or fairness of the Competition has been, or could be, compromised. Entrants are eligible to vote in the Competition but are expected to do so fairly and in the spirit of the competition.

 

The “editors’ pick” winners throughout the competition will be selected at the Gather.com editorial team’s discretion, and will be selected independent of member ratings and number of votes. The editorial team will judge entries on the criteria listed below.

 

All members who vote in the Competition as well as the Grand Prize judging panel must consider the following criteria equally when judging: 1) Quality of writing (including grammar and spelling); 2) Author’s ability to engage the reader; 3) Originality of the author's voice; 4) Potential of the finished book in the marketplace.

 

Competition Calendar:

January 11, 2007 – May 31, 2007

 

Round 1: 12 Weeks (approx.)

        • 1/11/07: Launch of competition submission period for full manuscripts. Each valid submission’s first chapter is posted by contest administrator to the First Chapters site for a 14 day voting period by Gather members.

        • 3/15/07: At 11:59 pm EST the Competition submission period closes, but voting continues for two more weeks for first chapters received on the final day.

        • 3/29/07: Round 1 voting ends

        • 4/3/07: 20 Round 1 winners announced

Round 2: 4 Weeks (approx.)

        • 4/3/07: 20 second chapters from Round 1 winners’ Submissions go live on the First Chapters site for a three week voting period by Gather members.

        • 4/25/07: Round 2 voting period ends

        • 5/1/07: 10 Round 2 winners announced

Round 3: 3 Weeks (approx.)

        • 5/1/07: 10 third chapters from Round 2 winners’ Submissions go live on the First Chapters site for a two week voting period by Gather members.

        • 5/16/07: Round 3 Voting period ends

        • 5/22/07: 5 Finalists announced

Round 4: 1 Week (approx.)

        • 5/23/07: 5 Finalists submissions sent to judging panel

        • 5/31/07: WINNER ANNOUNCED

 

Read the Complete Contest Rules & Regulations here.

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Comments: 195

Martha Jette, Author/Editor Jan 10, 2007, 9:32pm EST
Darn it! Again, only the U.S.!
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Jan 10, 2007, 10:28pm EST
Regarding: Notes on Judging: Gather will monitor the Competition for irregular voting patterns and fraud, and will disqualify votes and entrants if, in the Sponsor's sole judgment, we determine that the integrity or fairness of the Competition has been, or could be, compromised. Entrants are eligible to vote in the Competition but are expected to do so fairly and in the spirit of the competition.

Does "compromised integrity" include:

creating multiple identities with which to vote

rating friends ten stars and non-friends one star, regardless of the quality of the work

ignoring spelling and punctuation (I realize this was specified in the article, but ask for clarification since there are a number of Gather memers who maintain that these things do not matter, criticize anyone who says they do, and demonstrate little command of them in their work. Will Gather closely monitor the voting patterns of these members throughout the contest?)
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Cynthia Leigh Jan 10, 2007, 10:34pm EST
The title to the competition is kind of misleading. I have an outline and a good base "first chapter", but not an entire manuscript. I think it might be best to change the title of the comp because it makes it sound like it's a competition of a book's first chapter, as opposed to competition between completed books.
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David Rochester Jan 11, 2007, 1:46am EST
As with the Amazon Shorts, this sounds to me far more like a popularity contest than a valid writing competition. Then again, that is perhaps accurately reflective of today's publishing world.
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Lisa "Queen Wombat" F. Jan 11, 2007, 1:51am EST
I guess nothing has been posted yet, or am I missing something obvious?
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Travis B. Jan 11, 2007, 1:54am EST
I wished I have a full story to submit...It would be cool if they had a contest for ongoing stories...say a publishing company that already made a lot of money said 'hey..we like your writing...here's a hundred bucks to keep cranking it out every month till it is done." That wouldn't be much different than the Corps gather is trying to set up now.
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David Rochester Jan 11, 2007, 2:25am EST
I wonder whether the standard publishing contract will be available for review prior to entering the contest? Is the $5000 cash prize the only monetary consideration, or will the publisher also pay an advance? Of course, advances for first novels aren't great these days, but if it's something with actual promise, the author would probably be better off to get an agent and have a negotiated contract. Publication is one thing . . . promotion and distribution are equally important, and my guess is that the standard contract provides very little of either for an unknown writer.
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Mark C. Jan 11, 2007, 3:47am EST
Is calling something "nothing more than a popularity contest" and "over before it starts" just another way of saying that one won't be entering the contest? Personally, I'm looking forward to entering and letting my work speak for itself. If it can overcome the problems you all have thus far suggested, I'll just be that much more proud of it.

If not, well there's always the old fashioned way that we should be using, anyway. Regardless, I think it sounds like fun.

Let the games begin!
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Susan H. Jan 11, 2007, 6:37am EST
Amen, Mark! I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Lisa S. Jan 11, 2007, 6:39am EST
I've been waiting for something like this. :o)
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Rory M. Jan 11, 2007, 6:51am EST
So, Canadians are shut out?
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Max Babi Jan 11, 2007, 8:47am EST
Damn damn damn, Tom Gerace and gang, again Only For U.S. residents!
sigh...
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Fred Hose Jan 11, 2007, 8:54am EST
So South Africans are shut out too?
Are those that are shut out, allowed to approach Simon and Shuster directly?
Will Firstchapter help these excluded ones to be reviewed by Simon and Shuster?
It would help us tremendously. Please and thank you.
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Rose H. Jan 11, 2007, 9:01am EST
Interesting discussion.
Unfortunately, I do not have a complete publication ready novel to send in and I doubt I could write an entire novel in two months.

David and Mark both have valid points, results may be a bit skewed in a "popularity contest" and hey, if you decide not to enter because of that, better chances for someone else. David has a point on the promotion and distribution too, but then again this is a chance to get your work out there. So, why not take a chance?

Obviously, it is a good idea to have an editor team be part of the decision process since they will have a good feel for what may sell in the market place. So I say take your chances and forget about all the reasons why this may or may not be a good thing.
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Barin M. Jan 11, 2007, 9:12am EST
I think that why this is for only US Residents? Why gather team is promoting this narrowness? Whats the real meaning of GATHER ? We all are not contributing and responding to every good thing comes across? Well I hope that this will be reached to real persons and all will join and say/express for such a thing!
Yea i am agree with Max Babi!!
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Roberta D. Jan 11, 2007, 9:17am EST
The winner of Greenlight and all of these contests are based on how many friends you have that are willing to go on line and vote for you. I'm sure you've noticed that it's that way in politics now also. You can go onto Move.com or DraftObama.com (and in no way am I singling them out, just using them as examples) and vote two or three times as long as you do so from a different screenname. Greenlight had a question procedure for making sure one actually read the script. But, the person who wrote the script could easily give the answers to their friends so that their friends could vote and undermine the process. It's all a part of the game of life these days. I take it all in stride and with good humor. And if you've been in the writing world for any amount of time, that means you also have a good sense of humor. Without it, how else could we stay safe and sane. Keep the faith.
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J M. Jan 11, 2007, 9:35am EST
Is this a real contest? I'm new at this entering and it sounds fishy, at best, to me.

Agent! HA! How the heck do you get one of THOSE! Ya gotta be 'known' don't cha?!!!

Writing is a pleasre but that is where it stops..... I suppose!
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John E. Jan 11, 2007, 9:36am EST
I also don't understand the restriction to US residents. Do we in the US need this kind of protection? Maybe, but I think it should be open to anyone who can submit a manuscript in English.

As for the fairness of the competition: if you can't say something nice, don't bother. You know full well that little or nothing in life is fair. Certainly nothing in the publishing world. Carping is not writing.
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Clive Mainwaring Jan 11, 2007, 9:38am EST
Gather Free to join, oh Boy I thought at last a fair intermediary of like minded people. www.usa@gather.usa.com perhaps would be better.

How sad we're all left out, just as well, maybe the competition would be far greater and less chance to win.

Maybe David Icke is right?.
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Dennis Leppanen Jan 11, 2007, 9:40am EST
What are the perameters? What is considered a complete novel? I strive for 80,000 words. Is it more...is it less?
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Doug J. Jan 11, 2007, 9:48am EST
Does Publish America count as self-publishing/vanity press?
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Jorja L. Jan 11, 2007, 9:48am EST
I agree Cynthia! I knew I shouldn't have put off my writing! lol
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Robyn F. Jan 11, 2007, 10:08am EST
I could understand calling it a First Chapter contest if that's what it was, obviously it's not. Wouldn't that be considered false advertising? I'm a little confused on why it has to be a full manuscript if it's really about the first chapter.
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Ernie (Author of DESTINY OF THE DIVAS) Johnson Jan 11, 2007, 10:10am EST
Yee Haa, finally a chance to be published. I am anxious to enter OVERTURNED in the competition.
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Tarek N. Jan 11, 2007, 10:17am EST
"You must also break out the first three (3) chapters, sequentially, in a separate document so that they may be posted on Gather.com" .... Does this mean that three additional separate Word docs for chapters 1, 2 and 3 shuld be submitted besides the original full length manuscript?
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Scott Baker Jan 11, 2007, 10:18am EST
I can't decide if I will enter. I do have a complete novel, though I am paring it down from 432,000 words to 400,000 or so. You can see the pre-pared down version at Authorlink: http://www.authorlink.com/writers/detail/734. However, my first chapter is an historical setup, written in a deliberately different style and may not be the lapel grabber everyone seems to want these days. I think I'll continue to focus on getting it ready for Lulu - they have a 700 page maximum anyway, so that is forcing me in a good way to cut it down (694pgs now in 10cpi .5" margins etc.), plus 6-10 pics I intend to add. I'm looking at my novel as a complete package now, not just the prologue to be submitted here. I think that's the only way to market work these days - to focus in on your audience and sell the packaged experience to them, not just the opening words.
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Kelly T. Jan 11, 2007, 10:42am EST
I have been worried about all the gossip of the natives, but I am not discouraged! I will see you on the inside of the contest! I want the more people to compete the better, if alot of people compete then we can show those gossipers that we are here for the literary contest not for illegal popular voting! Good luck to EVERYONE!
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Ken C. Jan 11, 2007, 10:51am EST
This venue is great for those with completed manuscripts gathering dust on the bookshelf. For those of us "slow" writers, are there any future competitions planned so when we are eventually done with our best sellers we can then dust them off and submit, submit, submit.
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Pleasurebound W. Jan 11, 2007, 10:59am EST
I would recommend being extremely careful entering a novel you wish to publish in the future. Often, print publishers get all freaky if you have previously published, and it is a grey area when a work becomes available for public viewing on the internet. You could be setting yourself up. But, if you are into the self-publishing or vanity press route, that's different.
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Vijayashankar M. Jan 11, 2007, 11:05am EST
Seems to be a wonderful idea! I hope the Asian Indian community gets recognized once again! (there is no bias here.) Just unearthing the best around.
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David Rochester Jan 11, 2007, 11:14am EST
I apologize if I have sounded negative; that wasn't really my intent, but it does bother me that by simply entering the contest, the contestants are agreeing, if they win, to sign, within five days, a contract which it does not seem they will have had the benefit of having seen and reviewed beforehand. Most people are not prepared to interpret the legal language of a publishing contract -- that's part of what your agent does for you.

I suppose I could answer this next question by researching the Touchstone imprint, but . . . it's also not stated in what form the book will be published. I imagine that the contestants will be picturing hardcover, but perhaps it will actually be trade paperback, or even mass market paperback.

To J M -- No, you don't have to be known to get an agent. I managed to get an agent at a very respectable small agency, although I had no publishing credits at all.
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Stephanie L. Jan 11, 2007, 11:27am EST
Maybe the "First Chapters" is a double meaning-It seems this contest is meant to provide first time writers with their first chance. Maybe we're all being a little too "literal" and quick to complain.
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Jerry H. Jan 11, 2007, 11:48am EST
I wonder if the work that has been circling around in my excuse for a mind for the last 40 years will behave itself long enough to get down on paper and I can submit. If I use my laptop and lock myself away in the bathroom for a while each day I MIGHT get it done in 3 months...then again...oh, yes, the rewriting...gotta save a few weeks for that...hmmm...grammar and spelling (who was it that wrote everything in lower case?) and...oh, well, guess I'll just read what the real artists produce.
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David J. Jan 11, 2007, 12:01pm EST
"By entering this Competition, you agree that if you are selected as the Grand Prize Winner, you will sign Simon & Schuster's standard publishing agreement within five days of receipt of the agreement."

Is it possible to read the terms of this agreement before submitting our entry?
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Beth B. Jan 11, 2007, 12:06pm EST
I second David J.'s comment. I would love to have the issue of "Simon & Schuster's standard publishing agreement" addressed, and would love to read the terms, and amend them as needed, BEFORE signing. I want to sign the most advatageous contract (for me) possible. Remember, Fellow Writers, the publishers need our content. We are the source of media and culture. We hold that power. They need us, not the other way around. I look forward to seeing you all on the dance floor of this competition.
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Mike Udin Jan 11, 2007, 12:11pm EST
This sounds really interesting but I would like to do this more for a friendly competition rather than for a contract. I admit that I don't really keep up with things around here so if I have missed some other opportunity unwittingly I apologize in advance. In any case, I'd better start writing if there's even a remote chance of me finishing by the deadline. Good luck to everyone.
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Aniko     Jan 11, 2007, 12:15pm EST
It would be helpful though if the exact legal issues behind the "legal U.S. resident only" were explained. Publishers obviously publish works by authors in other countries, and those writers receive royalties. All of this, as far as I understand, does not count as "employment", which would be what US law prohibits. So what are the legal issues? And exactly how is "legal US resident" defined? Can a US citizen living abroad enter? How about non-US-citizens legally present and living in the US for a longer period, but not permanent residents--people on student or work visas (and their relatives), who are authorized to work for a specific company/institution only (or in the case of the dependents, not at all). Can they enter?
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Walker Bennett, SF Author Jan 11, 2007, 12:15pm EST
The "U.S. residents only" requirement has to do with the multitude of taxing authorities around the world and isn't Gather's fault. They're currently working to complete agreements with most of the different countries represented here, but it's a tedious and time-consuming process.

I've been assured that negotiations are close now for Canadians, and that Europe and Australia should be included around mid-year.
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Layla Morgan Wilde Jan 11, 2007, 12:16pm EST
If anyone is lucky enough to be the winner, they and not the publisher are in the catbird seat. I would have an entertainment attorney look over the contract and negotiate the terms. If they don't agree, I'm sure another publisher would be interested given all the publicity.
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Brian H. Jan 11, 2007, 12:30pm EST
Well, I read about this competition in the NYT today and was immediately excited. A bit of a downer to read the comments here. But I'm going to submit my novel anyway. The absolute worst that can happen is that I will be in the same place that I am now, namely, a man with a completed novel and no place for it to go. So good luck to all fellow contestants. I look forward to reading your stuff!

As a side note, I am a lawyer and have been for some years. I wouldn't stake my life or reputation on this, but an agreement "that if you are selected as the Grand Prize Winner, you will sign Simon & Schuster's standard publishing agreement within five days of receipt of the agreement" seems unenforceable. I know of no state where the law will enforce an agreement, the terms of which are unknown until after the parties are bound. It seems morel likely that failure to sign the agreement could simply disqualify the winner. Maybe there'll be a lawsuit out of it.
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Aniko     Jan 11, 2007, 12:31pm EST
This is why I'm asking, Walker. If it's about taxes, US citizens abroad might not qualify, since they are taxed in their country of residence, but anyone who is living in the US and filing taxes here might.
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Deshana H. Jan 11, 2007, 12:31pm EST
It seems as if the "within five days" is the time Simon & Schuster is giving you to review the agreement? They don't say five hours, where you have no time to find someone. If by the third round you are still in the competition, it would probably be smart to have someone on hand to read through it in case you win. it's all about being prepared! Also, as an avid reader- i always read-about 3 pages when i'm not sure of a book or it's author to determine whether i might like the book. "First Chapters" allows the reader to judge by how quickly they become engrossed in the story (remember, it IS commercial fiction they're looking for) and i think the reason for them wanting a full manuscript is probably because after three chapters, many writers get stymied! how much of a backfire would it be if they agreed to publish based on three chapters and the writer can't figure out how to finish?? (you know there's at least a couple of lead chapters for different books scattered around your room/office!)
anyway, just my thoughts on the comments :)
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Nikki Tate Jan 11, 2007, 12:35pm EST
Canada and the USA already have a reciprocal tax agreement... Many, many Canadians publish regularly in the US. Many have contracts with big US publishers. What's to negotiate?
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Aniko     Jan 11, 2007, 2:30pm EST
The rules also state that 1. the novel must be complete; and 2. it must not be submitted anywhere else. I wonder how many of those are there.

And if they want people to start working like crazy to finish those in-progress novels that every has languishing in the drawer or on their hard drive, perhaps a longer submission period would be needed.
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nathaniel s. Jan 11, 2007, 2:40pm EST
do you want your unpublished ideas to be known to all.... I dont! Many people are going to enter the chances are slim.
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sherryl n. Jan 11, 2007, 3:03pm EST
Good luck to all. I'm submitting and we'll see how it goes.
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Leah Macekura Jan 11, 2007, 3:18pm EST
hmm competition, the threat of litigation, 3 months of suspense....sounds like the makings of a novel...*giggle*
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Arlene H. Jan 11, 2007, 3:24pm EST
Three months is not a very long time to perfect a novel. Wish they'd asked for a chapter at a time as I first thought they meant. Re the only America thing: it's a shame, but Canadian contests aren't usually open to Americans, either. Lots of luck to those who do submit.
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Henry F. Jan 11, 2007, 3:39pm EST
I just happen to have a novel with only the first chapter complete. Coincidence? But I work too slow to finish it in less than three months. So I really think the competition should literally be "First Chapter" as advertised. Any writer who can capture an audience within the 1st chapter deserves to be published. And the five grand first prize could be considered an advance on a work in progress. This is a good competition with a misleading title. I'm wondering how many great writers might miss out because they don't have a finished work or the time to meet the deadline. I'm torn on what to do. Ah, maybe I'll go for it and see what happens.
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Ashley Martinez Jan 11, 2007, 3:42pm EST
Wow! Great conversations with many outstanding points. My novel is close to being finished, but still not ready. I'm actively working on it and unlike Scott baker, my novel needs increased :P I just finished the reread, now I'm onto the synopsis, additions, and revisions. I'm looking forward to this process! As for the contest, I just don't know. whomever does enter, good luck!!!
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Carol B. Jan 11, 2007, 4:05pm EST
At the risk of alienating everyone with my first posting, my first impression is that this group has a lot of whiners and complainers who, I respectfully submit, should be quiet and get to work. First, it's the right of the contest organizers to define it how they want. Also, in case you haven't noticed, writing is a tremendous risk. We all run the risk of pouring heart and soul into a work only to have the best we can do be not so good. Or worse. If that happens, it's no one's fault but our own, and we should learn what the problems are and work to fix them. No one can defeat us but ourselves. I've learned more from rejections than from praise. So good luck to everyone!
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Edward W. Jan 11, 2007, 4:44pm EST
I can't believe some of the attitudes I'm reading here. How many of us have been writing for years and not come close to getting a publishing contract? The fact that someone is throwing one out to us as a prize is a fairly awesome thing.

I have a tiny concern about the fact that some people may campaign to get their 100 friends to vote for them, and spam another 1000 to vote for them, whereas I'll just submit, sit back and see what happens. But you know what, it's a thousand or more times better than buying a lottery ticket. At least you have a chance if you have the skill.

For those of you that are so worried about the contract, the easy solution is: don't worry about it. No one is forcing you to compete. If you're so good that you feel you should be able to negotiate the contract in advance, then clearly you should be out there talking to some other publisher and giving them the opportunity to represent you on your terms. What are you doing considering such a contest as this.

Phone Voice: Mr. B., you've just won a million dollars!

Mr. B.: Um, how is that going to be delivered? Because I don't want too many large bills, and I think it should come in a stylish attache. If it's gonna be just in some kind of cheap, canvas bag or something, that's not going to be acceptable - I have standards you know, and a reputation to consider.

My viewpoint is that someone is offering me a lucky chance at my life's dream. That is one gift horse I'll take without any oral inspection whatsoever.

I think some people need to lighten up and consider what winning would mean. Your alternative is to dismiss this and wait for another one to come along that meets all of your needs, demands and expectations.

For those that are confused about the title, it's pretty simple. The publisher is looking to publish a complete book. Said books will compete against each other one chapter at a time. With a limited number of rounds to compete in, only the First Chapters will be doing the competing.

To everyone else, I wish you the best of luck - but only up until the end. :-)
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Sueann S. Jan 11, 2007, 4:57pm EST
There will always be naysayers and paranoids who can find a problem with anything. Many of them make good points, but you have to remember they're looking from a different perspective than you. I've read the "fine print" for the contest, and personally don't find anything I can't live with, so I plan to submit my manuscript. My reasoning?
1. Simon & Schuster is a very reputable publishing house.
2. As an unpublished author, I realize that even with an agent, a publishing house is unlikely to make many concessions on their contract.
3. The writing organization that I belong to, Romance Writers of America, has reviewed all the major houses' contracts, and hasn't reported any unusually ugly Gotcha's! with S&S.
4. My manuscript has already made the rounds of most publishers and is back in my desk drawer, so what the hay?
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Marcelo M. Jan 11, 2007, 6:12pm EST
I guess that means I have to finish my manuscript by March. I've written eighteen chapters already. I wish that you had a competition for works in progress.
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Bob F. Jan 11, 2007, 6:50pm EST
Many people are mentioning getting their work done in three months.

It's TWO months, not three, that you have until the deadline. Just wanting those who think they have three months to be aware they have only two.

Good luck everybody :-)
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Beth B. Jan 11, 2007, 7:27pm EST
Thanks for your input Brian H. Yes, if I get that far in the competition, I'll have an entertainment lawyer lined up to review the contract.

On another note, when the rules say, "Submissions may not be submitted elsewhere unless and until the entrant has been eliminated from the Competition," do they mean submitted to other publishers only, or to literary agents as well?
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Kevin M. Jan 11, 2007, 8:09pm EST
I would like to participate in this contest. I have a completed manuscript. Unfortunately for this venue, it is over 1,000 pages long. Each chapter averages around 60 - 80 pages. I can email one chapter at a time, but not the entire book in one submission. Is mailing one chapter at a time permissible?

Also, how is the term "commercial fiction" defined? My work is a fantasy. Does that qualify?
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Susan Marie Jan 11, 2007, 11:11pm EST
This is a great opportunity for all aspiring writers. I feel blessed to be gifted with the ability to write, let alone a chance to participate in something that promotes my writing. Enjoy, have fun and most importantly, Good Luck!
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Cee Cee Jan 11, 2007, 11:34pm EST
Commerical fiction means mainstream fiction, not genre fiction like SF, mysteries, fantasy, romances, thrillers, Westerns, etc.

Standard word length for commerical fiction usually between 80-95,000 words, depending on the publisher.....
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Shelundra S. Jan 11, 2007, 11:48pm EST
After three years of work, I get my chance!
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Mi Hyea L. Jan 11, 2007, 11:48pm EST
Wow! This sounds like an awesome competition! I think that this competition is worthwhile and sincere in its intentions, though there are plenty of restrictions that apply to it. I would apply, but I have no complete works right now, and I'm too young. Oh well. To all of you applying, good luck!
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Donna M. Jan 12, 2007, 12:00am EST
If the gather members are the ones voting, what happens if you're new, does that mean no one looks at your manuscript?
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Sheila L. Jan 12, 2007, 12:26am EST
"The chapters should be clearly numbered and be between 2,000 and 10,000 words in length. "

Is that supposed to be the length of each chapter or of all three first chapters or of the total ms?
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Sheila L. Jan 12, 2007, 12:32am EST
Also, please give some examples of novels that are considered "mainstream fiction." I don't quite know where my novel fits in. It has romance in it, but it's not really a romance novel. It's more of an inspirational than anything else, but it's diferent from most I've read.
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Shelundra S. Jan 12, 2007, 12:50am EST
Well, I guess I will wait a tad bit later after all. I write Fantasy! Good luck to those of you who can give this competition a try.
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Carol P. Jan 12, 2007, 1:26am EST
By the way, it is nearly impossible for unknown, fantastic writers to get published. Very few decision makers in the very corporate world of publishing have the guts to follow any editor's instincts, but require evidence of prospective profits before they'll publish a book.
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JAANGSILLUNG GONMEI Jan 12, 2007, 3:06am EST
ELATED, at first on reading about the "First Chapter" writing competition. But SADDENED on realising that it is only for US citizens.WHY an international internet forum like GATHER.com has to cater only a section of its patrons. WE all deserve a place in the sun. I HOPE GATHER CHANGES ITS RULES AND INCLUDE ALL ITS PATRONS.
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Frugal 1stMillionAt33 Jan 12, 2007, 5:19am EST
The chance of having a completed manuscript ready is close to zero unless you already have something.
I wish they did this contest for nonfiction genre where submission usually doesn't require a full manuscript, but just a few chapters.
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BS Murthy Jan 12, 2007, 6:03am EST
Instead of counting the eggs before hatching, a campaign against this 'U.S Only' criteria would help serve the cause of US Gatherers better.
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Marsha P. Jan 12, 2007, 7:54am EST
What a break for the writing community! Time to rock n roll.
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Gladys B. Jan 12, 2007, 9:58am EST
I think this competition offers the unpublished author an opportunity for exposure. From all the negative comments I've read, I don't see how there's going to be a winner. No one seems to take this challenge seriously. I for one am looking forward to it.
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don c. Jan 12, 2007, 12:43pm EST
Blessed with stage 3 cancer and a work in progress (for my own amusement), I look forward to others reading my written thoughts. May I suggest perhaps by completing our respective novels, we have already won a personal contest. If some read the work, then even better. Lighten up-believe me, life is too short to bitch about this contest. Respectfully Don
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Dolphi D. Jan 12, 2007, 1:38pm EST
Good opportunity for unpublished authors. The geographical limitation is a sore point for many. Internet has no geographical limitations and tends to fade the political boundaries. But, unfortunately, the cumbersome laws are drastically slow in keeping pace with the growth of internet. Gather, as a pioneer in creating a global community, should work out ways to circumvent those legal hurdles.
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Robert M. Jan 12, 2007, 2:31pm EST
Does the manuscript have to be finished, before I can send it in? I am still working on the twefth chapter. Can just send what I wrote so far?
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First Chapters Administrator Jan 12, 2007, 2:33pm EST
Thank you to everyone for all of the great questions!

We have posted a separate article to answer some of the most frequently asked questions. We will continually update this article as new questions come in.
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Robin L. A. Jan 12, 2007, 3:49pm EST
It is about time!
I have complianed about the American people loosing their imagination for far too long. It has shown in our movies. Now some of us can prove we still have it.
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Lisa S. Jan 12, 2007, 4:14pm EST
I've just joined Gather because of this contest, so if anything, its gotten me off my comfy coach and into my writing chair again.

Good luck to all! I'll be polishing away the rough edges for the next month or so.
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Colleen D. Jan 12, 2007, 5:15pm EST
First Chapters Administrator,

Could you clarify the part of the guidelines which states: "Send your Submission as an MS Word file attachment or equivalent...."

What's "an equivalent?" I don't have MS Word (I use a less common word processing program). Would a pdf be an acceptable format for entry?

Thanks for your time.
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Amy K. Jan 12, 2007, 6:25pm EST
I was thrilled to read about this competetion. I have 3-4 MS done, but I always feel like they need more editing. I guess I will do a re read and pick the best one. Like someone else said, if nothing else it will get me off my non writing behind.
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First Chapters Administrator Jan 12, 2007, 6:31pm EST
Some people have asked when the first entries will be available for reading and rating. We will post the first eligible entries starting Monday, January 15th.
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Katherine M. Jan 12, 2007, 6:41pm EST
I would like to chat with David Rochester 1 on 1. Could you email me, or give me your email address?
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Tom G. Jan 12, 2007, 8:16pm EST
Hmm..I'm unsure about this contest.
On one hand it is a wonderful oppurtunity for an unknown to get a break; getting work out there is priceless. On the other hand, I have read some very real concerns that have yet to be answered.
I see question after question in most of the comments regarding the publishing contract and just what it entails, but no answers are offered, other than the general "c'mon take a chance/whaddya got to lose" from fellow writers. Our work does have value, and this looks like a pretty sweet deal for the publisher if one of us puts a real page turner out there.
One of my ms' could probably be completed within the time frame, but I'm unsure if it fits the genre. It is based on the experiences of my father kept in a journal during his time a a B-17 crew member and POW in Nazi Germany during WW 2, therefore, not exactly fiction. Those that have read it so far say it is a very good read, but it's more a thrilling account of a horrific year in his life. Does that count? Oh well, I'm writing it in memory of him and for family, rather than for profit anyway.
I have an outline for another book, strangely enough, based on a dream I had. (no more pizza before bed...or maybe MORE if it turns out!) It centers on a cold blooded high tech killer with a lot of skeletons in his closet that the reader will actually root for. It has a definite feel of a storyline and main character(s) that would be very easy to continue into more books...exactly what publishers look for.
Of course it would be impossible to finish in time now, but I can't help but ask myself if I really want to enter a possible SERIES of books in a contest that offers little more than five thousand up front and no info otherwise. If it WERE done and I decided to enter it, I'd have to see more details before doing so.
I think I'll read the entries, enjoy them and learn from them. Good luck to all of you!! :)
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James M. Jan 12, 2007, 8:19pm EST
I too am here because I saw an article about this contest in a news story and thought it would be a good opportunity. I've got Book one in a series done, two is almost (needs some revising) and a healthy start on 3 & 4 with two more planned. Sounds like this is what I need to get back to working on them instead of the short stories I've been posting on another site...
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Carolyn A. Jan 12, 2007, 8:19pm EST
Hey, I'd just love the opportunity for people to read my first three chapters. I have a completed manuscript so with the time allowed, I'll fine tune it and then send it in. How many writers works do they plan to show at a time? What if thousands enter?
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Susana P. Jan 12, 2007, 8:38pm EST
it is completely unfair (to say the least) that you have to be 18 to enter. i am 17, just a year short of meeting the qualifications and have been working for almost 3 years on my own book. why 18? is there something that says that because you are young you have no talent? i suggest there be a competition for younger writers because we deserve a chance to be heard too. What do you think? Am i right? (and i'm sure i am!)
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mike g. Jan 12, 2007, 10:27pm EST
man! if everything here is as hard as signing in to be a member, then nothing will ever happen. it took me 10 minutes to fill the sign-in requirements...!

Anyway...if they only plan to ever publish 3 chapters, why do they want the ENTIRE ms...?
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Debra J. Jan 12, 2007, 11:33pm EST
I love to write. It's a thrill to see where your imagination can take you! It's even more satisfying when folks read your work and tell you how good it is!
So I say to everyone," lighten up" and enjoy the opportunity! Obviously we are ALL still in the "Unpublished Category" therefore, what do we really have to loose?
It's not JUSTabout the $$$, it's also about Self accomplishment and Recognition.
So, share your work with others and be greatful that you were given such a talent.
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Vickie M. Jan 13, 2007, 5:26am EST
Ok, I'm confused. Does this mean that this thing is *only* supposed to be three chapters long, and that we have to turn those three chapters into Gather? Or do we write the first three chapters, pull them out and submit them to Gather, and then continue on with the rest of our book?
These instructions have me totally confused, and I would appreciate any feedback at all!
Thankx!

~~Vickie
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Free Wheelan Jan 13, 2007, 5:56am EST
Hi
I have entered the first chapters however dont know if i did it right.
I joined first chapters and am a member and posted my work
it is an introduction to the book which is essential to give the reader the basis feeling for the rest of the book. Is this allowed? Or do I neeed to post 1st chapter alongside the intro.
Free
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David Rochester Jan 13, 2007, 9:24am EST
Gather, I wonder whether you have considered that since the community's opinion will be instrumental in deciding the winner, it would even the playing field if submissions were published under the First Chapters Administrator's name ONLY, with no identification of the author. People who have been on Gather for months, who have hundreds of supportive connections . . . clearly those people have a huge advantage as far as community support. I just don't see how this can possibly be equitable. It looks to me as though people are joining Gather simply to enter this contest, and they should have an equal chance to win. But with community participation set up as it is, there's little hope for them. If the community actually had to read and honestly respond to each submission without knowing who wrote it, then this would be a fair and valid contest, in my opinion. As it is . . . how can the work possibly truly be judged on its merits, when some submitters will have the advantage of prefabricated community support?
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Gary T. Jan 13, 2007, 10:32am EST
I discovered about "First Chapters" on Yahoo! Yesterday. It sounded like a great opportunity to do something with the books I have written and never did anything with! I used to try but the rejection notices kept piling up so I got discouraged. It would be great if the submissions were assigned a number so the people reading it couldn't identify who wrote it until the very end. Then those new comers' wouldn't feel like it is all a done deal. Still, I got stirred up enough to join Gathers, and look over my work for the most promising...they really are like choosing between children sometimes...Good Writing..and may the best keyboard cross the finish line...
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Becky R. Jan 13, 2007, 11:12am EST
I have a question. Does a "MS Word file attachment or equivalent to" mean a Works or RTF document will work as an equivalent?
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Carolyn A. Jan 13, 2007, 11:19am EST
Yes, is it too late for the rules to be adjusted to allow for anonymous chapters?
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