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by Glome . . .
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March 16, 2008

Love WHO Lord? %&!!$#%&! Enemy #1

December 03, 2008 09:38 AM EST (Updated: December 08, 2008 12:56 AM EST)
views: 288 | comments: 137

This is for Christians or non Christians.  I've watched it work for either.

I had lived a short time with bitterness toward another woman.  I hated it. It consumed too, too much of my thoughts and energy. I finally got over the feelings & determined I would never let myself feel that way again.

Then my husband left me for a friend I had introduced him to. The snake slithered in again: jealousy and bitterness.
 I told God I couldn't do this. I couldn't live with bitterness. So He began to lead me into the way of escape.

No one can just choose to stop feeling deeply hurt, angry and bitter. But God spelled the way of escape out in the Bible and I'd never seen it before. Neither had I heard this wonderful plan He had drummed through much of the New Testament preached on.   Commands, but not in applied detail. I had never gotten the picture.

No matter how bad your circumstance ... how bad your bitterness ... or anger ... or hate ... or jealousy ... God's plan will set you free. And for most or your circumstances, it will actually be fun.  The law for loving your enemy is like gravity; it works for everyone.

Please don't think your situation is different. God knew all about you and your problem long before He presented this plan; and He included you :)

I'm doing a short series in a couple of days on 'Loving Your Enemy.'

                                        And there are some incredible answers.

But first things first.  Humility and Honesty HAS to proceed your participation.

No one wants to admit being bitter; resentful; jealous; filled with hatred. So we clinch our teeth and say "No I have nothing against anyone. I try to love everyone."

Yeah, right :)
I hope that's true. :)  I'm sure you WISH it was true. You want it to be true. And for some of you it is true.   But can you look GOD in the eye and say it is true?  If you can, great.  But many have carried anger and bitterness for years.  Is that you? Today is the day to admit it because God offers complete and total freedom if you are willing to let Him make that change in you.

Some get ticked easily ... all the time. Short lived bitterness is a regular part of life. Is that you? Today is the day to admit it because God offers complete and total freedom.

Some call it jealousy. Someone comes into your group that does better than you in your own strengths. Slips easily into your position. Jealousy abounds. You're ashamed but . . . Today is the day to admit it because God offers complete and total freedom.

How many sit down to read, Bible or text book or fiction ... and all of a sudden you realize your mind has been feasting on the anger you have toward the one that does not deserve to be forgiven. You haven't been reading or praying at all. Who does your mind gravitate to? How many are involved? Today is the day to admit it because God offers complete and total freedom.

Who does your mind migrate to when you are lying in bed at night?  When you're driving alone in the car?  What neighbor do you pretend not to see so you don't have to speak to them?

Swallow your pride and shame and take this small step today. We will go through this in a short series that will be kind of fun.

All the comments today need to be along one line. Put down the initials of the one (or many) (Long lists appreciated :) you hold bitterness or jealousy toward. Or ...

Write one word that will speak to you regarding the hateful situation. Or ...

Write a few sentence description of the problem. Or ...

Write a whole list of the people that cause you grief. Or ...

Write a word or initial of the people that irritate you to death when you are around them. Or ...

If you have a minor child that fights this problem ... put his/her enemies down. You'll learn how to help them love their enemy too.  Or ...

 Any other way you want to take the step of admitting this problem.

You don't need to feel ashamed. I know you hate having the feeling as much as I did. I'm very proud of anyone choosing to participate.

Later, if you think of another name that needs to be added ... either add a 2nd comment or delete your first one and make your additions and re post. Order should not be important because each of these comments are for your own individual good.

I once asked a close friend to make a list when I was giving this lesson to two women. I had praised God that He brought her because she was the most bitter woman I knew. She stared at the paper a moment, & then said sweetly, "You know I can't think of a single person I'm mad or bitter at." I was dumb struck. We went through the whole thing & she was proud as a peacock at her maturity. She is still bitter.

So don't be too quick to decide you don't have any bitter, angry or jealous feelings; you may be the only one who doesn't know :)

We'll start our adventure in a couple of days.

I wish you well on your list. :)   If you feel too uncomfortable to add yourself to the list ... grit your teeth and do it anyway. It may be the first day of the rest of your life :)

                                                                             Love Your Enemy #2

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Comments: 137

Katie Scarlett (Site Bouncer Wanna Be) O. Dec 3, 2008, 9:43am EST
This is very good. I learned to 'let go and let God' a few years back and this has helped tremendously. When I find I can't release the anger or bitterness, I ask God to take it over and I agree that He will deal with the person or situation as He sees fit, rather than what I would like.
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FRED R. Dec 3, 2008, 9:47am EST
good post
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Jennifer aka Jenn B. Dec 3, 2008, 9:48am EST
Once I learned my dislike didn't hurt the person I disliked ...only me...I learned to get over it....I'm not into any form of pain..LOL
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:50am EST
Come on you two ... :) Is there no neighbor, relative, even friend that you have a little attitude about? We need to see some lists.

Sometimes an 'enemy' is just temporary. A child or spouse we're ticked at. On the other hand maybe Gather is such a good emotional outlet we're all anger free :)
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James Stemmle Dec 3, 2008, 9:53am EST
I don’t know Glome. It looks like you are trying to fix my problem. Which means you are assuming I have this particular problem. Or all your readers do. Which may not be a good assumption. You found the answer. Maybe others have already found it too. And it might not be the same answer. Might there be other ways of fixing it?

Cheers.

Jim
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:53am EST
Thanks Fred.

You're right Jennifer. We are the only one it hurts. Thanks for coming by.

Ah ha ms Selene...I suspected you might be causing trouble over at the temple :)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:58am EST
There wouldn't be much to talk about James if we were afraid to talk about what we've learned. I'm assuming people that don't want to talk about it just won't come by. Most people are pretty light hearted and fun here in Gather, don't you think?
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Elise w. Dec 3, 2008, 10:01am EST
You're right, Glome. We all have some form of bitterness lingering around just waiting to attach itself to us. We can let go and let God and that is all very good. The little nasties are always there just waiting to attack us, though. It's a constant battle of resistance.

I'll admit I have bitterness. I try to deal with it in healthy ways by realizing that person is hurting himself. But in the reality of my mind it doesn't help my circumstance one iota to know that he's hurting himself. His messups are hurting others and NOT just himself and there is absolutely NO way to get that through his head.

The initials are:
SP
CJ
SC
SR

Sometimes these initialed ones irritate the hound outa me. One or two of them are extremely exasperating and frustrating know-it-alls. That bugs the crap out of me and they know it but continue doing it. I don't understand it and don't want to understand it. I just want it to stop. I do realize that sometimes through understanding comes healing, but I don't see it here. :-) I smile because I can and it makes me feel better. :-)

You have a wonderful post and your writing style is awesome, Glome. Thank you!
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:07am EST
I jumped too soon Elise ... I said it only hurts us; I was wrong. It usually hurts a whole lot of people.
One tiny change in angle and the whole picture shifts. & the opposite, love, improves a whole lot of people.
I hope this series is fun. I do have a lot of examples. & thanks for the list :) even though I'm sorry you have one :)
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Jerri H. Dec 3, 2008, 10:08am EST
I have always said..."I love you but I don't always like you very much"

I read somewhere once that "hate is like acid, it hurts the container you keep it in more than what it is poured on" I know that is not word for word what it said but it has always stayed with me. When I have ever had a person that would just make me shake with anger when I saw them, I would remember that and purge them from my life. The anger and hate was just not worth the damage it would inflict on my life.

I absolutely know there have been people in my life that could have made it on this list but at the current time I cannot put anyone here. The borderline person or two that I could put here don't anger me as much as I pity the actions they take and I accept that there is nothing I can do with them to change it. (I am more the peacemaker)
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Svetlana Goryacheva Dec 3, 2008, 10:10am EST
... For quite a long time, I felt bitterness and pain towards someone whom I loved deeply and who failed me when I needed him most of all. I think that many of my close friends on Gather already read the story. It wasn't hatred, granted, but it seemed to me that I was simply mislead like the last fool on this Earth by his promises - promises he never fulfilled and possibly never intended to fulfill. This, and his seeming indifference, led me to utter despair and self-regret... which almost threatened to destroy my career and my very self. I still loved him, I tried to forgive him... but this heartache was just eating me up. I prayed for God to help me out of all this, in any way, and I know my friends did pray for me, too. Well... I've finally forgiven him, totally and completely, when I discovered the true motives behind his behavior. As it happened, these motives were nobler than I suspected... mea culpa... but his confession came too late. I've already met someone else who won my heart - totally and completely - so all that I could offer to that guy was my sincere friendship and support for all the rest of our lives. But hardly anything beyond that. ;-)

Blessings and best wishes - S.
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~*~ tinksmagic ~*~ ~ Dec 3, 2008, 10:11am EST
I guess I would have to add my ex. I still can't stand him, but not having to deal with him except maybe 1 time every few years, I've found I pity him cuz I've moved on and have a happy life and he's still a cold, black-hearted person he always was.
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Kelly Kay Dec 3, 2008, 10:11am EST
I have let go of anger towards the men that have so horribly hurt me, their day will come. I took my power back & they are powerless against me. I have let go the anger towards family members that were never there for me, now I am there for them.

The only anger I can not expel is the hellfire fury I feel towards people in my life that TRY to make it bad, TRY to hurt me & my kids. These two particular people seem to dance through any problems and never seem to have to own up or pay for their sins. I fight because I don't want them to win, but sometimes it seems they always win, so why keep fighting?
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:11am EST
Oh my gosh Selene ... I have a feeling I'd read your last months poetry much differently had I known what you were going through. It doesn't always let me in but I've read some. For some reason, I kept thinking of it as past pain.
27 days and counting huh? Merry Christmas?? Can't you go to your family? I shouldn't ask personal questions. But I will be aware of you every day ... counting down with you. Thank you for coming back. Now I know.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:14am EST
Jerry, thanks for your addition to the lessons we'll learn. The saying stands well.

I know what you mean; some enemies are kind of like gnats :) You don't feel one way or the other about them unless they're flitting around your face. Hahaha.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:24am EST
Svetlana, in spite of the pain and sorrow and almost tragedy, it sounds like a victorious story of sorts. But victory at awful price. I'm glad it turned out he was more noble than you first thought. for his sake and yours.
And now in love with a wonderful mate. Two good men passing through your life. Fyodor Dostoevsky could have done a wonderful job with that material :)
Thank you for coming by. I will go back and read your story.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:27am EST
Hi tinks, I've seen your avatar a lot but I'm not sure if I ever really talked to you.
Xs are often the most painful. Like you said, having little contact helps sometimes. Still, it would be nice to heal even that old wound.
Thank you for coming by and telling us. I know even that stirred stuff.
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Sandy (back in Ohio...blah!) Dec 3, 2008, 10:29am EST
Right now my bitterness and restement is towards my in laws for the way they have treated my husband and kids. Plus the fact I see them bucking the system to get what they want. They do not care who they hurt in the process.

I am trying to get over this. I have been praying. I even had another lady pray with me monday about it. As it is tearing me up inside.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:32am EST
Kelly, I'm so sorry. Evidently they are people that are attached to either you or your children ... or both. It's too bad you can't just detach. I still think we'll come up with something that will help you deal with them.
I'm impressed with the turnaround you made in your own family. Being there for those who weren't there for you. You'll have your own examples and helps to give us as we go along. That's great progress.
Thanks for coming by and sharing. I didn't think about how painful this might be until I began to read these responses.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:37am EST
Minipin, your icon and comment you wrote on Sept 15th at 1:29 PM is scotch taped to the side of my computer so I would remember to pray for you. I'll keep it there. As we go along, I really think we can get you on top of that situation mini. I don't know for sure, but I've never run into a situation that didn't seem to be responsive to God's way of escape.
At first people don't think so, but as examples come and go, the truths finally begin to settle down into their own particular situation. Stay with us if you can. I'll keep them as short as possible. It's hard to take studies I do in person & put them on Gather as they're too long. I'll break them down into little ones. :)
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Jean E. Dec 3, 2008, 10:50am EST
I'm sure there has to be more than ONE. For me though comes the thought of my ex-husband (who is doing very well now and has been since we divorced ~ we were not good for each other). And I have first and foremost forgived myself for the part I played ~ it really does take two.

JJ was my husband for 14 years. I strived to be the perfect wife as defined my mother (oops there is another one and another posting.) During this 14 years, I worked two 8 hour jobs daily while he worked zero. I also was the recipient of my first bloody lip at at 19...for reason I'll not disclose at the moment as it is not relative ~ a bloody lip is a bloody lip ~ I didn't do anything to deserve it other than wanting his company while he chose to go elsewhere.

The reason I feel bitter towards him (and myself ~ another posting) is I allowed our marriage take my youth ~ my dreams ~ and my beauty. I looked a photo of myself at age 22 taken by a friend at at 35 and asked this friend, "who is that?".......I did not even recognize who I was....my life was overwhelmingly his......or as his wife.

Unfortunately, I am bitter still ~ but I have accepted my role in the play ~ I truly cannot blame anyone esle 100%........I was there......I could have said and done so many things I did not. Perhaps I am more bitter with myself (and ANOTHER posting)......I am bitter at his mother for thinking "this is the way it is, and that is it."

on the positive, I forgave myself first.......then JJ, then JJ's mother, then my mother....but today, I am at peace with myself and not bitter in general.........just tired and cautious with my heart........which is why marrying another man after 10 years of being single was a huge milestone for Jean.

love you Glome~j
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Jean E. Dec 3, 2008, 10:53am EST
and I don't fight anymore ~ I understand that my ulimate pain is caused by my lack of actions..........love and gotta run for a bit ~j
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Richard Owl Mirror Dec 3, 2008, 11:11am EST
We need to see some lists.

I could offer a plethora of issues and circumstances where resentment and bitterness might have taken root. I have never allowed this to happen in my life so listing them wouldn't serve the purpose of this article.

I've been lied to, betrayed, abandoned. I've had crimes committed against me and yet, through it all I simply released any residual anger and moved on.
I guess I won't be very helpful in this article.
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LEĐŻA © Politcally Incorrect M. Dec 3, 2008, 11:19am EST
I can't think of anyone in particular.
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Kerrell g. Dec 3, 2008, 11:38am EST
The list I have is way too long and you probably don't have enough disk space...
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Sue B.© The Sting IS Worse Than the Buzz Dec 3, 2008, 11:40am EST
Great post! Bitterness and animosity anyone holds against someone is always most counterproductive to the individual who holds that bitterness and animosity. It's even been associated with health problems. I read an article a few years ago where they attributed some arthritic conditions to long held animosity. It makes sense that one's health might be affected since such emotions are poisonous to the spirit and, if allowed to dominate one's life, that perspective can affect the person's overall well being.
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Renda B~surviving the storm by dancing in the rain. Dec 3, 2008, 12:15pm EST
I agree with much that's been said in your post, Glome, and in the comments. There was a time when anger/bitterness was "second nature" to me. It didn't take much to set me off. At first, I thought it was the "people" I was around. Then I realized it was actually ME. It took a lot of doing, but I finally have worked through it all....including the inner demons and can honestly say I do not feel bitterness/anger, etc towards others or myself.
I really believe anger and bitterness can tear you apart (from the inside out) and it will project itself to those around you.
Sure there are times someone can say or do something that hurts me, but I do not allow it to affect me the way it did before. I don't have any room or energy for it. Thanks for opening a great subject. I'll be interested in following this topic.
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Danielle P. Dec 3, 2008, 12:27pm EST
I'm actually reading two books right now. They are slow readers, for there is so much to learn. One is called Boundaries and the other one is called Character Makeover~the first chapter is on humility.
I'm struggling with resentment and hurts, I think all of us are whether we admit it or not. Mine are as follows:
JP
BP
SP
JZ
previous job circumstance~ after I left the offender got fired a few months later.
and disappointments by
CV
JZ
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Tracy Fabre Dec 3, 2008, 12:59pm EST
"you may be the only one who doesn't know" -- I like that summation.

I don't think I have any long-term bitterness toward anyone. I do still hold a little grudge (heh) against someone who was mean to me in the 4th grade -- in fact I used her name in one of my unpublished novels as a villain, LOL -- but it's not something that consumes me.

My little bitternesses come and go -- even if I were to list initials they wouldn't be the same tomorrow as they are now.

But this post is excellent, and definitely food for thought.
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Ann M. (Site Scryer) Dec 3, 2008, 1:51pm EST
Thanks for the email on this one, Glome.

I do get angry with people, but it's only temporary. As far as I know, there is no one against whom I hold a grudge. It just takes too much energy.
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robert w. Dec 3, 2008, 2:16pm EST
Jesus said, Love your neighbor as you love yourself and forgive 70 x 7.
Human nature is so selfish. I could write a long list of people who have
hurt my Mother, my Sister, and myself. But I would prefer to just pray
for them. Great post, Glome. God bless you, Robert W
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Elsie Duggan Dec 3, 2008, 2:24pm EST
I was angry with my husband for dying for a very little while. Then I had to laugh at myself as I know he had no control over it. I don't believe I am bitter about anything, I try and keep an optimistic attitude which really helps you, and overlook little things that happen in everyone's life (don't sweat the small stuff) and am contented in my life now. I don't think I have ever been really mad or angry or jealous of anyone, if at all , it was fleeting, and now at this stage of my life, I accept what comes along, and God is taking care of me, I truly believe he may be my best friend. Sounds presumptious of me, but we do talk a lot, and I have peace from that.
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John Philipp Dec 3, 2008, 2:39pm EST
Glome, I like Jenn's comment:

"Once I learned my dislike didn't hurt the person I disliked ...only me...I learned to get over it."
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Janet Somewhere Up On The Mount Dec 3, 2008, 2:51pm EST
Thanks for the great read.
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Sharon P. Dec 3, 2008, 4:19pm EST
That's wonderfully honest. I hated, and was very bitter toward my pedophile father for many years. I still can't love him normally. But I decided along the way that hatred just hurts the hater. I no longer do. I am trying to forgive. That's the hard part for me.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Dec 3, 2008, 5:12pm EST
Bitterness,
Anger,
Hostility,
Jealousy,
Ill-will
Mean-spiritedness,
Resentment,
Harassment,
Hatred -- are amongst many of what is called, "that thing".

Most people do so have it, too.
They may say they do not, but they do, Glome.
You know it, and I know it.

Even Paul talked about it, and it is why he needed to crucify his flesh, daily.

My mom used to tell me, "You had better get your heart right, Daughter."

I had no idea what she was talking about, until I did what King David did; he asked the Lord to search his heart. Oh, what a horrible thing that is. A person may not like the outcome. It is also as Jesus knew. After Jesus performed his first miracle, it is written,

"But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man."

In other words, Jesus knew the hearts of humankind, and I'll leave it at that.

I do not even let it get to the point of ill feelings. Rather, I do as Jesus did. He did it with Satan, and he even did it with Peter. With Peter, it had nothing to do with hatred. He simply said to both of them,

Get away from me. Get out of my face. Get away.

It is best to not have evil, and iniquity around you. That is also scriptural, and it is good.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Dec 3, 2008, 5:14pm EST
Whatever "that thing" is in one's life -- whatever it is, it is best not to deny its existence, though. Denying it won't do a bit of good, for if it is there, it is there; it shall only send you straight to Hell.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Dec 3, 2008, 5:21pm EST
Finally Glome,

I believe I said on one post that I hate liars. That is not true; I misspoke. I do not "hate" liars. I may become passionate about liars, and hate what they do, but I do not hate them.

The Lord had to teach me a method of loving everyone at a time when I failed miserably at the task. I was humbled to a point when I was unable to find the answers for myself. Another proof for me of God's existence. God provided a method that I would have never -- of myself, ever thought of; it's failproof. So then, it becomes easy to love the person, even if you despise what they do.
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Kitty Lone Hawk Dec 3, 2008, 5:27pm EST
EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!!

I am one that was CONSUMED by hate and lothing, and even though everyone would tell me I had a right to feel this way......deep inside where my soul/spirit lives I felt horrible and dirty.

God set me FREE, and you my friend speak the truth of your ways in your post, it can work for anyone.

NOW I can HONESTLY SAY that I LOVE UNCONDITIONALLY EVERYONE BUT ESPECIALLY MY ENIMIES WHO ARE HELL-BENT ON CAUSING ME HARM-----

I "FEAR NOT, FOR GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN ME, THEN he WHO IS IN THE WORLD"

That doesn't mean I don't get upset or angry it simply means I no longer HATE and can catch myself quicker now, then before God.
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Angela A. Dec 3, 2008, 5:45pm EST
I can't just name one person that has caused me pain in my life.
It was a few dozen people that hurt me and called me names throughout my childhood.
I'm not angry at them anymore.
But, it does still carry over into my life now.
I can't truly be happy, because something will happen, that is unexpected or someone wins, and I do not, and it hurts. Because that old feeling of not being good enough swims to the surface again.
And, again, those taunts have run my life.
I try to let it go. I've let go of a lot. But, I still have a long way to go.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 5:49pm EST
Hey JeanE ... ms transparency. That comes with age too. Transparency.

Ha ha on all the 'nother posts'. Maybe they'll be posted before we're through :)
It's so helpful to others that are still locked into secrets when some of you that have gone through a lot share your thoughts, failures, regrets and victories.

At first the steps of loving your enemy seem old hat ... but as we work them in ... WE ARE HEARING (EVERYBODY) lights will begin to go on. (My last series subject :):)

Thanks for using the term 'role in the play.' That's a very accurate description. I played the wrong role in my marriage too. A good term that will come in handy :) Glad you're here with us for insights ms G E.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 5:55pm EST
Owl, you came out on top. You'll have good input. Hopefully people will have time to read the comments and offer suggestions. That's the good part about Gather. A LOT of people here that have so much wisdom.
We don't want you to take your wings and fly home ... we want you to stay and help pick up the pieces :)
Besides, I don't know you that well yet; this is my chance.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 5:58pm EST
Lera, hmmmm ... somehow, sunshine and lollipops, that sounds right :)

I'm still glad you're here. Maybe you can pass help on to someone else. Thank you for coming and commenting.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:00pm EST
Kerrell, that's OK. I'm glad you're here. Bear with (or is it bare; I never know) me a little. It's stuff you've heard, but maybe new angles or higher saturation point :) I would be so happy if it helped drain some of that off of you. That is a heavy load to carry kerrell.
Thanks for coming by.
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Marie J. R. Dec 3, 2008, 6:09pm EST
one has to grow to know,,,

when my daughter was killed and I knew the person who caused it,,, everything except killing the person cam to mind,,, time heals those who pay attention to the Lords teachings,,, He was the only one who took that anger from me,,,

cool article my Glome,,, so very sorry you were hurt like that,,, Bless you,,,
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Latasha W. Dec 3, 2008, 6:11pm EST
"Write one word that will speak to you regarding the hateful situation."

The word is over because I'll either be glad it's over or be looking forward to when it is over.

Great post, Glome, and I love the graphics!
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:12pm EST
Sue Bee ... you have to be right. Bitterness is SUCH a weight. We all know anxiety can wreck havoc in health, both physical and mental.
I went down hill physically and mentally over the last 6 or 7 mo's due to frustration and anger that had no where to be released trying to care for my Mom who lives with me & has become combative and demanding with many broken bones from constantly trying to get out of bed and the chair etc. Even during the night. She was too senile to understand so I couldn't show anger at her ... besides, I really wanted to honor her. On 11-2 she broke 2 bones ... 3 breaks. She's now in the nursing home which I said I'd never do.

So YES, I agree with you SueBee :) PS Now I know I should have done this long ago. I have peace about everything finally.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:21pm EST
Renda ... you've had a rough roe to hoe. I followed your journey in Rene's Artistic Therapy.

Doesn't it strike everyone as odd that during our 20's & even early 30's we're in such a mess unknoting all the mistakes and stupidity we've made of our lives without the inteligence to do so ... and then God throws kids into the pile. :):) By the time we begin to say "Oh, I understand now." They're gone.

Honestly though ... I'll be everyone of our kids really learned a lot from us while we were under pressure. Somehow it just seems to work. Here we all are.

I'm glad you'll be following. The basics aren't entirely new at all. The over and over examples are what will help. I'm sure you'll have some of those.
Thanks for coming Renda.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:26pm EST
Danielle, I loved the simplicity and openess of your comment.
I am absolutely sure there will be helps in the details and examples. I'm hoping some will follow escape path and let us see if it works. It has never failed me.

I teach my kids in philosophy club to qualify their statements. Make few absolutes. I see I just made an absolute statement to you :) Hope I don't have to eat my hat.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:29pm EST
Ha ha Tracy (Everyone, she wrote this before she went to work forgetting to take her lunch) She reports she was very cranky. She may be happy now but there may be a few snarling at her :)

I'm kind of like that Tracy. As soon as I get ticked at someone I carry out the principle we're learning & it's over.

Thanks for coming and commenting.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:33pm EST
Hi Ann M ... our peaceful Buddah (that isn't disrespectful is it?)
It is hard picturing you irate. You're little dove would fly away.
I'm glad you're here. You give the room a hushed feeling :)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:36pm EST
Thanks for commenting Robert. I know you have a soft heart from your posting. I'm not surprised you are definsive for your Mom and sister.
I really think it is harder to forgive someone giving pain to those we love than when they give pain to us.
Everyone knows the tiger that snarls out of the Moms when their little one is getting the wrong end of the stick. It is very hard.
I'm glad you're here.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:42pm EST
Thanks Elsie. Everything you said sounds like the portrait you've painted here on Gather.
It really is peaceful to have no enemies.
I love the people in my apt building. They are so friendly. But oh my, there is often so much spitefulness going on. I would think they would be sick of it.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:49pm EST
JENNIFER aka Jenn I'm hollaring way to the top. I accidently skipped you. I'm sorry.
Not you're type of pain? I agree. It's horrible!
Of course we've never seen anything but a smile on your face so it is hard to imagine you bitter. On the other hand ... we all have a dark side :)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:52pm EST
John, if you hadn't mentioned Jenn's comment I would have missed her. Thank you so much.
"Once I learned my dislike didn't hurt the person I disliked ...only me...I learned to get over it."
I know that makes sense ... but most of us have to learn it the hard way. :)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:55pm EST
Cassandra, thank you. It does drain energy and wear you out.
I think sometimes the annoyance of some people have fewer answers than the more serious problems. But they don't give ulcers.
Real bitterness is hard.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 6:55pm EST
Thanks Janet, for coming by and for commenting.
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Alkistis Wechsler Dec 3, 2008, 7:13pm EST
Rrrrright!
Let's see: Bitterness, negativity? they waist my time and my energy; drop it and go ahead to new plans, new chances, new creativity.
And, do not introduce dangerous friends to your partner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alkistis Wechsler Dec 3, 2008, 7:13pm EST
I ment waste ...
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 7:17pm EST
Sharon P ... I'm so glad you're here.
We had to deal with that also. That is a big, big one. I actually wrote an article with a poem (believe it or not) regarding the issue on Gather a few months ago. I'll either repost or give the site as we go through the series.
I'm so sorry. As the Mom, I still feel like I failed my children every time the subject is mentioned. But I did find some things that helped. It sounds like you've taken yourself a long way ... I hope we can help you more. All wounds don't heal down here but He said that they are working for us a "heavy weight of glory" I don't know exactly what that means but I believe He's saying in the long run . . . we'll see He "... worked all things together for good."
Thanks for coming by and sharing what happened. I hope you stay with us.
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Karen F. Dec 3, 2008, 7:32pm EST
I have found that bitterness gets me no where. The person that the bitterness is directed at probably doesn't know or care about it anyway and it just leads us down the path to no where. If we can forgive the ones that have hurt us...then we are the winner.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 8:13pm EST
Ah ha ha ... Lady Neeetah ... I can't help laughing when I look down the page and see your presence. I get the feeling that double doors just opened and with a mighty swoosh of wind this lady Neeetah walks in with robes flying ... and maybe a teaching finger swishing in the air.

Great quote of a simple statement of truth by Jesus. And who would better know than He?
""But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man."
In other words, Jesus knew the hearts of humankind, and I'll leave it at that."

Lady N "The Lord had to teach me a method of loving everyone at a time when I failed miserably at the task. I was humbled to a point when I was unable to find the answers for myself. Another proof for me of God's existence. God provided a method that I would have never -- of myself, ever thought of; it's failproof."

Me ... it will be interesting to see if we both came up with the same method. The same practical application of His word or if He used a different means in each life.
Stay tuned . . . :)

Thanks for coming Neetah.
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Carla G. Dec 3, 2008, 8:19pm EST
I applaud you for this article and for doing the forgiveness work in your own life. My first husband asked me for a divorce and it took me years to forgive him. But then I finally realized that by setting me free, I was able to meet my soul mate, who I am now married to. I now am grateful to my first husband.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 8:22pm EST
WOW Kitty ... I don't think I've ever met you before. Maybe I just forgot, I've been muddy minded lately under family pressures. I'll pop over to your site.

I'm so happy you've been delivered. Such a strong beginning to your post you would think it was an impossible situation. But wouldn't you know it ... then Jesus Christ ... :)

There will be lot's of actual examples later. I hope you join in with your own. I'm excited to hear what you have to say.

Thanks so much for coming by and sharing your testimony.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 8:30pm EST
Angela A, I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. I don't want you to get lost in the crowd going through bit on loving your enemies.
I know if absolutely feels like some wounds won't heal ... but since it is Christ that does the healing and not us ... they can all heal.
Please stay with us. I'll scotch tape your post to my computer and pray that the Lord really open your eyes to good truth and heal your wounds. Gather is fun ... but sometimes really serious things go on. This can be one of those times.
Thanks for coming by and sharing your story.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 8:54pm EST
Hi Darlene, glad to meet you :)

That is an applicable and helpful verse you shared.
Psalm 66:18 "If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me".

Since there will be old/new Christians and non Christians here I thought I'd share a little explanation of the Word 'regard'.

We wouldn't want anyone to misunderstand and be discouraged thinking that just 'seeing or knowing' there is sin in your heart means God won't answer prayer. We ARE sinners. Even if we accept Christ and receive a New nature ... our old nature is stuck to our body until that body dies :) Therefore, it is always trying to win us over and get our attention. The Spirit spends our entire life time molding us and changing us and teaching us to yield to our new Spirit and ignore the call of our old. But sin is always there waiting to see who it can ensnare.

When you look inside yourself and see sin, that is not 'regarding' it. Regarding it is to be satisfied with it; pleased with it; approving of it.


For simplicities sake, rather than the Hebrew translation of the word 'DISCERN' I simply am giving the most common ways the word is translated in the KJV into English.
You see there is more of a positive approval of the sin being there.
OT:7200
KJV - advice self, appear, approve, behold, certainly, consider, discern, (make to) enjoy, have experience, gaze, take heed, indeed, joyfully, lo, look (on, one another, one on another, one upon another, out, up, upon), mark, meet, be near, perceive, present

The entire comments in this series are all the opposite. We all hate our hate. Want to be rid of our bitterness. If you REGARDED the sin you wouldn't be reading through all this material on how to be set free.

Thanks for the verse Darlene. It really does show the necessary difference in attitudes for God to respond. He only responds to those who call out to Him for deliverance, not those that are satisfied as is.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:03pm EST
Marie, I don't know these details. I'll come look for the story.
I'm so sorry. So many people have been through such terrible pain it is hard to get through these posts.

Marie's post.
when my daughter was killed and I knew the person who caused it,,, everything except killing the person came to mind,,, time heals those who pay attention to the Lords teachings,,, He was the only one who took that anger from me,,,

Me: Again ... "Only through Christ." I just can't imagine Marie. Thank you for sharing this much of your story. Please feel free to step in any time.

Marie, I think I did look your story up when I first came to Gather. It's ringing a bell. You would think no bells would be needed. The names ran together for awhile & I read a few very sad life experiences.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:06pm EST
Latasha, what a great tiny post :)
Here's her post:

Me in article "Write one word that will speak to you regarding the hateful situation."

Latasha The word is over because I'll either be glad it's over or be looking forward to when it is over.

COOL. I hadn't even remembered writing that. Her word; OVER. Yaaaaa :)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:11pm EST
Alkistis, good for you.

Sometimes, no matter how much you know that is the smart thing to do, it just doesn't go away. Believe me, a lot of us need help.

I'm sure lots of thing play into it; personality type; emotional type; depth of the experience; philosophy of life and our life experiences.

I'm glad you're here anyway. You may have things to offer as we go along.
Thank you for coming by.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:15pm EST
Hi Karen F :)

Her statement; " ...The person that the bitterness is directed at probably doesn't know or care about it..."

My statement; "That SUCKS." Joke! :):)

You're right. Some of us are just more hard headed than others. We're getting there.
Thanks for coming. Hope you follow through with us. You never know what tomorrow may hold ... you may be glad you got some tips when someone really gets under your craw one day.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 9:19pm EST
Carla ... a comment with a surprise twist.

Here's the twist; "But then I finally realized that by setting me free, I was able to meet my soul mate, who I am now married to. I now am grateful to my first husband."

Now I have a question; probably impossible to really know :)
Something really bad leading to something really good ... Would you change it? Would you have preferred to have gone directly into the 2nd relationship? Or did you need the first gain and loss?

And by the way, this has nothing at all to do with the series :) Well, I guess a little bit.
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Carla G. Dec 3, 2008, 9:36pm EST
No, Glome, I would not change it. I believe that everything happens for a reason and for our ultimate greater good if we are open to see it. And by having my first marriage, which ended 15 years before my second one, I learned what was really important to me. I was a totally different person by that time.
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Cheryl W. Dec 3, 2008, 9:39pm EST
When I first started reading your article, I was putting myself in the category of one of those people who has no bitterness inside toward anyone. But immediately a name came to my mind...and I realized that I definitely DO hold bitterness toward this person. Sometimes when we live with a certain situation or person day to day, it becomes such a part of us that we begin to think of it as normal.

The initials of the person are
BW
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Nancy 67 Dec 3, 2008, 10:05pm EST
I've worked and worked on forgiving this person over time, and I don't know if I honestly have forgiven them or not, but the inititials are:

CS
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Nancy 67 Dec 3, 2008, 10:06pm EST
P.S. Glome, an **excellent** article, and I, too, am sorry you went through that experience. I know it must have been absolutely devastating at that time and took a long, long time to get over and heal... Bless your heart, Girlfriend...
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Nancy 67 Dec 3, 2008, 10:07pm EST
...and the other intitials are:

NM (that's me)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:13pm EST
Thanks Carla. You know, I knew almost exactly what you were going to say.
I always think of you as a strong woman; sure of yourself; sense of humor. The softness and pain in your story rounded all that out.
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:17pm EST
Cheryl, what a perfect example. Thank you.

I really think names will come to peoples minds as we go along and surprise them. At least when teaching in person that's what happens.

And ... I guess I should mention I have a person that occasionally fits into that description also, just not right now. It is the person I mentioned in my article. One of the two women. I'll let everyone guess which one :)
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Glome . . . Dec 3, 2008, 10:23pm EST
Nancy, you are so funny. I understand the NM. Sometimes I have terrible self talk.

As much as a shock as the situation was, I'll have to say it was not a long healing. In fact, you all will know how I healed by the time this is over. Something that anyone can do ... if they'll just do it :)
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Marsha S. Dec 3, 2008, 10:48pm EST
I hold a lot of bitterness towards the grandkids father....I'm trying to get over it, but everytime he pulls something else, like threatening to have the kids taken away it all comes back again.
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Lewis (taking over Gather) K. Dec 3, 2008, 10:53pm EST
I know I have some bitterness in me. I have a father somewhere in the world, with a family of his own, who I haven't seen since he and my mother split when I was four. Not only myself, but two of my brothers as well. Other than a few phone calls in the first few years, he's not tried to see or contact us again. I often wondered how a man could do that and still consider himself a human being. I've written about it from time to time, thinking I could release the resentment. But even now, as I write, I feel a tightness in my chest from the anger it causes. I know I will have to see him face-to-face one day just to find some closure to this issue. I thought I'd be over it, that as an adult it could no longer bother me. But the scar never heals completely. Thanks for the wonderful article.
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Dec 3, 2008, 10:59pm EST
Initials:

KD
KD
BH
GD
FD
BL
LP
BL
AL
HH


Yeah, I think that pretty much sums up the family.
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Tom T. Dec 3, 2008, 11:14pm EST
One scripture that has helped me a lot in this regard is Psalms 37. It begins...
"Do not fret because of evil men." We are reminded again and again, "Fret not." I've had a hard time applying this, but when I have, I have experienced such peace!
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Marilyn M. Dec 3, 2008, 11:41pm EST
Great article, Glome. Most of the time, with God's help I've learned to not only forgive but to forget. It drives some of my loved ones crazy that they can bring up some "horrible" past happening and I honestly don't remember. They call it my defense mechanism, but I'm sure God has had a hand in that.

But there is one person in more recent years that I've not been able to completely forgive and forget.

DC
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Nancy 67 Dec 3, 2008, 11:55pm EST
"We have met the enemy, and he is Us." ~ Pogo (comic strip from years past)
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Jai S. Dec 4, 2008, 12:10am EST
Glome - once again a great article. You can be a great teacher. Looks like there are a lot of women here with Men problems.
I am not bitter at ANY WOMEN - I have loved every one of them except one her initial is 'S' - serpant? but I have let it go.

Mostly I too have problems with Men - egotistical, insecure weasels get under my skin they annoy me more than hurt me ;)
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Glome . . . Dec 4, 2008, 12:27am EST
Marsha ... that's tough and scary. We'll go through some real examples along that line. Several that set me free. I promise you there are answers. But you'll have to follow along for 2 or 3 :) or 4 I'll try to end there. As we go through I know He will begin to open your way of escape. He's been very faithful all along the line.
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Glome . . . Dec 4, 2008, 12:31am EST
Lewis, I'm glad you came. I haven't had your exact problem. But as we go through the way of escape, I know you will hear examples that will start your mind working. We'll start in a day or so with the view of the situation. Loving your enemy. What it means and what it requires. I promise you will find your part no more than you can do.
Our part never is. He does the hard part.
Please stick with it for a time & see what you think. I'm so glad you came.
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Glome . . . Dec 4, 2008, 12:35am EST
Andrea, a woman of few words :) The problem neatly laid out. Great. You've taken the first step.
The next steps will be just as doable as that first step.
I really prayed before I decided to try to convert this to a written lesson for Gather. I told God I really didn't want to attempt it unless it was His will. I believe it is. I believe He will give answers as he does in personal presentations. Maybe this is better. People having the time to write it out as we go along.
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Glome . . . Dec 4, 2008, 12:41am EST
Hey Tom T ... I've been going to go after you all day and ask you to go through this with us. I kept thinking I would go to my 'sent' emails and grab an old emial to send :)

You'll have things to help with ... and maybe some strange little helps along the way.
That is a great verse and I wasn't familiar with it. It's a great addition.

I notice you put no initials or words :) I could add one for you. Joke!
Glad you're here.
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Glome . . . Dec 4, 2008, 12:51am EST
Marilyn, thanks for the initials. I'm sure you will find some application in the next few days.

I think you are right; your family probably mistaken. Of course I have no way of knowing ... but you don't seem defensive; just genuinly disagree with them. It will be fun to see what speaks to you along the way.
I'm glad you came by and dared to comment.
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Glome . . . Dec 4, 2008, 12:52am EST
You nailed it Pogo :)
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