The REAL TRUTH of the Universe !
An article made directly from a comment to David McGills article concerning the 9/11 attacks and potentials of conspiracy.
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Bruce, thank you for your interest in desiring to know the truth of the universe. It is commendable of you to be so concerned, unlike the KIA’s (Know It All’s) such as jJ. This may well be a bit lengthy because it is such a foreign concept for the normal people of our world that have been taught from the earliest age that everything is separated. I will be using some metaphor and allegory here because that is more useful when speaking of things that are too subjective to be defined purely in objective fashion.
I have written a book that better explains it all, available on my website at http://www.spiritcalls.us where there are poke points to receive a free download for those that would rather not purchase it.
Let me set the stage for our world condition of dualistic think. Religion has come with the story of creation where Adam (man) and Eve (woman) were at home with their Father (God), a Trinity of sorts, before the “fall” …
The “fall” from that “heavenly” spiritual garden (Eden) “down” to earths “physical” reality, created a dislocation between God above and mankind below, a separation and thus a “Duality” where the heavenly was considered “good” as a positive (+) and mankind below were considered “bad” (sinners) as the negative (-). There then was a Gap or a Void (/) between the two realms, expressed as (+/-).
Now bear in mind that our society has never seemed to have gotten over that idea of separation (even though Jesus Christ and many others have attempted to tell us “the way” to do so) …
So even today yet all of our children are still indoctrinated early on in primary school that mathematically there is this “fact” that (+=+) and (-=-), and like the fabled East and West, never the twain shall meet.
Now reduce (+=+) and (-=-) down and you get (+/-) the formulae for duality where the two potentials are relatively separated by the symbol of division (/) which is the void and gap between them.
Of course in truth there is really no separation at all when one considers that we thinking individuals actually bridge that gap just due to our thinking about it. Yet we consider ourselves yet separated from all via our ego individuality. Thus in many things the ego self thinks it is THE only thing that really matters (selfishness) in the world, or it sees itself as inconsequential in the ‘other’ extreme.
But as David already suggested earlier, it is really all about a BALANCE to all considered.
So because of our religious traditions of separation between heaven and earth, heaven and hell, God and mankind, and especially God and Satan, the latter negative of Satan (the Devil) supposedly always seeking to own us, and thus to be battled and fought off as we seek the perfected extreme of goodness on the ‘other’ END of the linear scale of differentiation, THAT end being the definition of “PERFECTION” that we are told to always strive for … of course we can NEVER achieve THAT kind of “perfection”, thus we are doomed to always be “losers” in that sense.
Now the TRUTH of what Jesus THE Christ was all about, was just what HE attempted to tell everyone, but the “church” got it wrong, they misunderstood the message because they were so steeped into the separation of duality. He attempted to tell them about Trinity and how it is the concept of (+=-) that would give them the Salvation and everlasting life IF they developed the relationship with their (our) Inner Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Spirit, our higher Self (note capitol S to differentiate from the lower ego self), the Spirit of God already withIN us awaiting for recognition by us. That Spirit is the SUBJECTIVE Intuition that is always attempting to tell us the best direction to take moment by moment in all decisions that we make. That IS what really makes us what we are, the Spirit withIN designated as (=) as only IT knows the best way for us to act during deciding between (+) and (-) choices … (+=-).
We must consider here that everything is a balance between potential extremes such as ALL (+) and NOTHING (-). We must realize that we will never know in life ALL, and just because we know we are something, then Nothing is but a potential for consideration only as a contrast. The BALANCE between is thus PERFECTION in the true sense. The truth of every natural thing contains that (=) right in the very center of it.
Yet our scientists have theorized Black Holes in space where all that we are (considered positive in relationship and involved with light) would be sucked up into another dimension or realm, now considered the epitome of nothing or negative (-) in the extreme.
Our scientists realize that they are very close to developing a TOE, a Theory of Everything, a theory that actually ties together everything for a valid relationship between the differences. BUT, because they are still truly “dualists” due to early indoctrination, they will never ever discover the real and true EQUATION that they seek … because IT IS (+=-) and one must become accepting of Spirit to really understand and thus be able to make use of it.
The Truth of the Universe is thus the BET, the Basic Equation of Truth, expressed as (+=-) !!!
This requires the transcendence of pure OBJECTIVITY as the primary goal to knowledge, with the acceptance of the balancing of that with the SUBJECTIVE Spiritual, available via our Intuition. Then and only then will we have and be able to use real WISDOM (which far transcends JUST knowledge).
I hope this helps explain the concept and theory … it can never be known for absolute certain, but I do believe that it is the ‘relative’ truth … IMnsHO.
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Thanks, Peace, j.
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Lynn, I am glad it was of use.
But, on the article - wow. I've seen some references you made, previously, to reading an earlier draft of your book through your website and of course today, when I have an appointment, I finally see the link to do that. I have to come back to it.
I have been fascinated for years with the observation that divinity (for lack of better wording at the moment) seems to shine through most brightly in those whose ego has been cracked to pieces. Why, was my question. Why not everyone? I found the answer I was listening for, in your article, and thank you. It's so simple, yet, so profound.
As is the overlying theme of your article. I 'understand' yet it has layers and applications that become more clear over time as my thinking works away from duality, to Oneness.
This Trinity concept applies of course to the ultimate ONEness of God, and I personally see it as a better way to seek that oneness because it requires the personal relationship to Spirit where the Love is actually found.
There are other philosophies and spiritualities that have related concepts, actually nost all of them do at their core essence. The TAO does also, yet many practitioners seek a 'direct' route from duality to unity ... but I contend it does not work that way, it requires the Trinity concept IMnsHO.
Very good post, very good article, Deep thinking Jerry you suprise me.
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Just watched a friend go through this yesterday, and she had hers back within a few hours. Hopefully it's the same for you.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977113296
It alone is well worth the time it takes to read.
As far as I am concerned I did nothing to violate the TOS, but in reading them, the flagger has violated at least two of them ... and Gather can tell who the flagger is.
The new advances in Physics (another tough subject) indicate the demarcation between objects is not what we once thought. That is, we are all connected to everything, all the time. Using another mathematical analogy, I would say that we are not all static points on a line, but mobile points traveling both above and below zero, depending on our actions or thoughts.
What does it all mean? I don't know. I'm reminded of the cartoon where the little boy says "All I ever hear about is germs and Jesus, and I ain't never seen either one."
The chair and vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, assert in their book, Without Precedent, that they were "set up to fail" and were starved of funds to do a proper investigation. They also confirm that they were denied access to the truth and misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the federal aviation authority; and that this obstruction and deception led them to contemplate slapping officials with criminal charges. Despite the many public statements by 9/11 commissioners and staff members acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been charged, tried, or even reprimanded, for lying to the 9/11 Commission.
From the start, the commission was hamstrung. It did not start work until over a year after the attacks. Even then, its terms of reference were narrow, its powers of investigation limited and its time-frame for producing a report too short - barely a year to sift through millions of pages of evidence and to interview hundreds of key witnesses. The final report did not examine key evidence, and neglected serious anomalies in the various accounts of what happened. The commissioners admit their report was incomplete and flawed, and that many questions about the terror attacks remain unanswered. Nevertheless, the 9/11 Commission was swiftly closed down on August 21 2004.
Some of the private 9/11 research groups raise valid questions that were not considered, let alone answered, by the official investigation. The 9/11 cover-up reveals an absence of transparent and accountable government. Establishing the truth is necessary to restore honesty, trust and confidence in government.
Blessings and good luck - S.
Geronimo Moses, your comment is making me think. Thanks. ;)
Clarke, thanks for your comment, it is extremely fitting to the original article where this first appeared, I recommend that all go there and check out the views.
Col George, I think that was the excuse used to flag me from a disgruntled person who's feelings were hurt in the other thread mentioned.
Lune, thanks to you I was able to get it released so quickly, I may have never known otherwise.
Personally, I don't think it is unity or duality or trinity, but infinity
Peace,
libramoon
Even if you were flagged, are you saying the article wasn't available for reading? Other articles have been flagged and still out there and available for reading.
Jerry, I have been wondering where you have been.
I thank you for the article and as you already know I have been on your site. Going back to the flagging article for a minute, if you read Sandy's article it would appear Gather sees the problem with the flagging at will and is taking steps to make some changes.
Coming back to this, I do understand what you present. The issue of the Trinity is a nasty one because tradition is hard to overcome; I'm leaving it alone.
Suffice to say, I'm with Newton on the Trinity and some people may not know where he stood, but he refuted the doctrine of consubstantiality.
Thanks again, Jerry.
I was notified by another right away and found the article still available and receiving comments, but then shortly after, it disappeared. I think it was there until Gather took it off pending review. The flag I had was "spam".
I am not overly familiar with Newton, wish I was, but everything I read suggested that it was Einstein that took physics to the 'next' greater level ... I have read enough of Einstein to know what the general public does not about him, that he was VERY spiritually aware also. I have no doubt at all that Newton most likely was also, most people do not realize that those great minds get their special insights from the spiritual realm. At least I sure had no clue until AFTER I had met Spirit.
I have read about consubstantiation and do not remember the specifics of it ... but as for ritual and sacrament, to me they are poor substitutes for the real thing that is subjective in experience. Having experienced the subjective as I have, I realize that there is no amount of objectivity that will ever supersede it. That is where I think institutionalized religions go wrong for the followers, they get hung up on the objectivity as a substitute and with certain pictures in mind and associated thought processes they never allow the subjective to just happen. IMnsHO of course. :-)
I like the concept of the void....not sure I follow all the math tho (I suck at math, btw :-)
Original sin....starting with a blotch already.....something that is so pervasive, that it is invisible....ubiquitous is the word, I think. I get that....totally. I think we need, as a culture, to weed out all of that bias that drives us to do horrendous things (or to continue to follow/support those who do. i.e. why is Bush still in office?)
You are a smart, caring, and generous person Jerry. That has been proven time and again by your comments; and support for many people/issues. I think your message might be lost on some folks, but so what..... In order for everyone to 'hear' the same thing; they must have it presented in different ways. In ways that they can relate to. Some need angels to deliver the message, others need big churches, and some find it from within. The negative and positivly charge ions that surround us may even be part of your + and - theory/explaination. I'm not smart enough to know for sure. What I do know is that everything is interrelated......and for every action there is a 'reaction'. Karma is the same as: "what goes around, comes around" and "live it right, life is short; and the world is a small place," etc..
So I expect that many mathmatically oriented folks who want to understand spiritualism will relate well to your ideas and book. I think there is a 'place' for everyone to find their bliss....or at least, minimize the pain. I'm glad you are defining/exploring one that will help people cope with the B.S. that surrounds us in today's world. keep up the great stuff! And, honestly, thanks for sharing.....
:-)
Steven, thanks. Leslie, thanks.
Adam, thanks for reading and commenting. It needs to be understood that my belief, faith, concept, theory, whatever one desires to label it, came out of an actual and real experience very much as your Saul of Tarsus had on the way to Damascus, after which he became known as Paul. His writings make up a great part of the New Testament Bible that you are informed by. Later Paul became Saint Paul.
The major difference between our two experiences, is that he had his relationship with Christians who worshipped Jesus on his mind and thus he related to Jesus the man who was Christ-ed in Spirit. Then when I had my awakening, I had already rejected from early on experience with 'normal' Christians, there concept that they had the one and only answer and path to God. I also knew without a doubt that my experience was involved with the unconditional love of God and that I had been "Graced" in acceptance into a cosmic reality that transcended the worldly ideas of all such.
It was after that awakening experience that I studied extensively all things religious, spiritual, metaphysical, including the paranormal, occult, psychology, parapsychology, Trans-personal psychology, philosophy and on and on ... yes, even VERY deeply into the NewAge concepts ... you name it and I probably studied it.
So, I do not limit myself to only one religious viewpoint as you evidently do in claiming that my beliefs make you "sad" ... the fact that I have studied everything that I can, has been my search for the overall transcendent TRUTH that can only come from being aware of it all ... so, I have found that no one person can ever know it all ... because even say they ever did, they would have forgotten enough, and all else would have changed enough by then, that at the very best, they could NEVER know more than 1/2 of that knowable ... part of the meaning of the paradox presented by (+=-).
So IF you have come to the conclusion that you are a KIA in the sense that there are not other valid paths to God other than "your" Christianity ... then you will never be truly wise on that basis alone. IMnsHO.
A common trick in gather-land is to click the link "Report this as potentially inappropriate" which causes an article to disappear from the view of those who have their profiles (default I believe, unless gather changed this recently) set to filter inappropriate content (18+ flag I believe). If I am remembering correctly, simply turning off the filter in the profile suffices against such dirty tricks.
Concerning Jerry's article
An interesting read, though I would like a little more rigor describing the how thought mediates the interaction between extremes. I have some ideas of this myself, and are perhaps too dry and impractical to reduce here in this forum.
We must realize that we will never know in life ALL, and just because we know we are something, then Nothing is but a potential for consideration only as a contrast.
By this, I think you mean that the notion of "knowledge" is based on a "knower" who must play a role in the interaction between the "knower" and the "known." What is recognized by a consciousness as a "something" is precisely a traced outline defined by the inability to posit all existent things in pure undifferentiated reality.
In short, the act of distinguishing a thing from the undifferentiated mass of the universe necessitates a limitation in the faculty that does the distinguising .
So there's my best attempt on a late night.
Religious relativism, or religious extremism? Perhaps there is no need to implicitly characterize your response as being in defense of "futile attacks."
(1) Futile in what respect?
(2) Why do you cast a threatening shade over the thesis?
(3) Do you feel threatened by what is said openly in this forum?
(4) Would Jesus feel threatened by what is said here?
Just a few questions...don't take them too seriously.
I relate that to the "=" place in (+=-) which not only is the most potent in that centered place, it also permeates the whole.
Thus we may well limit ourselves for various reasons, as well as be limited by the BET (+=-) as we associate more with either the ego aspect of "+" or "-" where we can be as balanced "=" as a spiritual human only limited to humanity, as Perfect Universal Balance would be attributes of only God and Spirit.
I say that NOTHING is only a comparative potential in the totality of universal consideration because IF there is ANY consideration at all, that in itself negates NOthing. IMnsHO.
Now I am not a studied philosopher, only basing things on mostly my own thoughts and of course subject to error and misunderstanding, that is human perfection I believe where there is the humility to accept that in self and others. That is the difference between having wisdom and the knowledge of the KIA(s). The Bet (+=-) ALLOWS that ignorance, in fact, insists upon it.
I suppose in this concept there somewhere fits the saying that you cannot prove a negative ...
I sure hope that Adam comes back by to answer your last comment.
The concept of (+=-) is at the heart of most all spiritual understandings, yet seldom recognised as such. I have read only a small amount on numerology, but it stands to reason that the number 3 would amount to Joy as that is exactly what the Spirit brings to spirituality.
Thanks for coming by.
Digger, and thank you for reading, I suspect we have a few things in common.