Can You Believe the Audacity of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus ?

I'm all for booting them out and I'm all for killing the bill.

You would be...

Hurrah! Now we have a group that will kill the bill if the illegals aren't subject to some insane discovery process IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, and we have a group who'll kill the bill if illegals aren't covered straight up.

BOTH positions are asinine in the first place. This is typical "Dog in the Manger" nonsense.

Refusing medical treatment will not be in the bill.

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU
GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU GO INTO CHINA ILLEGALLY, YOUR CONSIDERED A SPY
AND GET HARD PRISON TIME.

IF YOU GO INTO GERMANY ILLEGALLY, YOU GET A HEFTY FINE,
WORK IT OFF OR PAY IT OFF, THEN DEPORTED.

IF YOU GO INTO ENGLAND ILLEGALLY, YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY
JAILED AND DEPORTED.......

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE
DETAINED INDEFINITELY....

BUT, IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:
1. A DRIVERS LICENSE
2. A SANCTUARY CITY RESIDENCE
3. WELFARE
4. FOOD STAMPS

Now they demand free health care?

"""What? Is everyone in America going to be a gutless flag sucking technocrat? or is someone going to work and get the gritty shit done? """"

If you are referring to rounding up the illegals, deporting them, and building a wall on our border as gritty shit, Ive been waiting for quit some time. I too am disgusted at how those Mexican flag sucking beggars come here and demand things from the American people that they don't deserve. It's time for America to lead by example once again, unfortunately we will probably be waiting until after 2012.

I like my father's idea of a minefield and machine gun nest on the border and I added where I would put nuclear waste on the border. My father said, "at least at night, they will glow green." Other nations protect their borders, why does this make us different?

Turning the Rio Grand into a crocodile sanctuary wouldn't hurt either......

Brynn I have a fence around my yard. If I saw your kind sneaking around my back yard I'd shoot you.

Gather just turned into the movie, "Deliverance".

At least the illegals coming over here are willing to WORK for a living... doing all the shitty work that's 'beneath' the average minimum wage working class or welfare recipient... I say, tax 'em like the rest of us and let them contribute. Right now, all America has led the world in is lazy... there's more money in being unemployed than getting paid minimum wage, and the rest of the jobs that ARE available, no one but the illegals will do.
How about for every illegal alien that wants to come over here, swap out two people on welfare and send them to that country... in my experience paying both illegals and citizens, one illegal does more work than two citizens. I hate to say it, but it's true.

So, how do we 86 this rogue congressional caucus anyway? I am in like flynn...

hehehe Monica

Great points Jeff... Only in America.... Does these stupid politians that we have in office, suffer from a guilt complex or what? Maybe, all of them should be made to see shrinks and have IQ tests....

Ironically,this could end up helping the Republicans,and keep this monstrous bill from coming to the floor for a vote tomorrow-Norman

You may be right norman... I hadnt thought of it in this way...

Yeah; The left could end up shooting itself in the foot.-Norman

No one will be elected without this group, as George Bush can tell you.

I know, it seems like in general, man and in particular, the United States for some reason does only have a lackluster sense of survival at best. If you would threaten a chicken, kitten, even a baby chick or any animal/bird and corner then, they will fight to the death and will not hold back. We were attacked on 9-11, yet, we are still not united in survival, I think that is stupid.

Then Jesus is stupid.

Personally, I welcome the opposition of the Hispanic Caucus as one other group opposing Obamacare -- which is a disaster waiting (until just after the 2012 elections, coincidently enought) to happen. Of course illegals shouldn't be covered -- but we shouldn't have 10 M + illegals anyway. This falls under the category: "Confusion to my Enemies."

Good points Daniel.... this makes sense to me..

The CHC shouldn't be allowed have their way in supported illegal aliens' invasion of the USA, and more pillaging of our tax treasuries, but what bothers me equally are all the people here (Marilyn, Vickey, Norman, Daniel) who are speaking out against the government healthcare. Aren't you people aware of how necessary this is ?
What if you come down with a serious long-term ailment (paralysis, MS, etc) ? You think your illustrious private insurer is going to cover millions of dollars of your healthcare needs for decades to come ? If so, you've been terrribly misled. The real situation is that, unlike the government, the private companies have one goal in mind,
To make money. They don't do that by shelling out millions to cover you for years to come. Guess what happens ? They drop you like a hot potato. The only way for all of us to be truly covered,and secure, is with national health insurance. This also will lower prices of private insureers by providing some real competition, not the cartel club they're getting away with now (that goes for hospitals, doctors, and pharmaceutical companies too.
Also, did you ever stop to think of what happens if you might lose your job, and with a high unemployment rate, you find it difficult to get back into the job market, and get on an employer-assisted health plan ? Want to pay $ 300/month for COBRA ?
This is the situation I am in now. I just lost my job 2 weeks ago, and now am without the Aetna coverage I had before. I'm 63 years old (still too young for Medicare), and have high blood pressure, and other serious health problems. So who pays for my medications ? Do you Norman ? Or you Daniel ? And who pays if you find yourself needing government healthcare someday ? and it's not there.
Oh, well maybe you've got millions stashed away ? Well, if that's the case then you can afford to shell out some more taxes to see to it that all American citizens (not illegal aliens) are secure and covered.

If anybody wants to exercise their civic rights (and duty), and BITCH OUT these Congressional Hispanic Caucus idiots, here is the whole rogue's gallery of them. Go for it !

Leadership of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus

Chairwoman: Nydia Velázquez (NY-12) Charles A. Gonzalez (TX-20)
2466 Rayburn 303 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515HOB
(202) 225-2361 (202) 225-3236

Ruben Hinojosa (TX-15) John Salazar (CO-3)
2463 Rayburn HOB 1531 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-2531 (202) 225-4761

Members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus

Joe Baca (CA-43) Xavier Becerra (CA-31) Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
2245 Rayburn HOB 1119 Longworth HOB 1224 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-6161 (202) 225-6235 (202) 225-6131

Jim Costa (CA-20) Henry Cuellar (TX-28) Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
1314 Longworth HOB 336 Cannon HOB 1440 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-3341 (202) 225-1640 (202) 225-2435

Luis V. Gutierrez (IL-04) Ben Ray Luján (NM-03) Robert Menendez (NJ)
2266 Rayburn HOB 502 Cannon HOB 317 Hart SOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20510
(202) 225-8203 (202) 225-6190 (202) 224-4744

Grace Napolitano (CA-38) Solomon P. Ortiz (TX-27) Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
1610 Longworth HOB 2110 Rayburn HOB 2465 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-5256 (202) 225-7742 (202) 225-4065

Pedro Pierluisi (PR) Silvestre Reyes (TX-16) Ciro D. Rodriguez (TX-23)
1218 Longworth HOB 2433 Rayburn HOB 2351 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-2615 (202) 225-4831 (202) 225-4511

Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34) Gregorio Sablan (MP) Linda Sanchez (CA-39)
2330 Rayburn HOB 423 Cannon HOB 1222 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-1766 (202) 225-2646 (202) 225-6676

José Serrano (NY-16) Albio Sires (NJ-13)
2227 Rayburn HOB 1024 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515 Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-4361 (202) 225-7919

Sorry that the names and addresses are bunched together so badly. I went through some time & effort to seperate them out, but it just got printed the way it is. Maybe they designed it that way to try to deflect criticism. Don't let them get away with it. Give'm hell!

I do think there should be NO caucuses in the Congress.

Right on,Charles; To me,they're racist.-Norman

Well, one of their groups is called "La Raza," in English it is called "The Race." There it is right there.

"I do think there should be NO caucuses in the Congress."

You really just might have something there.

It would solve it all, Congress is either all together or not. I think they should cut down or even eliminate the committees and sub-committees.

This happened in the early 50's, before I was born but my mother told me the story.

Grandma was very ill and was taken to the hospital but she could not be admitted without the $75 dollar admittance fee. They wired my father for the money. Dad wired the money and he and mom left to see grandma.
In a snafu, the wired money and my parents showed up at the same time.
The scene shocked my mother for the rest of her life. Her mother was on the lawn of the hospital, dying.
People going in and out of the hospital but not this sick lady, she didn't have $75 bucks.
The money arrived and some orderlies picked up grandma and put her in a room.
"I was almost a gonner" grandma told mom, and then she died.

That was an easy $75 bucks for the hospital, all they did was declare grandma dead.

I see some here on Gather want to go to the good old days.

Hopefully, after yesterday's vote (250 yes - 245 no) on the healthcare bill, and further action to make it law, idiotic things like this won't happen. Nowadays, even illegal aliens get emergency room care, however limited, based on the EMTALA law, and no one can be refused from there, but that's not enough. Every American citizen (not illegal aliens) should be assured full access to the American healthcare system, regardless of ability to pay.
I'll go 2 steps further. Every American citizen's pets (dogs, cats, birds) should be guaranteed veterinarian care as well. And every American citizen should be guaranteed
full access to the American legal system too, regardless of ability to pay, including getting a lawyer to file suit against a defendant who has wronged them, and caused damage$.
The amount of tax hikes on the super-rich that Democrats are now talking about is a drop in the bucket compared to what could/should be enacted. Want to know how much wealth the super rich have that they can be taxed without any pain to them ? It would make you sick.

"Right on,Charles; To me,they're racist.-Norman"

I agree. The Congressional Hispanic Caucus is one of the worst examples of racism (and selfishness) in American history. They want illegal aliens in the country (regardless of the harm), because they know most of them are Hispanic, and then they will appeal to them, racially, for votes. I would tell Hispanics in America to get over the idea that a Hispanic might serve you better than a non-Hispanic.
Actually the record shows quite the contrary. Since Mexicans arrived in the USA legal or otherwise) they've been treated a lot better here by White politicians (or Anglos as they sometimes express it), than they ever got treated by their hundreds of Hispanic "leaders" in Mexico. If that weren't the case, they wouldn't be here now, would they ?