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by Cheri Cabot
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April 4, 2006

Personal About Politics: GOP No Longer Patriotic Cheering for Olympic Loss

October 05, 2009 06:31 PM EDT (Updated: October 05, 2009 09:04 PM EDT)
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Remember when the GOP and right wing were constantly screaming in our faces about being patriotic? Remember if someone didn’t support the Iraq war they weren’t patriotic?

Remember when French fries were supposed to be called America fries because the French didn’t support the Iraq war? To call them French fries was unpatriotic.

Remember when the Dixie Chicks were chastised because they criticized then President Bush? They were called unpatriotic.

Remember when candidate Obama was called unpatriotic because he didn’t wear a flag lapel pin (even though John McCain didn’t wear one during a debate)?

The GOP and the right wing would wrap themselves in the American flag at the drop of a hat and dare anyone to not be as patriotic as they were.

And yet, when the United States lost the bid to hold the 2016 Olympics in Chicago the GOP celebrated with obvious glee. That’s not unpatriotic?

Why were they celebrating an American loss? Because President Obama, a resident of Chicago, was actively supporting the bid.

So, does that mean when our athletes attend the Olympics to compete and wear the jackets and uniforms that say “Team USA”, these same people     will boo? How do you think potential American Olympians feel knowing that Americans are cheering an American defeat? How demoralizing. How sad. How unpatriotic.

President Obama only flew to Copenhagen at the last minute to lend support of an American endeavor because the leaders of the other countries in contention were attending. He felt it was only appropriate for him to also show his support for his country by making a personal appearance, however brief. He was being patriotic.

I’m sure the United States, Japan and Spain were aware that Rio de Janeiro was favored since there has never been an Olympics in South America, and it was long overdue. However, in Japan and Spain, people showed obvious disappointment that their cities of Tokyo and Madrid were not chosen. Flip to news of the announcement in the U.S. and it shows Americans celebrating, cheering and whooping that an American city was not selected. In fact in one group they were particularly gleeful that Chicago was the first to be eliminated.

How will the Olympic Committee look upon this behavior – because the cheering groups were broadcast all over the world – when it comes time to consider the U.S.A. another time? You have to know they will think about it and question if America will fully support an Olympics. These same people who purport to be so patriotic may have torpedoed our shot at another Olympics. That’s not very patriotic.

This was not an Obama loss, this was not just a Chicago loss, it was an American loss. To cheer for that, is unpatriotic.


Cheri Cabot, Politics Correspondent

Cheri’s column, “Personal About Politics,” published every week, will reflect on how the life of a 60 year-old, middle class woman is affected by politics, policy and the current state of the nation - a look at the personal aspects of politics. Her column is part of Gather Essentials.

 

Cheri is a freelance writer, living in Southern California.  She has two grown children and three grandchildren.

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Comments: 134

George Shaw Oct 5, 2009, 7:02pm EDT
Cheri, you don't understand, that was patriotism for the Shrub, not for the country. Remember, "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels."
Cheri Cabot Oct 5, 2009, 7:04pm EDT
Ahhh...silly me.

(of course this lack of patriotism has nothing to do with race.....)

How is your trip?
George Shaw Oct 5, 2009, 7:23pm EDT
The trip is great, but time is going by too quickly. We have only about 3 more weeks. LOL
Karl Leuba Oct 8, 2009, 8:48am EDT
George good times never last long enough. January 2009 seems like yesterday. January 2001 feels like a different lifetime. Cheri understands perfectly well. Just like you and I do, that partisan politics color attitudes and behavior.

I was pessimistic and cynical about the potential for success with Bush at the helm of the ship of state. My dream was that he would either get it right, stop Dick Cheney from burning down the oil patch, or leave the work to the professionals, and be a figurehead. None of that happened. Today there is a relatively large group of revolting anti American traitors who are terrified that the government might just possibly start GOVERNING again. They are likely to lose all manner of opportunity to swindle and defraud if that happens.
George Shaw Oct 8, 2009, 12:18pm EDT
Yes, but when will someone start governing again. So far, I have seen dithering and retaining usurped power. Obama is going to have to learn that no one can make everybody love him.
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Dave A. Oct 5, 2009, 7:06pm EDT
I agree that cheering for the loss of the Olympics for Chicago is unpatriotic.

I'll be honest--I live in suburban Chicago and I was not excited about the prospect of losing access to the center city for awhile.

But the appropriation of the Republican Party by right-wing talk show hosts and anti-American elements is real news, and it is right that you bring it, Cheri.

Even David Brooks, a conservative columnist at the New York Times (who decried the devolution of the Republicans Sunday morning), can't control the spinning out of control of the Republicans.

And it can get worse. We may be at the cusp of violent acts by elements whipped into a frenzy by anti-American rants on talk radio and Fox News.
Kris M. Oct 5, 2009, 7:16pm EDT
Dave makes a good point. It wasn't long until these same elements whipped up the likes of Timothy McVeigh and other gun nuts (not to be confused with gun owners, of which I'm one) shortly after Clinton became president.

I'm curious as to how much of this idiocy is motivated purely by people who are terribly sore losers? They're awfully similar to the loudmouths bellowing boorishly at football coaches upon the commencement of a bad season -- the way Bobby Bowden is being treated is a good example.
Cheri Cabot Oct 5, 2009, 7:29pm EDT
I would also like to know how they are going to skew carrying a gun to rally that the president is attending as patriotic. You have to know that if any person brought a gun to anything Bush, they would have been called unpatriotic at the very least!

Ron Vanderford Oct 6, 2009, 2:45am EDT
Hi Cheri,

You mentioned the Congressman who changed french fries into freedom fries to show his intense patriotism. Although I have not wasted time Googling this guy I believe that this typical wacko GOP Congressman is still in prison.

Even McCain and Lindsey Grahman are coming to the realization that Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh, et al have no real political power. Yes, they can light up the phone lines to the White House and congressional offices but these self deluded right wing power brokers can't turn out the electorate. The GOP is now trying to increase their base and look for more moderate candidates. So, maybe they will regain their sanity and once again be a force to be reckoned with.
Dave A. Oct 6, 2009, 7:40am EDT
Bob Ney, (R - OH) got out of prison in August, 2008, after serving about 1-1/2 years of his 2-1/2 year sentence for crimes related to the Jack Abramoff scandal.

French fries became "freedom fries" on Capitol Hill in 2003 and reverted to "french fries" 27 months later in 2006.

Ron, I disagree that "Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh, et al have no real political power." On the contrary, they have hijacked the Republican Party. When you see apologies to Rush Limbaugh deliverd by the likes of Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele and Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) the power relationship becomes clear. I think you make a good point that whack-job radio hosts can flood the phone lines of elected officials but can't turn out the vote. It's a valid analysis of a major problem facing a party that is at this point in complete disarray.
Sheryl O. Oct 6, 2009, 10:16am EDT
"Ron, I disagree that "Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh, et al have no real political power." On the contrary, they have hijacked the Republican Party. "

Absolutely. And many Americans' minds as well. They actually remind me of the radio broadcasters in Rwanda who worked people up into a fury that turned into a genocide. These people need to be muzzled - I don't think what they are doing falls under the protection of free speech - what they are doing is inciting violence and revolution and murder.
Ron Vanderford Oct 6, 2009, 12:07pm EDT
Dave, Thanks for the update on Bob Ney, I had forgotten his name.

Dave and Sheryl, Thanks for your thoughts on the talk jocks and the GOP. Yes, I realize that several GOP notables have had to backtrack and essentially apologize to Limbaugh. But, the GOP has basically let itself be hijacked by wackos and now realizes it can no longer let them select who is going to run under the GOP banner. Look at the utter failure which Limbaugh encountered when he tried to get his minions to register as Democrats and vote for Hillary in an attempt to block Obama.

Lindsey Grahman was quite explicit recently when he labelled the birthers and other right wing nuts as wackos. Cheryl, you are correct though that the talk jocks are so incendiary that they probably can tip an unbalanced person over the edge. But, the reality is that there just is nothing which can be done about it and it's not going to stop because the talkers have no conscience and they drive their incomes up by saying more and more outrageous things.
Dave A. Oct 6, 2009, 12:23pm EDT
Glenn Beck has lost advertisers after calling President Obama a "racist." It's apparently possible to cross a line, although apparently one must go to extremes to reach it. New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman has warned that the frenzy of the right wing attacks against Obama remind him of the environment in Israel leading up to the assassination of PM Yitzhak Rabin. Of right-wing settlers and politicians, he says, "They questioned [Rabin's] authority. They accused him of treason. They created pictures depicting him as a Nazi SS officer, and they shouted death threats at rallies. His political opponents winked at it all."
Carla G. Oct 6, 2009, 1:46pm EDT
Yes, frightening isn't it? The talk show nuts on Fox are trying to whip up hatred for Obama with the idea that some idiot will decide to go after him.
Ron Vanderford Oct 6, 2009, 2:31pm EDT
Dave and Carla,

Great analogy regarding Rabin and Obama and I agree completely.

Yes, it is frightening that the wingnuts are drumming up hatred for Obama. While it is likely that every President has received some death threats I have either read or heard just recently that the Secret Service reports that the threats against Obama are up by 400% over what they were under Bush.
Jeannie B. Oct 6, 2009, 4:20pm EDT
"Glenn Beck has lost advertisers after calling President Obama a 'racist.'" His advertisers, but not his supporters. The GOP stays mum rather than take a stand against such nonsense.

Republicans/conservatives apparently hate Obama more than they love America. They will cheer anything that makes him look bad.
Ron Vanderford Oct 6, 2009, 8:34pm EDT
Jeannie,

Sadly, Beck's level of viewers has actually gone up since his vitriolic comments about Obama. But, I signed the Color of Change's petition which was sent to advertisers on Beck's show and apparently over 60 of them pulled their ads. The downside is that they are likely still advertising on Fox, just on different programs. At some point Beck will likely cost Fox more than he brings in and that will end his TV career.

You are right that the wingnuts hate Obama more than they love the USA. This shouldn't be surprising since many of these people are just not capable of love and a portion of their humanity is missing. Witness Limbaugh's 3 failed marriages. Also, a female friend was a decorator in NYC and oversaw the stone work in Limbaugh's penthouse there. She filled me in on what a hate filled individual he is.
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Johnice R. Oct 5, 2009, 7:27pm EDT
Cheri,the shame is in those who are celebrating the event as an Obama failure!

That is the most telling mark of anti-Americanism right there.

The hypocrisy in these people is just gob-smacking! They fly a flag from their home and stretch one on a fence or in a front window and order champaign when we lost a bid for the 2016 Olympic games. Sick is what comes to mind!
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John Philipp Oct 5, 2009, 7:27pm EDT
I agree with you, Cheri, this was not an Obama loss.

It was a GOP loss due to their behavior.
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WM H. Oct 5, 2009, 7:43pm EDT
".... the United States lost the bid to hold the 2012 Olympics in Chicago ..."

Me thinks you meant 2016.

Doesn't matter anyway the world is going kaput on winter solstice 2012.
Cheri Cabot Oct 5, 2009, 9:05pm EDT
I did mean that~ thanks!
Ishbel R. Oct 6, 2009, 2:15pm EDT
Yes.... this little island 'won' the games for 2012...
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APE 131313 Oct 5, 2009, 7:47pm EDT
This may end up being a blessing in disguise. Seeing a lot of backlash and posturing about just who these people are speaking for.
As an American I could no more believe ALL of the however many attendees at the 912 function would join in OR approve the inexcusable display of hubris and spite that was broadcast worldwide at the elimination of the USA.
Might be a way to rip off a few of the hundred different heads of the loosely organized fringe of the Anti Obama faction so they will have to declare themselves, make a decision and pick a leader.
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WM H. Oct 5, 2009, 7:48pm EDT
Did Chicago lose Olympic bid due to US passport control?

Yesterday, Chicago lost its bid for the 2016 Olympics (which went to Rio de Janiero instead), and it's looking very likely that US border procedures were one of the main factors which knocked Chicago out of the race: 'Among the toughest questions posed to the Chicago bid team this week in Copenhagen was one that raised the issue of what kind of welcome foreigners would get from airport officials when they arrived in this country to attend the Games. Syed Shahid Ali, an I.O.C. member from Pakistan, in the question-and-answer session following Chicago's official presentation, pointed out that entering the United States can be "a rather harrowing experience." ... The exchange underscores what tourism officials here have been saying for years about the sometimes rigorous entry process for foreigners, which they see as a deterrent to tourism.

http://current.com/items/91087941_did-chicago-lose-olympic-bid-due-to-us-passport-control.htm
Cheri Cabot Oct 5, 2009, 9:07pm EDT
That doesn't make much sense. Traveling to other countries there is much more security than in the US.
Our airport security is a joke compared to most countries, so I don't see how that would factor in....also Rio has one of the worst crime rates in the world....one would think that would be a consideration.
Janna R. Oct 6, 2009, 12:54pm EDT
Hmm--I'm not so sure about this.

Since 9/11/01, I've traveled to the Philippines, Canada, UK, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Holland, Belgium, Germany, France, Austria, Hungary, and Spain, with airport security experiences in the US, Japan, Philippines, UK, France, Hungary, Finland, Germany and Spain and several border crossings to and from Canada. My impression (based only on my experiences) is that the US is more stringent about airport/border security than any other country I've visited (particularly when it comes to entry/arrivals).
Ishbel R. Oct 6, 2009, 2:16pm EDT
Certain colleagues of mine (4 of them, to be precise) have refused to visit the USA any more because of their treatment at the hands of overzealous homeland security. If meetings are required - then the US delegates visit the UK!
Dave Sandborg Oct 6, 2009, 2:50pm EDT
I find US arrivals security procedures to be far more stringent than European arrivals. Departures may be more comparable. I'm no expert but as a whole I find the US to be using a lot of "security theater", procedures that don't necessarily make things more secure in reality but that give the impression that everything is locked down. This leads to a lot of hassles that I think could be avoided if more attention were paid to the reality than to appearances.
Chuck L. Oct 6, 2009, 8:35pm EDT
Coupla British Muslims park car=bombs that don't go off, and the USA reacts by... harassing airlines passengers. Stupid!
Ishbel R. Oct 7, 2009, 4:02am EDT
Odd - particularly in light of the fact that my colleagues all bear remarkably un-foreign names.... in reality all bearing good Scots names like Innes, Campbell etc!
Cheri Cabot Oct 7, 2009, 12:13pm EDT
Perhaps your are right, it is just security theater. I wouldn't doubt that. I cannot say I have traveled as extensively as some you have stated you have, so you are probably the better judge of that. The areas I traveled were Communist, so that is a completely different kettle of fish.
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Sean Mac Oct 5, 2009, 7:49pm EDT
I completely agree. Such juvenile, selfish behavior.

Ha ha, WM H! That's right. Isn't that the Aztec doomsday date?
WM H. Oct 5, 2009, 10:10pm EDT
Its the Mayans actually
Jeannie B. Oct 6, 2009, 4:25pm EDT
All this hoo-hah over 2012 is just the millennium all over again. I fully expect to celebrate Christmas 2013 here on Planet Earth - if I don't get hit by a bus first :-).
Sean Mac Oct 6, 2009, 7:03pm EDT
Yup. Me too Jeannie. And after 2012 passes then they will dig up another doomsday date from somewhere.
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Kathryn E. Oct 5, 2009, 8:01pm EDT
The GOP is a sorry excuse for being a sorry excuse.


It is true that Rio was the better choice of all, even though it has a high crime rate; it is an exotic city and the first in Brazil and S.A.

But yeah to booo because Obama went, that's just a sorry excuse for being a sorry excuse.

I am shocked to see the South in action, from my recent trip south of the mason dixon.
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Rory M. Oct 5, 2009, 8:10pm EDT
Ah, yes, hypocrisy. Along with fear and rage it is one of the main items on the menu for the right-wingnut sect.
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Eric Tsai Oct 5, 2009, 8:13pm EDT
I suppose it's the lurid aspect of being "politically engaged".
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Liz [site-Raven] Please critique my poetry. Oct 5, 2009, 8:40pm EDT
There is no "Grand Old Party" .......... it died a very long time ago. My mother would tell you that it died with the celebration of the "common man." I suppose that that time emerged during post WWII. That of course simply makes me chuckle, a very silly view. However, that said it does seem to have been invaded by the lowest of elements.
Cheri Cabot Oct 5, 2009, 9:08pm EDT
lowest elements indeed.
norman chambers Oct 6, 2009, 2:11am EDT
Such hypocrites you liberals are. Your arrogance is truely astounding!-Norman
Spencer T. Oct 6, 2009, 7:19am EDT
Its arrogant to expose those pulling against the country?
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 1:35pm EDT
The liberals are hypocrites? That's rich. The GOP invented the concept.
Jeannie B. Oct 6, 2009, 4:26pm EDT
Typical conservative response; all name-calling and no factual rebuttal.
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Jan S. Oct 5, 2009, 9:16pm EDT
Shouldn't we be good sports? I've seen photos of Americans crying because the Olympics won't be held in the US. That is embarrassing.

I didn't know that South America had never hosted the Olympics, so it seems about time. It might have helped our economy, but we can't be selfish or pout.
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 1:42am EDT
I don't agree. I don't think it's embarrassing if your city - or country - loses a bid to host the Olympics. It shows pride in your city and country. Isn't that what we are supposed to feel. I think it is more embarrassing that some people feel the need gloat about a loss.
Jan S. Oct 6, 2009, 5:19pm EDT
I think my statement was unclear, Cheri. It is not embarrassing to not be chosen, but to be photographed crying about it is.
When we watch sports, does the losing team cry? It is undignified and immature. Gloating over winning is also inapropriate. Americans ought to show more dignity.

Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 8:01pm EDT
If that's the case...about showing more dignity, why does the right wing contingency wear teabags on their hats and call our elected president a nazi? Why do they carry guns in the open when President Obama is in the area? That is undignified and inappropriate. Crying because you have pride in your city and country is not inappropriate. Yes, Americans should show more dignity, such as respect for the office of the President of the United States of America. You might want to pass along your suggestion of acting inappropriately and showing more dignity to your fellow right wingers. They most certainly need a lesson in those regards.
Jan S. Oct 6, 2009, 9:27pm EDT
Just a difference of opinon, I guess: "Crying because you have pride in your city and country is not inappropriate." The pictures I saw showed women in Chicago crying because their city wasn't chosen.
I understand the disappointment, but good sportsmanship suggests keeping a pleasant expression.

I cannot answer your questions, Cheri. I don't know the answers. I don't have any "fellow right wingers" either. Please don't label me. I am independent and do not wear labels.
Cheri Cabot Oct 7, 2009, 12:15pm EDT
I glad to hear that you are an independent. That being said, I think people cry for different emotions....happy, sad, excited, proud. I know I do. I don't consider it demeaning behavior....I consider it human behavior with empathy. Certainly nothing to be ashamed of.
Jan S. Oct 8, 2009, 12:27am EDT
As one who cries watching long distance commercials, I agree that any number of things trigger tears. I
t seems like poor sportsmanship, but now that I think about it, our country has very little experience with losing. I guess that would account for the tears.
In that light, I guess we should be proud of our record.
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''The One & Only BERF" .. Oct 6, 2009, 1:48am EDT
Let's be specific, Cheri.......

People are not "cheering because the U.S. lost the Olympics"........

They are cheering because Obama blew it on this one......
Sheryl O. Oct 6, 2009, 10:21am EDT
You're pathetic, Berf. Seriously. Re-read your comment over and over outloud and hopefully you will realize just how pathetic your comment is.

PRESIDENT Obama is everyone's PRESIDENT. CHICAGO is a city in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The US OLYMPIC TEAM is not a partisan organization, nor are the OLYMPICS events in any way, shape or form political. In fact, they were founded to bring nations together in peace and sportsmanship.

The GOP shows exactly the opposite - UNsportsmanship, as well as total lack of patriotism, class, intelligence, common sense, etc.

Un-freakin'-believable.
Lori F. Oct 6, 2009, 10:24am EDT
I am with Sheryl on this.


Liz [site-Raven] Please critique my poetry. Oct 6, 2009, 12:26pm EDT
Berf: "Let's be specific, Cheri.......

People are not "cheering because the U.S. lost the Olympics"........

They are cheering because Obama blew it on this one......
"


I think not. He had absolutely nothing to do with the decision. It is Rio's time. It is South America's time to shine.
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 1:38pm EDT
Absolutely right Liz. Obama didn't blow anything. He was aware that our chances were slim to begin with - Rio being the favorite, which is why he made the last minute trip in support of our bid. You gotta know that if he had not gone the GOP and right wing nuts would have said we lost it BECAUSE he DID NOT GO!!!
Carla G. Oct 6, 2009, 1:48pm EDT
Obama didn't blow it. Why do people try to make this into something personal against Obama?
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 2:05pm EDT
Because they don't like Obama. You will notice that at these gatherings of anti-Obama everything it is all white people. I'm just saying.....
Jeannie B. Oct 6, 2009, 4:29pm EDT
Berf is just jumping on the dis-Obama bandwagon. He probably believes that everything he hears on clusterFox News is factual and/or impartial.
Chuck L. Oct 6, 2009, 8:44pm EDT
BERF is a gurl. And a Beck fan.
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Maire M. Oct 6, 2009, 3:00am EDT
I saw a lot of yammering on Fox about how Chicago is a corrupt and crime-ridden hell-hole, etc. You know, as opposed to Rio, which is free of ills like crime and poverty. Jeez.

I wonder if they'll cheer that we're rated the 13th best country to live in. Probably not, since it's our lousy health care and lousy educational system that earned us this honor, and heaven forbid we should do anything to fix those problems.
Jeremy L. Oct 6, 2009, 4:25am EDT
Does anyone else see it? We are like Pavlov`s dogs here---once again we have this overriding sentiment that all of the voices of dissent are all eminating from Fox. Surely, if you disagree with Obama policy, you are from the GOP, and you watch only FOX. Does anyone actually believe this? Morever, do you have such disdain for your fellow Americans who work at FOX--the highest rated cable news station by a ridiculous margin--that they have lost their humanity? They are dogs? They aren`t Americans.

If we keeping arguing over which news programs we watch, we will 1) never agree, and 2) always argue about things BESIDES the actual issues that matter. Anyone else see what a tremendous distraction this is?
Dexter S. Oct 6, 2009, 1:21pm EDT
Fox does not have cable "news".. it purly entertainment for the ill at heart
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 2:06pm EDT
You do realize of course that a large portion of those watching FOX are watching with distain and to see what they are up to, not because they are fans.
Jeannie B. Oct 6, 2009, 4:32pm EDT
I totally disagree with some of the President's policy, yet I do not cheer when things go badly for him. The GOP, on the other hand, only believe in the sanctity of the office of President when it is occupied by a Republican -- and never when it's occupied by an African-American.
Jeremy L. Oct 7, 2009, 5:12am EDT
Cheri,

If that is the case, shouldn't there be an equal number of folks watching the other networks? Everyone who watches Olbermann surely agrees with his views, right?

OK, I give. Trying to have a factual argument, where we talk about something as basic as ratings, just can`t happen with people who put out this quality of debate.
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Jeremy L. Oct 6, 2009, 4:12am EDT
Were all of the folks who opposed the Olympics coming in 2016 from the GOP?

So, by this logic, the complaints that "the GOP" made about patriotism are valid, because we have deemed those who oppose the Chicago bid are unpatriotic, correct?

Foks, we HAVE to get out of this two-track line of thinking---it isn`t GOP and Democrats. We need to stop classifying argumetns like this. One, it oversimplifies the issue, ignoring all of the gray areas between the two parties, and two, it furthers this divisive "two camp" political mindset that is crippling our country with partisan arguing.

Arguments that I have heard people--not the GDP---saying are things like: "the Olympics overwhelmingly tend to be a financial loss for the cities that host them" or "we have more pressing issues to address than sending our president and his wife, on two separate chartered jets, to Copenhagen to make a case for Chicago in front of the Olympic Congress".

Now, aren`t those fair concerns, assuming both are true? If they aren`t factual, then let us disucss the facts, but if they are I think people have a right to condemn the games coming to our shores in 2016.
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Larry M. Oct 6, 2009, 7:36am EDT
What do they care about patriotism? This is politics. There's money involved.
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Geoff Geauterre Oct 6, 2009, 9:01am EDT
Cheri,
Think a moment. With all that's happened, and all that's happening, can we really afford to throw borrowed money into this? I don't think so, and neither should you.
Jeremy L. Oct 7, 2009, 5:15am EDT
Seems like common sense to me.
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Angela A. Oct 6, 2009, 10:16am EDT
I'm not too sure why anyone would be cheering this loss to the economy. If the Olympics would have been held in Chicago, that would have brought tourists, money and more people from around the world.
How is this a thing to cheer?
I'm severely confused.
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 2:07pm EDT
As well you should be. Olympics cost a lot, but also bring in massive amounts of money. And think of all the jobs it would have created.
Jeremy L. Oct 6, 2009, 10:34pm EDT
Angela,

A lot of people believe this, but do some research---you will find that in a vast majority of cases the cities that host the olympics lose big time.
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Sheryl O. Oct 6, 2009, 10:24am EDT
There are no truly appropriate words to define the GOP at this point, Cheri. I am disgusted, repulsed, insulted and ashamed. It's bad enough for people in the limelight to try to gain attention with these infantile, idiotic acts, but for some of the citizens of this country (some of whom are commenting right here on this article) to try in any way, shape or form to justify this type of dispicable behavior. UGH! I really am starting to hate, yes, HATE, these so-called Americans. They are not at all what I consider real citizens to be.
Dexter S. Oct 6, 2009, 1:22pm EDT
I agree 100%
Rude D. Oct 7, 2009, 8:11am EDT
YUP!!!!
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 10:00am EDT
Sort of how we felt a few years ago when you libs kept tearing down our great country. Know this -- we love our country, but hate what your party is trying to do to this nation. We will do everything in our power to stop your success (which we consider a failure)
Sheryl O. Oct 7, 2009, 10:35am EDT
You mean when liberals protested an unjust invasion of another country based on lies, Don? You mean when liberals protested the blatant skirting of our laws and moral and ethical heritage when Bush championed torture? Explain how defending the rights and morals of our country equate to cheering when the country as a whole loses.
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 1:29pm EDT
The fact that you still call it 'lies' is more of the same old tired liberal whining that split this country. You people couldn't even be intellectually honest in your debate. It's always accusations of lies, racism, greed, etc.
Sheryl O. Oct 7, 2009, 2:39pm EDT
You would have to know the meaning of the word "lie" and then be able to recognize one, Don, when it is clearly proven to be what it is. That is not 'liberal whining', that is reasoning based on factual evidence. One of the problems with the GOP - they cannot discern fact when their faces are buried in them. They continue the same ol' propaganda, hoping that repetition will make a lie a fact.
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 5:19pm EDT
If he irrefutable lied, there would have been an investigation (at least in 2006) followed by impeachment.
Sheryl O. Oct 7, 2009, 5:41pm EDT
Oh, yeah....investigations have never been squashed or sidetracked. Seriously. There's a lot of proof out there. It has been a major disappointment of the Obama Administration that they did not jump on this immediately. I hear things are happening behind the scenes, but with the state of the country right now, I don't think any politician has the balls to actually call for this. They're scared of their own shadows. It's pathetic. The Rule of Law is simply a meaningless phrase in this country today.
Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 7, 2009, 5:45pm EDT
I believe that the idea by 2006 was to forget impeachment and concentrate on winning the election. Seems to have worked.
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 8, 2009, 11:33am EDT
Sheryl, what you call lies were IN FACT believed to be true by many intelligence agencies throughout the world, as well as both Democrats and Republicans even before Bush was in office, and both Dems and Repubs voted in an overwhelming majority to go into Iraq based on LONG STANDING intelligence coupled with other reasons such as the Iraq Liberation Act (signed into law by Clinton), more than a few UN Resolutions, etc. So for you to try to spin this as a lie by Bush is just ridiculous. It's simple minded and ignores way too much.

Sheryl O. Oct 12, 2009, 12:05pm EDT
That's what makes it an effective lie - so many people believed it. Doesn't mean it wasn't a lie, though. They played on the fear of the public expertly. I'll give them that. Mushroom cloud and all.
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Chas Andrews Oct 6, 2009, 1:26pm EDT
thanks!
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Carla G. Oct 6, 2009, 1:44pm EDT
Everyone knew that it was a long shot for Chicago to get it. South America had never had an Olympics and were long overdue to be awarded one.
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Winston Smith Oct 6, 2009, 3:04pm EDT
Montreal just got done paying for their 1976 Olympics in 2007.

Just borrow the money from China? Print more?

Obama just got done telling the world at the United Nations how bad we are then he bopped into Copenhagen to tell them we want the Olympics. Can't have it both ways.
Jeannie B. Oct 6, 2009, 4:34pm EDT
He did not tell "the world at the United Nations how bad we are ". Did you actually listen to his speech, or you just channelling Faux Noise?
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 7:52pm EDT
Obviously he didn't listen to the speech.
Chuck L. Oct 6, 2009, 8:47pm EDT
Winston, were you born this stupid, or have you been perfecting the skill?
Jeremy L. Oct 6, 2009, 10:43pm EDT
OK---here we go again---let me just point out that the first person to break loose with names and insults was Chuck. More of that love and understanding we can expect from "the left" correct? I suppose this is just a minature version of "diplomacy in action"---a thinking man`s way of debate.

Nevermind the points he made in his comment---let`s not debate those....let`s just call people names and stir the hate. That works well. I don`t want to hear ANYTHING about how you and Dexter are against "Purveyors of Hate and Bigotry" after these recent displays. Walk the walk, guys.
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norman chambers Oct 6, 2009, 7:46pm EDT
The President just found out that he's not as popular over the pond as he thought he was;We went out in the first round with the fewest number of votes. The cost to the City of Chicago would have been enormous;they have better things to spend their money on.-Norman
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 7:54pm EDT
Obama is extremely popular around the world, in fact in some countries more popular than their own head of state. Are you from Chicago? Do you know they have better things to spend their money on? Do you know they didn't want it?
Ishbel R. Oct 7, 2009, 4:04am EDT
'Over the pond' has nothing to do with it. The IOC are a multi-national group with - GASP - representatives from Africa and other continents, too - not just Europe.
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norman chambers Oct 6, 2009, 7:49pm EDT
Don't you people ever get tired of this race-baiting,anti-Republican crap? Say something intelligent for a change!
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 7:52pm EDT
hmmmm...could say the same for you.
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 7:54pm EDT
Like, don't you get tired of anti-Obama crap?
norman chambers Oct 7, 2009, 3:46am EDT
Cheri,it's obvious that you're a true believer,so nothing I can say is going to change your mind. But would you be as fervant in your defense of a black president if he (or she) were conservative? You're not defending the President's blackness;you're defending his political philosophy. The fact that he's black is just a bonus.-Norman
Jeremy L. Oct 7, 2009, 5:04am EDT
The race issue is getting so worn out. I hate to admit it, but as soon as the word "racism" comes out of someone's mouth these days, I stop listening. It shuts down debate, and the word is actually a pretty heavy word, and should only be used when there is evidence that it has occured. Using it so frivilously is just diminishing its weight nationwide.
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 9:58am EDT
Yeah -- because PRIOR to Obama becoming our BLACK President, you just know that I loved American Liberalism! Right?????? But now that we have a BLACK liberal, well, my liberalism has gone out the window, trumped by my uncontrollable racism!!!! How dumb.

Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 7, 2009, 5:48pm EDT
"The race issue is getting so worn out." Yup. Especially since racism isn't a factor in American politics at all. :)
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 8, 2009, 11:27am EDT
Nippy -- not to any extent that is worrisome or even worth mentioning.
Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 8, 2009, 12:31pm EDT
In what universe?
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Prima Donna Oct 6, 2009, 7:58pm EDT
Watch the video of the GOP cheering at the Americans for Prosperity summit here -- some patriots! Come on Repubs, let's get with the program. We are one nation. We are all Americans.
Cheri Cabot Oct 6, 2009, 8:02pm EDT
And this is our President of the United States.
Prima Donna Oct 6, 2009, 8:40pm EDT
I am so glad he rises above petty politics. He is cool, calm and one class act. Reminds me why I voted for him in the first place.
norman chambers Oct 7, 2009, 3:31am EDT
A lot of people thought Hitler was a class act too.
Rude D. Oct 7, 2009, 8:17am EDT
From your own quote:
Don't you people ever get tired of this race-baiting,anti-Republican crap? Say something intelligent for a change!

But never tired of comparing President Obama to Hitler.
Your hate disgusts me!!!!
Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 7, 2009, 5:49pm EDT
"A lot of people thought Hitler was a class act too." And your point is?
norman chambers Oct 7, 2009, 8:31pm EDT
The "Point" is that like Hitler,President Obama is surrounded by this "cult of personality";this blind devotion to one person. This type of adoration,in the past, led to a very distructive war with millions dead on both sides. Obama is leading us to economic ruin,and you true believers seem more than willing to follow him over the cliff.-Norman
norman chambers Oct 7, 2009, 8:43pm EDT
Who said anything about race,Rude D? How can you call me a bigot when you don't even know from what context I was speaking? Read my comment to Nippy. The President is certainly no killer,but he is pursuing the same ruinous policies that the Natioanal Socialists did in Germany back in the Thirties. The point was that you,and people like you,seem more than willing to let him do it.-Norman
Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Oct 8, 2009, 12:35pm EDT
I didn't care for the comparisons of Bush to Hitler and I don't care for the comparisons of Obama to Hitler. Certainly Hitler was a charismatic speaker. Anyone who's seen "The Triumph of the Will" will agree.

Neither Bush nor Obama are megalomaniacs with a delusional program of world conquest and genocide.

BTW, I think Bush was the worst president in my lifetime. I think overall Harding and Coolidge were worse along with a couple of 19th century one termers. He's nowhere near Hitler. Heck, he's not even Anastasio Somosa.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Oct 6, 2009, 8:44pm EDT
Cheri,

Thank you -- again -- for your article, and one of many very conscientious and insightful writings.

See, here is the thing, from my perspective: none of this is new; it's racism .


If there is anything that astonishes me, it is that so many people are astonished at the mindset and the depths to which people go when it comes to racism; the depths are as bottomless as the bottomless pits.

Another thing that I find amusing is when people attempt to accuse African Americans of racism, as though it is really going to detract and distract from the real hatred -- their OWN hatred.

Hear me out, and please do not lose sight that I am speaking from experience and not from opinion and/or theory: there is no limit to which racists will go to express their hatred. It is one of the vilest, evilest, most despicable sentiments that I have had the displeasure of ever experiencing. It's also why I constantly say,

I want front row, center seats to the event where all of these injustices, and all of the wickedness converges and is judged.


There is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING that is worth the loss of my soul to eternal, everlasting torment and punishment, and only a fool would think otherwise. Comparatively speaking, these people are "doing their thing" now, and for what? Power, wealth, ego and self-importance?

Jesus summed it up very well when he said, "what value is it to win, or gain the entire world, but lose your soul to eternal damnation."

The racial hatred that people feel shall never be overcome, and it shall never be legislated away. But a day of reckoning is coming, and I plan to witness the demise of those whose actions have been, most prominently, hatred, and iniquity.
~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Oct 6, 2009, 8:48pm EDT
Clarification on my last comment: The racial hatred that some people feel shall never be overcome, and it shall never be legislated away. But a day of reckoning is coming, and I plan to witness the demise of those whose actions have been, most prominently, hatred, and iniquity.
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Guy W. Oct 6, 2009, 9:20pm EDT
I was just about to get PO'ed and Ahmad Jamal came on the satellite.
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Sue B.© The Sting IS Worse Than the Buzz Oct 7, 2009, 1:31am EDT
The fact is that the boon to the economy for hosting the games is dubious so it isn't really a loss at all since his reasoning was to boost Chicago's economy. If you don't like WSJ, you might like it better from NPR.
Rude D. Oct 7, 2009, 8:22am EDT
It is TRUE, they want America to fail in every respect of the word fail!

Only because they Hate the Black President!!!!
Sue B.© The Sting IS Worse Than the Buzz Oct 7, 2009, 9:02am EDT
"Only because..." with three exclamation points, huh? Any particular reason only three?

Maybe you meant to put that in a new thread and maybe you didn't, but the fact is that you didn't. I really wish you had because I hate being the bearer of bad news; the world around you isn't at all as simple as you are.
Rude D. Oct 7, 2009, 9:25am EDT
Great comeback, you really put me in my place.

Now, that Obama is Hitler sign will not paint itself, get crackin!!!

Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 9:54am EDT
Rude -- we prefer to conserve and recycle. Perhaps you can lend us one of your Bush Hitler signs and we'll just paste Obama's head in place.
Sue B.© The Sting IS Worse Than the Buzz Oct 7, 2009, 10:39am EDT
You seem to be the frustrated artist, Rude, painting the world in one boring color from your narrow perspective. Did you happen to read either of the linked articles? Do you have any substantive commentary to offer about them as related to the comment I left with them, or is the ignorant, broad stroke of racism all you can offer?

That's a very good one, Don!
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Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 9:52am EDT
We are cheering for one reason: Obama chose to enter the fray and he failed. We cheer his failure because we know it hurts him from accomplishing his stated goals of further destroying this country with his socialist programs. You don't have to read into anymore than that.

Of course we want our athletes to win when they compete -- that is their battle that they worked for -- nothing to do with Obama.

Get it?
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nick santiago Oct 7, 2009, 11:11am EDT
Overtaxed: Post your return & will post mine
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 1:31pm EDT
you first... i await your post.
Don (are we Marxist yet?) H. Oct 7, 2009, 1:33pm EDT
Maybe this will clue you in.... but I doubt it.

http://www.gather.com/viewImage.action?fileId=3096224744840273
Charles Temm JR Oct 10, 2009, 3:13pm EDT
Hey if you don't feel you're taxed enough Nick, feel free to make a gift to the government. It won't bother any of us and you'll be able to claim you actually stand for your principles.
nick santiago Oct 10, 2009, 4:49pm EDT
Taxes is the fare we have to pay to ride in this great train. (USA).
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norman chambers Oct 8, 2009, 3:00am EDT
You're right,Jeremy; The word has definitely lost its shock value.
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Sandre M. Oct 8, 2009, 1:24pm EDT
So, anyway, Cheri, your original assumption about the GOP simply being poor sports and unpatriotic seems to be borne out here. Apparently, they missed the memo from the last election in which the American people told them to cut the partisan politics or suffer the consequences.
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Charles Temm JR Oct 10, 2009, 3:09pm EDT
And now Dems do the same thing...so much for the differences between parties.

The thing that bothers me about the Olympic mess was why would a US president, one especially claiming the world is falling apart now bother to get involved in something no one before him bothered with? He had to know that anything like this would bounce back negatively on him. He got quite a bit of criticism from the Left too if you bothered to look.

Perception is everything, especially today and it simply did not look good for the President to fly over and then have his presentation basically ignored by the Committee.
nick santiago Oct 10, 2009, 4:59pm EDT
The committee also ignored the Spanish king and Japan's PM, I am sure that the people of Japan and Spain did not act like some folks here did.

Charles Temm JR Oct 11, 2009, 2:53pm EDT
Many, if not most Americans didn't particularly care. The most virulent opponents of Obama took it as a loss of face for him while his supporters that cared acted like it was a blow to America.
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*Carol ~Bronx Southern Belle D. Dec 1, 2009, 4:08pm EST
Maybe we would be more upset if we, GOP, weren't worried about Afghanastan, and wondering why the president and you aren't more concerned.
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