I just got an email from Scooter Van Nueter

If you sensor atheists then you have to censor christians too.

bingo
lights go on !

I'm not censoring.

"I find some of the witches and atheists pretty offensive, and I think they are anti-Christian and should be censored as well"

Umm...make up your mind.

She,

" "I find some of the witches and atheists pretty offensive, and I think they are anti-Christian and should be censored as well" "

I don't believe for a micro-second that you didn't notice you were chopping the beginning of that sentence off . .

"If they censor this group . . "


What a creep.

Wahooo...you guessed the picture! (actually I have a runny nose and I went bang, now me green all over...waaaaa)

Does no-one have a sense of humor anymore? Gee willies...

Ef you, creep,

Thank you..but blessings to you anyway.

Whispers to She behind hand, " I think Johnny boy likes you.... tee hee!"

Hee hee...I see that, he wants to give me an ef (someone should tell him that might be considered sexual harrassment)

(And people wonder why God would let some folks go ? ; )

"(And people wonder why God would let some folks go ? ; )"

Johnny boy, that is against scriptures! Good Christian ethics, there, Johnny! You are another example of why people are leaving their churches and the religion. How do you think Jesus feels about that? The Bible will tell you.

I haven't seen the banner. However, if it is racist in any way, it falls under hate crime. And they'd darn well better delete it.

You need to look up the definition of "hate crime". LOL. It's free speech.

Scooter Van Nueter, the guy who censors his posts so NOBODY can criticize him? What a sick individual screaming censorship when he does it ALL THE TIME.

What a SHAMELESS hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J. Mcd Not hate crime, satirical, Gather allowed the satirical spoofs of Bush, so, you and the other Obama fans will have to just get used to it!

Rude, Rude, Rude, guess your teachers never taught you satire. Pity what passes for education nowadays.

I happen to agree with you on this one. I found some of the satirical images of both presidents were (are) quite clever. There is absolutely no reason for any of them to be sanctioned from this or any other website.

hear hear walker...... you are so right

Two flies on the same turd! Expected!

How elegant Johnice.......

Agreed Walker . .
Agreed Nora . .

Walker Bennett, SF Author Sep 25, 2009, 6:54pm EDT
I happen to agree with you on this one. I found some of the satirical images of both presidents were (are) quite clever. There is absolutely no reason for any of them to be sanctioned from this or any other website.

I saw it , it is a racial slur and totally unexceptionable both cartoons of Obama and Michelle where done with a out and out blatant smack of racism
Peter has a post about it

Vivian,
If it's offensive, did you find Bush as Hitler offensive. I did, but I didn't ask it to be censored.

I found it over the top yes
BUt that banner offended a lot of people

exactly why did you find it to be so vivan?...... the same kind of cartoons have been published for years of those in the public arena...to think that the ones of BO and my belle michelle are racist is racist in it's self......

Oh yeah I'm racist alright !!! Ha Ha big belly laughs here

I am calling it what it is dear one.

Sol, Vivian "the I am so tired of the racism issue" loves to play the bigotry and racist card about anything in opostition to her god (please note lower case).

??

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977814739

Vivian P. Sep 16, 2009, 12:14pm EDT
I for one am tired of the mud slinging and the name calling
it is nauseating






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Sue Live Free or Die Sep 16, 2009, 8:01pm EDT
Vivian P. Sep 7, 2009, 8:52pm EDT
to be honest I think it's bigotry, not just racism but because his father was Islam.

What has caused you to tire of the mud slinging? You my dear were the very first person here that I saw the hate speech from. Ever time I see you, I think, there's the one that branded everyone the disagrees with the issues, a bigot.


and as of today, you're right back to calling things racist without a clue as to whether the person involved here had that intention.

I can only go by what you post Vivian. Everytime I see you post, all I can see is that you think being against your god's policies is bigotry. I don't want to know you because of your posts.

wooooo hoooooo sue.....

vivian..... do not patronize me with....dear one.... it is demeaning to you....

woohoo sue, my ass. the next time you want to give someone props for a comment make sure the ENTIRE comment is posted and more importantly, make sure sue isn't full of shit. here's vivian's entire comment, including her comment right before it:

Vivian P. Sep 7, 2009, 8:41pm EDT

"I believe these people are being untruthful about their motives here and in all of their outlandish claims about our president . It makes me sock, never do I remember having this kind of behavior against any president tin the past."

lloyd c then says:

"....I just want people to be honest and tell me why they so despise our President. I want to know why they can't do as we did and wait until the next election if they are so upset with our current President."


to which vivian replies:

"to be honest I think it's bigotry, not just racism but because his father was Islam. What scares me the most about these folks who have clearly misplaced their gray matter is the sheer number of them and the fact that this garbage spews over into the news cast."

Thank you Lori, I forgot to add she had labelled everyone untruthful without having met me or talk to me. Then labelling as having made outlandish claims! Read more, I spoke out in that very forum. I am not a birther, not a teabagger or partier, not anything that people were labelling people.

So thank you Lori for showing exactly why my first encounter here was offensive from the git go. Offensive from the start thanks to Vivian.

make sure sue isn't full of shit

I bet you wish I was full of it. Then both of you could feel good. Too bad, Vivian set the tone. Just like encounters with sexual offenders, I have no trouble holding them accountable (it's my job). Vivan posted it and I will hold her accountable for her own words.

you can't be talking about the thread where you half ass quoted vivian. she doesn't even address you on that thread. so at what point does she "set the tone" and make your first encounter "offensive"?

make sure sue isn't full of shit?

sho' nuf, puddin'.

Lori, love your vocabulary!

i find gather's actions ....... i don't even know the word..... yes, terrible things were said and pictures show of president bush.....yet they were not censored...... so let's be really "politically (puke) correct" and censor everything......i am a bleed red, white and blue american...*gasp* ... i should be censcored... freedom of speech must already be gone...... i thought we had at the very least a few months left........ be ashamed gather, be ashamed.....

It is called reversed racism.

there is No such thing as reverse racism it is all racism

Fine, by your own words you label yourself.

PS. As far as I am concerned you labeled me and everyone else that disagrees with P O L I C I E S a bigot.

live free or die.....keep on keeping on............

Solskin Iam, Sue Live Free or Die & *Carol ~Bronx Southern Belle D, how wonderful, it must be nice to be you--NOT! You and your pose of illiterates need to find another hobby being evil, intensely spiteful, causing harm to others must be quite tiresome. We all know it is ungodly, UN-Christian, and totally ugly--you must like living in that state of mind. I want so much better for you.

Either you have no job or not a very responsible one to build your self image. Stop your hate and your life will be flooded whit good stuff. Like fighting against ignorance an intolerance. Just like the rest of the Nation at least 70%. Would you not want to be with the majority? Just saying!!!!!

Johnice....... if the majority are like you i do believe i would rather be me... talk about being UN-Christian....... you need to read the Book...... Just saying!!!!!!

JOhnice, not if the majority is stupid...

you're worst than children with your they did it first mentality.

You got that 100% right Lori

Just like four years stomping their feet and saying "uh uh...I didn't do nothing wrong, they did...they the bad guys"

Oh well, if they can't play nice with the other kiddies, then get your toys ad get out of the sandbox.

oops! that should have been worse.

Let's face it, Carol........

The Liberal Loonies are not only taking over this site completely, but Gather itself is becoming nothing more than a platform to push the anti-American, "Yes-We-Can," ultra-politically-correct, liberal agenda that is undermining and slowly destroying this nation........

Mark my words....It will not be long until every one of us is either silenced, beaten into submission, or thrown off the site all together.........

three cheers for you BERF....... i do think you have the picture...... as long as i have breath i will stand up for america and it's constitution......

I've seen more conservative hate speech on this site than anything done by these so called Liberal Loonies so not sure what you are looking at...

"Listen, it dont really matter to me
Baby, you believe what you wanna believe
You see, you dont have to live like a refugee.

Baby, we aint the first
Im sure a lot of other lovers been burned
Right now this aint real to you
Its one of those things you got to feel to be true

Honey, it dont make no difference to me
Baby, everybodys had to fight to be free
You see, you dont have to live like a refugee
No baby, you dont have to live like a refugee......."

The hate oozes from you folk like a noxious slime
what the heck are you talking about ?

I'm still laughing about that racist remark

can we use our own word here ?

Sorry, I had to leave to go battle my beliefs on Jesus. I don't think the lefties are winning. I have an inside track that we are winning.

Vivian,
You are the only one spouting the word hate here.

Actually Berf, as soon as cap and trade passes, internet access will only be for those that can afford it. Most people here wont be around when they see the cost the government charges for electricity (and climate control for servers is VERY expensive) Well the price will defiantely double. Then of course the food price hikes due to the tax on delivering the food, etc etc...

I think you will see a "Be careful what you wish for" happening.

You know it.......

.....and I know it........

.....but, what difference does it make??........

E..I...E..I...O

(sorry for some reason that came into my head with your comment)

No problem..........

Maybe you can get another article out of it :>)

You are the only one spouting the word hate here
???
This is a joke
right ?

Nah...I am going out with my husband and son for a late dinner, then going out dancing with my husband then come home and make fun loving. Then tomorrow I will be going with my son to the recruiting office to be with him to find out when he is leaving us.

Well, Nellie, I hope he comes back to you safe and sound.......

And I really mean that......

Thank you. I am very proud of his decision.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Buh bye

Nellie? It's Nellie? What branch Nellie?

Some people take satire in the wrong context, yet turn right around and do the same thing because they think they're not offending someone else, that eveyone shares the same belief's they do.

which is exactly what you are doing here !

?

Oops they not you sorry

Logically it takes both a right wing and a left wing to FLY, so where have we gone wrong ?

We haven't gone wrong, Vivian. The plane is flying.

Labels..labels..labels.

If people took the labels off of their comments, they might just find others would give them more respect.

Meaning, Lefties, righties, buttkissers, worshipers and on and on....
That is why I get into things because I have to sit and laugh at those who go into these little "label games" like little kids.
So I nag those folks, tease them, give them a hard time...because I am hoping..sometimes beyond hope, that they will stop and think "gee, maybe if I stop Labeling people, others might listen to my opinion with respect."....but nope, instead the moment someone says "I like Obama"...it is oh you are wrong, you are godless, you are a loon and on and on...(and it goes the other way around also, if someone don't like Obama, they get belittled also...)

It is like Carol knows that throwing the word Pagan or Witch around is going to hit my feeds and bring me to her posts, she wants me to get angry so she can go into her God speech and say I am evil or Godless, or whatever...when in truth, I know my heart and I am not Godless because I do believe in Gods and Goddess's just like my ancestors did over 1000 years ago. Something (sorry Carol, but lets be honest here) Carol, cannot accept that it is my ancestory I am following, those who have been in my family I give honor to.
I do not disrespect Carol for practicing Christianity, that is her right...and I am glad for her. If it makes her happy, then it should. There is nothing wrong with that. I would never put her down for her love for her God, but in all respect, she shouldn't disrespect me because of my love for my God.

I do not pray in a Christian way, but I do give Carol and others my blessings....

we're crashing at a very high rate of speed speed

I don't know who She of 1000 names is, but I gotta say I like her!

she of a thousand names..... you went from Gods and Goddess's to God.... so which is it.....not putting you down... you have the right to believe as you wish....just as i have the right to belive that Gods and Goddess's just does not hack it.... only one true God.....

Many God(s) and gods ... but only One True GOD ... basically a stranger to most "religious".

The point is it is satire. Bart Simpson is satire. Do you not like the Simpsons? It's just that this president is somewhat black. What about the cover of The New Yorker? That was pretty offensive but the idiots missed the point. Satire is funny, and Obama thought it all right to blast Bush then he should be fine with getting it back.

no I do not like the Simpsons in fact I do not cre for any humor that is hurtful to another

I wonder what would have happened if Obama had been the one sitting here.

Thank you, Sue. Why is Vivian not offended by that one?

It doesn't fit Vivian's agenda.

how do you know I am not offended ?

WEll are you? As far as I'm concerned, case closed, just having looked at that one Bush link from Sue.

Legal case, if you've accepted others, you cannot arbitrarily, by party, disavow the satire toward the new guy.

So looks like you'll have to live with Obama Satire! : )

Can you read what she said, rug rat? No one is concerned with what you are concerned with - you dictate to no one.

Calm down folks and think about this. Here is Peter's comment:

The Obama pic is subtle unless you know that the big ole malt beer spliced in Obama's hand is a derogatory black drunk ghetto cliche.


I'd never heard this before yet my 22 year old and 19 year old sons knew it very well.

Here is Scooter's comment in his message:

The photo of Obama is of him drinking a beer and is widely circulated on the web. The fact I put a Colt 45 in his hand instead of the original beer makes this "racist?" How is that?


This is from the Urban Dictionary:

Ghetto Gas 11 up, 2 down
40oz Malt Liquor i.e Bull Ice, Camo, Colt 45, Eagle, Green Lighting, Hurricane, IceMan, King Cobra, LASER, Mustang, Old English, Pit Bull, Prime Time, Schlitz Malt Liquor, The Cat, Red Dog, Old German, Miller High Life, Iron City, Four O etc...

We neesta fill up our tanks wit some ghetto gas so we can make to da end of da party.


If Obama was already holding a beer, why did Scooter have to change it to a Colt 45? Specifically a Colt 45?

Good question. Ask him, but my point is why are we so sensitive after calling Bush stupid, and Hitler? What is good for the goose is good for the old gander.

I think he made a mistake here Carol. I don't have a problem with the distorted pictures. I've seen enough in politics how cruel people can get. But it's part of the deal. I think this is going way overboard and everybody is OVERREACTING but I've got to admit the Colt 45 beer troubles me. Why change it?

Yes, Cathi, Sccoter may have crossed a line with the Colt 45, but until I read Peter's post, I had never seen it and neither would I have known the connotation if I had seen it. Scooter may have been wrong to post it now that I know what it means, (not the Michelle pic though) but PJS thinks everything is racist that isn't pro-Obama, so it holds a lot less water with me. He's just like the boy who cried wolf.

I also meant to add that until I finally saw the pics upon reading Peter's post, I was expecting to see Obama with a gun after I read Scooter's e-mail.

I'm telling you, it's OVERREACTING! Who cares about the distorted pics. But there are several on that thread who are going through the membership list attributing "RACIST!" to each member belonging. Thank god there are a few sensible comments there but this is just wild.

I said I never go to group pages. Who goes to group pages??? Then there's one on there saying "we" have been aware of this group blah blah blah like there is some committee on who has racial prejudice. And she goes on to talk about all the people who don't use their real names and that the names are alters, they are cowards by hiding behind fake names. What a bunch of crap. What's the deal with alters? People are allowed. Plus she's got alters herself for pete's sake.

Yeah, I don't go to group pages, as a rule, so that's why I hadn't seen it. They take so long to load, in the first place. I read the thread, and its the same old same old, same mold, same mold. I can't even be bothered with that mentality, and I decided to make some other changes too that I had been contemplating for some time anyway.

Thanks You Cathi

L am tired of the cruelty on both sides !

Ditto! It's why I've been staying away from political posts for months. I just about had it during the presidential campaign and shortly after that. Why the heck am I starting now? Oy!

I wouldn't have noted the Colt 45 either. I don't see that it changes much. It may be tacky but it's the same type of garbage that has been used in Juvenial satire since the beginning of time. So why the upset now?

It's all right, Cathi. We're just blowing steam.

Look, I'm having to defend myself on both articles now. I'm not a racist. I have nothing to defend. In my own opinion, the Colt 45 was over the line.

My brother is Republican and he isn't an Obama fan and he is no racist either so I understand that

oh and we don't talk politics that

Cathi, I hope you keep posting, you enlighten me daily!

Thanks, Sue. I just can't stand this type of crap. All this fighting from both sides. And nobody stops to actually LISTEN.

Cathi, I am listening, I was thinking I should get ear plugs LOL

{Oh! Was I yelling? I knew someone was, I just didn't know it was me! Sorry!} LOL!

Billy Dee Williams use to do a commercial for Colt 45. It's widely known that many African-Americans like to drink malt liquer. So advertisers target these products toward blacks. Are they racists?

Sicko

How +=- of you, Jerry.

LOL!

Why are you bringing Michael Moore into this??.......

Bringing Michael Moore into it was my other choice of response, Berf. Thanks.

I repeat - LOL!

Hey, Michael Moore is an interesting man. I want to go check out his new flick.

OMG! I will too. He's just someone who likes to stir things up and make people think. I don't agree with him, but I wouldn't censor him. Even he doesn't agree with Obama. Of course he doesn't agree with anyone. That's why he's famous.

I think he has more honest things to say then most....Sicko realy opened my mind.

See...I am not a big meanie all the time Carol.....

Someone get Cathi some oxygen!

LOL!!! I'm done. No more comments. Phew!

(+=-) is all about balance and truth ... including speaking your mind, telling it like you see it. :-) or :-( , as the case may be.

I'm beginning to like your philosophy, Jerry, because it's so versatile. You seem to be able to spin it a MILLION different ways to make it work for you..."as the case may be," and you can BET on that.

That is the beauty of the truth Sue, just tell it like you see it and as long as you mean it and your intentions are good, all is well ... would you prefer no pain no gain ?

PS ... at least I didn't talk like your buddy: "" John Knight Sep 25, 2009, 10:07pm EDT
Ef you, creep, ""

"You seem to be able to spin it a MILLION different ways to make it work for you..."

"That is the beauty of the truth Sue..."

Oh, okay.

I saw that comment somewhere, and I didn't think he was responding to you, was he?

Does it matter ? It don't to him, so I was just returning the favor of cherry picked quotations, supposedly to show the real character of the person quoted.

You're not going to change my mind about someone's character with one quote out of context, Jerry, so you're not showing me anything with that reference, but trying to slander someone's character with some tit for tat childishness makes me wonder about yours.

Sue, it was just a "favor" being returned to the originator (JK) ... I think you know that also, so don't try to play dumb here, especially when all know that you two are "so close" in so many ways of thought.

PS ... I always suspected deep down inside that "playing" with JK on Gather would escalate one day into what it has, playing with the hogs usually ends up getting ever closer to being a "slime ball" like them ... what goes around comes around ... and I know that ... and that is why I have often attempted to make peace with JK ... but he seems to not want that ... so here we are ... as you say, acting "childish" ... or worse, because we both know better.

All know, huh? Another one of his points is exactly this kind of imaginary, delusional assumption that you and people like you call knowledge. Rational people can't make peace with that kind of mindset, so attempt a different tack or join the UN.

your "polarization" seems to be ever increasing there ...

Okay... all the black people, please step to the rear of the bus. NOW!

And all the white males, please put on your wife beater t-shirts and grab yourself a tall one..

All the pagans, gather round your goddess tree...

Oh... all you Mexicans....______________ fill in the blank.

All you Christians, start a fire and sing Kumbaya.

All you Muslims, do whatever it is you do.

Obama, step outside and have a smoke.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...

Oh, and all the women... get back in the kitchen where you belong...

:)

I just WUV my MC!

Cathi, thanks for reminding me. I want to be an equal opportunity jerk.

I forgot the gay people. Please return to your closets immediately.

as for the kitchen.....um, where's that?

Hey! I like that comment!

I like it, too ! Spunky !

lmao! Good on you M C! Hugs

misty, if that icon is you, I'd love to be gay with you ... just thinkin' out-loud. :-) with Scooter's (who ever he is) permission of course.

I could change just for you ... :-)

Oh, and Carol, you freakin' Republican, Christian, conservative 'nut job'.

Congrats on all the page views !! GREAT JOB!

You brought 'em ALL out of the woodwork... including ME>

What the heck were you doing in the woodwork, dear? That's GOT to be uncomfortable. Oh, no, we're not talking closet here, are we?

aha, see I have them hidden in my walls...and tonight I am letting them all out...

btw...nah nah Cathi

Come here, Nellie. Let me slip you some tongue!

pant pant...

You people skeer me.... really skeer me...

Leaving now... trembling with fear !...

shaking like a leaf....

Dead and Loving is my hic "friend" and she's skeering me.

I think Scooter's funnier'n hell most of the time, and the other times, I still chuckle.

Here's a new product for everyone ! https://www.chiaobama.com/flare/next

What? Only one pose? There used to be two!

The only objection I have to Scooter's posts is that he writes outrageous lies and then only allows "friends" to comment. If Scooter is whining about freedom of speech, he should allow everyone comment, then his complaint might hold some water.

Scooter's definitely 'outrageous ..

Baby, it's satire! Get a grip. we all know it's satire! calm down!

Maybe he doesn't have time to read all your hate mail!

If it's satire, how come everyone cannot comment?

From the urban dictionary:

he art of sarcasm typically directed from events that take place in the world. Much like a caricature of the human race. Usually it is done through comedy, but sometimes it is just as serious as the event itself. South Park is know for its satirical episodes. The Terry Schiavo case being one that sticks out.
Someone: "Did you see the South Park episode about the people coming back from the future and taking all the jobs away from the citizens because they worked for much less?"

Somebody: "Yes, it was chock full of satire about people complaining of immigrants and outsourcing."

It would seem that you people who are shouting, "satire" don't know what satire is.

Btw, that is true of those who made those pics of Bush as well.

I don't think Scooter should be censored. People like him (or her) should be allowed to express their deluded ideas freely. How else can others realize that they're truly nuts?

Like others I find his "friends only" comment policy silly.

That has always been my stand on censorship, Nippy. It's why I never flag the hateful posts of your pals. Let it all hang out is my motto.

Yeah! Transparency for all!

WOW! I have said once and I will say it again...what is this world coming to?!?!?

Scooter Van Nueter, the guy who censors his posts so NOBODY can criticize him? What a sick individual screaming censorship when he does it ALL THE TIME.

What a SHAMELESS hypocrite!!!

But he is soooo funny with the satire!