Iraq wants the U.S. military OUT OUT OUT

Why are we there, anyway? What the latest reason? Is there even one. Do they even bother to make up reasons anymore?

Oh, I know, "We won't leave till we win. Rah rah the good ole U.S. of A !!!"

You're welcome, Iraq. If they want us out that bad, I say let's pull out immediately...and let them deal with their own problems by themselves. They'll be singing a different tune when they realize no other country is willing to step in and help them out. Oops, to late...we already went home. You're on your own, baby! Deal with it.

We should take everything with us, including all military aid, weapons,monies, buildings , anything and everything that we as tax payers paid for.

Then send them a bill for all materials that we can never get back.

I agree with everyone who has commented!

Just like vietnam Iraq is a completer failure and we have lost too much there.

i think many are ready for this war to be over with!!

"They never asked us to come there in the first place.

We should have never invaded a sovereign country in the first place for the ridiculous reasons that we did."

I agree with that

Taking their oil would be illegal - it would be "stealing" - so why not.

They took our money and the lives of many of our brightest and bravest, why shouldn't we get paid with some oil.

If you're going to declare war on a nation you might as well steal something from it - for crying out loud. Otherwise, what a waste of war.

(stamps foot)

Yeah, after starting a war with a country - before leaving in a snit fit because we can't win - steal anything you can. Then we'll feel better about it.

Hoorah (3 X) !!!

And there's some treasures there we could cart off for the Smithsonian. "Spoils of War". Put in the Bush Room.

Hoorah (3X) !!!

What the hell . . . .? Who do they think THEY are trying to run our...ummm...their country already? It's like letting your 3 yr. old start the bar-b-q with propane and a match...NOT happening. You know...for THEIR own good. Besides . . . we need those 14 bases for our Iran Adventure . . . and they owe us for giving them freedom and all that out of our hearty heart of goody goodiness. Indian givers . . . Ooooh . . . look . . . there's India! Ahhh, never mind...no oil.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

OOOPS we typed at the same time again.

Ha ha Doyle (sighing 6 times)

I hope you're not looking at your nails right now.

I'm wearing socks

black

I'm just amazed that someone might come to this article to say this or that about Iraq and will see it's really a chat about my socks.

Somebody told me Bush wants to build an oil pipeline from Iraq to the U.S.
Can that be done?

Funny ... how politics happens every day. But then so does socks.

And black socks match black jeans real good !!!

Sadam kept things under control until we invaded. He kept Iran in check (and we even aided him in his wars with Iran.) He also kept the terrorists in check. He would not only send a terrorist to the firing squad, but the entire terrorist's family. They feared him. Sure, he was a tyrant, but so are many, many other leaders. It was Sadam's misfortune to be the target of a Bush-Cheney vendetta.

Somebody told me Bush wants to build an oil pipeline from Iraq to the U.S.
Can that be done?
Jerry P., Jul 8, 2008, 4:52p

Only if they can build one that floats...

Boo, Donald S. Too serious.
ann c., Jul 8, 2008, 5:08pm EDT

Booo, Ann C. is too wacky.

Do we miss Sadam yet?

How do you know I'm wacky? You don't know me well enough to call me "wacky".
ann c., Jul 8, 2008, 5:21pm EDT

...and do you know me well enough to call me serious?

Do we miss Sadam yet?
Peter Joseph Swanson, Jul 8, 2008, 5:25pm EDT

Bush could certainly use him right now to get Iran back under control.

good article

I'm with Ann - why on earth are we not pillaging and all. That is exactly what is wrong with this country.

No, I was being sarcastic were you?
ann c., Jul 8, 2008, 6:05pm EDT

Nope. just being a little wacky.

Then send them a bill for all materials that we can never get back.

I say the opposite. We should get out and pay restitution until they have rebuilt what we destroyed.

All I have to say is you and the rest of the USA both!

I haven't heard this report from a reliable source yet, but if it's true, and this clown is speaking on behalf of the Iraqi government, then we should pull out. Sure, Iran and Syria would move right in and take over the country and displace the Iraqi government. Most of the Iraqi men would be killed, and most of the women would be raped. If this report is true, it's still a sound-bite. I'd like to see the entire statement to see if it is being taken out of context. Iraq is not capable of defending themselves right now. They would be fools to ask us to leave. They should be paying us to stay.

Sandy.

I disagree with your, "We should get out and pay restitution until they have rebuilt what we destroyed." That will just allow corrupt Iraqi politicians to continue procrastinating on rebuilding and to pocket more of our money along with the money from oil that I suspect that many of them are already pocketing. It is not like the Iraqi government has no source of income and I for one would want to know what they have done with the money they already before giving them any more.

"Sadam kept things under control until we invaded. He kept Iran in check (and we even aided him in his wars with Iran.) He also kept the terrorists in check. He would not only send a terrorist to the firing squad, but the entire terrorist's family. They feared him. Sure, he was a tyrant, but so are many, many other leaders. It was Sadam's misfortune to be the target of a Bush-Cheney vendetta."
Donald S

Yes, but according to Bush we are so much safer now that Al Qaida is all over Iraq, and rallying to their cause, and making gains in Afganistan, and Osama bin Laden is still sending us love letters every once in a while. Hurrah for Bush!

Oh, Donald are you wacky like me?
ann c., Jul 9, 2008, 10:55am EDT

Yep. And maybe even moreso.

Sandy. I disagree with your, "We should get out and pay restitution until they have rebuilt what we destroyed." That will just allow corrupt Iraqi politicians to continue procrastinating on rebuilding and to pocket more of our money along with the money from oil that I suspect that many of them are already pocketing. It is not like the Iraqi government has no source of income and I for one would want to know what they have done with the money they already before giving them any more.

Carol, what they want is to have OPEN, FAIR, MONITORED, elections and get rid of the ones we helped our implanted Bush to implant there for them. Why should we force them to remain under the war of our corrupt government and begrudge allowing them to choose their own? That isn't very friendly. I am suggesting that we return to them their "source of income" as well as repair what we have destroyed. Do you think if someone comes into your home and destroys everything in it, it's okay for them to walk out and say, "You have a job, so fix it?"

Do we miss Saddam yet? The Iraqis do.

Sandy, please enlighten those of us who are not as well informed as you by giving us some specific example of things which we have destroyed and not yet rebuilt. Give me a specific location, like a map grid or the city and an exact description of where you are talking about in that city. You can get a technical description of the location you are referring to on Google Earth. As a person who periodically goes to Iraq, I'm obviously out of the loop since what I've seen with my eyes is America spending money to fix Iraq until they got to the point of struggling to find new projects. But, you are obviously more of an authority on the topic than I am, so please share you information. I still have friends all over Iraq, and if you can give me a specific enough location and your source, I will contact friends in that area and have them see if your information is true. If it is true, they will pass the word on to the local Civil Affairs team who will quickly resolve the issue. But, if I don't know about it, and my friends don't know about it, and the Civil Affairs teams don't know about it, and the Iraqi government representatives don't know about it, and the American Commanders don't know about it, I highly doubt that you know of any examples for the misinformation you put out.

I tried to find a reliable source to verify that what this article claims it true. I had no luck. There are rumors out there, but this isn't something that has been released on video which would show this clown making the statements described. And, I can't find any report of a reporter claiming to have heard the statement themselves. I can't even find any report of a reporter saying exactly which source heard the statement. When Mitt Romney was asked about it, he said he has no reason to believe the rumor is true yet, but he added if it is ever verified that he would be willing to respond to the comment. But, until then, this is all liberal hype and only those of you who are anxious for bad news from Iraq will accept it as fact. This is how rumors get started, someone hears a little bit about something, then they repeat it, and someone else hears it, then eventually people start posting articles on the internet which declare the information to be factual. But I guess if there weren't people out there so anxious to believe stories like this, then we wouldn't have a Democratic party.

How much money went to Halliburton and the sub-contractors? Anyone?

Ron, it was a lot. Way more than it should have been. There was a time when they were getting $90 for each bag of laundry, and if a laundry bag was turned in stuffed full the contractors made the troops split it into two bags before they would accept it. That's just one example of the abuses. But, I bet if you were to figure out how much it would cost to have soldiers and marines do the same job, you'd find that it is cheaper to use civilians to do a lot of work traditionally done by troops.

Maxwell, much as I would like to enlighten those of you who would rather do something as silly as ask me to provide grids and maps and school names, I'll just let you claim all the foolish on this thread. Obviously, you don't know how to respond to my comment. You could just say so.

We should leave tomorrow.

yeah

Sandy, if you are going to make random claims which I have reason to believe are false, it is not unreasonable for me to challenge you to provide specific examples. That seems a lot more open minded of me than just to say you are lying and flat wrong, or a "fool" as you so casually toss out. If you have some new information to bring to the table, then I'm open to reviewing your information. Don't expect someone like me to believe some random statement from some random person like yourself just because you posted it on gather. You could tell me that earth will fall out of orbit around the sun tomorrow, but I'm not going to believe you. If you say frivolous things, expect to be challenged. You got called out, and you weren't able to produce support for your claim. Enough said!

Tony, maybe more people would answer your questions if you wrote more intelligently. Try proof reading. I think I know what you're trying to ask, but you slip so many cheap shots in which are off topic that it makes your comments seem like you are almost incoherent. And, not everyone gets online every day. If you ask a question, don't take a lack of response within 12 hours to mean that no one can answer you. The fact that you jumped to such an illogical conclusion is evidence of your state of mind...key word being "illogical".

Tony, let me take this opportunity to teach you a very simple communication lesson. Whatever question it was that you were trying to ask, ask it again without any of the crap you mixed in with it. Do not include your opinions in the question, and avoid insults at all costs. Just a clean, simple question. If you can do that, I will answer your question as a reward to you even though you obviously aren't worth my time.

Iraq is a sovereign nation. If they tell us to leave, we will leave. I don't have a problem with that, though I am sure it would be a huge mistake. They need us there to provide security, help build infrastructure and kill extremists.

Moonbats on the other hand have always wanted to cut and run.

"The fact that you jumped to such an illogical conclusion is evidence of your state of mind"

I have no doubt that Tony partakes in numerous drugs, some on a daily basis.

"What did Iraq do to the United States, its people and its freedoms?"

This will be a waste of my time to try and convince you, but here goes:

Iraq Resolution

1. Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, including interference with weapons inspectors.

2. Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region.

3. Iraq's brutal repression of its civilian population.

4. Iraq's capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people.

5. Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the alleged 1993 assassination attempt of former President George H. W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.

6. Members of al-Qaeda were known to be in Iraq.

7. Iraq's continuing to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including anti-United States terrorist organizations.

8. The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, including the September 11th, 2001 terrorists and those who aided or harbored them.

9. The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.

10. Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.

Those are just some of the reasons.

I can't tell you how happy it makes me knowing that we don't ever have to deal with Saddam again. He's gone. Democracy has a chance in the Middle East and America has once again been the major catalyst in promoting democracy in the world.

Tony, I'm sure that was very hard for you, and even though you added in some other crap you did manage to isolate your question. As a reward for your good behavior, I will answer it.

--What did Iraq and its people do to the United States, its people and *especially* our freedoms?

Iraq and the people of Iraq did not successfully do anything to the people of the United States yet, and did not do anything to our freedoms yet. If I was narrow minded, I would end my answer there, even though I would never be foolish enough to ask myself such a limited question. That being said, Saddam Hussein did challenge America’s credibility and if things went his way our credibility would have been severely damaged. America has historically shown a willingness to resolve international issues diplomatically. For diplomatic relations to work, America must maintain our credibility. If our government makes an agreement with the government of another country, then both countries are expected to uphold that agreement. When America kicked Iraq out of Kuwait, America could have easily conquered Iraq to eliminate the future threat of attack from Iraq back into Kuwait. Instead, America chose diplomacy with Iraq and accepted Conditional Terms of Surrender from Iraq instead of war even though by invading Kuwait Iraq had already committed an act of war which would have justified that counter invasion. One of those conditions which the Iraqi government agreed to was “no fly zones” where Iraq could not set up radar or air defense. Also, they could not fly any aircraft in those zones. The Iraqi government decided to test America’s credibility by establishing radar and surface-to-air missiles within those zones. Shortly afterwards, American missiles destroyed those sites. Iraq also decided to defiantly fly military aircraft within those zones after agreeing not to, which were quickly destroyed by American missiles. Another one of those conditions was that UN Weapons Inspectors would have unlimited access to all areas of Iraq at any time they chose. The Iraqis toyed with the Weapons Inspectors and used their military to forcefully limit their movement in an effort to assure the UN had no ability to track the weapons. Remember, there is no debate about whether or not Iraq had Chemical Weapons at that time since they had used them against their own people on several occasions in the past, and SCUD missiles fired at US Troops still had traces of nerve gas residue inside the debris. The only debate is what happened to the weapons they had, and when America invaded in 2003, did Iraq still have their chemical weapons. By not allowing the Weapons Inspectors free access any time and any place as promised, they were in violation of their Terms of Surrender. If we had not attacked them while they arrogantly called our bluff, all diplomatic agreements in the future, especially future Terms of Surrender, would be meaningless. The message to the world would have been, “if America is ready to use military force against you, play along with their rules for a few years, then brush them off and do what you want.” By attacking Iraq and displacing their government, we made an example of them. Now any time America goes to another nation with diplomacy instead of war, that government will know that the agreement made shall be honored. America has shown that we will not tolerate violations of Terms of Surrender. For these same reasons, the United Nations will never again have any power in diplomacy until they prove that they are willing and able to follow through on their threats.

Now, I have a related question for you: After Japan surrendered in WWII and an American occupation force peacefully moved into Japanese territory, if Japan has risen up and launched military attacks against those troops, or attempted to forcefully limit their movement, do you think it would have been more appropriate for America to launch another full scale retaliation against Japan or to withdraw the occupation force? Or something in between?

Don, excellent examples. I'm sure Tony has been exposed to those facts before but chose to ignore them and wash them out of his mind since they did not support his pre-determined decision that anything related to a Republican’s decision is automatically wrong.

Thanks, I have a feeling Tony won't be responding. The thing about WMD's in Saddam's case was that even if none were found, how hard would it have been for him to re-arm with his billions from the 'food for oil' program? Any fool knows that Saddam could not be trusted and in a post 911 world, we needed to do something drastic in the Middle East. Thank God we had Bush in power in not Al Gore.

Tony, did you fail to read my entire comment? I put that line in there just to make fun of you and the way that you will see many facts and then very selectively choose the ones you like and ignore the rest. Isn't it ironic that you actually took that bait and demonstrated your fact selection process? When I said, "If I was narrow minded, I would end my answer there, even though I would never be foolish enough to ask myself such a limited question" I was going to add "LIKE YOU" but I decided to leave the cheap shot out. It's just great that you pointed out that you are like that without me needing to point it out. You are a fool Tony, and I hope you and the other fools in the world realize that before they elect the anti-Christ as President of the United States of America.

Tony, once again you just wrote a whole lot of nothing. I answered your question and enlightened you and instead of an intelligent reply, you just wrote a bunch of babble. I'm starting to think you are a hard core Republican who pretends to be a Democrat just to make Democrats look more stupid than they really are.

Tony, am I making you angry? hahahahaha. You're so dumb. Why don't you try to write a comment that says something at least remotely intelligent? hahaha. Or just write another angry comment like the fool you are. HAHAHAHAHA!!

Tony, you can't be that dumb. Why don't you say something other than angry comments? You just make a complete fool of yourself every time you type.

Tony, what is too "white" for you? Why are you writing about yourself in third person?

You are such a miserable soul. I feel sorry for losers like you. Do you have anything relevant to write about, or just name calling and empty accusations? Loser.

Iraq War Deaths Continue


Note how the controlled right wing media ignores it.

And still no word from the Republicans as to how they plan on paying for their war.