Wow. Something tells me the bush crime family is going to need an underground railroad to escape justce in the coming years. It remains quite doubtful that the cowardly, irresponsible congress will muster the testicular fortitude to hold these filthy beasts accountable for their crimes, but, thankfully, there are those who DO have the courage and the sense of American patriotism to do the only right thing.
I must admit that I'm no fan of the death penalty, and would likely not support it even for these demons, especially since, imo, the finest punishment that could be doled out for what they've done would be to lock them away forever, to live the rest of their miserable lives in 4x8 cells, only seeing the light of day for 1 hour per day, if that. Death would be freedom. They do not deserve such a luxury.
Anyhoo, the wheels of justice do indeed turn slowly at times, but at least they're beginning to turn. Let's hope and pray that they grind every one of these filthy corrupt warmongers up and set a precendent for all future American presidential administrations, and for the entire world community.
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Thanks for the link.
How so? They're not talking about impeachment. They're talking about war crimes trials AFTER this monstrous disaster of a presidency is finally over.
Jeff, do you have no pride? How can you type something this dishonest and live with yourself? NOBODY? Nobody has named the war crimes? Why would you say that?
One charge with anything that resembles a fact. That's all I ask.
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq
Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression
Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War
Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States
Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression
Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114
Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.
Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter
Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor
Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes
Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq
Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources
Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries
Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency
Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq
Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors
Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives
Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy
Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to " Black Sites" Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture
Article XX
Imprisoning Children
Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government
Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws
Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act
Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment
Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens
Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements
Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply
Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice
Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965
Article XXX
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare
Article XXXI
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency
Article XXXII
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change
Article XXXIII
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.
Article XXXIV
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001
Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders
I asked for one war crime with facts and you are listing every bumper sticker sloagan the moonbats bow to the alter of. For God's sake, impeachment for Global Warming? This is why the left isn't taken seriously.
This is the articles of impeachment, fool. Way to not pay attention.
You wingnuts have a REALLY hard time gathering and assimilating facts, don't you? Here you go then, sweetums...
Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/04/14/BL2008041401428.html
Torture is a war crime. Bush authorized it. Case closed.
Here was my entire quote jackass.
""" asked for one war crime with facts and you are listing every bumper sticker slogan the moonbats bow to the alter of. For God's sake, impeachment for Global Warming? This is why the left isn't taken seriously."""
As you can see I knew it was articles of impeachment but apparently your followers don't pay attention to the question I asked.
As far as charging Bush for war crimes based on authorizing torture, the only connection made to Bush as far as torture goes was his admission that he sat in on meetings with the CIA and it was determined that water boarding was a approved interrogation technique that didn't constitute torture. The Justice Department agreed. I for one personally don't think water boarding is torture. It's good to know that people like you are looking out for the comfort and constitutional rights of the man who orchestrated the 9-11 attacks though. Their right to remain silent is important to them.
I saw your comment, jackass, which is why I pointed out that those were the article of impeachment that you were calling bumper sticker slogans for moonbats.
"As you can see I knew it was articles of impeachment "
How would one see that when you called them bumper sticker slogans for moonbats?
"As far as charging Bush for war crimes based on authorizing torture, the only connection made to Bush as far as torture goes was his admission that he sat in on meetings with the CIA"
He admitted to approving the techniques, which are absolutely torture, by definition. We cannot go by the DOJ in this case, because they too, approved the torture methods, and invented absurd rationales for justifying their use.
"I for one personally don't think water boarding is torture."
You, for one, are incorrect. Water boarding IS torture. Even your boy McCain has said so.
Btw, waterboarding was not the ONLY torture technique approved by your illegal pretendident.
"It's good to know that people like you are looking out for the comfort and constitutional rights of the man who orchestrated the 9-11 attacks "
The vast majority of detainees are guilty of nothing but being handed to US soldiers by those who sought reward cash. It's good to know that people like you are all for illegal torture tactics for people who've done nothing wrong, except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Btw, how many of those alleged 9/11 terrorists have been brought to justice using your wonderful torture techniques?
For somebody who has a stereotypical slogan or nickname for every conservative and politician you disagree with, I never would have guessed you would get anal and cry when I played your game. Just don't take your ball and go home sport.
""""You, for one, are incorrect. Water boarding IS torture. Even your boy McCain has said so. """""
Who's McCain? Did you mean the mythical creature formerly know as McSame?
"""Btw, waterboarding was not the ONLY torture technique approved by your illegal pretendident. """""
Of course not.
""""Btw, how many of those alleged 9/11 terrorists have been brought to justice using your wonderful torture techniques?""""
Its all in the post I linked which you must not have completely read. since you said :
""""Even the CIA admits that it's torture! Torture is a war crime, Bush authorized it. Case closed! Bring on the war crimes tribunals!""""
The article was about an ex-CIA agents opinion on waterboarding and he agrees with you and McCain. The debate continues.
If you read the article in it's entirety he explains that the Geneva conventions regard waterboarding as torture. But if you also do the unthinkable and read the Geneva conventions, the rules apply only to uniformed officers captured in battle. Since War crimes are defined by the Geneva conventions.....
In WW2, captured nonuniformed agents were executed by America. That and Japanese Americans were held in a prison camp. You ask why Bush deviated from American precedent? No war crimes were committed.
Case closed. You lost. Sorry. Time to move on. You asked for proof of one war crime being committed. I provided it for you. No sense being a pissy little baby about it. You HAD to know that I wasn't going to toss out bullshit that couldn't be backed up, didn't you?
Just take this as a lesson learned. You've been schooled. Your boy DID commit war crimes for which he may very well face accountability at some point in his miserable life. The next time somebody points out that some pro-America group is launching a suit or investigating a criminal case against your boyfriend, perhaps you won't go into the discussion so poorly armed.
If there is one thing I do NOT agree with on the Democrats approach, it is trying to let the Bush Crime family off the hook for all that they did!
Impeach Nancy Pelosi!
Somewhere along the line I think she must be on the RNC payroll!
Impeach Bush Cheney and a few others!
Try Bush Cheney and others for war crimes!
Barak Obama for President '08!
Case closed!
JP
Actually I am waiting for the day you stop.
""""Just take this as a lesson learned. You've been schooled. Your boy DID commit war crimes for which he may very well face accountability at some point in his miserable life. """"
OK OK take your ball and go home then. I suppose in all reality history will show which one of us was schooled. I admit that a wide eyed law professor armed with a bunch of misguided 19 year olds and kook conspiracy theories can be quite a formidable force to be reckoned with, especially with you cheerleading them, but cooler heads always seem to prevail.
""""The next time somebody points out that some pro-America group is launching a suit or investigating a criminal case against your boyfriend, perhaps you won't go into the discussion so poorly armed.""""
If you are actually beating your chest and claiming some sort of victory could you pour me a cup of that koolaid. Must be some pretty good stuff.
My only point was that hating Bush isn't enough to charge him with a crime. I asked for evidence of war crimes and you lead me to an article that debated whether or not waterboarding is torture. According to the Geneva conventions, terrorists aren't protected. You in no way showed any evidence that Bush committed a war crime.
Stop not tossing bullshit around? I would have to become a republican in order to stop not tossing bullshit around, and that's something that I simply could never do. I detest bullshit, and cannot tolerate it. Republicans DEPEND upon it for their very political survival.
"I asked for evidence of war crimes and you lead me to an article that debated whether or not waterboarding is torture. "
I led you to the PROOF that you'd asked for, but, of course, since you're a delusional wingnut, you're allergic to proof, so you've chosen to offer cheap, sorry spin instead of admitting that there IS a case there.
As I said before, the case is closed. You asked for proof, it was provided. I cannot FORCE you to accept reality. If I've learned anything at all in hitting these political message boards, it is that delusional bush worshippers are simply immune to reality.
"You in no way showed any evidence that Bush committed a war crime. "
Alrighty, then. You run with that one, if it makes you feel better. Everybody else can clearly see reality, however. You just keep on living in that bubble o' delusion.
JP
But the GOP attitude? - - - You made your bed, now lie in it. (without ANY considerations for why you might be in that dilemma, and all the while passing legislation making it harder and harder for you to survive and easier and easier for wealthy people to take advantage of you.
I don't think Nancy Pelosi got the memo. In other words the case hasn't even been opened yet so it's far from closed. I am not a Bush worshipper either the guy is a dim wit. The only reason why he won 2 terms is because of the stiffs running against him. Oh wait I forgot.......the two terms were "stolen". Drink up bud.
WTF does this have to do with a law school putting together a war crimes case against booshie boy, fool? You simply CAN NOT stay on topic, can you?
Btw idiot, there has never been any issue with Deism in this country, except by a tiny handful of athiests. Since the conception of the founding of this nation, political leaders have been acknowledging and paying tribute to a higher power. The issue has NEVER been Deism. It's been "Christianity." If you don't know the difference, find a different subject to talk about.
That's pretty funny, since it's YOU that cannot stay on topic on any thread that you enter a comment on.
"Every time there is an article that is negative torward Obama you feel it necessary to ignore the topic and start bitching about Mccain and the GOP."
You're a liar. But then, I've already established that, haven't I?
"So I figured I'd make posts that have nothing to do with the topics of your bullshit articles. "
This is your modus operandi, as anyone who's seen your dumbass comments knows all too well. You're a pathetic loser. But then, you know doubt are painfully aware of that already.