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by Warren Adler
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February 7, 2007

The Legacy of George W. Bush

June 19, 2008 05:27 PM EDT (Updated: June 19, 2008 05:40 PM EDT)
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So I am sitting here in my comfortable little writing study high above the bustle of Manhattan's East Side contemplating, of all things, the legacy of President George W. Bush. In a brief few months he will be gone from the public stage and with his absence the vitriol, the adrenaline charged criticism, the often rabid animosity of most of the people in my social world will slowly diminish, and the memory of "W" will slowly dissolve like a lump of sugar in the liquidity of history.

I have channeled my reflections to be sober and neutral, free of bias and contemporary judgments, forcing a kind of emotional absence as I travel forward in time to say fifty or more years from now when all the smoke has cleared and George Bush's exploits as our President have been exposed to the surgical ministrations of historians. It will not be enough time for a complete closure, for historians are a cunning lot and will continue to dig and dig to unearth the yet unfound discovery, the unknown kernel of a lost moment that will shed some new light on the strange, explosive and challenging eight years of the Bush Presidency.

To many, such speculations about the future have little value. But to those who value history as a harbinger of the future and who care about the fate of our progeny, such an exercise just might contribute to our collective wisdom.

What I am searching for is the one descriptive image, the log line, the quintessential essence of language that might best describe the narrative of the Bush Presidential reign say fifty or a hundred years from now. Since there is no way of knowing whether my prognostication will be right or wrong, I will have the freedom to fantasize and bring to bear the humble tools I possess, the experiences of a long life in present time and an acquired and somewhat incomplete knowledge of American history.

Bear with me on this mental tour.

When I was in the Pentagon as the Washington Correspondent for the Armed Forces Press Service during the Korean War in 1952, the prevailing opinion about President Harry Truman was exceedingly negative. At one point he had an approval rating of 22% and a disapproval rating of 62%. Although I was merely an Army Private in rank, I was able to circulate among the General staff and the large cadre of Colonels and civilians that were assigned to the headquarters of the various services.

To many of them, as well as in our social circle outside the Pentagon, Truman was characterized as a bungler, a fool, an inarticulate ingrate, a haberdasher way out of his depth who was ruining the country. He had fired MacArthur, tried to nationalize the steel industry and inflation was rampant. But his single most perceived egregious mistake was to get us into the Korean War, which had brought in China on the side of the North Koreans and, to many, had become a quagmire. Combat deaths were approaching the 50,000 mark. The Republicans were on his case, and there was a steady anti-Truman drumbeat in the Press. Change was in the air, palpable and inevitable.

Never mind that he had saved lives and ended World War II by ordering the use of the atomic bomb. Never mind that he had saved Europe by instituting the Marshall Plan. The end of Harry Truman's administration couldn't be fast enough for most Americans. The Democrats pinned their hopes on their elegant and eloquent egghead-like candidate Adlai Stevenson. The Republicans chose General Eisenhower whose main campaign promise was to end the Korean War, which he did in a stalemate which has resulted in the continued presence of a large contingence of American troops.

Today Harry Truman is a much revered ex-President, beloved by most living Americans and remembered as someone who marched to his own drummer, ended World War II, saved Europe and drew the line against the communist attempt to take over most of the globe. The Korean War, which cost 55,000 American lives, is a mere footnote in the Truman legacy.

A simple log line might be: He drew a line in the sand against communist tyranny, ended the war and saved Europe.

While I make no claim to be an expert historian, my work as a novelist has given me, arguably, some special insight into the human condition and the process by which we are manipulated to believe in the way the past is viewed by those who came later, long after the smoke of contemporary reality has cleared.

Take Abraham Lincoln as an example. He is revered as the great emancipator, the President who saved the union and his memory is preserved in a giant shrine of awesome proportions on the banks of the Potomac. It is literally impossible for most of my generation, including myself, to conceive that Lincoln was a hated figure among Southern Americans and many Northerners for presiding over a war that was responsible for the deaths of more than 620,000 Americans. There may even be relics of the past, people who still believe that he was the devil incarnate. Think of how many Americans might have said after his assassination: "Good riddance."

Nevertheless his legacy, his log line, now and forever, will always be: He kept the Union intact.

Then there was George Washington, my all time hands down favorite American President whose courage and wisdom was the essential ingredient that insured the birth of our nation. Think of how many then citizens of the colonies hated the idea of severing their relations with their mother country. In the Tory press, published in America and in Britain, he was characterized as a rebel, a traitor, an evil man. Indeed, he was roundly criticized as a military leader, losing most of the battles of the war. Many of his men deserted, but he was steadfast, stubborn and committed. By dedication and sheer force of personality, he eventually made all his enemies stand down and, in his lifetime, became the most popular man in America and the only man who was the unanimous choice for the first Presidency.

But by the time his Presidency was coming to an end, he was beginning to face numerous critics. A number of historians cite Thomas Jefferson as intriguing against Washington to satisfy his own political ambitions and to thwart his arch enemy Alexander Hamilton. Today those bitter feuds and others have disappeared into the dust of history. Washington's legacy is untarnished and unassailable, and those bitter criticisms that plagued his career are all but forgotten.

Unfortunately, the glorious legacy of George Washington is in danger of extinction as the generations pass and the teaching of American history is ignored in our school system. There are, of course, efforts to revive the legacy of our founding fathers, and despite recent efforts to popularize these early events in our national birth pangs through popular books and television, the effort is facing difficult odds against the rising ignorance of our upcoming generations.

There are literally thousands of monuments to George Washington, cities, schools, and other entities named after him including our nation's capital. As a log line for Washington, one choice among many might be: He was the indispensable founding father of our country.

Jefferson, by the way, whose monument on the banks of the Potomac is yet another impressive shrine, will forever be remembered as the composer of the Declaration of Independence and the President who engineered the Louisiana Purchase, which vastly increased the size of our country. Still, there is a persistent dark side that mars his image and corrupts any narrative of his Presidency, his relationship with teenager Sally Hemings, which some describe as pedophilia, impregnating her numerous times and the fact that he never did free his 2oo slaves. Let's stick with his log line Composer of the Declaration of Independence and negotiator of the Louisiana Purchase.

Then there is the case of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who died at the beginning of his fourth term in office and somehow seems to be declining in Presidential importance. Despite having led us through the vicissitudes of World War II, although he was cheated out of living to enjoy the victory, the primary achievement of his administration seems to rest on his ending the Great Depression and the soaring words of his famous speech: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." I suppose if we were to come up with a log line it might be: He ended the Great Depression.

John Kennedy, of course, will always be remembered as the young, dashing President with the beautiful wife who was gunned down by a very troubled loner. The disastrous Bay of Pigs fiasco will probably long be forgotten, but his memory will always be suffused in a glow of romanticism and his administration characterized as a kind of Camelot on the Potomac with few memorable achievements, although the beginnings of the Vietnam War can be traced to his administration.

Lyndon Johnson's vast expansion of the disastrous Vietnam War, which resulted in nearly 60,000 American deaths and more than 150,00o wounded, will eventually lose the traction of memory in the fullness of time, but his accomplishments in the field of civil rights will, in my opinion, ultimately define his administration. His log line might be: He was instrumental in improving America's civil rights.

Richard Nixon generated visceral hatred by some of the electorate and was eventually disgraced by the Watergate scandals which caused his resignation. He brought an end to the Vietnam War and created a peace that ended in a resounding failure and humiliation for America, but it will be his opening up of a dialogue with China which has become his log line. He opened up China.

Ronald Reagan's log line is an obvious choice: He brought down the Soviet Union. Some might carp at such a broad characterization, but then we are talking about how history will portray him, years in the future.

And how are we to cite how people of the future will mark the Presidential achievements of William Jefferson Clinton? Aside from the Monica Lewinsky scandal and his impeachment, what log line would best characterize his Presidency despite the fact that he did achieve a monumental change in the welfare system and balanced the budget? But we are dealing here with legacy, some lasting description that will persist into the future. Is He kept the peace and balanced the budget accurate or inspiring enough for our offspring years hence?

So it goes. Grant was a great national hero when he ascended to the Presidency, and he left it a scandal ridden mess and might have been lost to any favorable memory if he had not written that outstanding autobiography. One would be hard put to think of a proper log line to mark his Presidency. How about: He created the Civil Service.

Presidential scholars who deal in such things could undoubtedly expand this cursory list, which I cite to make my main point after having wrestled with the original proposition in the Ivory Tower isolation of my study.

Fast forward to today and George W. Bush is suffering the same contemporary fate as Harry Truman. His ratings are the pits. In my circle, the very mention of his name makes people vibrate with disgust. He will leave office with a deep sigh of relief from most Americans.

Our great grandchildren will be reading what the historians of their day will offer, providing they are interested or care about such things. The raw hate and enmity will have long disappeared, and one can only speculate if there will be any institutions at all named after Mr. Bush. He will undoubtedly have a library, although one cannot fail to wonder about whether these self motivated Presidential Libraries will survive as individual entities into the next millennium. Perhaps school children will barely remember his name and, as most present day pundits aver, he will be dubbed the worst President in history.

At last the "eureka" moment did arrive. Mr. Bush's log line emerged from the mud of my cogitations. I have expectations of being pilloried by my contemporaries for my choice, but I stand by it with the single exception of some nasty event occurring in the declining months of Mr. Bush's term. Here is the log line:

After the worst attack on American soil in history, he kept us safe.

Fire away.
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Comments: 113

Barbara B. Jun 19, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
"After the worst attack on American soil in history, he kept us safe."

Exactly right. I think he'll go down in history as one of the great presidents or our time. I truly admire his courage.
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Warren Adler Jun 19, 2008, 5:33pm EDT
Thanks for your opinion, Barbara.
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Maurice K. Jun 19, 2008, 5:48pm EDT
Perhaps you are right. It's sort of hard to know how history will look at him right now. Once a few years have elapsed, the public will see everything through very different eyes than they do today.
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Shirley ♡ ☮ M. Jun 19, 2008, 5:52pm EDT
I always said that President Bush will go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents of his time. There is no perfect President and never will there be.
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Sharon P. Jun 19, 2008, 5:54pm EDT
But at what price, but then, the future won't remember that. Thanks Warren, did you ever think of becoming a history professor in your old age (tongue in cheek of course.)
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Juan J Martinez Jun 19, 2008, 5:54pm EDT
My image of Bush will always be his panic, deer caught in the headlights look, that got when they whispered in his ear and let him know of the attack on the towers. He didn't what to do, to either get up and rush out or just stay sitting, he choose to stay sitting. That is what my image of Bush will always be.
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Juan J Martinez Jun 19, 2008, 5:56pm EDT
Bush came in, and we had a balanced budget and the economy was good. He leaves with us having the biggest deficit in history and the country bogged down in a war that will never be won and if McBush had his way, we will be there for a 100 years.
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Ashley P. Jun 19, 2008, 5:58pm EDT
Interesting content. It will definitely be in the books.
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Erica Hidvegi Jun 19, 2008, 6:27pm EDT
When you said, "slowly dissolve like a lump of sugar in the liquidity of history", I wondered when he has ever been considered sweet enough as sugar, don't you sort of mean the "W" will eventually weasle itself out of public attention and embarassment? therefore giving our cognitive constructs a serious break from the b.s. already . . .
ha ha Great article !
D,R, IND?nope
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Jan S. Jun 19, 2008, 6:33pm EDT
It's always easier to analyze events after the fact. When a president is under pressure to act in the best interest of the largest free nation in the world, things look much different. I recommend reading Kenneth Davis' book "America's Hidden History" for some insight.
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Debra B. Jun 19, 2008, 6:37pm EDT
This was objective and insightful, and a good read. Thank you.
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Sharon B. Jun 19, 2008, 6:52pm EDT
very interesting and well written article
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Jun 19, 2008, 6:53pm EDT
Great read - and I love your log line - he did keep us safe. Jeff, you are a fool and have bought into the liberal lines of thought if you think we are not safer now. Have we had another attack on US soil since 9/11? NO, NO and um, NO! Great article, well written.
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Mary M. Jun 19, 2008, 6:56pm EDT
He did no such thing. The man is a bungler, a nincompoop and I will say far more than "Good ridance" when he leaves office - I will rejoice - I may even throw a party! I only pray we mange to keep our country intact in the next few months until someone---anyone else--is placed in charge!
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Angela A. Jun 19, 2008, 7:06pm EDT
Your writing and research is spot on.
But, the only problem I had is the title of this piece.
It's about George Bush and his legacy. Mostly it just rambles on about other presidents and weaves George in a little line or two.
Maybe if you titled it this, then I would have known what to expect,
"George Bush and his legacy, as compared to other figures in history."
As to the safety George has provided, I think the jury is still out on that one. His presidency has left a sour taste in my mouth. He has done nothing but bring us to the brink of starvation and poverty. His views on war, and everything else is very skewed.
His excuse for going into Iraq was to deal with terriosts. Since when did the terriost threat come immediately from there? His only agenda had been to have a fine legitimate excuse to get Hussein out of power. Not that I blame him for that.
I just wish he hadn't try to make it seem like he was doing some heroic thing by saving us from terriost bombs over there.
His presidency has been a joke and I can't wait for him to leave office.
And, I can't wait for the new era to begin with Obama in the president's chair.
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Dorothy H. Jun 19, 2008, 7:08pm EDT
Great article!!!
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Deloris Wright Jun 19, 2008, 7:15pm EDT
If we could write his legacey' it would not be as kind as they may be 50 years from now. But I don't think he is so great. He is a liar. He is a war monger. He thinks we should police the whole world. I agree with Mary. I will be so happy when he is out of office and I pray the U S will still be intact.
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Destin Tanero Jun 19, 2008, 7:16pm EDT
Before anyone indulges in the effort of writing their determination of the legacy of this GOP leader, "W," first, and foremost, they should watch this video from the beginning to the end.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&q=lindsey+william
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Clark Kent Jun 19, 2008, 7:26pm EDT
Bush's legacy will be one of a war criminal and an astounding, epic failure at every level.

Btw, there is NOTHING that Bush has done that has kept this nation from being attacked since 9/11, and let's not forget that 9/11 happened on HIS watch, after he flat out ignored over 50 individual warnings that something was coming. He's no freaking hero, for crying out loud.

Any one of 3,000 illegal aliens that he has allowed to pour through our southern border every single day since he stole office could be the next jihadist, and he could launch his attack against our water supply, our food supply, our chemical plants, our nuclear facilities, our refineries, our major communications hubs, and virtually anything else that he wished to attack, specifically because bush has done NOTHING to secure ANY PART OF THIS NATION.

Meanwhile, he's destroyed our national treasury with his irresponsible, rightwing debt spending, and has placed the very future of our nation in the hands of our Chinese, Saudi, and Japanese creditors.

The fact that this nation has not been attacked since 9/11 is not BECAUSE of George W. Bush, but rather in SPITE of him. He has done everything in his power to see to it that we are attacked again, and virtually NOTHING to insure that we are not.

Btw, Reagan did NOT cause the collapse of the Soviet Union. That is a great rightwing lie. He happened to be in office when a corrupt, decrepit, miserably failed system of governance simply collapsed within itself. Reagan did NOT bring about what was inevitable.

What Reagan DID do with regard to foreign policy, however, was to create al Qaeda, by funneling covert cash and weaponry to the "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan during he early 80's.

When Gorbachev came to Washington for help in getting the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan, and setting it up as a fledgling democracy, he was flatly rebuked by the white house. GOrbachev pulled out of Afghanistan, and the nation was allowed to fall into the hands of Islamic extremists.
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Bruce W. Jun 19, 2008, 7:37pm EDT
I get tired of hearing about this balanced budget bullshit. Our economy was on the decline as Clinton left office. less than eight months into his term our towers were hit. Under clinton we barely had a military. That's how he managed it. He didn't invest in our safety. This meant President Bush had to rebuild it while carrying on a war against an enemy without a true flag. He didn't decieve anyone. The whole world suspected Sadly Insane of Iraq of having nukes. They just didn't have the guts to confront him. At least understand the whole situation before condemning someone. What has congress done in the last two years to change whatever it is they were gonna change as Demacrats promised. Congress has the power and does nothing. The president can only advise and veto. You want something done about the econmy tell your congressman. They have the real power and should get the real blame.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Jun 19, 2008, 7:45pm EDT
I think you are right, that they'll try to use keeping us safe, and ridding the world of Saddam Hussein. The first is a joke and the second a disgrace.
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Diana Raabe Jun 19, 2008, 7:46pm EDT
Hardly! It's impossible to prove that he is responsible for there not being an attack here since September 11. In fact, many people believe he was responsible for the attack that did occur.

I hope that the Bush Debacle will never be covered up with a log line like that.
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Diana Raabe Jun 19, 2008, 7:47pm EDT
P.S. Great piece, by the way!
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Shirley U Understand Me S. Jun 19, 2008, 8:13pm EDT
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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ELLEN B. Jun 19, 2008, 8:24pm EDT
Not enough room for me here. Not a Bush fan. Clark has some very strong points. It is my hope that things get better for Americans. Not too interested in his legacy. Because I am living in his "now", which is not to good... As a matter of fact, it is really bad. His latest broadcast was ridiculous. If there is anything good to say about him, I must think about it, and that is sad. I realize there is something, somewhere. This is a great society now. A lot of those who patronize are passe' in their writing. The truth will all come out, about his"reign", and those of his court.,and the posterity will finally read their history lessons from several honest pens. Ellen B
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Clark Kent Jun 19, 2008, 8:31pm EDT
" I get tired of hearing about this balanced budget bullshit."

Most rightwingnuts ARE pretty tired of hearing about it by now!



"Our economy was on the decline as Clinton left office."

Yet, he handed off a $300 billion surplus, and surpluses as far as they eye could see, only to be wiped on instantly the moment Bush inked his first idiotic tax welfare handouts to millionaires. Weird, huh? Just a remarkable coincidence, I'm sure.



"less than eight months into his term our towers were hit."

Because Bush chose to ignore over 50 seperate warnings, and did NOTHING towards counter terrorism until the day before 9/11. Weird, huh? Coincidence, I'm sure.



" Under clinton we barely had a military. "

Actually, it was Poppy Bush that began the military cutbacks, and he was joined by virtually everyone in congress, both parties included.



"That's how he managed it. He didn't invest in our safety."

Right. That's why Clinton was holding 3 cabinet level meetings on counter terrorism every single week, and why he was said to be "literally obsessed with al Qaeda."



" This meant President Bush had to rebuild it while carrying on a war against an enemy without a true flag."

Yes, we sure did need more of those massive cold war weapons programs to find al Qaeda in little hidey hole caves, didn't we?



" He didn't decieve anyone. The whole world suspected Sadly Insane of Iraq of having nukes."

Incorrect. The whole world said that there was no evidence to suggest that they had ANY WMD. Check your facts. Oh wait...you're a republican...you have no use for facts. Never mind.



" They just didn't have the guts to confront him."

Well, you're right there. It definitely takes guts to launch an illegal war of aggression against a nation that poses us absolutely no threat whatsoever, while utterly ignoring the nation that produced 15 of 19 alleged hijackers!



" At least understand the whole situation before condemning someone."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Now, THAT is fricking funny, dood!



" What has congress done in the last two years to change whatever it is they were gonna change as Demacrats promised. Congress has the power and does nothing. "

Senate republicans have blocked virtually every bit of democratic legislation brought forth in the 110th congress. Trent Lott announced after they got their asses handed to them in 2006 that the republican strategy for the 110th was to "block and obstruct everything that democrats bring forth, and then run in 2008 against a do-nothing democratic congress." Great plan.



"The president can only advise and veto."

Right. Wait..I thought Clinton was to blame for the economy tanking under Bush in 2001? Wasn't the congress held by republicans then?



"You want something done about the econmy tell your congressman. They have the real power and should get the real blame."

Right. I bet republicans wouldn't block a democratic bill to re-instate the 1999 levels of taxation on the upper 5%, would they? And, I bet bush would sign that into law too, right? And, I bet if democrats introduced a bill to immediately cut all defense funding, in order to force troops home from Iraq, they'd support and sign that too, right?

Get real. You people seriously have to start yanking your heads out of your asses and start waking up. You've been gulping the wingnut kool aid for FAR too long.
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Neil K. Jun 19, 2008, 8:34pm EDT
Amen Clark!
Poor Deluded Bruce.
How many more dead Americans do we need
for the sake of Shrub's 'mistaken' war.
How many more billions will we throw down the desert rat hole in Iraq while the true enemy regains strength in Afghanistan?
How many more military personnel we will watch commit suicide (at record high rates)
while denying even the worst disabled among our vets the benefits they risked their lives for?
How many more civil liberties will we need to give up before you and any of your compadre's get it.
This "war " is not about stopping terrorism. It is about enriching Cheney's former Company Haliburton, as well as many other co.'s which have or will enrich Shrub and all his friends in the future.

Turn off Faux Mews and read a
newspaper that actually tells the news (not talking about 'terrorist fist bumps').
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Neil K. Jun 19, 2008, 8:36pm EDT
Amen again Clark!
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Jeff H. Jun 19, 2008, 9:10pm EDT
This is an excellent article. Well written and intellectually enlightening. I think that the legacy of Bush will be the end result of Iraq and Afghanistan. I agree that he did a good job keeping us safe as everybody claimed that it was foolish to think we won't be hit again. We weren't despite the many plots busted up thanks to the Patriot Act. But if Iraq becomes a viable democracy as well as Afghanistan.........
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Ravichanthran P. Jun 19, 2008, 9:12pm EDT
bi....g.... article
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Don(time to open them FEMA camps) S. Jun 19, 2008, 9:25pm EDT
His freaking legacy should be life in prison.
Kerrell g. Aug 25, 2009, 9:30pm EDT
Legacy? His legacy is so tarnished that you could scrub until Chirst returns and it would still be tarnished!
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Clark Kent Jun 19, 2008, 9:28pm EDT
"We weren't despite the many plots busted up thanks to the Patriot Act. "

Not a single so-called "terrorist plot" allegedly "broken up" by this miserably failed administration has proved to be credible. Every single much-trumpeted, highly-publicized "broken plot" has turned out, sometimes within hours or days, to be nothing but utter bullshit.

ANYONE could just sit there and make shit up, and pretend that they're a hero because of their bullshit stories, but that doesn't mean anything, except to those foolish enough to believe the bullshit stories and follow the bullshit line that it makes a failed pretendident into some sort of national hero.

History will not be kind to this lying failure of a presidency.




"But if Iraq becomes a viable democracy as well as Afghanistan"

Yeah, that'll probably happen. Maybe if we stay in both countries for say, a million years, spend a gazillion, million, billion, trillion debt dollars, slaughter another 15 million innocent Iraqis, and get another million or so Americans murdered, it'll all be "worth it."
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John B. Jun 19, 2008, 9:53pm EDT
I have read a lot about the past Presidents, my first was about FDR and the 4 terms he was elected to. Many people thought he could do no wrong because he gave people jobs when there were none. But look around now can anyone remember that he tried to pack the Supreme Court, so he could pass what ever he wanted through congress. And this was because a lot of what he pushed through Congress was ruled unconstitutional. History is written by the winners and many times it is written by someone that has a point to make about someone. Just look around who do you want to write about you when you are gone your friends or you enemies. Many times what is written today is forgotten tomorrow. Look at what people will tell you hard because most people will only tell you ½ the story, that which supports what they believes and not what actually happened.
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Digital Dogs Jun 19, 2008, 10:08pm EDT
This was a really excellent, thoughtful piece Warren, 10!

My Bushco logline:

George W. Bush was a legacy admission to every so-called accomplishment of his own administration. His biggest crime was committing treason when he outed an active undercover CIA agent, and continued to lie about it for the remainder of his presidency.
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Don(time to open them FEMA camps) S. Jun 19, 2008, 10:15pm EDT
...and still gets away with it.
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Jeff H. Jun 19, 2008, 10:27pm EDT
Clark your optimism is contagious! Yes all the plots busted up since 9/11 were flunkies tripping over their own two feet and the patriot act wasn't needed. The fact remains that the patriot act would have busted up the flunkies that executed the World Trade Center attacks. That's why it was implemented. As far as how all the flunkies were caught since 9/11 I am sure their constitutional rights were violated and Bush should be impeached.
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Dan H. Jun 19, 2008, 10:40pm EDT
I think that you've simplified the lives and administrations of very influential presidents moreso than is accurate. The lines become blurred as complexities aren't taken into account.
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Kathy D. Jun 19, 2008, 10:45pm EDT
Wasn't Bush the president when 9/11 happened? Why couldn't he "keep us safe" from that?

I'll tell you why - so that he could use it as an excuse to run roughshod over the Constitution.
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Patti M. Jun 19, 2008, 10:48pm EDT
I have to agree with Clark's comments. I think Bush was going to war come hell or high water. He ended up alienating most of our allies. Now if we need one of them what do we do? I do not care for W or his policies. I will be glad when he is gone.
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Neil K. Jun 19, 2008, 11:13pm EDT
Next January there will be a HUGE sense of relief throughout the land and a party as soon as Shrub is removed from the White House.

Clinton was far from perfect, but "Nobody Died When CLINTON Lied".
Clinton got impeached for lying about a blowjob.
That cost the taxpayers over 50 million dollars to get through.

What should be done to a treasonous murderer such as Shrimpy Mcsmirksalot?
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Warren Adler Jun 19, 2008, 11:13pm EDT
This is wonderful! Everyone bringing thoughtful, insightful opinions to the table. Let the debate continue!
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Kerrell g. Jun 19, 2008, 11:20pm EDT
The Bush legacy will be a tarnished legacy!
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The Honorable Robbie Flynn, Governor of Robbieland... Jun 19, 2008, 11:24pm EDT
I love when people give opinions. I respect it completely. No we haven't been attacked since September 11th, 2001. However, I give the credit of that because we invaded Afghanistan, not Iraq. Invading Iraq has not made us safer. Going in to Afghanistan has, and we need to beef up our efforts there. We need 150,000 troops there, not in Iraq. And we should have invaded Iran. Iran, and Ahmenijhaed is the threat. I was against invading Iraq, and only Iraq. This is my solemn thought: If we dont fight the threat over there, then, my friends, we will fight them here, and it will not be pretty.
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The Honorable Robbie Flynn, Governor of Robbieland... Jun 19, 2008, 11:25pm EDT
But to answer the question, legacy my ass. He ruined his chance. He will be lucky to have a damn library...
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Shelbia C. Jun 19, 2008, 11:51pm EDT
Since the man responsible for the attack has never been caught, I can't say we are any safer now than we were before
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Wanda H. Jun 20, 2008, 12:32am EDT
Warren, I believe you are right. Like all history it will be re-written, then interpeted then re-written again. So I don't doubt that his log line will be something just like what you wrote.

Everyone who is yelling: Warren isn't saying it is right, he is just saying it will be. Look at all the other things he cited.
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Digital Dogs Jun 20, 2008, 12:47am EDT
Someone above asked:

> "Wasn't Bush the president when 9/11 happened? Why couldn't he "keep us safe" from that?"

And I'd like to answer...Bushco couldn't keep us safe from the attack of 9/11 because he refused to listen to Richard Clarke, his own so-called Terrorist Czar. Why wouldn't he listen to Clarke, you ask?

Clarke held the same gig under Clinton and even though Bushco kept Clarke on the job after he took the White House Bushco couldn't bring himself to believe anything he didn't already believe in and Clarke word to the Bushco PTB was besmirched by his have worked for Clinton. Clarke wrote a book about this awful time and explained that Bushco was warned MANY times about bin Laden and his crazy religious nut minions but since he didn't already believe in them he couldn't bring himself to listen to Clarke.

It's called faith-based belief. If Bushco believes it to be true then it must be so... and if it isn't then change all the facts so it will be. They did the same with their lame excuse for going in to Iraq. Anyone familiar with the region at the time knew for a fact that Saddam was hated by Al Qeada almost as much as Saddam hated them. Saddam was an old line Pan-Arab nationalist, just like Hafez al-Assad of Syria was, they were not religionists, they were nationalists. Bushco didn't know the region and we have been paying for his ignorance ever since the events 9/11.

And, BTW, for those folks who have typed that Bush kept us safe after 9/11, I beg to differ by pointing out a few simple facts. The World Trade Center was successfully hit first in 1993, though the outcome was rather minor. They tried again in 2001 and were much more successful. They didn't try to hit the building again until 8.5 years later. These guys take their time planning their attacks so they will be as successful as possible. We're only about 7 years after their last try, what makes everyone so sure they won't be at it again, they're simply taking their time to do the job right.

Wake up people and think for yourselves! Bushco hasn't kept us safe from anything.
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Angel W. Jun 20, 2008, 3:00am EDT
Nice article... You made some very good points.... Our Presidents have all been human beings... and no human being is perfect... yet these imperfect humans have accomplished great things.... and are remembered for them. ....

Wishing you a magical day

Angel
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becky soccer mom x1 p. Jun 20, 2008, 8:23am EDT
EXCELLENT ARTICLE
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pamela r. Jun 20, 2008, 8:44am EDT
Excellent article--as a student of history i really liked this article--I may not necessarily agree with everything but you are correct about how history views presidents what they are remembered for down the road. I personally cannot stand Mr. Bush and his companions on the hill--and hope he is remembered for the bs he pulled--there may be no perfect person/president but he's pulled too much crap for me to think of him in a positive light.
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Farmer Slim aka Michael H Jun 20, 2008, 8:51am EDT
I have many times wondered...thought to myself, "who are those 25 or 26% of Americans who think Bush has done a good job and has been an effective leader?" "How the hell", I have thought to myself, "can anyone in his right mind think Bush has done a good job?"

Well...a few of you have shown up in this thread...amazing...simply amazing. Amazing that some of you believe in torture, lying to the American people, illegal wiretaps, spending money we don't have on a war we should not be having, ignoring the needs of the troops we sent to that war, associating with and employing criminals.....and on and on. And one who made this statement, "I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." Or this, "I'm the commander — see, I don't need to explain — I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." Or this, "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." —discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson, as quoted by Robertson...Or..never mind..........
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Warren Adler Jun 20, 2008, 1:09pm EDT
Shelbia makes a good point as does Digital Dogs. Thank you for your comment, Wanda.
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Warren Adler Jun 20, 2008, 2:24pm EDT
You're quite welcome!
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Kevin S. Jun 20, 2008, 3:46pm EDT
Great Article... Legacy: Worst president EVER!
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Warren Adler Jun 20, 2008, 3:51pm EDT
Thanks for commenting, Kevin.
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EM JAY (Gather Director of Chaos & Uprisings) W. Jun 20, 2008, 6:03pm EDT
Don't forget to thank Diebold too! And Ken Blackwell for suppressing the inner city vote in Ohio!
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Sharon P. Jun 20, 2008, 6:34pm EDT
Your very welcome. You forgot the fear of gay marriage. Which to me should be non political in the first place.
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Dee W. Jun 20, 2008, 8:03pm EDT
Bush's legacy should be "He knew which audience was the loudest and most fanatical, and how to use their ignorance to his best advantage".That the man was elected not once, but TWICE says more about the stupidity of the American people than any of us ever can. He played on every phobia and prejudice he could find to make people say, "Yeah, he's a liar who doesn't care about the welfare of the country BUT HE'S A CHRISTIAN SO THAT'S ALL JUST FINE! At least he's not for gay marriage or abortion, and he would bring prayer back to the schools if those godless Democrats would let him!"

Just remember, folks, the absolute worst atrocities our planet has ever known have been done in the name of one god or another.
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James T. Jun 20, 2008, 8:49pm EDT
Historians write history...we are the ones unfortunately who have to live through it for them to be able to write it.

:O\
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A K. Jun 20, 2008, 11:01pm EDT
interesting article
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Rae M. Jun 20, 2008, 11:15pm EDT
Thank you for that last bolded line, that is exactly how I feel, you summed it up in that one line.
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Warren Adler Jun 21, 2008, 12:07am EDT
Great comment, James.
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Jeff H. Jun 21, 2008, 12:21am EDT
""" Historians write history...we are the ones unfortunately who have to live through it for them to be able to write it.

:O\""""

I consider myself fortunate. I suppose that comes with being a libertarian independent as I don't get caught up in the hysteria whipped up by politicians. I know what I believe and I know why. I don't need a politician or the media to tell me what to think.

I remember an article that was inspired from a democrat who committed suicide at the World Trade Center site after Bush was elected for a second term in 2004. Appearantly, according to the article, there were many suicides all across the country and hundreds of thousands of petitions filed for immigration to Canada. But here we are less than 4 years later with a democrat congress and probably the most liberal candidate in history has an odds favorite to win the presidency. How bad has the country gotten to warrant suicide from then till now? Do politicians who incite fear for their vote get credit for turning the electorate into manic depressants? what is THEIR legacy?
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guy arneson Jun 21, 2008, 7:28am EDT
OMG I guess ignorance really is bliss.
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Jennifer- Very lucky mommy S. Jun 21, 2008, 7:54am EDT
As a military wife i have to stand politically correct because Bush is my husband's Commander in Chief but as an American citizen i can say that he has not been the best thing for this country.There was a purpose for our troops to be over in Iraq and so forth we tried our best to do what we could for that country and in 3 years only a majority has been accomplished now all he is doing is sending more troops away from their familes to be murdered.He thought of taking all the troops out in the next year but he has not even begun.My husband's bosses wife was just shipped out to I raq to help an Army convoy and she is Airforce.This is insane he should have been impeached long ago.I am glad to can not go another term i would not vote for him again.Along with all the others wanting to play president like Obama and Clinton we need a hard working independent to run for office who belives in the American way.
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guy arneson Jun 21, 2008, 9:41am EDT
The Mud Puddle of Life

We were slopping around
in the mud puddle of life.
When a couple of bubbles
didn't smell so nice.

I said it was you
you said it was me.
If it wasn't a fart
then what could it be?

It had to be Bush
You know he's a hood.
He even makes
Alfred E. Newman look good.

We had figured it out
and it all made sense.
Preoccupation had blinded us
and made us all dense.

Give me a towel
I got to get out.
I must warn the people
and give them a shout!

The fat lady hasn't sung
so it's not over yet.
Is the future still ours?
Don't ask me that yet.
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Warren Adler Jun 21, 2008, 1:54pm EDT
Great poem, Guy!
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Elsie Duggan Jun 21, 2008, 2:20pm EDT
This is a very good article Warren, a lot of research went into it, and I have lived through all the presidents since FDR, and have seen what happened to them all, suffered through a lot of them, and still history redeems them, so we shall see
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Warren Adler Jun 21, 2008, 3:21pm EDT
Thanks for commenting, Elsie.
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Jun 21, 2008, 11:12pm EDT
Thanks, Sheryl L, I am one of those religious right that you so obviously do not like. I am proud to stand on my ideals and my beliefs, which is more than I can say for a lot of Americans. President Bush won the support of Evangelicals because he did the same thing - he stood firm on his beliefs and ideals and would not and has not backed down. How many of you can say the same thing?
That will not happen if Obama gets the "big chair" come November. He may claim to stand on his beliefs and ideals, but you watch. He is a great charmer - and plays to the crowds. He speaks well, but he has no substance. When the big issues come into play, if he is in that chair, this country is going to be in very big trouble.
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Warren Adler Jun 21, 2008, 11:29pm EDT
Thanks for the comment, Andrea.
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Angela A. Jun 21, 2008, 11:47pm EDT
Obama rules Andrea! Chuckle. Just wanted to lighten the mood.
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Warren Adler Jun 22, 2008, 12:54am EDT
Not a bad idea, Angela!
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Sophiya S. Jun 22, 2008, 10:58pm EDT
I agree with Clark Kent
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Carl Prime Time Lee Jun 22, 2008, 11:43pm EDT
Enjoyed the photos. (This is a comment link for A Stone's Throw Away. It was written solely for when you're in the mood to be entertained. Click here to start the fun.)

History has a strange way of writing itself. (This is a comment link for A Stone's Throw Away. It was written solely for when you're in the mood to be entertained. Click here to start the fun.)
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Jun 23, 2008, 10:15am EDT
His freaking legacy should be life in prison. At best.

Warren, I came to read again now that I know you are a writer, and will address the writing. You arranged words and punctuation flawlessly on the page. I am disappointed, however, in what I believe is an appeal to either forget or distort truth over time. In my opinion, writing should come from honest reflection. Hopefully, historians will do that with Bush and in fifty years liken him to other insane tyrants.
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Christine H. Jun 23, 2008, 3:15pm EDT
I think his legacy as president will show the positive things he has done--helping free people from oppression in Iraq--the millions he has given for the AIDS cause, etc.
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Warren Adler Jun 23, 2008, 4:28pm EDT
Sigriet, Sandy and Christine, thanks for the comments.
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Sandre M. Jun 25, 2008, 2:19am EDT
Warren,

Thanks for the great article and the enthusiastic debate it has encouraged. I'm afraid you're right about the memories of historians and American citizens.

Your article made me think of the night President Nixon announced the end of the Viet Nam war. I was a high school student. I had always heard the stories "older folks" in my family told about V-E Day and V-J Day and how jubilant they were. I was home alone when I heard the news. I ran out to my dad's car and began honking the horn. That's what the elders said happened at the end of "their" wars. I thought my neighbors would all come pouring out of their houses, joining in the celebration, kissing and hugging one another. Tears were pouring down my face because I knew I could find the family of the MIA whose name I wore on a bracelet and that soon they might have some news of their loved one.

There was only silence. No movement. No celebration.

Then I realized that the families of the soldiers and the protesters knew there had been a war, but everyone else went to work, went to school, ate, slept, just kept paying their taxes.

Other than the Navy families in my neighborhood now, the only time the local citizenry noticed there were a couple of wars going on was last hurricane season when we couldn't get enough plywood to board up the windows and the merchants told us that plywood was in short supply because of the war.

I'm afraid you're right. Nixon opened up China. Bush kept us safe.

Who will keep us safe from the historians?
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Warren Adler Jun 26, 2008, 1:10pm EDT
Thanks for the comment, Sandre.
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John L. Jun 27, 2008, 12:33pm EDT
Bush did one thing to keep us safe after 9-11: he brought down the Taliban government in Afghanistan and made it more difficult for bin Laden to operate. So he achieved his legacy as his first year in office came to a close.

Then he spent his remaining seven years doing everything he could to dismantle that legacy and provoke another attack by starting a war that made the US look exactly like the godless imperialists that al Qaeda portrays us as.
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John L. Jun 27, 2008, 12:36pm EDT
One other thing Bush did to keep us unsafe: he put FEMA in the Department of Homeland Security. That's a DISASTER RECOVERY agency subservient to a SECURITY organization. It's as if he EXPECTED to fail!
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Warren Adler Jun 27, 2008, 4:19pm EDT
Great comments, John.
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denise e Jul 1, 2008, 8:31am EDT
his legacy will be all the crimes he committed and got away with.
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Warren Adler Jul 1, 2008, 5:24pm EDT
Denise,

Argument and debate are the mother's milk of independent thought. Thanks for keeping the discussion going.
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Ron Jenkins Jul 10, 2008, 1:27am EDT
He kept us safe? At the cost of personal freedom.
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Warren Adler Jul 10, 2008, 11:21am EDT
Thanks for keeping the debate going, Ron.
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Ladybounty ~. Jul 24, 2008, 7:20am EDT
Loved the article Warren.
And, enjoyed the brief look at some of our most notable presidents.

I have to say that I don't feel safe. I don't know anyone who feels safe anymore. As a matter of fact I feel more vulnerable and much, much less safe then I did a decade ago. This is partly because of the attack on NYC that has not seen the orchestrator brought to justice and also the fact that more of the world despises us now then ever before and wishes to do us severe harm. I can't say that I blame them for that, either.
Anyway, I do feel ashamed, guilty and responsible for what George W. has "accomplished" these past eight years.
As our president, elected to the highest office in this country, he and his administration have a duty to represent the majority of the American people, their preferences and ideology. That's just not the case with George W. and his cronies.
The last election proved that what the majority of the American people wanted was not iimportant.
Time will tell what George W.'s log line will be.
I can only hope that we recover from him and that historians document the last eight years thoroughly so that future generations can learn from all of the mistakes and strive not repeat them.
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Warren Adler Jul 24, 2008, 4:52pm EDT
Great comment, Lori. Thanks!
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Bethany C. Jul 28, 2008, 1:30am EDT
I feel safer with Bush in office than I anticipate feeling with him out of office.
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Cathi L. Aug 3, 2008, 10:39pm EDT
Thank you, Warren, for a very thoughtful article. It is such a relief to find something positive outside of the hate, vitriol, naysaying, etc. Thank you for reminding us that we can look to our history to see our future. Bush did, indeed, keep us safe and I do think history will look kinder on this man who stood behind his word, who ignored all the negativity and continued his path on what he believed to be right. He did his best to represent the silent majority, as opposed to the loud, boisterous, liberal minority. I, too, am a student of American history, particularly American Revolution, and have read of all the caluminators dashing those in office, speculation, rumours, scandalous flyers. No president has gone unscathed and no president is perfect. But we are a passionate people, no more so today than 200 years ago. God bless the USA.
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Cathi L. Aug 3, 2008, 10:48pm EDT
And Clark! Again, I'm getting Lois! You need your mouth washed out with soap and help you get your tights unknotted! You are obviously very uncomfortable like that!
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Warren Adler Aug 3, 2008, 11:22pm EDT
Thanks for the comments, Cathi.
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