Be Careful of What You Wish For

I still say "incumbent" is a four letter word and Hillary is just trying to move up the ladder.

Mr. Lilly... do you remember Bush's interview with Matt Lawer??? I hope you go look at that interview on national television and watch how President Bush points his finger INTO Matt's chest and gets in his face. Please do not try to paint Clinton as a lunatic for what Bush has done at least once. here are the facts my friend (I am a moderate Republican who is discussed by Bush and this deep right wing party... we have been hijacked by the religious right and I hope we gain control before fear mongers take control)


Fact 1) The congress was Republican run since 1994 and many budget requests were shot down by the Republican controlled congress. Granted Clinton did not spend the amount of money Republicans spent on Iraq now, but wasteful government spending forced Clinton and Republicans to make cuts.
Facts 2) We have been attacked by terrorists since the mid 70's and no one has been able to stop these fundamentalists. These are our modern day pirates... Groups who battle with fear and terror to gain money and/or power. Fear and terror is what terrorists use to push their despair in the world It seems like Bush and most Republicans rather use the fear to build more fear, rather than use the countries fear and turn it into ONE UNITED NATION with the goal of eliminating terror. We are too divided as a country... this is an undeniable fact!
Fact 3) Clinton tried to find and kill Bin Laden, but Republicans who were pushing an extra-marital affair to appeal to their conservative base, are now trying to pass the buck to Clinton for not doing enough when they were dragging his name and dignity through the mud for almost 2 years. Even with that heavy burden of daily news stories on this Ken Star witch hunt... (by some Republicans who had married their mistresses and had numerous affairs) Clinton still managed to take a few good chances at killing Bin Laden. When anyone says that Clinton waited too long to get the people who attacked the U.S.S. Cole because he waited to see the intelligence agency report... they don't seem to remember the fact that this current Bush Administration with Dick Chaney and the other collaborators for the Iraq War went into Iraq and attacked Iraq without a full investigation on their true involvement. Now we find that the intelligence was 100% wrong.
So what's better, a President who thinks things through, or one who acts on hand picked intelligence?
It's just too easy to see that Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld had a deep relationship with Saddam during the 70's and 80's... interesting to think about. It could be a coincidence... we just don't know.

Bush did NOTHING in his first 8 months and 5 years in office. Where is Bin Laden? Dead or alive? What happened to all the promises? Clinton admitted to not doing a good job... what a concept, accountability. Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton always admitted to errors during and after their terms. The BIG difference: Bush has NEVER admitted to an error; errors before 9/11, errors after 9/11, errors in the Iraq War, errors in Katrina. For GODS sake, BE A MAN AND OWN UP TO YOUR RESPONSIBLITIES!!! He is not a true man, a real American would show his/her mistakes and for Gee-duble-ya to never admite a mistake proves only one thing to this Republican: He is not a true American and needs to stop saying he supports our troops. His administration and REpublicans have had control for 5 years now and congressional control for over 10 years... anything that happens to our great country will be on him Good or Bad.
Be accountable Mr. President... be the man you say you are! Stop defending your ill-advised actions into entering Iraq when Afganistan was 10 times more important. How can anyone tear Clinton a new hole for not going into Afganistan for Bin Laden for the future attack of 9/11 (I didn't know he had a crystal ball) and let Bush take 75% of our troops into Iraq and NO ONE is tearing him a new one for letting Bin Laden still live after 3000 were murdered. SHAME on all who do not hold ALL of our elected officials to the same fire and questioning. Clinton did screw up, he admitted he did, and then stated facts of what he did... I am still waiting for President Bush to admit his ill advised plan to divert +$300 billion for the war on terror to go into Iraq... an evil country that has its power checked by Iran and Saudi Arabia, and in turn Iraq checked Irans power. Now Bush created Hamas leadership in Gaza, Hezbollah leadership in Lebanon, and his actions lead Iran to vote a moderate President out for a redical lonatic. Check your facts!

David, and please call me Steven. As a teacher I get Mr. Lilly all day. You've been pushing this article all over the place. NOWHERE did I insinuate that Clinton was a lunatic. But, come on, this was about as transparant as it gets. Bush created Hamas' leadership? Look, over a decade, radical groups understand that they have more to gain by being part of the process. It takes time. I'm sorry that this is a long term project, but go beyond the DNC talking points about "diverting" resources from the war on terror. By the way, you would NEVER catch a man like bin Laden with the First Armoured Division. They're the best tank division in the world, but that's not what they are made for. I took the time to write NEW words for this article so pay me the common courtesy of writing new words to resond to it.

"Before you comment on what a right-wing fool I am..." - Steven Lilly

It seems to me that you are misguided. You must open your eyes and see past the right and left wing. They are only there to keep you from seeing the big picture. There are a class of elites that have inflitrated world's governments. Their life is not like our's. People like us rarely communicate with these individuals directly. Usually, we talk to their secrataries or assistant secrateries. These people are powerful, as the adage goes, "money talks and people listen." Similarly, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely." All aspects of our life are heavily influenced, on the brink of control. Please get civically active in your communities, vote and become aware of the global world around you. This is our last chance.

As a liberal internationalist and (quite frankly) a Marxist, you surely believe this. But, my myopia aside, the "global world" does not exist. Money, while sometimes corrupting, is a fact of life. I think that you have to see beyond your ideology to see that money is sometimes not the central issue

"...the "global world" does not exist...", how so?

This is code-speak for the global village. The idea that we are part of one village has great appeal and has been adopted by the UN. In reality, your vehicle for this global village is dominated by an anti-American general Assembly where bigots from around the world spew anti-Americanism, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, and anti-Captialist rhetoric. Kofi Annan (head of peacekeeping operatins during the 1990's) appears to shake hands once in awhile to validate this worldview and Americans engaged in self-hate condone it as "objective".

well, condi didn't exactly say that clinton lied, but she said she didn't get that comprehensive report. however the intelligence report said she did.

a big HMMM

Yeah , as much as I hate to say it. I am like Clinton when I am trying to defend myself. I get really mad when I know I am lying. Thankfully I dont do it very often. At least I dont get caught doing it LOL. Bottom line, Clinton is full of crap.

David, I believe you need to check your facts, do you actually believe that iran's elections mean anything??? you think the pres. has any power? he is a moth piece for the clerics who have final say over the entire govt..good god man...wake up, you are calling for a one world govt. so you must think that we should submit to internatiol law? should a french judge define our laws for us? cmon, whats next?

What do you expect when someone blames you for the deaths of thousands? Clinton, of course, was on the defensive just as Bush is when asked questions that are offensive. There is plenty of blame to go around, but the bottom line is those who are REALLY responsible are the ass holes who hijacked those planes. If not 9/11, it most likely would have been something else, sadly. We are Americans. Left and Right. (I'm a lefty, but that's beside the point) It happened. The government screwed up. Before and after. We, as regular citizens, should be united against ANY human who intends to harm, and as much as I hate politicians, I don't think they want harm.

The current problem stems from a Republican controlled federal government. Clinton is only responding to that. He was not in control but he needed to respond and respond he did. Chris Wallace was not fairminded with his questions and Clinton (who usually can handle that) lost it. I feel for Clinton. He brought our budget into order and reformed welfare - two issues that mean something to me. Even the Republican Congress of his time did not move until he made the proposals. This Congress is disgusting.

Joe T., you're awesome