Guns at Obama events

dangerous

Well. I kinda see their point, because I am a strong proponant of the secind ammendment of the right for the common citizenry to keep and bear arms. However, I hope they proceed with caution, as one wacko in the crowd could do a lot of harm, and screw it all up for everyone else.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government
-Thomas Jefferson

Americans are just sending a message to their government. The President and all other elected official need to be reminded that they serve the people.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?"
-Thomas Jefferson

Crazy people don't need a president; they need a warden.

Or perhaps a zoo keeper.

I personally don't own a gun of any kind, although at one time I did. I see the need for an armed citizenry, however, considering the kind of special interest oligarghy we have with our partisan political system. I think that people need some reminder that they can't just "tread on me" in the name of their views of social justice that are at odds with what the majority of people think. Unfortunately, there are too many pseudo intellectuals (i.e. movie stars and their ilk) who grab media attention with fringe ideas, such as gay rights being more valuable to the society than the rights of non-gays.

The trouble is, as I have stated many times before in these discussions, we are still socially and governmentally operating in our baboon mentality with sophisticated chest beating, banana awarding male and female dominant hyarchy paradigm (any partisan political system). Most important, however, is the fact that we cannot grow up out of such a primitive paradigm of governance through political rhetoric, which is the heart of the problem in the first place. Only religion has the power to sway large numbers of people to a new paradigm. And present day "religions" (i.e. antiquated systems designed by God for more primitive societies thousands of years ago such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) cannot "cut it." As a result, most people in the developed countries have no real idea or appreciation for the value of religion or even as to its efficacy. They invariably equate religion with those antiquated hold overs from eons ago and don't even know what those were, only the distorted versions held by their present day adherents, who have their own fiduciary axes to grind. So instead of looking for the religious paradigm from God given for our times, they hold onto their own distorted versions from the past never meant for today. In effect, they have thrown out the baby with the bath water.

Religion and guns again. We have a large number of highly armed militias full of hatred and ignorance. You have contributed to whatever tragedy they may inflict on your country.
Just how would an armed citizenry benefit us in the context of your first paragraph? Whom would the citizens fire upon?

Despicable and insane. What has happened to my America?

Leo L.: You should read my piece again and be more thoughtful. I'm merely expressing why the constitution guarantees the citizenry the right to bear arms. You don't have to agree with our constitution but if you don't then how can you have the gall to say, "What has happened to my America?" If we -- the citizenry -- wish to change the constitution then we can pass an amendment by due process of law. I AM NOT ADVOCATING THE USE OF ARMED REBELLION but that is how the United States was formed. The rebellion came about because of unjust treatment of the colonies by the parent country, England.

"Who would the citizens fire upon?" They would revolt against injustice in the system if it came to that. Their view is that (not mine necessarily) if they are not armed and do not demonstrate that they know how to use the arms, the government will take advantage of them and remove their inalienable rights. I know this probably sounds unconscienable to you but that is "my America". Not everybody has to agree with you, which is one of the things that makes our country what it is.

It was staged.