This article was taken from the website for America's Most Wanted: http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=1408&mid=0
This is yet another instance of how well protected the people from Mexico are even though they are breaking laws of this country. I think this situation is just as outrageous as the one with the border patrol agents,yet this story doesn't seem to be getting circulated enough. More people need to be made aware of what is going on. It's no damned wonder that so many of the law enforcement people around the country are afraid to do anything when it comes to the illegals.
"The town of Rocksprings, Texas is a small town – population 1,200 – with a tough battle on its hands. It's an old wool-shipping center where God, church and the border are at the center of life. The Edwards County Sheriff's Office keeps watch over the city with just three deputies, and most of the department's cases have to do with illegal immigrants. These deputies are the officers on the front lines, keeping watchful for terrorists, illegal immigrants and gangs coming across the border from Mexico. One of the deputies on the force, Gilmer Hernandez, earned $20,000 a year trying to keep order in Rocksprings. Day and night, Hernandez would struggle with illegal immigrants trying to come into Rocksprings. It's a dangerous assignment, but Hernandez was happy to do it.
On the night of April 14, 2005, Deputy Sheriff Hernandez was on routine patrol. In the stillness of the vast desert night, a speeding Surburban ran through a red light, and Deputy Hernandez stopped the vehicle. Investigators say that, as he walked to the driver's side, the vehicle peeled away, almost running over his foot. The lawman fired several shots -- one of which blew out the rear tire, just like in the movies.
The vehicle stopped, and eight or nine illegal immigrants jumped out and took off running into the sagebrush. According to reports, one illegal immigrant, a woman named Marcela Rodriguez Garcia, remained in the back seat of the car. She was hit by one of the bullets, and it shattered some of her teeth. She was treated at the hospital, and was released to the care of her husband. Deputy Hernandez reported the incident to his supervisors, who -- according to procedure -- called the state to investigate.
But within days, the federal government was investigating too. The Mexican consulate had sent a letter to local and federal law enforcement officials in Texas demanding a full investigation. The U.S. Attorney's office charged Deputy Hernandez with violating the civil rights of the woman in the back seat of the car. Prosecutors say that, because the agent's life was not in danger, he shouldn't have shot at the vehicle. Defense attorneys argue he was doing his job, and he did believe that his life was in danger.
Surprisingly, on December 1, 2006, a jury convicted Hernandez. He'll be sentenced in March, and he could face up to a decade in prison.
Gilmer Hernandez grew up in the town of Rocksprings and his roots there run deep. It was here that he met and married his high school sweetheart. He began serving his town and country when he was 18 years old, taking a job as a jailor so that he could get his foot in the door of law enforcement. As soon as he reached the minimum age to be a deputy sheriff, 21, Gilmer applied for the position and got the part time job. Many citizens believed that one day Gilmer would be their Sheriff, continuing to protect their homes and families. Instead, he is now awaiting his sentencing in March.
Needless to say, the town of Rocksprings was stunned and outraged upon Hernandez's conviction. They were so shocked that the small Baptist church in town decided to help pay the Hernandez' mortgage and their legal bills. The Sheriff of Edwards County told America's Most Wanted his deputy did nothing wrong. The local Baptist preacher, Albert Green said, "Our deputy is in jail for doing his job". The Sheriff called the prosecutor "overzealous" and calls the pressure put on officials by the Mexican consulate "intense".
America's Most Wanted found out the U.S Attorney's office who decided to pursue this case is no stranger to controversy. The U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas is the same one who recently prosecuted two Border Patrol Agents, Jose Compean and Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos, for shooting an illegal drug smuggler on the border. They were convicted, and are now serving time in federal prison.
And Ignacio Ramos' family says that, when AMW ran their story on February 3, 2007, a gang of illegal immigrants serving time with Agent Ramos recognized their fellow prisoner on television and beat him viciously. According to his family, they were shouting, "Kill the border patrol officer!" in Spanish as they pummeled him.
The case of Sheriff's Deputy Gilmer Hernandez will leave many wondering: what is truly going on at our border?
Politics At Play?
America's Most Wanted discovered that international pressure and politics may have influenced the prosecutions of the Texas lawmen. Four days after the incident involving Deputy Hernandez, the Mexican consulate sent a letter to local enforcement officials in Texas. This letter demanded the "crime" not remain unpunished. Two days later the same letter went to the FBI.
Attorneys say that you don't often see the government of another country interested in seeing someone punished, but that the pressure could affect the actions of the justice department. But, according to U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, they prosecute based on the facts, and politics don't come into play. Regardless, some members of Congress are calling for an investigation regarding Mexico's role in pressuring the U.S. to file charges against "The Texas Three". Meanwhile, activists are taking matters into their own hands.
Thousands Taking Action
Protesters on both sides of the debate are getting involved. In Dothan, Alabama, local radio station WTVY-FM has launched a massive campaign called "Country Cares About Our Country". The station urges listeners to simultaneously call the Whitehouse everyday at 9 A.M., demanding the pardon of the Texas lawmen.
On Saturday, Febuary 10th, 2007 members of activist groups Save Our State, the Minutemen, and the Crispus Attucks Brigade organized a rally in Los Angeles, California supporting "The Texas Three". The event that took place on Hollywood Boulevard also attracted heat from the other side of the issue. The group Act Now to Stop War & Racism (ANSWER) also made an appearance with other counterprotesters, wielding signs against the Border Patrol and in praise of the prosecution against the lawmen.
The activist group Grassfire.org started a petition drive urging President Bush to pardon Agents Ramos and Compean. So far, that group has gathered more than three hundred twenty-five thousands signatures. Meantime, a citizen-initiated petition has been started to pardon Gilmer Hernandez on Firesociety.com, an online community. Activists from both sides say that thousands have contacted them in an effort to get involved. They encourage you to get in touch with U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton's office if you support the prosecution of the lawmen. But, if you perceive the case as what some call a miscarriage of justice, activists encourage you to contact your representative in Congress and President Bush at the White House in Washington."
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On the other hand, I have heard this deputy's story before and while I agree that in the usual course of events shooting at a car that is fleeing you might be extreme, the circumstances here give rise to a justifiable belief that these guys might hurt him.
The fact that the same prosecutor was involved in all of the cases also concerns me. I have never been a fan of the people in the US Attorney's Office and my experience has been that they will do whatever it takes to win a case including misleading a jury. I think there needs to be an investigation of the office and the US Attorney himself.
Officer Hernandez did the right thing. The government did the wrong thing.
It is my opinion that the American people are getting a LITTLE fed up with criminals entering this country, getting treated as the victim, and putting the men we depend on to protect us in prison.
We are angry and some are taking action.
Google in grassfire and read a little of what the talking heads won't tell you.
Join in the upcoming boycott of the Bank of America.
Wells Fargo might be next.
The officer felt threatened. I can't believe he would get this punishment for doing his job!
Outrage, I tell you!
This upside down law enforcement must be stopped.Although it may be too late already. How about a dmz down there anyone caught in it could be shot on site?
When will congress wake up?
Build the fence and start deportation now.
First of all I really do not care if the cop was Hispanic, Anglo or a Martian. I will always feel conflict and revulsion with individuals who feel is justified to kill a person simply because he or she is an illegal, just like I would if that same said person was black, yellow or red. If that makes me irrational so be it. Oh I guess it's all right since the woman only had some teeth shattered by the bullet. As for all the people I see on prime time television realty programs trying to out run the police and causing all the spectacular wrecks they must all be illegals.
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/immigration_facts_figures_and_addendum.html
Maybe J. Golden might have a minute to check this out also.
You made many blanket statements about how we are singling out Mexicans and you have called us racist, even when people have posted about illegal immigration in general, and Mexicans because they are the dominant invaders.
You call us racist because we demand a stop to illegals not to legal immigrants.
As to this officer, when you put on a badge and are put in a position where you have to make a life or death call for your own well being, then you have the right to make the statements you make here. You are assuming this officer shot because these people ran, well again you are making a guess, and if they were being stopped they should have stopped PERIOD!! Had they done so, no shot would have been fired.
As to the reality programs, there are a majority of hispanics, and no statements are made as to their legal status. If they are not criminals, they wouldn't be running.
I already share many benefits of living in a modern society with people who are less fortunate. i just prefer to help those who aren't criminal invaders.
You might want to check your facts, Simon and you'll find that this group you just described gives more to charity than other groups.
Why are you so concerned about the illegal immigration problem in the U.S. when you live in New Zealand?
Simon, what right do you have to classify any of us? Not only are you not living with the problem or consequences of illegals, but you have no idea where we are from. I DO NOT live in the Mid-West, I am NOT a born again, and though I am republican, I am NOT conservative.
Since you are so good at judging us, and telling us how to live and deal with these problems lets send them all to you and your country. You support them, you give them all that they demand from us, YOU share what you've got with these less fortunate, then tell us how well you are doing.
The only things I have to say aside from what the others are saying is that,Juan,the cop didn't know who was in that vehicle when he shot.He never got close enough to see what color they were,and remember,it was dark.He had no clue if they were illegal.Second,I have seen first hand what goes on in the health care system.It's hard to not feel the way I do when I take my kids in to the doctor and in the half hour I am in the waiting room on any given day I see at least 4 families of Hispanics come in and try to explain in mostly Spanish that they have no health care and no money to pay.Guess what?They aren't asked to pay a penny,or provide any identification.They are seen by the doctor.The funny thing is,my husband has been with me and known some of these people because they work where he does,so how could they not have any money or ID?The ID from their workplace is a photo ID with their name.Granted it might not be their real name,because there have been many arrests here in this small town of Hispanics who were using false names.Thirdly,to Simon,I do help out less fortunate whenever I can,but I help out the ones who are citizens of this country.I am actually not that fortunate in the area of money,but I am happy for what I have.I don't want anyone to help me,so what gives the illegals the right to whine for help?They need to pave their own way.And well with everything that is handed out to them,it should be pretty easy for them to live a better life.If you stop and think about it Simon,if I should be helping the less fortunate,then I suppose it would be ok for me to aid a robber?You are basically saying it's ok for anyone to break the law as long as they are "less fortunate".Thirdly,Juan,why should I do your research for you?If you don't believe me that illegals are getting free education,do your own research.I could care less if you believe me and I don't have anything to prove to you.I see what goes on in my own kid's schools.I never said "college" either.The illegals are getting free education in all levels of the system.Fourth,I may live in the midwest and be Republican,but I am Catholic...which as far as I know is the biggest religion out there helping the illegals,which makes me sick but I am still Catholic.Finally,in my opinion the two biggest reasons why so many people are against the illegals are that they are breaking the law,and that a lot of them openly display their hatred and disrespect for this country.
The American's Creed
"I believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people by the people, for the people, whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a Republic; a sovereign Nation of many sovereign States; a perfect Union, one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes.
I therefore believe it is my duty to my Country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey its laws; to respect its flag, and to defend it against all enemies."
Yup, this is Bigotry and By God this is what I have. Don't you wish you had something to live by.
You keep spewing hatred and disgust with a particular segment of humanity and state that it makes you sick that Devote Catholics aid those in need, specifically illegal immigrants, and in the same breath assert your Catholism. Doesn't that sound a little ironic and condescending to use in the place of a better term. As for asking you for any research you might have done in order to substantiate your claims, I guess I was wrong when thinking of you as an intelligent and mature person I could openly debate our different points of view.
Mitch,thanks for making me laugh!
Now,I know I just went back on what my previous post said about how I was done replying to Juan,but I couldn't let that bit of being more true to my convictions pass by.Am I the only one that thinks his rationalization of the use of the word Hispanic is ludicrous?
What about this statement is not racist? It sad but you are the very definition of racism. I pity any Latino who unfortunate to deal with you in your profession. I have strong beliefs that they would receive better care from a veterinarian.
I will miss our heated and intellectual repartee. But you are not the first who discontinues conversing with someone who has brought to light his or her real motives in the topic of immigration. So keep me in mind next time your disgust for Hispanics overwhelms you. My name is Juan J Martinez, I am a citizen as are all the members of my family, I am college Educated and very successful in my profession. I have attended, as a guest, several Hollywood parties; I have been to Beverly Hills, NYC, and LA all because of my profession. I have had songs publish and recorded. All this and more all the while being one of lowly Hispanics you find so disgusting. Again I will miss our exchanges. Adios Stephanie C.
Oh, my God, that was f*cking racist....*LOL* Juan, this is just too funny... I think it's one of those cases where a person genuinely doesn't realize they're racist...it's so deep...
"They all look the same, so how can I tell if they are legal or not? At least anyone who is white has a high percentage of being here legally, even if they are not a citizen."
* wonderful can be as simple as waving a Mexican flag at a rally.
I too can pronounce spanish words correctly;
won't do it until you stop saying 'your woe-per eez ready Jeeem.'
A car fleeing ina country we invaded can be blasted away with impunity.
But a car fleeing IN a country they invaded can't be fired upon?
Oh, I forgot, we issue patrol cars to the police so instead of disabling the fleeing car by shooting at the tires, they can chase it until it T-Bones a family in a station wagon at an intersection.
All this anger brought about simply for bringing up the fact that illegal immigrants do not commit all the violence and crime in the United States. I must have touched a nerve.
If your going to quote me , try not to do it in context.
All this anger brought about simply for bringing up the fact that illegal immigrants do not commit all the violence and crime in the United States. I must have touched a nerve.
sutton is one corrupt politician in the same vein as bush and gonzales....
American justice:what a joke!!!
I've never had the opportunity to do jury duty...but if it's anything like the movies, there's usually 10-12. That means they would all have to be in on it? Usually they try to pick out a diverse group. Just a thought...
According to the rules, the use of deadly force (and this pertains to police and civilians alike), is that you CANNOT justify firing a weapon at another person while he/she is "fleeing" from you. It is only justifiable if your own life is in imminent danger. In other words, it would have been justified if the car was moving *toward* him and not speeding *away* from him.
In the case of Ramos & Campeon, the drug smuggler was turned sideways and pointing what appeared to be a gun at the BP as if to shoot, giving the BP just cause. The BP fired his weapon, the bullet went through the smugglers' left butt cheek, and through his groin and lodged in his right leg, proving that the smuggler was not running away - a justifiable shot. BTW, The drug smuggler is *left handed*.
So he DOES NOT face jail time because of illegal aliens, he faces time because he made a bad choice.
And BTW...we don't all look alike...some of us are prettier than others!
I'm still not sure about how I feel re: Hernandez... poor guy.
HG, I think you should grace us with a pic of your pretty face?!
I am also not sure how to take your other comment in regards to my saying they all look the same.I was not trying to sound racist.
Keep tying the hands of law enforcement and you will have pure anarchy.
Let police do their jobs..........
Stephanie you can't convince the illegal supporters that you are not racist , that's the only argument they have for supporting the criminal invaders.
If I were an officer today, I would be very leary of stopping anyone for fear that I would be prosecuted and persecuted for defending myself in order to go home to my family at the end of my shift.
As was stated earlier, if this had not been a vehicle full of illegals at a time when illegal debate is running so high, this would not have become such a controversial subject.
Funny thing, and I'm not sure I posted this on this thread, but I have posted it before:
I have one daughter married to a Mexican (born here to LEGAL immigrant parents), another engaged to one, a grandaughter who is obviously 1/2 Mexican, another on the way, and a son who until recently had an African American girlfriend. All of these people are part of my family, and loved very much. My sons ex-girlfriend and her two children(from a prev marriage) are still very much a part of our family, and will be for as long as they wish to be so.
My Mexican son-in-law is an AZ State Trooper, and even he has no tolerance for the illegals. He has also said that what these people do to each other is worse than what we would even think of doing.
I guess what I am trying to say is, posting in places like this does not allow others to truly get to know about you, and people will make rude judgement calls either in the heat of the debate, or just because they make assumptions. A point I tried to prove to Juan, when I made a comment about the possibility that he was not American after all, when he called several of us racists. He did not grasp the sarcasm in my statements, and obviously did not understand the point I was trying to make.
Don't stop posting and don't let others force you into believing in something that you feel is wrong.
Stephanie at times has made several statements that contradict her assertions that she does not have any racist tendencies. How can you make a blanket statement like Stephanie C. commented Feb 27, 2007 "They all look the same, so how can I tell if they are legal or not?? At least anyone who is white has a high percentage of being here legally, even if they are not a citizen " What about these statement does not have some racist undertones.
That is my whole contention that certain individuals and again I am not saying every White American joins the debate of Immigration and illegal immigration as an outlet to expend their energies coming from their Xenophobic feelings which are buried and ingrained so deeply in their persona that they don't even realize it.
And one more thing I challenge Stephanie, Anne G and anyone else to find any statement in which I stated that everyone who is against immigration and or illegal immmigration is a racist.
Really can you give it a rest how many times do you have to reinterate the fact that Step made a remark that they "all look the same". In my opinion she was eluding to the fact that most have dark skin and dark hair, not a stereotypical statement but a statement in fact since most persons here illegally are of hispanic heritage. But as in most arguments when it comes to illegal immigration the ammunition that you have is to play the race card. Ah the racist card be very careful of the race card juan, Your Quote: I am not saying every "white" American joins the debate of immigration as an outlet to expend their engergies coming from thier Xenophobic feelings which are buried and ingrained so deeply in their persona that they dont even realize it." Are you saying that not every "white" american holds these feelings but only "white" americans are capable of these Xenophobic feelings since you went out of your way to call us out in your post, maybe you are the one who has their feelings so deeply ingrained so deeply in your pesona that you don;t realize you have them. YOU went out of your way to call out the "white" american. How racist of you.
Look, I read your posts, and I had voiced my opinion about what I thought about it...and I did find it offensive. I think that sometimes people make statements without realizing how racist it sounds. For example, a long time ago, one of my friend's moms kept making statements me such as, "Hi, everyone, this is Little Susie's MEXICAN friend, Leti...." WTF? I wondered why she had to put race in front of it.
I've also heard people describe their BLACK friend to other people.... Why can't it just be 'my friend'? If you have white friends, do you go around and describe your WHITE friend to other friends? Not saying that you do that, but it's the type of 'racism' that I find hidden in some people...I honestly think that people just aren't aware of it.
I mean, you make generalizations...for example you wrote:
"Second,I have seen first hand what goes on in the health care system.It's hard to not feel the way I do when I take my kids in to the doctor and in the half hour I am in the waiting room on any given day I see at least 4 families of Hispanics come in and try to explain in mostly Spanish that they have no health care and no money to pay."
Do you speak Spanish? No? Then how do you know they can't pay? Doesn't mean they're illegal, either....just financially poor people like some of us...Do you also know that I've seen a high percentage of white people also have the same problem paying for hospital bills? I worked the front desk at a hospital for two years, and I always saw it.
I've told several people about this but where I live there are more 'white' people than minorities, so a lot of the crime up here are mainly 'whites'. You guys probably have more Hispanics, so the ratios hold the same.
It's that kind of biased statement that makes me feel the way I DO. Stephanie, do you understand that part? Do you see where I am coming from?
Anne G...so what you're family is married to Hispanics? Would you still accept them if they HAD been illegal?
Sherry C. wrote: "In my opinion she was eluding to the fact that most have dark skin and dark hair, not a stereotypical statement but a statement in fact since most persons here illegally are of hispanic heritage." Statement in fact? Okaaay...so I should feel that way about every 'white' skinned person who has ever done a wrong towards me or my family...and, therefore, I should just assume every white person is evil because you all look the same to me, too? See how stupid that sounds?
Don S...no one is supporting illegal immigration here.
Another thing Leti, don't assume that because someone doesn't speak spanish, that they don't understand what is being spoken. Obviously with the number of extended Mexican family members we hear it all the time. I don't always understand, but what I don't my daughters fill me in on, and imagine the looks on the faces of the NON-RACIST Mexicans when they are talking about us, assuming we don't understand, and my daughter responds in FLUENT Spanish!!
None of that withstanding, your comment:
//so what you're family is married to Hispanics? Would you still accept them if they HAD been illegal? //
That was senseless, since this was entered here to prove that just because we don't support illegals does not make us racist.
I have all the respect in the world for ALL who come here legally, I have NONE for ANY illegals. It's been posted on Gather that the path to the US legally is sometimes too difficult and/or expensive, and that's the reason so many come illegally. Well, the path to a college education in this country, which is the best way to achieve the American dream, has become way too expensive for many middle class and low income families, and the assistance from our own govt. for our own people has been greatly reduced, and at the same time, many colleges are giving instate tuition rates to illegals. I guess we should find a way to circumvent the tuition system, that illegals circumvent our immigration system. After all, we are both trying to achieve the American Dream!!
As for college...oh, don't get me started...
you asked Anne G a very important question, "would you accept them if they had been illegals?" Well she already told you that she did accept them and they are hispanic so no problem there right? So why the question on the legal status, if she accepts them then she is not a racist right? So does she have to accept the fact that they are illegals to also not be called a racist? If i say that you are a Mexican is that offensive to you, even though I hear the term Mexican American often?
In an earlier post you stated that you asked your banker friend if illegals were getting deferential treatment concerning credit and he just laughed, you may want to call your "banker friend" and ask if he has heard of bank of america giving credit cards to illegals that have no social security numbers or credit, something we americans are required to have to apply for credit with bank of america.
BTW, I'm not Mexican or Mexican American...just American. Thanks.
Let me ask is Bank of America specifically giving credit cards to illegals and asking for no SS with dealing with immigrants of a Latin persuasion or is this a blanket policy that includes all U.S. born customers as well. Does Bank of America require no SS. #s for Hispanics and Mexican and requires SS for White Americans?
Sherry when I use the term "White American" it is in response to some generalization statement, intentional or not, made by some individual that groups all Hispanics, Mexicans and Latinos into the same group of "Illegal Immigrant'. When someone assumes simply because a brown skin human being can not pay their medical bills or if they speak Spanish in front of them, they must be illegal they are succumbing to the unjust temptations of racism. If you read my comments in their entirety than it is easy to understand the reason for the use of the term. As for the quick unjust jump to judgment of all Hispanics simply because of some perceived slight or because your point of view has been skewed by some trauma having to do with minorities that is just plain idiotic. You can't say you have no racist tenancies in one breath and than blame all your town's and neighborhoods problems only on Latinos with the other. They all look the same, they all can't or won't pay their hospital bills; they are all lazy and dirty. This is exactly the definition of Racism.
Whopper= soft English 'o' which sounds like the a in padre.
Call me insensitive, or maybe call me a realist.
Mexico tried dual societies for a while, then the Texicans said, we are not Mexican, and the revolution was on.
I had an editor, she was White, who was caught by immigration and deported. Canadian with expired work permit (green card.)
Also studies of border towns with high numbers of immigrants, legal and illegal, actually have lower crime rates than comparable cities.
James, I'm just wondering something...my mom speaks and reads English. She still has a huge Spanish accent, though. It's something that stresses her because she's been violently ridiculed for it by her co-workers and general society. For example, we went to order a burger and the cashier didn't flinch as she said, I can't understand you, before calling for an 'effin translator. My mom was so offended. I don't think her accent is bad...people just need to be patient.
She tries really hard, but it's something she can't help. She has 'assimilated' as best she can. I don't think people with accents should be ridiculed.
James, you said border town with high number of immigrants have lower crime rates than comparable cities...that's a first. Just curious where you heard such stats?
Stephanie, those people that you talk about demanding the U.S. conform to them are extremists and its disrespectful. I just hate it when I see other people talking about Hispanics like we're 'all in on it'...or as Brandon Ragle once lumped me with my 'co-ethnics'.
BTW, HG brought up the concept that Hernandez DID mess up..he fired on a fleeing vehicle. Sucks, but true. My brother, who is also named Juan (but I still call him Juanito), is a city cop in Texas. They've been STRICTLY trained that the only time you would ever draw a weapon is to kill a person. The van was fleeing from him...not towards him... :(
There we go again, someone turning a debate into a childish name calling exchange. I also feel like reverting to my basic instincts but I find it more helpful to remain level headed and debate at a mature level.
Makes me ask "What would these officers have to say about their brother who shot at a fleeing van and hit an unarmed suspect that never threaten his life.
P.S.; When are you ever going to settle on an avatar? LOL
Another TOTALLY DIFFERENT situation. You cannot compare each situation to the next. Each situation is unique in and of itself. There are just too many variables.
You seem to have a problem with receiving direct answers to questions you asked of me, and it appears that no matter what I tell you, it will not change YOUR labeling me a racist, and I am NOT a racist. I just refuse to sit back and have these people come here tell me I MUST learn to speak spanish, they are ENTITLED to everything I and my family have had to pay for all our lives, and worse fly the Mexican flag, or any flag of any other nation. That does not make me or anyone who thinks as I do a racist, we have no problem with LEGAL immigrants!
I find it quite humorous that there is always someone crying foul when a criminal is hurt in the act of committing a crime. Illegal, running from the law, criminal......
You would probably have been one of the first to scream if some innocent person or persons would have been harmed by these people if the officer had just let them speed away, and they caused an accident or run over a pedestrian.
I would not want to be a law enforcement officer today, especially not in a border state. These men and women head off to work every day defending and protecting (I am well aware there are bad cops out there too) and putting their lives on the line each and every day. Once again Leti, I speak from experience, because my son-in-law is an AZ state trooper and he's been a cop for over 7 years now. His second year on the force one of his partners was shot and killed by one of those illegals who was "running away". That young man was 23 and had a new born baby at home. Again I am sure you will accuse me of being racist or some such label. I assure you, I was an active opponent of illegals prior to that too.
The point I was making though, each incident is different, and unless you are standing in their shoes, you have no right to judge.
I try not to be rude; but if you say woe-per when you are trying to repeat my order back to me, I will say English soft o sounds like Spanish a in padre, it is whopper.
The manager at the particular restaurant I hit about once a week quickly scoots over to handle me because in over a year the girl I have quietly and continually corrected has never changed her pronunciation from 'woe-per.'
I have to admit one of us is being an ass.