The true story of JT as told by ST.
JT came to the US illegally from Mexico when he was 16yrs old. His older brother gave him a job and JT started saving money and making a life for himself in his new home.
The years passed and JT found himself in love with a girl. At the tender age of 20, JT married his sweetheart and the couple set up house in a family home they were able to purchase using money that both JT and his wife had worked for and saved - even tho they had to borrow the down payment from a relative.
A couple of years passed and the couple welcomed their first child into the world - a handsome son named VT. In order to do the very best by his child and afford him with every opportunity a parent wishes to bestow on their offspring, JT and his wife begin the process of filing for JT's permanent residency applications and work authorization. It wasn't a cheap or easy process, but they again borrowed the rest of the money that they couldn't come up with themselves and sent the applications and fees to the nearest INS office.
Weeks passed and the first notice to arrive by mail was a receipt for payment and notice that the applications were being processed. JT was very happy to know that he was well on his way to living his American dream. More weeks passed and another notice came in the mail.
APPLICATION DENIED
No explaination. No monies (thousands) refunded. JT has no criminal history. JT has a job. JT doesn't depend on anybody. JT was trying to do the right thing that everyone said he should. JT was trying to regulate his situation since he was able whereas he wasn't before. Now, JT has to hire an immigration attorney and pay $7K more for the attorney to work his case - again with no assurances. JT doesn't have $7K. JT just spent all the money he had on the first round of denials.
JT is no better off now, after attempting to do the 'right thing', than he was before he started. JT isn't a legal permanent resident. JT isn't a citizen. JT isn't even in the running for either of those titles. The only thing JT is...is a couple of thousand dollars poorer and a lot more leery of the US government.
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Something is not right with our Immigration system and it needs to be fixed.
you find your story, this so called JT broke the law and married a delusional bitch. So everyone, pity the fool.
Then she disrespects Americans who are doing it right as seen here.
Usually immigrants file for citizenship *before* they waltz on over here. The title of this article is grossly misleading.
In America, if you commit a crime but do not get caught, it does not count...so, JT goes home, a romance could then easily unfold into marriage, and he legally gets into America. What JT and his wife are wanting now, is to just ignore his criminal activity....DEPORT HIM, they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
I don't think you'd say that a bank robber should go free because he was poor and lived in the ghetto, or would you? Because he's poor he has a right to break the law to get what he needs, according to you, right?
What kind of a poppycock excuse is that?
It is difficult for me to see the logic in the comparison you have made. Crossing the boarder so you get a job, and work long hours, for little pay, is hardly the same thing as robbing a bank.
If they can't afford to feed their children, they should not be having children! I decided a long time ago that I could not afford to raise a child without having to work 2 jobs so I don't have any. That solves the poor starving child excuse!
WE ARE THEIR SUPPORT SYSTEM, they come here so that AMERICANS can pay for their desire to have LARGE FAMILIES....trust me, those two statistics are not accidents.
Scenario:
I've worked at least two jobs at all times since I was 15 years old. I grew up, got married and found myself struggling, so I met with a career counselor. The counselor advised me that since I was pretty savvy with computers, I should go to college and get a degree in computer science. This would lead me to higher paying jobs and a better life for my destitute family.
I scrape the money together, I borrow from family, I even manage a student loan. I work incredibly hard, meet all the requirements and graduate with honors. I eagerly anticipate my new found financial freedoms. I know that my hard work and honest nature will pay off for me.
So, I borrow some more money, sacrfice the last of my savings and pack up my family. We move to San Diego where I have applied and been interviewed for an excellent IT position. There are 25 openings and more than 900 applicants, but I'm not worried. I have an excellent work history, a fine resume and a blemish free background check. Besides, I have family in the company.
I am turned down for the position. No explanation, no real reason, just a short phone message that thanks me for my time and tells me the positions have all been filled. It does, encourage me to re-apply for the next round, but makes no guarantees on my eventual hire.
Am I now entitled to a refund from the career counselor? My moving expenses? The plane ticket I bought to go for the interview? Does the company owe me something more than the message they left? Shall I hire a lawyer and fight the decision? Shouldn't that lawyer be pro bono for me because the hiring practices of the company are obviously unfair? Aren't I entitled to SOMETHING after all I've been through to get this job?
Would I be any more entitled if I worked out a deal with HR and actually showed up, working the job at half wage, until the decision was made to hire me for real?
Was yours, WW? Was that the last job you're qualified for on this green Earth? Can you never, ever again get a job because you were turned down for that one?
Poor comparison and I'm sure you see that now.
Where is my tiny violin when I need it, drats.
I have a hard time having sympathy for someone who brings misery upon themself.
Everyone wants us to be politically correct, everyone wants to rail against someone like myself that just lays the CARDS ON THE TABLE....what kind of a moron comes to America ILLEGALLY, and proceeds to pop out (on average) 3.2 babies? They do it, because they think those babies will give them an ANCHOR, thus the term ANCHOR BABIES. They play on it....please, please don't deport us, you'll BREAK UP OUR FAMILIES, what will happen to my BABIES. IT's FREAKING DELIBERATE....women nine months PREGNANT making a perilous journey across the desert or paying a coyote to smuggle her across so she can drop a load, another ANCHOR BABY on our National door stoop. Then looks up at us and says....you can't DEPORT ME, my baby is AMERICAN.
ICE nabs 127 in early morning raid
By Fernando Quintero, Rocky Mountain News
September 20, 2006
Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrested 127 suspected illegal immigrants this morning at an Aurora construction site, possibly the largest immigration raid in state history.
About 70 agents from as far away as California surrounded the site on Buckley Air Force Base at 5:30 a.m., according to a contractor.
The agents loaded the men they arrested onto three buses, and they were taken away to be processed. The contractor said an agent told him the raid had been planned for three months.
Agents were lined up every 50 feet around the perimeter of the site, which has only one entrance and one exit. The agents took away the workers' cell phones. They told the subcontractors that they faced fines if it's determined they hired undocumented workers. The men who were arrested could be deported as early as today, the contractor said.
The workers were building military housing on the base. Some family members arrived at the construction site, panicked at the possibility a loved one would be deported.
Porgie, remember previous post on this board about how "ICE won't do anything" etc, etc.? I think the illegals in this article were thinking the same thing this morning! Ooops!
I have two things to say....
1) Two wrongs never make a right.
2) If what you say IS true, then sadly, you have missed an opportunity to present yourself as the 'bigger person'.
Let's see now...they were doing jobs Americans won't do...hmm, I don't know too many Americans not willing to be carpenters, brick layers, roofers, etc.!
First thing that sent ALARM BELLS off to me, was ILLEGALS working on a MILITARY BASE! Talk about a risk to National Security.
Secondly, as you properly point out, since when did Americas cease wanting jobs in construction? Especially on a project on a military base where they are supposedly REQUIRED to pay prevailing wages. Let's hope that every one of these people is deported...I only wish that ICE had kept a few agents at the base to gather up those family members as stragglers...further, lets hope they follow up this big raid with lots of LITTLE ones wherever these men LIVE.
GREAT NEWS...let people like snobia keep thinking our government has not changed its policy on this.
You tell them H. G.! They are all over the construction business here, that is precisely why my S.O. lost his job almost a month ago! 430,000 estimated illegals in this state alone. We ain't got that many fruits and vegetables!
Senobia...sweetheart go back to sleep! You have nothing to worry about since ICE doesn't do it's job.
Our boys would like their jobs back, we gotta eat too you know.
And if the US had more law abiding employers, you would have more law abiding employees.
It's not the "big companies" that people should be overly concerned with because that's not where the bulk of the illegal immigrants are working. It's in the obscure, Mom and Pop places. But I mean hitting the big companies give the illusion of INS doing its job so...carry on.
The fact remains that there are always going to be jobs that need doing and there's always going to be someone willing to do them.
Come here legally, then the first thing SNOBIA tells us, is that this MAN came here ILLEGALLY. After being here for four years, he TRIED to become LEGAL....give us a break, that man was and is ILLEGAL, has broken our laws. I hope they throw the proverbial BOOK AT HIM, then deport his butt...that happens, the earliest he can apply to re-enter is ten years out.
As for those small MOM AND POP places....one of the small Mom and Pop places here is CLOSING ITS DOORS...why...the illegals that kept it in business are disappearing.
more. Lost a great paying job last year in the cleaning business because of this... I noticed one day a foreigner and within a weeks time They're were 12 or 13 atleast
being hired on when we did not need them to clean cabins here in TN... East TN has a booming tourism business, Unfortunately the mexicans are coming here for them now. Money that would be going back into TN economy is now going to Mexico.
now thats a constructive idea....Maybe you should move to Afganistan or Iraq because with an attitude like that you don't belong in America. I actually have alot of ideas. Education programs in Mexico and South American countries to help people better themselves so they can get better jobs and don't need to come here to begin with. Incentive programs for companies who open plants/factories in these countries to help eleviate unemployment. Registration of illegal immigrants already in this country with background checks of criminal history. The problem is not that these people are here but why they came in the first place.
Can you HEAR me.
So, who do you plan on having pay for all of that? You gonna do it? It all sounds nice, but none of your ideas are practical either. You didn't say who was going to carry them out. Happy little fluffy ideas though, useless, but happy and fluffy!
BTW, you don't need to make nasty, childish, personal comments towards me just because you have nothing productive to say.
http://www.wehirealiens.com/
It may not be about a refund, tho that is certainly it in part, by your own writing. It is, however, certainly about entitlement and sympathy. I have the sympathy. I just don't see how this case is any more special than the one I noted above. Sure, he only has one agency to go through. (By my moving my entire family to San Diego for ONE job, I have also limited myself! BTW, that wasn't a real scenario. I'd never jump without having a place to land. Hint, hint.) He can repeat the process in perpetuity if he so desires. He can hire said 7K lawyer. He isn't out of options any more than I would be as the actual job applicant in the scenario above.
And just as I have other companies to apply to, Mr. JT has other countries as well.
It's a sad story, Senobia, but it doesn't change the right and wrong of it. You roll the dice, you takes your chances. Possibly a different plan, long ago, may have yielded better results for him. I'm sorry Mr. JT lost his gamble. But in his losing, some other "alien" won.
By your (et al) ranting and raving, demands, hollering, kicking, screaming, and making a complete and total ass of yourself in the process....has anything changed?
As one illegal immigrant been deported just because you say they all need to be?
Are your words, whines, rants, and tirades being at all effective in accomplishing your goal (having them deported)?
I didn't think so.
Perhaps not, but neither have your rants made any of them any more legal. But that's not your goal - I hope all of this is getting you closer to that Barnes and Noble giftcard.
I don't recall making any nasty comments to you...other than comparing your mentallity to that of a terrorist when you think the public hangings of illegal immigrants is the answer to the immigration problems in this country. As far as where the money would come from to fund these programs...the United States as well as many of its citizens is/are the richest country in the world...we always manage to find money where there is supposedly none to be found.....how about getting out of Iraq....it would only take a small portion of the money we are wasting there fund the programs I mentioned.
"If he can afford to buy a house, he can afford to pay an attorney. Very few legal citizens in the U.S. can afford to buy a house at the age of 20 and support a kid! But then again, legal citizens have to pay taxes and pay for their own health care costs so that's probably why. "
Letter to Colorado DA's
As you may know, Jefferson County District Attorney Scott Storey recently sought and obtained indictments against several individuals who obtained loans for illegal aliens using false identity documents, employment information, and credit histories. The transactions in this initial indictment involved loans for more then thirty homes totaling nearly $7 million.
The scheme that District Attorney Storey has uncovered is not confined to Jefferson County. According to several recent news reports, it is rampant and widespread. CNN recently reported that some $16 million in fraudulent loans have been uncovered in Denver – and at least one government source told The Denver Post that around 20,000 illegal immigrants hold Federal Housing Administration loans in the Denver Metro Area alone.
In Kansas City, two individuals recently plead guilty to securing more than twenty federally backed loans for illegal aliens, and in Utah illegal aliens purchased nearly ninety homes costing the government almost $3 million.
These statistics are troubling – perhaps more troubling, they are likely only the tip of the iceberg. These fraudulent loans lead to increased foreclosures which affects all homeowners. Worse still, this practice allows countless individuals in the country illegally to establish false identities in homeownership. This poses a threat to national security that is not insignificant.
District Attorney Storey has taken an important first step in Colorado in cracking down on crooked elements in the real estate industry that are putting profits before patriotism. I hope that you will consider taking similar steps in your jurisdiction to actively investigate and prosecute unscrupulous individuals who are putting all of us at risk by engaging in this dishonest, illegal, and unfortunately lucrative practice.
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Sincerely,
/s/
Tom Tancredo, M.C.
http://tancredo.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc.pl?BLOG,co06_tancredo,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20found,ID=060905_0017,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml
Moggy,
Fraudulant "Federally" insured mortgages...who do you think is going to pay for that in the end?!
RECENT FRUIT AND VEGE PICKERS, CHOSE TO WORK IN CONSTRUCTION VS BEING PICKERS FOR 12.85 PER HR VS 6.35 PER HOUR.
MY STRICT AND PERHAPS HARSH VIEWS WILL NOT CHANGE THE PROBLEM IS MASSIVELY OUT OF HAND. WHEN YOU HAVE A LEAK IN YOUR ROOF YOU PATCH THE LEAK TO STOP THE WATER COMING IN FIRST. THE SAME WITH THE BORDER IT NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY CLOSED AND A TIME OUT FOR ALL IMMIGRATION, UNTIL THE PRESENT POPULACE IS ASSMILATED + ENGLISH ONLY!!! NO MEDICAID, NO SOCIAL SECURITY, NO FREE TUITION, OR LOWER TUITION, NO NOTHING. ILLEGALS NEED TO BE REMOVED TO COUNTRY OF ORIGIN. I AM NOT PAYING A DIME FOR ILLEGALS FOOD, ANCHOR BABIES, AND OTHER NEEDS. THE AVG ILLEGAL WILL COST TAX PAYERS 90,000.00 IN THEIR LIFETIME FOR EACH ILLEGAL!
THE AMNESTY BILL WOULD COST 125 BILLION AND IT IS THE DEMOCRATS WHO WANT OPEN/NO BORDERS. ON CINCO DE MAYO/5 MAY 06, I REGISTERED AS A REPUBLICAN DUE TO PRO ILLEGAL DEMOCRATS. NO MORE ILLEGALS, NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES, NO MORES POPULATION POLLUTION!
You seem awfully hateful towards your own neighbors, Debbie. Just because someone's fallen on hard times and needs assistance doesn't mean they're abusing the system. That money is in the budget for them. Yeah, some people abuse welfare. Big deal. That doesn't mean they haven't paid into it or that won't ever work again during their life.
There is a saying inscribed on the Statue of Liberty that say "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." What do you think this means?
As others have pointed out, most of our descendants are immigrants. Unless you are a native american, you do not really "belong" here.
So is this a case of "I'm in, now close the door"? What ever happened to caring about your fellow human being? Do you think people sneak across the border for the adventure of it? They are often hungry, poor, and desperate.
How many of you collect disability checks? What if I say to you "Hey, get a freakin' job!" You are living off the rest of us.
Where is your heart? The forefathers imagined this country as a refuge for the needy, the hungry, the oppressed.
You guys make me sick.
You both should go back to his country and try to make it the place to be...so that, someday, Mexico has a problem with illegal immigration and can't seem to find a way to keep out the nasty Americans without erecting a fence and employing thousands of border patrol agents.
Yeah, our people won't do jobs like...Framing, Roofing, Brick Laying, Flatwork, Landscaping, Custodial, Warehouse, Factories, Fast Food, Auto Service, Catering (aka "roach coach"), and Restaurant work, not to mention ski resorts and the like...Noooo! why, us Americans would NEVER stoop to THOSE levels! C'mon Clare! Get real!
HG, I've seen this with my own eyes. For some odd reason there's a MAJOR construction boom on the Gulf Coast. There simply ARE NOT ENOUGH workers to get the job done down here. A year after Ivan, six months after Katrina, people are STILL waiting with blue FEMA tarps across their rooves because you can't find a roofer to hire. Enter a whole lot of illegal and migratory (predominantly hispanic) aliens.
If there were citizens available for hire in these jobs, trust me, they'd have been hired LONG before the influx we've seen over the last year.
However, this argument has been done to death and will get no one anywhere. Until both sides of the issue calm down and come to the table with a little logic and reason, checking the tired rhetoric at the door, this problem continue to grow until the border is not only invisible, but is a moot point altogether.
I understand what you are saying. However, the reason for the shortage of American workers in the construction field is the fact that illegals are taking those jobs at substandard wages, and greedy contractors are willing to hire them to increase their bottom line. The construction trade used to require a person to learn his skills by first being an apprentice for a couple of years. After fulfilling his apprenticeship, he would become a skilled tradesman, and after that a journeyman. Needless to say this took quite a few years to accomplish and a person could earn a decent wage (middle income) for himself and his family. Now, enter the illegal who sneaks across the border with his hammer and will work for less pay than even an apprentice (low income). The American worker can't live on such wages because he doesn't live with 29 other people in a single family dwelling, he doesn't get free medical care for himself or his family, and he doesn't get any public assitance monies - nor would he want to. So, he LEAVES his country to go to places like Iraq in order to sustain his current standard of living for himself and his family. Now, I must ask you, how far do we as Americans have to go for the sake of allowing millions of illegal trespassers to raise their standard of living? What would you give up? Would you give up your job? Would you lower your standard of living? Would you leave your country to seek employment so illegal trespassers can have yours? How much are you willing to give up? This is not only happening in skilled trades jobs but also in the corporate world as well. Companies are hiring people from all over the world to run their companies and many will "lay off" the current work force (Americans),only to bring in their foriegn cronies to re-fill those positions. Again, How far do we go?