I posted an article about what people thought about feminism and of course the responses are far more interesting than the article. You gotta read them - you just gotta:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created egual. That they are endowed by their creator with certain uninalienabe rights. That among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
I am going to agree with this proclamation by the framers of our constitution.
I would replace for the word "men" with its more inclusive counterpart--"humans".
Patricia, It's just amazingly silly to think of the female to be "sub-human" or "inferior human" - and it feels like that's what they mean when they say "men" like that - even though many of our founding fathers had very strong and influential women for wives and should have been more thoughtful.
I have never really understood what Feminism is so I will have to check out your article in a little while when I get to it. I'm all for learning something new. :D
What is that saying "first it is fought, then it is ridiculed, then it is accepted?". Feminism had to be hard-core because the women had a lot of opposition and had to fight hard to get any further forward. That some of the comments mixed up the fight for equal rights and social and economic freedom to choose with 'women becoming men' and the poor men just get beaten up is, well, just the way it goes.
I remember one ex-school mate running into me at the supermarket and asking me what subjects I was taking at uni - I told him I was doing literature and art, and oh a women in western society subject. He, aghast, asked me if I was one of "those feminists". I said yes, and he said (seriously!) "why, do you hate babies?"
I asked him what he was doing and he had joined the army. I bit my tongue and didn't say "why, do you hate people?"
I am a feminine woman, does that make me a feminist? lol. I always thought that movement was quite silly, and I haven't read the other article, but I will, but the reason I thought that was whether or not anyone thinks about it or not, women if they are even a little smart, are the ones that set the tone on what goes on in their families and sometimes I think what goes on in our government. Not right out front, but from behind the scenes. I think Hillary was president for eight years already, Now I will go read the other article and see why I am wrong, but every man's best friend was his mother, and then his wife, what more do women need unless they feel inferior and then oh well.
Interesting post and interesting comments, Peter. I especially like the comment you made clarifying chivalry, that it's the strong submitting to the weak (so a young woman giving up her bus seat to a old man). I really enjoyed reading your initial post as well because, as a woman who wants to do big things with her life, I love the history of feminism. Actually, on MPR this morning Kerri Miller's guest was Gloria Steinem, and I just posted a discussion relating to feminism focused on Steinem, and I'd love your input in the discussion. Here's the link.
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I am going to agree with this proclamation by the framers of our constitution.
I would replace for the word "men" with its more inclusive counterpart--"humans".
Patricia, It's just amazingly silly to think of the female to be "sub-human" or "inferior human" - and it feels like that's what they mean when they say "men" like that - even though many of our founding fathers had very strong and influential women for wives and should have been more thoughtful.
I remember one ex-school mate running into me at the supermarket and asking me what subjects I was taking at uni - I told him I was doing literature and art, and oh a women in western society subject. He, aghast, asked me if I was one of "those feminists". I said yes, and he said (seriously!) "why, do you hate babies?"
I asked him what he was doing and he had joined the army. I bit my tongue and didn't say "why, do you hate people?"
Interesting post and interesting comments, Peter. I especially like the comment you made clarifying chivalry, that it's the strong submitting to the weak (so a young woman giving up her bus seat to a old man). I really enjoyed reading your initial post as well because, as a woman who wants to do big things with her life, I love the history of feminism. Actually, on MPR this morning Kerri Miller's guest was Gloria Steinem, and I just posted a discussion relating to feminism focused on Steinem, and I'd love your input in the discussion. Here's the link.