I ask you all to help me in supporting prayer in the school of this great county. Our nation's kids, especially the Moslem youths and other heratics, need the Power of Our Lord in their lives. They need to be shown the right path to salvetion.
My wife home schools our kids because I don't want them in those godless, liberal classrooms with lesbian teachers pushing their homesexual agenda. There are CPS agents in all the countrys schools waiting to steal our childrens and adopt them to gay couples. If their was prayer in the schools, and the school bords purged all the liberal-satanic staff maybe I would send my kids back.
Help Americas kids and support prayer in school. Kids need to know the Power of Our Lord Jesus. We are one nation, Under God. NOT ONE NATION UNDER LESBIAN PAGAN DIETIES!!!
I have to go, my wife is sick again with some woman thing.
<center>Religious Freedom Amendment</center><center><hr width="100%"></center>
Rep. Ernest Istook and more than 100 House members have introduced the "Religious Freedom Amendment" to the U.S. Constitution. The proposed constitutional Amendment would permit but not mandate school prayer and other religious expression on public property.
The proposed amendment reads as follows:
<center> "To secure the people's right to acknowledge God according to the dictates of conscience: The people's right to pray and to recognize their religious belief, heritage or traditions on public property, including schools, shall not be infringed. The government shall not require any person to join in prayer or other religious activity, initiate or designate school prayers, discriminate against religion, or deny equal access to a benefit on account of religion."</center>Reasons for the amendment:
Thirty years of public opinion polls show that more than 75% of Americans support a constitutional amendment to protect voluntary school prayer. Now is the time we carry out the wishes of the American people.
Under the guise of promoting tolerance, religious expression is being singled out for censorship. The supreme court has broadened Americans' First Amendment free speech rights in many controversial ways, but it has pushed back our free speech rights when it involves religion. We wouldn't need a constitutional amendment, except that un-elected judges have changed the Constitution for us, by-passing the public and its elected representatives. This is our only way to change it back; it's our peaceful answer to the religious intolerance shown by activists who constantly sue to suppress religious expression.
When will a vote take place:
House Judiciary hearings are expected to place this summer and a vote on the Religious Freedom Amendment is anticipated in the fall. A constitutional amendment must pass by two-thirds in the House and Senate, and then be ratified by three-fourths of the nation's 50 states, with no approval or other role involving the President or the Governors.
Groups sponsoring the amendment include:
- American Conference of Jews and Blacks
- American Family Association
- Americans For Voluntary School Prayer
- American Muslim Council
- Christian Action Network
- Christian Coalition
- Christian Voice
- Citizens for Excellence in Education
- Concerned Women for America
- Family Research Council
- Focus on the Family
- Free Congress Foundation
- General Council of the Assemblies of God
- International Pentecostal Church of Christ
- National Clergy Council
- National Association of Evangelicals
- Southern Baptist Convention
- Christian Life Commission
- Toward Tradition
- Traditional Values Coalition
- U.S. Family Network
- Wallbuilders
- William Murray Report
TALKING POINTS
Supporters have reached a consensus.
Supporters of a constitutional amendment to protect religious freedom have reached a consensus. The Religious Freedom Amendment (RFA) has the backing of numerous conservative and religious organizations, more than 100 cosponsors, both Republicans and Democrats, and House leadership.
The RFA would reverse trends of religious restriction
The RFA would reverse trends of suppressing religious expression, including student-initiated prayers in public schools. The RFA retains the First Amendment's intent that government should not control nor compel religion in America, but should accommodate it the same as other forms of speech.
The RFA would allow student-sponsored prayer, but prohibit government from composing prayers or compelling . anyone to join in prayer.
The RFA would allow student-sponsored prayer in public schools, but explicitly prohibits government from composing prayers on their behalf, and from compelling anyone to join in prayer. The extent to which prayers may be involved in a school activity would no longer be different than any other free speech issue, so long as government is simply permitting what students desire, rather than compelling them
It also assures that no student is required to join in any such activity. But a single objector (or a small number) could no longer censor the religious speech of the other students, so long as they are not compelled to join in such speech. Likewise, a large group of students could not censor the religious speech of a smaller number. Current court decisions have created a "freedom from hearing" that improperly supplants "freedom of speech". The RFA follows the same standard which the U.S. Supreme Court has applied to the Pledge of Allegiance: No student is compelled to participate, but they are not permitted to silence their classmates simply because they disagree.
Polls show the public supports a constitutional amendment for voluntary school prayer.
Public opinion polls throughout the last 30 years show three-fourths of the American public overwhelmingly support a constitutional amendment to allow voluntary prayer in public schools, and otherwise protect religious liberties from court intrusion.
Government regulation of religious freedoms go far beyond prayer in school
Government regulation of religious liberties has gone far beyond prayer in school. San Francisco was ordered to take down a cross that had stood in a city park for 63 years. The courts have upheld a zero given to a Tennessee student on her research paper because she chose the life of Jesus as her topic; the U.S. Postal Service has ordered "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Hanukkah" signs removed from post offices; Edmond, Oklahoma and Stow, Ohio have been forced to revise their city seals, removing crosses which reflected religious heritage of the communities. (More such suits are expected re: state and city seals, flags, etc.) The Internal Revenue Service has banned religious items from workers' personal desktop areas, calling them "intrusive" and directly equating them with sexually explicit material.
Religious Freedom Facts
In 1985 our nation's Supreme Court overturned a moment of silence
law because it gave students the opportunity to pray silently.
Wallace V. Jaffrees overturned the law of Alabama.
Recent examples of infringements of religious liberties include:
- The Supreme Court upheld a zero given to a Tennessee student on her research paper because she could choose a topic of her choice, and chose the life of Christ.
- The Ohio Court of Appeals stopped Cleveland's school voucher program which provided 2,000 disadvantaged children with publicly-funded cash vouchers. The program permitted parents to choose a better school for their child, and the court said it was unconstitutional because they might pick a parochial school.
- An Alabama court has forbidden the display of the Ten Commandments in a courtroom, even though it reflects the origins of much of our law.
- The Supreme Court agrees with a lawsuit forcing San Francisco to remove a cross which had been in a public park for 65 years.
- The Supreme Court upholds a lower court decision forcing the city of Edmond, Oklahoma, to remove a cross from among the emblems on its city seal.
- School graduations are commonly threatened by those who want to ban religious references. In Lee v. Weisman (1992) the offering of a prayer by Rabbi Leslie Gutterman was declared unconstitutional because it was "psychological coercion" to expect others simply to listen respectfully.
- A Nativity scene at a courthouse was declared unconstitutional in 1989 in Allegheny v. Pittsburgh ACLU.
- The Equal Employment Opportunities Commission had to be stopped by the 103rd Congress, after it published proposed new federal regulations to restrict religious discussions in the workplace, by on-the-job employees.


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Prayer in schools? WHERE I GO THERE WILL BE PRAYER BECAUSE I'M GONNA PRAY!!!
Because if MY FAITH, and MY CONFIDENCE in MY BELIEFS, nothing's going to get to me. The average person (Lesbian, straight, gay, Christian, Muslim, married, single, male, female, black, white or whatever) doesn't want to make everyone else like them, I think you may be a bit paranoyed. HAVE FAITH in your beliefs, and your family will live free. Some may feel the way you do, but not everyone. I am not going to start a petition to outlaw women from changing their names upon marriage, for example, just because I think taking a man's name is a sexist tradition. That is MY BELIEF, and if it's not yours, I can AND WILL respect it!!!
From what I've read above, you DID what was right for you, and your intentions are honourable. Please keep praying for what YOU believe in. God touches people in mysterious ways.
Again, if I am in a public school, there will be prayer in that school, because I'M GONNA PRAY!!! I won't push my prayer on everyone else, and expect them to worship as I do, but damnit, I'M GONNA PRAY!!!!!
Better still, CATHOLIC school?
I'm sure glad there are organizations like the ACLU to keep your kind from ruining america.
"I ask you all to help me in supporting prayer in the school of this great county. Our nation's kids, especially the Moslem youths and other heratics, need the Power of Our Lord in their lives. They need to be shown the right path to salvetion."
Uhhhh I think I heard the jihadists saying exactly the same thing just a few minutes ago. Do you see a pattern here?
Yeah guess where you can stick your amendment. I'll stick with the 1st amendment!
Yeah guess where you can stick your amendment...
Emmet and pals - you will be very hot for eternitey
That is not an insult, but an observation based on fact:
- He thinks only HIS religion ought to be mandated on American schools.
- All OTHER faiths to him are HERETICAL.
- He has no apologies for he believes all others to be WRONG or MISINFORMED.
Bob J. = BIGOT.
And if your children are homeschooled, I pray -- yes, I said it, I PRAY -- that your wife is better at spelling and writing than you are.
There ya go, promulgating that right wing christian fundamentalist agenda. Fortunately, we still have the Constitution -- I think -- and so your cause is doomed to failure.
Please,can anybody develop a cause-effect chain for me to understand the above?
My friends and neighbors include fellow Christians, non-religious people, many Jews, a few Buddhists, the occasional Hindu, at least one Shintoist, Muslims ... I empathize with their desire not to have their children forced to say the Lord's Prayer. After all, do you want yours davening? If prayer in school were applied equitably, the minority Christian child in my city would say Buddhist prayers in some public schools and Jewish ones at others. The problem is not that non-Christian children are no longer forced to say a Christian prayer, but that other universal values were removed from the schools.
There are countries where prayer of the favored religion is required in school--and Christian children suffer for it.
I have to agree that your spelling and grammar leave much to be desired and I hope your home-schooled kids are doing better.
Charles, I apologize deeply if any of my misguided ancestors participated in taking revenge on Jews for killing Jesus. Those who did/do that fail to understand some basic truths and are most likely not true Christiansof the heart as opposed to just culturally Christian-oriented. Jesus died because he chose to take on himself the punishment *I* deserve for *my* sins. He and God the Father agreed to this in eernity past, before ever the world was formed an humankind created. So who is responsible for Jesus' death?
1. I am, because my sins nailed him to the cross.
2. The Almighty is, for deciding to sacrifice him in order to save lost people, including me.
3. He himself is, for choosing to sacrifice himself in my place.
In no case can I find cause to blame any particular group of people who have no interest in him. Certainly not when pointing the first finger at myself.I am the sinner who knows that I am without hope without a savior, and that Jesus is the one. How can I blame another? True Christians have always understood this.
No school has ever stopped a child from silent and inward prayer. God hears it. Jesus said that when we pray, we should enter into our closets rather than make a public display, and the God who sees in secret rewards openly. Why do you want to make a public show of it? Do you remember what Jesus said about the Pharisees who made a public show of their prayers?
Please do not denigrate all public school teachers as lesbians. My late husband was as true-hearted a Christian gentleman you would ever want to meet, and a deacon. He read the BIble and prayed at home daily and encouraged our hosting a Bible study. he participated in church ministries and gave generously. He went to a well-known Bible college in his youth, before his Viet Nam era draft number got too high and he served. I assure you he was straight!
And he was a public school teacher. You owe him and many others of his kind an apology.
I do agree also that prayer should be acknowledge in schools,however there should be no picking and choosing which religions are right and which ones are wrong.You have to respect religion as a whole and this may sound insane coming from me but even the respect of the athiest body would be in order.Great article I agree and disagree with some of your points (I.E. CPS is there waiting to take our children to adopt them out to some lesbian couple.I disagree)
"My wife is sick with some woman thing" I am sick with your post. Please, God, let this be satire!
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I can see no valid reason why all people should not be able to co-exist in a classroom for 6 hours a day.
and they say prayer does not belong in schools.
In fact, my Grandfather + Uncles were leaders
who stopped an attempt by my school pricipal
to defy the law & bring prayers back to my school.
I was taught don't let devil from another faith to
corrupt your childrens morals or faith.
I would rather spend life in prison than have
someone from another ATTEMPT to teach my
children religion, morals, or leading my
children in prayer.
I'm not quite sure if any of you have bothered to take a look at the bill of rights. It protects not only the right to religion, but the right to ABSTAIN from religion. I apologize if you think the United States is a theocracy and there is only one religion in the country, but you are wrong. It is not a right of any of yours to impose your views on a student like me.
Religious people have always used the bible as an exuse to discriminate against blacks, women, now homosexual or anyone different. Your stupidity may lead you to prejudice, but it is not your right to make the next generation as bigotted as supporters of school prayer are.
I will leave you with one last note.
DON'T PRAY IN MY SCHOOL; I WON'T THINK IN YOUR CHURCH.
Obviously none of you are thinking anyway. I'm sick and tired of close minded people like you who thinks you are the rulers of the world.
Tomorrow you're all gonna wake up in a brave new world. A world where the constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist clones created in a stem cell research lab run by homosexual doctors who sterilize their instruments over burning American flags. Where tax and spend Democrats take all your hard earned money and use it to buy electric cars for National Public Radio and teach evolution to illegal immigrants. Oh, and everybody is high! Whoooo.
The scary thing is many people in this forum feel this way seriously.
Our Founding Fathers were not all Christian as many in the Right would like you to believe. They wanted to ensure that all people were able to have freedom, and do as they wish, without having anyone control them. The entire reason that our country was even first colonized was due to escaping a church from controlling daily lives. These extremists are no better than the muslims in all honesty they are just doing it differently. We cannot allow them to control this country and control us.
You can say I will burn, or whatever you want, that is fine. The entire fact is that I have my own beliefs, I have studied Christianity, and think there are many good teachings in it. The perverted twist that the Right has put on it has corrupted it, and I do not want to follow a religion that expresses nothing more that hatred and intolerance. This is no better than living in the Middle East.
Let me ask you a question, you are talking about "religious liberties" out of one side of you mouth, and out of the other you want to cram your religion down the throat of Jews, Muslims, Athesists and the like. That is restricting their religious liberties. What about the civil liberties that you want to restrict of gays and lesbians, and other groups who you disagree with? Seems like you know that the Right is not liked anymore for controlling our country for the last 6 years and we are much worse off now than before, so you are trying to appear as the victims in this entire conflict. YOU and the rest of the Right are no longer the vicitims, you have all been the problem, and America told you all that we are done with the "path" that you have chosen, and want to go our own way, and that just burns you all up, doesn't it?
You can cry that you are discriminate against, but the rest of us see through it. We don't care anymore and we are going to follow what is best for the citizens of this nation, not just your special interest group. So keep on yelling at the rest of us, all you are doing is making us realize we made the best chioce for the well being of our nation.