Stay Informed on Healthcare

Let everyone who wants genuine dialog attend these meetings! That is a boon to democracy.

Let those who would disrupt (and this is proven by leaked memos, not just asserted) stay home.

This is too important an issue for any faction to hijack. We need thoughtful, truthful information.

I TOTALLY agree with you, Debra!

Now youv've gone and done it... you've surprised me. I'd've expected you to be defending the footstompers and screamers. After all, didn't WE (libruls) do the same, back in th' day?

Underestimated me, did ya? lol... Yep, that's what assumptions often do... And yes, that is a lib tactic as well, however, bringing it up serves no good purpose for anyone..........

NO admission to any Town hall, GOP or DEM unless valid ID is provided to prove one lives in the district where the function is being held! No stooges or disrupters from outside should be allowed on the property! That is the ONLY fair way to conduct the functions!

Lafferty believes President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have been surprised by the level of anger being directed toward their policies. People are saying 'no' and they've pushed the president back on his heels"

If that's what Lafferty believes, he's in for a HUGE disappointment. The President, Pelosi, Reid, et al, know full well that what we've been seeing IS, in fact, "manufactured outrage."

Charles, Charles, Charles.

Once again you prove that you are nothing more than a shill for the special interest. Tell me how much are they paying you to repeat the bullshit and the lies of the health industry economic terrorists?

WHAT is the absolute obsession with ACORN? I see it EVERYWHERE, especially in places where it makes no sense to be mentioned.

Go, State.

Gary;

Charles has a great track record. Whatever the issue is, he's on the wrong side of it.

Gary, that's just silly. Robert isn't the enemy here. And neither am I.
It may surprise you to know I also do not think you are 'the enemy' here.

The enemy is the one who has made us think we are each other's enemies; and that is not the Insurance Companies or the Big Banks or .... whoever the "enemy of the day" is at any given moment in time. :(


Gary Wilson Aug 8, 2009, 5:00pm EDT
Charles, Charles, Charles.

Once again you prove that you are nothing more than a shill for the special interest. Tell me how much are they paying you to repeat the bullshit and the lies of the health industry economic terrorists?

Chuck, what obama, pelosi and reid DO know is that thus far, they have the legislative numbers to shut down any one that doesn't agree with their agendas and then pass what they want regardless of any American outcries to the contrary.......

"what obama, pelosi and reid DO know"... " shut down any one that doesn't agree with their agendas"

scary!

Don't forget your guns, your bull-horns & your scripts written by the health industry lobbyists.

Exactly right. The insurance industry is actually sending out "talking points" to these groups. Yelling and screaming points would be closer.

The insurance company is spending millions a dollar a day to fight reform. I suppose Bushbots think that is because they are benevolent creations.

When I was making my signs, I could have used some help with the physical work; but as for what to put on em; I had no problem with that and I have no need of anyone to coach me on it.

Yes I'm sure Obama can not figure how any one could disagree with him, as he thinks he is the supreme being. Pride goeth before a fall.

That's just dumb. As I recall, it was Bush who claimed he was closer to God than the rest of us. Usually when he wanted to start a war.

Call it dumb if that,s your opinion, but I really hope that is not what your calling God. You can have all you want of Obama!

what she is saying .. and I'll speak slowly so you understand .. Bush used the Patriot act to expand presidential powers. He wanted to set up what he himself called a "Unitarian authority" **whispering** that's a dictatorship.

Only people on the far edges of the fright wing refer to the president as the Messiah. Progressives don't have that illusion at all. It's what they say because they can't come up with any genuine ideas, and think that being shills for insurance companies is somehow noble.

Once again .... repasting an interesting note on messiahship ...

I . . . the times I've heard the term [messiah] from the right is when someone is describing, or mocking the way some on the left idolize him.

Of course you know that we know that most of you know he isn't really the, or even 'a' messiah, so I'm sure that explanation makes sense to you.

I know the truth doesn't lend itself to snarky humor (for either side) as much as the misrepresentation of it does .. but that's the way it is.

Then again ... there are those who do seem to take the messiah thing a bit more seriously than is advisable or even . . . healthy.

Like these two mmm... actually there are three in the post. But there are two who interact with each other - two who are far from right wing. Check out these three. And take a good look at the two who are talking to each other, if you are interested:

Promotion for Obama

Here is the address in case the link does not work:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977705701

In the first video, a familiar guy talking to others who are, or after the talk become, of the same frame of mind.

In the second video, the one says it ... and the other remarkably, agrees by saying, 'yes...' You'll see what I mean if you are interested in checking out the above page.



Ali Hussein Lopez Aug 9, 2009, 1:58pm EDT
Only people on the far edges of the fright wing refer to the president as the Messiah. Progressives don't have that illusion at all. It's what they say because they can't come up with any genuine ideas, and think that being shills for insurance companies is somehow noble.

There is an organized group called "Freedom Works" and Dick Armey is responsible for it. They are the ones who organized and promoted the "tea parties". They are not spontaneous displays of outrage but rather highly organized propaganda parties paid for by the lobbyists representing health insurance companies. This is NOT a grass roots effort as people would have you believe. There is big money behind it. Remember, the health insurance companies are paying $1.4 million a day to keep this bill from getting passed.

hence the reason I refer to the special interest as economic terrorists

Palin says health care reform is evil. I say cashing in your chips to go pander for the insurance carriers is evil. As is ignorance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/obama-addresses-outlandish-and-misleading-claims-about-health-reform-.html

Hmmm... what do you think of someone who does not cash in his chips but still panders?

White House Confirms Deal with Big Pharma . . .

White House spokesman Reid Cherlin confirmed that despite Thursday's uncertainty the deal outlined in the New York Times still stands.

Of course, as the White House acknowledges, senators are free to push for drug-price negotiations or reimportation, but they may have to do so without administration support and, certainly, in the face of Big Pharma opposition.

Several senators, including Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), pledged to go after PhRMA no matter what the White House said.

Julia Star Aug 8, 2009, 9:20pm EDT
Palin says health care reform is evil. I say cashing in your chips to go pander for the insurance carriers is evil. As is ignorance.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/obama-addresses-outlandish-and-misleading-claims-about-health-reform-.html

And it's funny, I didn't get an invite from this conservative group looking to kill health care reform by scaring people.

Me either. I wonder why?

and Charles - you're a bigger fool than I thought. If you're going to lobby for the economic terrorists, you should at least get paid for spreading their lies.

and buddy - I'm still waiting for that original thought.

Gary, Charles can't be a bigger fool than you thought. Why place those limits on your imagination?

what I'm saying that he is proud to support an enemy of the American people.

That's right I went there - the healthcare leeches have declared war on us by using fear, intimidation, deciet and division.

I am an Army veteran and took an oath to protect our country and it's citizens against all enemies foreign and domestic.

People we are at war - our health and financial well being are in jeopardy against a well organized and well oiled propoganda machine. These Bastards don't care if you're Democrat or Republican - do you honestly think they check your voter registration when denying or dropping your coverage.

The only way to win the battle is for all of us Democrat and Republican to stand united and say no to their lies and yes to a well thought out and PROPER reform

Gary, you have stated the facts of the threats honestly and intelligently! Now if others would cease with their political bias and mud slinging and EDUCATE themselves on facts instead, They might be a bit surprised at their own rising intelligence......

Gary you really are right.

This issue has brought out the worst in all of us - including me - so I apologize for being condescending.

so let's continue debating the facts

Thanks - and now to really piss everyone off -

did you know that the CEOs of the largest Healthcare companies make on average of 102,000 dollars an HOUR

maybe economic terrorist is a little harsh - how about profiteers:
They gouge our premiums, deny or drop our coverage, use your premiums to fund these artificial turf protests - which block ANY discussion from both sides of the aisle to address concerns with the hope of killing legislation and continue to have us by the short hairs. They produce these bullshit commercials to scare people into voting against their best interest.

So they pit Democrat against republican to rip each other and the country to pieces while they laugh their ass off in their 40 million dollar mansions - paid for by YOUR premiums

so if we're going to protest we should be jamming the boardrooms of these companies demanding a public option, affordable rates, total coverage, end the yearly and lifetime caps and no more denial of coverage or dropping clients when they get sick

Excellent point!

But instead of attacking the SOURCES of the crimes and the crisis, THEY (the truely guilty) cleverly keep us attacking each other and each other's political parties and views! Talk about a smoke screen!