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by Carol Lloyd
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Poll for the day question and Chat.....McCain/Obama Debate 10.07.2008

October 07, 2008 04:11 PM EDT
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Did you watch the McCain/Obama Debate tonight?  Who do you think scored best with the viewers? I will be here for a chat during the debate if you wish.  I will arrive here 30 min before the debate starts.  That will be 8:30pm EDT.

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Comments: 112

Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 4:12pm EDT
See all of you I hope during the debate
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 4:25pm EDT
I hope to check in I will be checking the debate out on PBS tonight. BTW I just checked my retirement account and I can't afford 4 more yrs of Bush or McCain who in my honest opinion who wants to do more of the same. America can't afford more of the same for that matter with declining home values, increasing govt. red ink and more corporate welfare.
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Lynn R. Oct 7, 2008, 4:28pm EDT
I heard today that McCain wants to debate on Character. Obama wants economy. We'll see how McCain avoids the questions like his running mate is quilty of. I'll be watching and will try to get back on here as soon as possible. :)
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@**Phyllis**@ @ Mom of 2 boys@ Oct 7, 2008, 4:41pm EDT
Brian
I cant afford to have Obama get in and give more of my money to people who do not want to work for a living..
Hey what happened to the Cubs? : )
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Rosa See Ya Oct 7, 2008, 4:48pm EDT
Definately will be watching but won't get to be online. I will watch with Hubby on CSPAN. I look for Obama to body slam McCain without even laying a hand on him. McCain wants to turn the page because he doesn't feel confident. Obama has the highest electorical polling so his confidence is sky high. I just hope McCain doesn't lose his temper because this is, after all, a town meeting in close quarters. I'm guessing he might call Obama a jerk, like he did to that voter who asked a hard question, but his surrogates say he plans to laugh off all the rhetoric.
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Carla G. Oct 7, 2008, 4:53pm EDT
Clearly it was Obama, as reflected in the polls.
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Carla G. Oct 7, 2008, 4:54pm EDT
And Phyllis, you obviously haven't read Obama's plan. If you are middle class you will pay less in taxes than with McCain in charge. If you are rich you will pay more. If you're not making more than $250,000 you have nothing to worry about.
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@**Phyllis**@ @ Mom of 2 boys@ Oct 7, 2008, 5:00pm EDT
Carla
how much more can the rich pay??? They already pay 90% of the taxes??
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 5:07pm EDT
Cubs went down like the Titantic. Maybe next year but the fact of the matter is Americans need to get rid of the me first mentality. It can lead to a lot of bad things including a two class society- rich and poor and no middle class. I'm not making 250,00 a year- yet. So I'm not worried about a tax increase. If Obama raises my taxes that means I hit pay dirt!
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Stephanie B. Oct 7, 2008, 5:14pm EDT
Phyllis,

They also hold 90% of the wealth in America. Or close to it, if not more.
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Stephanie B. Oct 7, 2008, 5:18pm EDT
To be more exact, the richest 10% of adults accounted for 85% of the world's total wealth. In contrast, the bottom half of the world adult population owned barely 1% of global wealth.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 5:22pm EDT
You all into already? Hey Phyll. My neigbors lost $4,000 on their Dupont stock this past week. Thats profit sharing stock
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@**Phyllis**@ @ Mom of 2 boys@ Oct 7, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
Carol
You know when I am around people tend to start early.. lol
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 5:36pm EDT
I havent seen tony for awhile so I think youre ok lol. I will look out for you always. I told Spencer in ping i was working on making you a liberal heheehheehe
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@**Phyllis**@ @ Mom of 2 boys@ Oct 7, 2008, 5:43pm EDT
I know Carol.. Your the best! : )
He laughed at that one all night long.. He even told his Marine Papa that one.. : )
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 6:09pm EDT
Linda isolation for us and the USA no longer is possible hell it doesnt exist. Our neighbors are not just next door but across oceans and continents as well.
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Valerie Roars Oct 7, 2008, 8:22pm EDT
Obama won the debate for sure! Oh, oops, it hasn't started yet ;) I'll be back......
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 8:32pm EDT
evening
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 8:59pm EDT
i went to get a pizza
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:00pm EDT
everything with anchovies
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 9:08pm EDT
Plain cheese on my pizza please!
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:11pm EDT
Hi Brain they both dodged the first question.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:11pm EDT
my pizza is a belly buster
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:11pm EDT
I would love Buffet as Sec of treasury
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:14pm EDT
they dont seen to get the point that its moved beyond bad debts or lack of liquidity. It is about a crisis of confidence
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:15pm EDT
obama is right the deregulation is a big part of how this problem got out of hand
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:16pm EDT
I am talking to me but what i am doing is taking notes
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:16pm EDT
I agree with obama that leadership is a big key to bringing an end to this crisis
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:18pm EDT
We may very well be the best workers in the world but that means nothing if we cannot compete globally
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:18pm EDT
both parties did not get us into this crisis it is not that simple
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:19pm EDT
blame defict spending on Bush indeed
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:21pm EDT
be back in a bit
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 9:22pm EDT
More of the same is what McCain is saying
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Dan H. Oct 7, 2008, 9:23pm EDT
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:25pm EDT
I wish he would stop assuming he is my friend.....
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:26pm EDT
Cut my social security I dont think so. $644 a mo doest leave much room for cuts. But I can do without an increase this year.
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Cathy N. Oct 7, 2008, 9:29pm EDT
I'm watching, but I'll comment at the end. So far, McCain is rambling. Get to the point.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:33pm EDT
yes he is cathy
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:35pm EDT
he said my friends again
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:37pm EDT
BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS
Here's how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain's or Barack Obama's tax proposals were fully in place.
MCCAIN OBAMA
Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:37pm EDT
McCain lied
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:39pm EDT
Hope the tax chart helps
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Stephannie H. Oct 7, 2008, 9:40pm EDT
missed it tonight
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:45pm EDT
not missing much
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 9:47pm EDT
I know McCain lied, he's not the honorable man he was
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Chris E. Oct 7, 2008, 9:51pm EDT
"Clearly it was Obama, as reflected in the polls.
Carla G., Oct 7, 2008, 4:53pm EDT"

Declaring a winner before it even began. LOL
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
should heath care be a commodity NO NO NO
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
Hey Chris you in Miami
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:52pm EDT
anytime to pit patient care vs a bottom line guess which one wins
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 9:53pm EDT
Health care is a basic human right!
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:54pm EDT
mccain used to make sense what has happened to him
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:54pm EDT
this is so sad
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:55pm EDT
that 5000 grand he talking about the tax payer will never see it goes to the insurance co
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 9:55pm EDT
You can't buy health insurance for 5,000 who he's trying to b.s.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:58pm EDT
lol youre right
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:58pm EDT
short of someone blowing up something here mccain simply going to lose
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 9:59pm EDT
Barack nailed him about insurance companies setting up shop in states with lose regs.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 9:59pm EDT
i am getting ready to close my doors and loudly go aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Chris E. Oct 7, 2008, 10:00pm EDT
I wish Carol
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:00pm EDT
i saw this ad that said he knew how to win a war well the only one he was in we lost
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Carla G. Oct 7, 2008, 10:01pm EDT
The rich pay less now than under Reagan and Clinton. Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich to closer to where it was when Clinton or Reagan was president. GWB gave all these tax breaks to the wealthy (approved by McCain of course) and that has even created more of a deficit along with the war in Iraq.
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:01pm EDT
Insurance comanpines will simply re-locate to states with lose regs and that 5,000 tax credit will mean 000000000000
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:01pm EDT
I am 25 min below the Mouse House
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:01pm EDT
74 and cloudy here
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:02pm EDT
yes they will regulate them in the states the operate in
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David K. Oct 7, 2008, 10:02pm EDT
I'm sorry, but the "my friends" thing is really starting to bug me.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:03pm EDT
Why should an insurance co decide on my treatments and not my physicians
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:03pm EDT
read back david me too
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:05pm EDT
yes they will reg in the states but the regs won't be worth the paper they are written on without enforcement.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:05pm EDT
he said again
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:06pm EDT
my friends again
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:06pm EDT
We need to broaden the decsions made my doctors and lessen the objections of the insurers
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:07pm EDT
i met the twice I dont know well enough to consider him a friend
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:10pm EDT
good answer on pakistan
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:12pm EDT
we drove the russians out give me break
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Chris E. Oct 7, 2008, 10:12pm EDT
"74 and cloudy here "

I'll take that its 48here right now. I was actually in Tampa last week( my family lives there) It was still hot there. One of these days I'll convince my husband to move.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:14pm EDT
I am 60miles east of tampa
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Chris E. Oct 7, 2008, 10:15pm EDT
So you are closer to Orlando then?
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:17pm EDT
49.1 miles south
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David K. Oct 7, 2008, 10:19pm EDT
Did McCain just say he has always been responsible? Doesn't that contradict the whole maverick thing? Not to mention 5 crashed planes, random bad taste jokes, his admitted gambling tendencies, his "game changer" mentality, etc.?

That, my friends, is believing your talking points and not listening to yourself talk.
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Chris E. Oct 7, 2008, 10:19pm EDT
I know the area fairly well between my family and we also have quite a few friends that live in the area.
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David K. Oct 7, 2008, 10:19pm EDT
2-dimensional thinker
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:19pm EDT
Who ever won fighting in Afghanistan? The British and Russians didn't how will we be any different?
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:23pm EDT
its a hostile place to fight a war
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:23pm EDT
I am in Lake Wales
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:25pm EDT
What is wierd is that any other pilot in any of the services who trashed 5 jets would not have been promoted must have had to do with daddy and grandpa with 4 stars
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:25pm EDT
He said again
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:26pm EDT
sanctions dont work
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:27pm EDT
One Russian general stated that God put all the rocks in the world in that one country- Afghanistan.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:28pm EDT
hes right
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:30pm EDT
the resistant fighters were tough fighters
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:32pm EDT
If he's right than we can meet the same results .
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:32pm EDT
Well all I will be quiet and read what you thought of the debates
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:32pm EDT
i bet he will say it again
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Carol Lloyd Oct 7, 2008, 10:37pm EDT
Lets see the polls but I think Obama hands down McCain same old same old
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Brian T. Oct 7, 2008, 10:37pm EDT
Nothing changed in my mind. I feel that Obama debunked McCain claims that he will raise taxes.
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