If you do any looking at all, proof that Rove and his minions stole 2000, 2004, and tried like hell to steal 2006, but failed, is easily found. Florida in 2000, Ohio in 2004 both bring the hackles up on any informed liberals back.
In 2006, they tried to do it again, and keep congress under Republican control, but the software for the machines went out too early, and the fix that was in, didn't take into consideration the further drop in Republican approval between then and election day and the fix wasn't quite enough, and Rove was foiled, for the first time since he hit the bigtime, on the national scene.
Don't expect him to screw up like that again. You surely don't believe he's at home baking cookies, I hope - yes I said Rove. Things are already in process, things that will influence the vote, influence who becomes our president, once again. By hook or crook, but mostly by theft, the Rovian strategic machine isn't letting any grass grow under it's feet.
One part of this is our own fault. We sighed a sigh of relief, and sat back after the votes were counted in 2006, and didn't keep the pressure on congress for paper trails, and surprise, not, we got exactly what we deserved, nothing.
Although some progress has been made in various places, on a state by state basis, it causes me some trepidation that it would seem the major gains were all in already safe areas, such as California, a fairly reliable blue state when it comes to presidential elections of late.
Tons of unverifiable touch screen machines are still out there, along with other easily hackable hardware, and our election is once again there for the stealing. Legislation to gain transparency of proprietary software that can be hacked to change the count, that would allow some kind of oversight, and many other reforms were foiled by names as prominent as Microsoft testifying against it, and funneling cash to Washington in wheelbarrows, and another avenue to clean elections was closed to traffic. With a more in depth view of the possibility of Democrat's 08 election chances disappearing, yet again, in a fog of treasonous Republican deceit, CLICK HERE
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Face it my friend. The Dems lost in 2000 and 2004 because they are far to the left of the American public. They "won" in 2006, because of Iraq and the Republican base staying home in protest of the RHINOS in Congress. A blind man can see that, Ron! Surely YOU can!
And, with the Dems dead-set on putting up Hillary as their standard-bearer, they won't need to steal anything, even if they could or wanted to.
Conspiracy theories just don't fit you well, Ron. Try another schtick.
Oh, kudos for putting the personal touch to the article. I KNEW you had it in you.
You gotta quit eating nothing but talking points, you're almost unintelligible. I'm not going to go into the whole of that load, but you are seriously deluded.
There is NO evidence of any such thing, Ron. If you have it. Put it out for everyone to see. You can't because there isn't any. You'll pass it over with some smart-assed comment. But, you've got squat to back up that statement.
Your eyes must be a deep shade of brown because you are so full of crap on this.
As I said, you haven't been paying attention, have you? Let me gather the links for you, and we'll try to educate you, but if you hit me with one more case where you don't even believe your own eyes, as you did on those two fake war critics, I will wash my hands of you for good.
Spartan (never forget that LIGHT is the first element of creation)*, Oct 31, 2007, 8:08pm EDT
Spartie, you're an idiot! That in NO proves your and ROn's assinine accusation. Oh, rest assured, the absentee ballots of servicemembers were challenged in the 2000 Florida debacle ... David Boies, led Gores goon-squad lawyers to all the contested counties to challenge the military absentee ballots. The Bush camp screamed bloody murder when Gore tied that. They knew the military back-ed Bush three to one.
You REALLY need to get a clue!
And, go back to the frog. I liked you better as an amphibian. The slime suits you.
Let me digress about Rove. I hear that when he was in high school debate he would bring in large file boxes of blank cards to intimidate his opponents. I often think of him with that in mind. He is clever but behind it all, many of his cards are empty.
I find it interesting that it is the Democrats that are often working to get more people registered to vote while the Republicans are working to disenfranchise people under the guise of purging the rolls of ineligible voters. Of course, we need to purge the voting rolls but we need to do it very carefully so we don't take away the vote from legitimate voters.
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2007/2730
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4960
http://www.hd.net/drr227.html
I live in disgraced Ohio and watched it all unfold.
With Hillary as the Democratic candidate, the upcoming flame-out can be seen a year in advance. No Republican chicanery will be necessary. We'll just put up another loser candidate that gets squashed like a bug. This is ours for the losing, and we'll live down to expectations...........again.
A conservative candidate is the solution - not more Center/Left candidates. The country has already made the subtle shift to the Center/Right during the Reagan years and that shift continues today. Apparently, you can't see the obvious handwriting on the wall that 55% of the voting populace regularly sees. Sad, because you'll willingly march into a running buzzsaw in 2008.
Common knowledge? Now I know you're joking............or point-whoring. Or both.
I sense a Leftist Crackpot alert brewing.
Anyone with eyeballs can judge your comments for the tripe they are. Your "common knowledge" is now the stuff that people rent at Blockbuster for a nostalgic laugh of the "days when those idiot protesters were out in force, picketing".
"Loose Change" and it's ilk - pure cheddar.
That's what you classify as "proof"? The suppositions of a British TV reporter are just that, suppositions. The allegations of the interviewees are just that, allegations. There have been investigations into this question -- many of them. If there was this vast conspiracy as you seem to believe there was, there would have been criminal charges files and convictions handed down.
There hasn't been, and that's not due to a lack of effort on a lot of people of your mind-set trying to bring that about. You want to "prove" something to me, you're going to need evidence, not supposition and allegations that yet to have verifiable evidence presented to back them up.
Hell, Ron, even the NYT, who wanted desperately to prove the position your advocating, came back after a lengthy investigation and their own recount, and said not only did Bush win Florida, he won by a larger margin than what the official tally reflected.
It's over, Ron. Over long ago. Let it go. Move on, as you libs are so fond of saying.
I guess you just can't fix stupid.
You could get caught with your hand in the cookie jar and claim you were just putting cookies in it, and It wouldn't surprise me if your mother would probably confirm you have. You may have read the information, but you obviously didn't even try to digest it's implications. I don't actually care what you think, though, it's become entirely clear you are part of the problem, not savable. a thirty percent syndrome loser that will never abandon your hero, no matter what he does, or what it does to our country. Good luck with that. I'm done trying to reason with you, while you only look for loopholes for your fuhrer. It is completely obvious, from the mass of evidence, whether or not it's possible to determine who did what, so that it's prosecutable, that both elections were fraught with Republican fraud. In Ohio, as the article notes, if you had bothered to read it, two convictions have already resulted, so there's your convictions handed down, and now, with the revelations about the counties defying the court order and destroying the ballots, there will be more. I would be surprised if the recent revelations by the voting machine company employees doesn't result in prosecution, I know it's being investigated. That's not going to faze you, though, I know, because to you, it isn't about truth, it's some kind of a game. I don't see it as a game, I see it as the destruction of our country and you help those that are doing it.
If we could fix stupid, we'd of helped you out a long time ago, but alas, we can't, so I guess we'll just have to suffer with your ignorant comments until a cure is found. Sorry.
It takes no filibuster proof majority to not fund the war but they caved on that. They rig votes in the house to make sure illegals get their government assistance and now they are running hillary(who cant even answer a questionstraight)...
All aboard the trainwreck
I have had the war crap up to here. They are not going to defund the troops, and cause a life threatening retreat, something your side has accused them of wanting to do on many occasions, so they have asked for reasonable redeployment legislation, which your side has BLOCKED, on more than a few occasions. There are those that have joined with your president to try to grant amnesty, and generally help illegal immigrants where ever possible, but there are more, obviously that listen to their constituency, as mine do, that have been steadfast adversarys to the Kennedy, Bush, and Reid attempts to bull amnesty through congress, and make no mistake about it, President Bush was entirely behind that effort, and even revived the vote once, when the Democrats had given up so we had to vote it down again, so hang that one at the doors that it belongs at, and one of them is the White House, and in truth, a bigger hat belongs there, than at any other. Hillary has not won anything yet, my friend, but if she does, she'd still make a better president than all the wishy washy 911 spouting republican choices. You better think more about the lemming trip you are on, than any trainwrecks on the liberal side.
I don't think that the elections in 2000 or 2004 were stolen. I think the Supreme Court deciding the presidency was wrong in 2000.
I have to agree that Rove is no dummy. He didn't go home to be with his family. He is plotting and planning for the next election. He will come out of the woodwork next year.
Another factor to consider is that people are changing in this country. The voters are not falling for the Republican line as much as they did before. The voters are very smart and can see when the Constitution is being used for toilet paper.
Libs : listen to the moniker of your own favorite website - MOVE ON!
7+ years is long enough for you TinFoilHat wearers to sip the Kool-Aid. To imply that it's going to occur in 2008 just makes you sound desperate and pathetic. Which you are.