Those of you who know me through my writings on Gather are aware that I am a fallen-away Catholic. Rather, a fallen-away believer period. Based on my up-bringing (Catholic) and career history (I served as a choir director and organist in a number of churches across a variety of denominations for about 30 years), I sometimes miss the social and musical aspects of organized religion. I certainly miss the majestic organs I use to play (no jokes, thank you).
But these past few days have reminded me, rather emphatically, exactly why I left organized religion and dogma behind. You see, my father-in-law died last Thursday. He was 82 and had lived a full and impressive life, leaving behind a wonderful family and many accomplishments, so it wasn't as sad a passing as many are. Certainly not as tragic, in the larger picture, as the passing of his second son from cancer 10 years ago at the age of 40. Nevertheless, a sad time for my husband, his mom, and the extended family and friends.
I helped my mother-in-law the first couple of days with the funeral arrangements, being the eldest son's wife and a recognized (albeit incorrect) "expert" on religious ceremonies. The priest of their parish delegated the handling of the funeral arrangements to a little old woman named Rita (who I liked to refer to a Lovely Rita). I soon found out that this was not so much out of convenience than out of cowardice.
When it came time to state our preferences for the funeral mass, my mother-in-law told Rita that my father-in-law wanted to have my daughter (an accomplished violinist) and myself play the Ashoken Farewell as part of the ceremony and their brother-in-law (much more like a brother) say the eulogy. You see, we had performed this piece for my brother-in-law's funeral mass and my father-in-law had loved it and wanted it for his mass.
Rita frowned with sympathetic concern and said that she would have to speak to the priest about this, stating that this was not a "religious piece of music". Now, anyone who has seen Ken Burns' Civil War series knows this piece and its obviously religious connotations. It is also instrumental (no words), and achingly beautiful. Well, the priest called my mother-in-law back and told her that it was either the eulogy or the "5-minute piece", as it came to be called. She was heart-broken and in tears. Why did she have to choose, she asked me? Also, Rita had given her a selection of readings from which to choose, all of which spoke of hell fire, damnation, decaying flesh and penance.
I called the priest, put on my nicest diplomatic tone and was going to suggest an alternative when he said that we could have both the eulogy and the "5-minute piece", but no communion. I told him this was really not what my in-laws would have wanted and suggested we do the Ashoken Farewell right before the processional so that it wasn't technically part of the liturgy. He bought that.
Okay. Since when has a funeral service become a Chinese Menu? You can have one from Column A and one from Column B, but you can't have one from Column A & C together. More importantly, who the f*ck cares? Everything my in-laws wanted was appropriate and meaningful - to them and to the people who loved them in attendance. My husband was livid (and he doesn't often get angry). I tried to calm him down, saying that this was the priest's clubhouse so he got to make the rules. But I was pretty disgusted myself. And to top off everything, this priest didn't even bother to show up at the funeral - he sent some substitute priest who, I hate to say it, was pretty much on his last leg. And he never bothered to inform the family that he wouldn't be coming.
So, I ask you. How can anyone defend religious organizations when this is how they behave. I say "Screw them all". When I die, I will be cremated and leave a bunch of money for family and friends to have a big party with loads of music and food and booze. At least I will die knowing that no religious despot will have the power to make my grieving family lives' hell.


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My husband joined the Methodist church a year after we got married...they hated that.
My MIL still to this day tries to teach the rosary to my kids but they really don't care about it.
My oldest son is dating a catholic girl that goes twice per week. I am NOT complaining though because he needs some type of religion in his life at this time and at this time....it's better than nothing for him.
You know what is best for your son, but believe me, please don't think that religion will be "good for him". Being a good person is all he needs to be. : - )
As far as the bad manners on the part of the people invited to the Methodist wedding, shame on them and they ought to know better than that. How archaic can you be? I hope this was a long time ago. We live in a town where there are many Methodist/Catholic marriages so there is a lot of passing back and forth, as well as community projects, etc. It's 2007, for Pete's sake, let's act it? The rosary won't be of any value to the kids if they haven't been inspired by lives well-lived. I think this ship has sailed for your mother-in-law and I hope she "gets" that she has caused pain.
You can't.
You'll find examples in all organized religions . . . I'm sure you know. You can also find instances of good and proper, caring behavior. While I think people all inherently know what the right thing to do is . . . I suspect some feel the need for guidance . . . Mother Theresa was Catholic . . .
When the down side (pedophile priests, bad experiences during important moments in life, etc.) outnumber the advantage derived from the good experiences . . . and when one is confident that they can lead a moral life . . . sometimes you need to move on. Individual decisions.
Best wishes and deepest condolences.
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
My sister-in-law (the widow) whose experience with my FIL's passing brought back so many emotions about her own husband's death, called the priest back and told him politely that this was why people were leaving the Catholic Church in droves. (She's from Canada and doesn't mince words.) He just stuck to his guns in silence and did not even respond to her questions. We now call her the "priest slayer".
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Your recent experience is not your only experience and anger is seen in the article . . . and is understandable. I myself left organized religion after long study and Protestant ordination. People wish for a church to be responsive and that's the rub. It cannot always do so. I see people suing (for example) the Mormon church (LDS) or some other church for policies to women or because it excommunicated someone. These people simply do not understand. If a church's tenets are that women may not speak and you believe they should . . . you don't belong to that church. This is a quasi-private organization (making book off the taxpayers) and they set their own rules. If you can't subscribe . . . you should leave. I don't bear hostility to Catholics . . . I'm not Catholic. If I agreed with them I would be. IF I thought they were doing something wrong . . . I would withdraw from the church (and have) . . . We -- you and I -- no longer need others to tell us right from wrong. Even if they did, we would choose to agree or not . . . therefore, we choose our own paths. But all organized religions also do some good. I always remember people like Mohatma Ghandi and Mother Theresa (Whom I desperately sought to visit) were working with many other people from many other religions. SOMEWHERE, there is the answer. The greats from any religion don't mind and even respect other religions. As do I . . . but individual acts of members and leaders and policies here and there I do NOT support.
Life is work, a journey and a struggle . . . likely why poets and thinkers have compared it to crossing a mountain. Organized religion is like having a path . . . those ahead of you can look back and direct you along an easy path they followed. Many take these paths . . . but some choose their own way. Different religions are like different paths . . . not wrong or right necesarily . . . though maybe wrong for you at any time. No harm or foul in that. I have chosen to find my own way . . . but should I get lost (and I have) . . . I look for a path or a guide and continue my climb. Somehow I suspect you know your way. :)
Warm Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
I see that at one point in human existence there was some need that the church filled - those in the Middle Ages whose lives were hell on earth and their only survival tactic was to hope for something better in the afterlife. But, wouldn't it be wonderful if people didn't believe in heaven and hell?
During his canned sermon, the priest commented that we were better off having the knowledge of God and heaven/hell in that we could live life "with hope", unlike those heathens that did not believe and were "hopeless". I feel that the opposite is true - if people did not believe that there was an afterlife with paradise and virgins, then they would struggle to make a heaven on earth while they could still enjoy it. That is my faith, my belief. The here and now - we could make this paradise if we didn't have our eyes on the prize and realized that it is in serving our fellow living creatures that we truly obtain happiness and peace.
As to the Methodist/Catholic wedding where the Catholics didn't show up for the ceremony. I do hope that you both saw those "Catholics" just for what they are and don't get too involved in their lives.
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Sorry, just can't buy into it. My niece went to confession on Saturday with my MIL. She's a really good kid - she lost her dad at an early age and committed to being a health professional - she's in college now studying medicine and has been an EMT for years in her free time. She really couldn't think of too many sins to confess, so the priest admonished her to "prepare" more before confession and come up with more things because we're all terrible sinners. He gave her a pamphlet that listed out a bunch of venial sins that she was sure to confess next time. Fortunately, she has a great sense of humor and told us there probably wouldn't be a "next time".
Thanks for your kind words. : - )
Needless to say, we DID use the wedding march and no lightning bolts struck us!
I've also baptized my son in the Catholic church, and I can tell you that the various churches in our diocese have different rules. Some require you to attend 2 classes, some only one, some none. Some require that both Godparents be Catholic, some only require one to be Catholic. Some make you show proof of Confirmation, Marriage in the church, etc for both parents and Godparents and some don't. I can tell you that we baptized our son in one of the more lenient churches just because we had a heck of a time finding 2 practicing Catholics to be Godparents who were both practicing and married in the church. Do I think I'll go to hell for this? Nope!
I can tell you that deep in my heart, I love my Catholic faith. That does not mean that I agree with everything the church preaches or all of the rules enforced by the church. Does that mean that I'll abandon my faith? NO! That just means that I get to practice my God given right of FREE WILL and FREEDOM of THINKING and FREEDOM OF CHOICE. God gave us intelligence so we would use it to question what we're taught instead of just blindly accepting the teachings of our church. That is a good thing that we should embrace.
Thank you for your posting and I'm sorry that you had to endure such a struggle at such a tragic time for your family.
I respect your feelings about the church - there are good things about every religion, but I still feel that one's spirituality should not be governed by earthly rules, especially when they are ridiculous and make good people feel so badly. It's a power trip, plain and simple. I guess I'm too independent a spirit to bow to that kind of thing, even a little. To me, it's not worth the trouble. I'm glad it works for you, though. Again, thanks for your comments.
I'm sorry the church was not a comfort to you when you needed comfort, and I'm sorry for your loss.
And, yes, she went into the box. She was so cute. Because she hadn't gone in so long, she did not remember the words to the act of contrition. She went on line, googled it, and created a little cheat sheet on a Post-it note that she used. : - )
Oh, and how about annulment? That's the creepiest thing I ever heard of. Can you imagine how the kids of a divorced couple feel when their parents decide to say the marriage never really happened in the eyes of the church? Please don't tell me that that's not for real real. My SIL had to go through that hell in order to marry my brother in a church.
First, when I was 14, I played on a club volleyball team. We went to a tournament in New Orleans over Easter. Most of my teammates were Catholic, while I was a Presbyterian Chreaster. They decided while we had a long break between games, we should go to the cathedral for Easter service. I gave in and went with them. Half way through the service, I ran out of the church crying. I couldn't believe the damnation that was taking place. According to that service, I was going to hell, my parents were going to hell, basically EVERYONE is going to hell unless they repent and devout themselves to God. It was too much. At that point, I lost any and all respect for Catholicism.
Second: My husband's step father died last September. His service was in a Lutheran church and they allowed all three daughters to read something as well as Elvis to play over the speakers - he was a huge Elvis fan. That's what it's supposed to be about.... We want to say a meaningful goodbye to our loved ones, not in a way that is dictated by money-hungry, little-boy-loving hypocrits. Don't even get me started on Heaven!
Your stepfatherinlaw's service sounds very nice - you're right - that's the way it should be. It should be personalized, remembering a life in honor, not constantly being reminded of the worms in the decaying body and the torments of hell in general.
I think more than any other religion, Catholicism was built upon the absolute domination of a small number of "learned, in-the-know" men over an un-educated, fearful populace. They seem to have taken all the personal, loving, beautiful aspects of Christ out of the general practice and focused on the fearful, dominating, subjugative aspects of religion.
"As I read about the Los Angeles Roman Catholic Archdiocese's $600 million clergy abuse settlement, I couldn't help but hear the line from Don McLean's song, "American Pie" - "I saw Satan laughing with delight."
"As one diocese after another sells off property and closes schools and churches (all the while contending that the settlements are really no great financial problem), I can't help but marvel at the sad irony of it all. Who did this to the church? Was it the Muslims? The atheists? The government? No, it was an inside job, carried out by pedophile priests while the church hierarchy looked the other way!
"Very clever guy, this Satan."
As this priest pointed out, we could have the musical piece or we could have the eulogy. The liturgy provided for one time in the service where something "non-liturgical" could be performed, but we could not have both. If we wanted both, then it would not technically be a "burial mass", could not include communion and would be more of a memorial service, but would not qualify as the funeral liturgy/mass.