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by Pam Johnston
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February 8, 2007

Gather’s Summer Points Promotion – Your Questions Answered!

August 19, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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Here are answers to some of your most asked questions about Gather’s current Summer Points Promotion.

Can I simply edit my previously shared summer photos to add the summerpics tag, or do I have to republish?

In order to qualify for the extra points, you must republish your summer photos that have already been shared on the site.

Do pictures uploaded in photo essays count?
Yes - Photos uploaded in photo essays do count. Just be sure to tag them summerpics during the publish/upload process.

How is the Grand Prize winner determined?
Gather will calculate the number of 10 star ratings along with the unique views on each photo. Those that emerge as the top ten photos will then be entered into a raffle to win the digital camera. If you watched any of the Invite-a-thon announcement videos, you’ll have a big clue as to how we will select the ultimate winner from among the ten finalists ;)

Can I share pictures of the cat that I got this Summer, or snowy pics of my trip to Switzerland?
Feel free to share any of your summer photos. If they seem off topic, please include details about the photo in the caption field during the publishing process. That way, everyone looking at your photo will know how it relates to summer.

Will the points I earn during this promotion help me to qualify for the cash option. No. As is the case in all Gather points promotions, points earned do not count toward the cash option.

When will points be uploaded?
Points will be uploaded by close of business the day after you share your images. So, folks who shared images shortly after the contest was announced (Monday 8/18 @ 5:30pm ET) will see the points they earned by close of business tonight (Tuesday 5/19 @ 5:30pm ET)  If we’re a little late uploading the points, please have patience… we’re trying. All your points will be distributed and will show up in your dashboard, but sometimes there’s a delay in them actually showing up on your My Gather page.

So, if I share 100 pix I will get 1000 points?
Yup:)

Important reminder!
Don’t forget to check out all the summer pics being shared by visiting
http://www.gather.com/summerpics. This is where you and your friends can view, rate, and comment on the photos participating in this promotion!

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Comments: 171 ( 1 removed by Pam Johnston )

Chris E. Aug 19, 2008, 10:59am EDT
Thanks Pam! Just one more question from me. Do the pictures have to be from this summer only?
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 11:00am EDT
Hi Chris - feel free to include pictures from previous summers!
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*~*~Sherry S. Aug 19, 2008, 11:01am EDT
Awesome! Thank you Gather! :)
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Princess Spanky Pants ~ The Real, Original, Heather T Aug 19, 2008, 11:01am EDT
Fantastic, Pam! Thanks so much for such a wonderful promo! I've already started uploading, and now I'm planning to go ahead and rate what others have posted!!
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*~*~Sherry S. Aug 19, 2008, 11:01am EDT
Oh, that is even better, because I have tons of my daughter I would love to share from previous summers!
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Tanzanite S. Aug 19, 2008, 11:13am EDT
Thanks for the clarification.
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Michelle C (faithhopelove20) Aug 19, 2008, 11:16am EDT
This is so awesome!! I LOVE Gather promotions! Way to turn me back into a Gatheraddict . . . geeez! :)
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Chris E. Aug 19, 2008, 11:17am EDT
Thanks again Pam!
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Karel K. Aug 19, 2008, 11:21am EDT
Thanks. Glad to see another promotion.
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Princess Spanky Pants ~ The Real, Original, Heather T Aug 19, 2008, 11:23am EDT
Michelle, it was an evil plot to get you back to Gathering! :)
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Priscilla (wishing I was in Costa Rica) ~. Aug 19, 2008, 11:23am EDT
Thanks for clearing things up!
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Rob Appell Aug 19, 2008, 11:31am EDT
Seriously, though...what constitutes a 'unique view'?
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Shannon W Aug 19, 2008, 11:47am EDT
Thanks Pam! That answers all my questions.
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Tracey E. Aug 19, 2008, 11:51am EDT
I just never get into the photo contests.
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Nana to Seven Cutiepies Aug 19, 2008, 12:27pm EDT
Good question Rob, I was wondering that also.

Thanks Pam for the clarifications.
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Michelle C (faithhopelove20) Aug 19, 2008, 12:30pm EDT
I think it means that if ONE person goes and views the same picture over and over and over again, day after day, it would only count as ONE view - not two or three or five dozen.
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Princess Spanky Pants ~ The Real, Original, Heather T Aug 19, 2008, 12:31pm EDT
That is my take, as well, Michelle- you viewing your own photo over and over again, or hitting refresh, or re-visiting a photo to look at comments will only be 1 view, as opposed to 10 or 15.
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Alex In Wonderland Aug 19, 2008, 12:33pm EDT
Awesome contest!
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Aug 19, 2008, 12:40pm EDT
I have a question - you said they can't be altered - but does that mean I can't put my copyright and initials in it, so no one can steal my pic? I do that to all my pics because I use them elsewhere professionally, and I do not want them stolen.
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♠~Dnbuster~♠ ~. Aug 19, 2008, 12:40pm EDT
thanks:)
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Bridget ♥ Aug 19, 2008, 12:47pm EDT
What about the photos with the tag that have nothing to do with summer? Do those still earn points simply becasue they used summerpics as a tag?
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 12:52pm EDT
"Gather will calculate the number of 10 star ratings along with the unique views on each photo. Those that emerge as the top ten photos will then be entered into a raffle to win the digital camera."

Does 'calculate' in the statement above mean that these numbers will be added together to achieve a score for that content (page views+10 ratings)?

This then dictates that a unique page view counts the same (has the same value or weight) as a rating of '10'. Is this correct?

Thank You!
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Apryl Just Apryl Aug 19, 2008, 12:55pm EDT
I am having a blast with this promo. I got a new camera this year and I have been taking pictures of everything this summer which brings me to my question.

My yard and my wild life are a big part of my summer days. Do those photos count in the promo? Warning, I have lots!

Also do I have to post to a specific group. I'm not very good at group posting.
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Alex In Wonderland Aug 19, 2008, 1:02pm EDT
where does it say you can't alter pictures?
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 1:04pm EDT
Oh, previous summers too, how exciting! Now I have thousands of potential contributions....
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 1:07pm EDT
My other Q is still unanswered definitively: Is it the top to CONTRIBUTORS or PHOTOS? As you'll discover, it should be from the top 10 people, not photos, because the same people will have multiple pics in the 10 top. I guarantee it because it's the nature of Gather to have a few people with the great majority of the high ratings/rankings.

Mark my words, you'll want to change the rules (of course, it's not like Gather hasn't changed the rules midstream before but it was bad then and would be bad now) in the end when you see the top 10 PHOTOS emerge....
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Andrea (Ms. Conservative) L. Aug 19, 2008, 1:08pm EDT
Ok, I got it mixed up with the other photo contest. This one doesn't say that it can't be altered. My bad, sorry.
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Alex In Wonderland Aug 19, 2008, 1:13pm EDT
Andrea you scared me! I almost always crop and remove dates.
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 1:20pm EDT
Sherry,

Pam's statement emphasizes the word "photos":

"Those that emerge as the top ten photos will then be entered into a raffle to win the digital camera."

Therefore, it would appear that a member having the top 5 photos (however that is determined) will be entered 5 times in the final drawing. However, other statements refer to 10 finalists which would imply members and not photos.

Hopefully these questions/concerns are clarified.
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 1:21pm EDT
Exactly, Kevin. The contradictory statements are the problem.
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Sassy Cat Aug 19, 2008, 1:23pm EDT
Very cool! Thanks gather!
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 1:24pm EDT
I meant to say that I hope the eligibility requirements are clarified. I think our questions/concerns are clear enough.
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Amy B. Aug 19, 2008, 1:28pm EDT
When did this promo start? When does it end? This is the first I heard about it and just came across this post by accident.
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lena k. Aug 19, 2008, 1:28pm EDT
thanks
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 1:29pm EDT
Semantics, ugh.

Given how vehement Gather has been in the past about ensuring that as many members as possible have a chance to win big prizes, you'd think it should be a no-brainer here.

(And no, of course I'm not bitter over the outcome of something similar to this that happened last year... :/)
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 1:39pm EDT
I don't understand why the page view component has been added into the equation for this contest/promotion. This adds a level of complexity that has no precedent and appears unnecessary, especially if a single unique page view is equal to a rating of 10.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 1:52pm EDT
Sherry: Sorry if I wasn't clear enough or somehow contradicted myself. The top ten PHOTOS will be entered to win the contest. If you happened to have shared four of those top ten, you'll be entered four times. Does that answer your question?
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 1:54pm EDT
Rob (and others): Unique views means individual people viewing your photos. So, if I view one of your photos 15 times, it only counts as one unique view. Hope that helps.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 1:56pm EDT
Andrea: You can absolutely feel free to add a copyright or watermark to your images.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 1:58pm EDT
Bidget: The photos that are entered with the summerpics tag that are clearly are clearly NOT summer pictures, will NOT be eligible for additional Gather Points.
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Bridget ♥ Aug 19, 2008, 2:00pm EDT
Thanks Pam!
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 2:01pm EDT
Kevin: The ten photos with the most unique views and most number of 10 star ratings will be entered into the drawing for the digital camera.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 2:05pm EDT
Sherry: To further clarify... if one member ends up contributing all ten of the top 10 photos (which could absolutely be the case) I guess we won't have to do a drawing :)
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Janet "Jax" B. Aug 19, 2008, 2:07pm EDT
Thanks Pam. I do wish I had know about this a week ago, since I ~just~ put up my photoe essays of vacation...and I don't think it's real fair for everyone else if I republish the whole thing just for the points....

I do hope you decide to have 10 different people also. Certain people have tons and tons of views on every photo....and they could possible have more than 1 photo in the finals.
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 2:08pm EDT
It does answer my question, thanks.

That said, why is this contest being conducted in THIS way, but in past contests, the SAME RULES were interpreted by Gather in a totally different way? I'm not even interested in winning here because I already own two very nice cameras, but I do wonder about inconsistencies in rule interpretation. Disheartening.

Also, disallowing certain photos because their 'summer' nature is questionable to Gather is a slippery slope. Eg, I had a baby this summer, so to ME, 'summer' is all about my baby and my other two kids. So my summerpics are, very legitimately, pics of my kids in various situations.
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 2:09pm EDT
LOL, Janet, I think you can I can pick the top few Gather members who will have multiple entries in the final drawing! :) And I agree - it really should be top 10 USERS, not photos. Sigh. Oh well. If only WE made the rules! Oh, and republish it Janet!
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 2:14pm EDT
Pam,

Thank you, but your answer doesn't provide any additional clarification.

In a contest it is important for entrants to understand what the requirements are for eligibility. Therefore, are you confirming that unique pages views are added to the number of 10 star ratings for our image, and thus a unique page view counts the same as a rating of 10?

For example, my image receives 1 rating of 10 from Sherry. She also triggers 1 unique page view in doing so. Does her rating and page view get added together to make 2 'votes'?

Thank You!
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 2:20pm EDT
That's how it sounds, Kevin. :)
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 2:21pm EDT
It *sounds* like an attempt to sort of 'counteract' DB 1s by giving a point for just a view, but that's just a guess.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 2:23pm EDT
Sherry: Sometimes rules change depending on who Gather is partnering with on the contest in question and sometimes we learn a thing or two from our mistakes and try to improve going forward. Clearly... we can't please everyone. When it comes to "interpreting content" - you'll find Gather will be very liberal. This is a points promotion. We're hoping for lots of participation from across the community. But out of respect for those playing fairly, Gather will disqualify a picture of an elbow, or a cellphone, or a box of tissues, without a proper explanation in the caption field.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 2:25pm EDT
Kevin said: "For example, my image receives 1 rating of 10 from Sherry. She also triggers 1 unique page view in doing so. Does her rating and page view get added together to make 2 'votes'?"

Answer - yes, sort of. It's not two 'votes'... it's two points. The star and the unique view hold equal weight.
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 2:29pm EDT
Thank You Pam!! -- That's very clear.  
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 2:30pm EDT
Ok on both counts, thanks.

FWIW, I'm well aware that I'm being a PITA. :) I merely want to spare everyone else to disappointment that was dealt to ME last year, and if that means being a pain until ALL questions are answered, so be it.
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Sherry W. Aug 19, 2008, 2:33pm EDT
The one thing I guess I don't *get* is that this way of choosing the winners - taking the top 10 PHOTOS rather than than the top 10 CONTRIBUTORS seems to be a step backward. I mean, in the past, rules WERE interpreted as you're interpreting them now, but then they were changed at the last minute when Gather realized what was happening - that one or two users were garnering the great majority of the votes. Seems like a step in the wrong direction. But that's JMHO. Bowing out.
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Crystal R. Aug 19, 2008, 2:34pm EDT
Thanks for the clarification.
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Samantha V. Aug 19, 2008, 2:37pm EDT
Thanks Pam! :)
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Amy B. Aug 19, 2008, 2:38pm EDT
Where do I find the original post on this contest since I didn't see it yesterday? I'm sure other Gather members also didn't see it, so it would be nice if Gather could email announcements of this type to ALL of their members so everyone is equally informed. (Just one of my continuing gripes about the lack of consistent communication to all members)
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~♥~ Kim ~♥~ Aug 19, 2008, 2:44pm EDT
You'll find it here Amy:

Summer Points Promotion: Share Your Photos & Win!
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Angela <:3---}~~~~ M. Aug 19, 2008, 2:48pm EDT
Maybe its time for me to drop my values and become a point whore so that i can get those comments/views LOL, we know 90% of the images that make the top 10 get there because of this practice and we know that it will determine the winner of this contest
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 3:03pm EDT
Pam,

If a member publishes a series of summer images today but overlooks adding the correct tag until later in the week, do they need to do anything to ensure they receive the bonus points for those images?

Thank you!
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☃ Aunt Shanny Aug 19, 2008, 3:06pm EDT
I'm glad you are asking all these questions, Kev. It's stuff I hadn't even thought of!
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Amy B. Aug 19, 2008, 3:16pm EDT
Thanks Kim. That's the problem with these new feeds... things just roll through so quickly that I find I have to save links to articles or I'll never find them again. And if I missed something, I have no idea how to find it.
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Pam Johnston Aug 19, 2008, 3:28pm EDT
Kevin: If a member publishes a series of summer pictures today but doesn't add the summerpics tag, he/she will need to republish the photos with the summerpics tag in order to get the extra points.
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 3:35pm EDT
Thanks Pam.

I apologize for requesting additional clarification, but does this mean that the member can just add the tag tomorrow and republish the image (assuming the image was originally published during the promotion period), or must they upload and publish a NEW image with the correct tag?

There are several members in the community right now that are in this predicament.

Thanks again!
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Chuck M. Aug 19, 2008, 3:44pm EDT
Thanks Pam!
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carolyn b. Aug 19, 2008, 4:01pm EDT
Pam, thank for the answer about any summer, I have some from previous summers, thanks!
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 19, 2008, 4:05pm EDT
One more question! On the announcement article for this promotion, the following statement appears:

"Decide who can view your photos by making a selection from the "Who can view this photo" field; photos can be public or private"

Are photos published privately or published only to select friend sets ineligible?

Thanks (again)!
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Nippy Katz (not his real name) Patriotic Troll of Gather Freedom Aug 19, 2008, 5:35pm EDT
I love photos of Spanish moss on rusting cars. Thanks for sharing.
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Esther IS Flesh and Blood S. Aug 19, 2008, 6:18pm EDT
Great promotion!

Thanks for asking all of the pertinent questions Kevin! What would we do without you?? :)
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Connie C. Aug 19, 2008, 6:23pm EDT
Thanks Pam,
This answered the questions that I had about the contest. I will add a link to this post in the Today ON Gather post for Wednesday.
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Marianne R. Aug 19, 2008, 6:27pm EDT
Thanks for the answers. Glad to read about the photo essays. Hopefully that will cut down on the floods of photos from the same people.

If the photo is taken during the summer, isn't that good enough? That's what I have been going by. And Summer is a long season for those of us in the South.
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Amanda "middle of nowhere" C. Aug 19, 2008, 6:27pm EDT
I didn't know about this. I suppose I should start taking photos!
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member 1234 Aug 19, 2008, 7:13pm EDT
sorry, but i am not going to enter this, Everyone already knows who is gonna win, its a popularity contest.
i need a camera but i have no chance of winning if its the top 10 photos.
we are all gonna get flooded and its not worth the time.
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Brenda (square peg in a round hole) H. Aug 19, 2008, 7:53pm EDT
I have a question in regards to photo essays. If I add the tag while I am uploading each picture but take a few days to publish the article, will they still count towards the promotion. It sometimes takes me a few days to finish a photo essay. I like to work at it a little at a time.
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Margaret G. Aug 19, 2008, 8:18pm EDT
thanks.
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Nana to Seven Cutiepies Aug 19, 2008, 8:18pm EDT
Lot's of information here but I do have a question not answered, unless I missed it....on the photo essays, is it ten points for the whole essay or ten points for each photo in the essay? So if I have a photo essay on beaches and it has ten photos does this equal ten points or 100 points?
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Brian .. Aug 20, 2008, 2:45am EDT
I have a quesion.
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Do the photos have to be original ones that I've taken myself,
or can I post "free-to-use" photos I find online
and tag them as summerpics?
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Marilyn M. Aug 20, 2008, 2:53am EDT
Cool.
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Karen R. Aug 20, 2008, 4:00am EDT
For those of us already on the cash option, since we do not get points, does this mean we will earn our cash a little bit faster by taking part in posting pictures as part of this promotion?
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Elaine S. Aug 20, 2008, 6:26am EDT
Thank you
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Pam Johnston Aug 20, 2008, 7:21am EDT
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: Due to last night's site maintenance, points earned Monday were not able to be distributed by close of business Tuesday. They will be distributed mid-day today, Wednesday 8/20. Thank you for your patience!
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Kim G. Aug 20, 2008, 8:26am EDT
Pam,

I don't get involved in Gather all that much, so I was wondering how I promote pictures I've post in the contest? Someone mentioned that this was a popularity contest and "we all know who's going to win." How do I draw attention to my work so I get noticed?

Thank you
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Brian .. Aug 20, 2008, 8:57am EDT
Pam -
I came back this morning to find out the answer to the question I asked yesterday,
but do not find it has been answered. I will check in a hour or two.
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Pie S. Aug 20, 2008, 1:04pm EDT
Thanks and off I go now to post more pics!
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Brian .. Aug 20, 2008, 1:23pm EDT
Pam -
I am still waiting to hear your answer on my question posted above.
Will check back in a few hours.
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Pam Johnston Aug 20, 2008, 2:25pm EDT
Hi Brian - Sorry I missed your question. I must have slept through it since you shared it in the middle of the night where I live ;)

You asked "Do the photos have to be original ones that I've taken myself, or can I post "free-to-use" photos I find online and tag them as summerpics?"

Answer: According to Gather's TOS, you are not permitted to share content that you do not own or did not create.

Hope that answers your question!
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Brian .. Aug 20, 2008, 2:45pm EDT
ok.
Thanks for your answer.
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Brenda (square peg in a round hole) H. Aug 20, 2008, 3:28pm EDT
Sorry to bother you again Pam, but I asked a question you may have missed. I'll repeat it here.............

I have a question in regards to photo essays. If I add the tag while I am uploading each picture but take a few days to publish the article, will they still count towards the promotion. It sometimes takes me a few days to finish a photo essay. I like to work at it a little at a time.
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Pam Johnston Aug 20, 2008, 3:47pm EDT
Sorry Brenda - In order to qualify for the bonus points, you must share your photo during the promotion.... which means it must be published by 5:30pm ET on September 5th. Also, you must add the tag summerpics to each photo during the uploading process.

Hope that answers your question!
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Amanda C. Aug 20, 2008, 3:49pm EDT
I think this is a great promotion, and I have already submitted a few pics, BUT I do not really agree with the way winners will be chosen. I think it is sort of unfair to some of us who do not have as many connections as others.
I say this because in the end it is not going to be based on who has the best photograph, but who is the most popular on this site. We have several members who are always in the top on page views, and all of their content always has tons of comments. That being said, this so called content that is getting so many views and ratings is usually not what could be called one of the BEST quality photos.
I also think it should be the top ten contributers not top ten rated and/or viewed pics, because of what I just stated about the fact that some people will likely be in the top 10 more than once.
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Brenda (square peg in a round hole) H. Aug 20, 2008, 3:55pm EDT
Thanks Pam. Just to clarify, if I upload pictures tonight and tag them during the upload process, I'll be eligible for the bonus points as long as I publish the essay before 5:30 PM September 5th. The reason I ask is because I seldom finish a photo essay in one sitting. It seems no one bothers me until I am working on something. LOL
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Kevin (''The SiteWizard'') V. Aug 20, 2008, 4:02pm EDT
"Also, you must add the tag summerpics to each photo during the uploading process."

Pam, does this mean that if you initially forget to add the tag to an image when you publish, that you must upload and publish the image all over again? (refer to one of my unanswered questions above).

Plus, the announcement article states that images can be private. Is this correct?
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Heather W. Aug 20, 2008, 4:04pm EDT
Shall we start a betting pool as to who will win? I have about five people in my head right now that I know will be in the top just because of the way they 'play' the site.
I hope dearly one of the good photographers on here make it, too many times is talent surpassed in gather contests for popularity.
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Amanda C. Aug 20, 2008, 4:17pm EDT
I have a few in my mind too Heather, and I am participating in the contest even though I know I don't have a chance due to how they are picking the winners.
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Heather W. Aug 20, 2008, 4:29pm EDT
Amanda I'm just posting as I always do and helping out my friends with page views as I get the time on my days off (school is starting soon so I won't be around as much). I don't need another camera, I love my panasonic, so I personally don't care if i win or not. I just think that, based on what I see in the top viewed photos just about every night (Sometimes a good photo slips in but not often), I don't think the 'winner' will be the 'best photo' on gather.
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Heather W. Aug 20, 2008, 4:34pm EDT
"Answer: According to Gather's TOS, you are not permitted to share content that you do not own or did not create."

Then why doesn't gather enforce this rule on a regular basis?
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Amanda C. Aug 20, 2008, 4:42pm EDT
yeah no kidding, if they really cared there would still be an option to flag a photo for copyright infringement.

and right now I really could use a new camera, because mine I am using now is an older one, and while it takes nice pictures I would love to have a better quality one. We had a Canon Rebel Xt for awhile, but had to sell it in July because we needed the $ to move. But I am hoping that by Sept some time we will be able to buy another one, because I miss my camera so much.
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Heather W. Aug 20, 2008, 4:48pm EDT
I'd die without my camera. Or at least go a bit crazy. I'd love to save up and get a high dollar nikon *dreams*. The good thing now about gather is they offer amazon cards which = camera and camera toys :D
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Pam Johnston Aug 20, 2008, 4:55pm EDT
Brenda - you got it right! Just be sure to share before 5:30pm ET on 9/5.
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