"The 'war on terror' is not everybody's language, nor for that matter is 'globalization', says 1998 Nobel Prize economics laureate Amartya Sen. Nor is anyone right to think that religious radicalism is really an Islamic problem, he says. "
Sen, an Indian, was chosen by the Commonwealth Commission on Respect and Understanding to lead a search for ways to foster peace. The group's report titled "Civil Paths to Peace, " published this November, followed a mandate from the Commonwealth Heads of Government to look into the causes of conflict, violence and extremism among the 53 members of the Commonwealth, those countries that once formed the British Empire. Inter Press Service European regional editor Sanjay Suri interviewed Amartya Sen after the launch of the report.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/IK30Dj01.html
"[...IPS: But whose globalization is it anyway? That of the West? Of goods, the market? Of people, ideas?
AS: It depends on what you mean by globalization. Globalization of ideas has been one of the most important ways in which human progress has occurred. People have learnt scientific techniques from somewhere, mathematical techniques from other places. At the moment the non-Western world learns a lot from advancement in the West in terms of science and engineering.
On the other hand, at the time of the Renaissance and then later at the time of the European enlightenment, there was an enormous contribution of Chinese science to European understanding. Indian and Arab mathematics which transformed the way of the 11th, 12th, 13th century world in which maths was done. Similarly the Arab heritage in providing an interactive dialog commitment in the days when the Arab world was very powerful.
It is often overlooked now that when Aristotle and Plato were obliterated in the so-called Dark Ages after the classical period, it is only through an Arabic translation that Aristotle and Plato survived. And they were re-translated back into Latin in order to revive that part of Western civilization. So globalization of ideas has been a hugely constructive thing.
The globalization of economic relations could be too. But it's a question not of being against globalization, it's a question of making sure that different communities, different parts of the world can all benefit from the globalization process, rather than the benefit being unequally shared, going mostly to some people and not others.
It's really the sharing, the avoidance of inequality that we are looking at. And that is not a question of being anti-globalization. And I don't think it is a question of whose globalization. If it's globalization then it's everybody's globalization.
But you're right, that's a good question to ask, to make sure that globalization is really that of the globe. And not just one part of the globe. "
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Religious intolerance is the other, as the previous comment clearly illustrates.
I gave it a 10.
Since Islamic society is a total failure, unless perfecting murder and terror is considered success, why not impose this failure on economic institutions in the form of "Islamic Economics"?
Notice the article quotes all the great accomplishments of Islamic society eight hundred years ago, but nothing today? Oh, and by the way, Islamic accomplishments in large part were exemplified by the Moors. The rest of Arabia were rife with terrorists and murderers, like today.
Remember this, 1.2 billion Muslims win no Noble prizes in the sciences and medicine and economics because their failure of a society does not promote such endeavors. On the other hand almost one third of the Nobel prizes are won by Jews, numbering less than 20 million worldwide.
When Muslims and their parroting apologists have the integrity and guts to look within, their will be hope. But since that will never happen.......
It's best to ignore Martin and Robert Leaf (although they are the same person most likely) and any others like "them", although there are few that are as extreme as he is. He is simply a rabid Zionist that is too much of a coward to actually fight for his country so he does his fighting on the internet by constantly putting out anti-Palestine, anti-Muslim propaganda. Just notice how he will spam any and all articles that he comes across with his nonsense.
The more spiritual aspect of the "positive" would have the equalized balance of the worlds natural diversity COOPERATING with each other with the common goal of all "winning" with the natural SYNERGY that would then take place creating ever more wealth (material AND spiritual) for ALL.
This is the prophesied view of the War in the Heavens "playing out here on earth" ...
And you never refuted the lie of the so called "Palestinians". They never existed, until someone decided in the 1960's it would be a good propaganda tool against the Jews. Never in the history of the world was there an Independent Muslim state of Palestine, or a Palestinian culture for that matter.
The name Palestine even proves they are a fraud since the name means Phillistine.
As for the Pakistani regime, aren't they always invoking a Jihad against the Peaceful Hindus , which is always the case for Islam, always at war with their neighbors.
True, you can go back in history a few thousand years and Jews occupied that land. And in between, lots of others also occupied that land. It has been fought over for thousands of years. Who owns it? Who has the right to live there? The Israelis claim that God gave them that land. Just as the Muslims call all of that area "sacred Arab land." Both sides are using religion to justify their claims, and both of those claims are invalid. Reading something in an ancient text does not make it legally binding, especially when it concerns God. As far as I know, God is not in the real estate business.
I don't think anybody can claim it with any objective evidence or argument.
There is no RIGHT answer to who owns the land. That is why the question hasn't been settled after all these years. The only way it will be solved is with a political compromise of some kind, and neither side is willing or able to do that at the moment.
The Jews who emigrated to Palestine in the last century can't even trace their origins to the Middle East. It's largely fabricated "history," similar to "Aryan" claims of the Nazis . Neo - Nazis like Martin L. can't be taken seriously.
As I said, the only way it will be solved is with a political compromise...some lands to Israel, some lands to the Palestinians, and EVERYBODY has to accept the result. And that is the problem. I suspect many Israelis and many Palestinians are ready to settle this, stop the bloodshed and get on with their lives. But there are extremists in both camps who are absolutely opposed to any solution that is not total victory for their side. As long as the extremists are in control, nothing will be done.
I've refuted that claim multiple times. Only to have you run away like the coward that you are and claim that I've never refuted it successfully. I've given multiple accounts throughout the past several hundred years, at least, in which Palestinians recognize themselves as such and have even fought for a Palestinian land. But keep being a coward and never recognize those facts.
" I think that is a pretty objective way of measuring a group's accomplishments. "
A group's accomplishments don't mean anything. When the Islamic world was the center of science and advancement, would that take any humanity away from Europe, Africa or any other place? Of course not.
Who cares about what your "people" did? Why should what whites do affect me or characterize me? One that attaches themselves to a group as such as leaches off the accomplishments of that group just shows that they themselves have not contributed at all. That explains why you are constantly on gather bragging about what Jews have done: it makes up for the fact, in your mind, that you haven't accomplished anything except the ability to purchase a computer and internet service. Congrats on your amazing accomplishments. As for what Jews, Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc accomplish, I'll congratulate the individual, not the group.
In case people here don't know what's going on, you defied me to show that the Palestinians existed as a group prior to 1967 and that they identified themselves as such.
Here's the proof I presented earlier, that you simply deny without any evidence.
Prior to WWI, in the build up of the Jewish presence in Palestine, a Jaffa Journal called Filisteen (Palestine) urged for Palestinians to engage in the purchasing of government land for the establishment of "a patriotic Palestinian society". Not an Arab society. A society dominated by Palestinians. (From "The Palestinian-Arab National Movement" pg. 8-9)
A famous Palestinian Mufti, al-Ramli, in the late 1500's mentions the term Palestine quite often in his writings, fatwas, etc. The notable thing about this is that this occurs when there is no "Palestine" exactly (under Ottoman rule). It wasn't just a name of a province he was living in, in which case he would call it "bilad a-sham"(Greater Syria). Instead, he identifies his homeland as Palestine, recognizing himself as a Palestinian.
The term Palestine and thus Palestinians has existed long before '67. Not just as ink on maps around the world or on the TV, but in the hearts and minds of Palestinians for at least 500 years.
How about in 1913 a Palestinian newspaper wrote: "This team possessed tremendous power; not to ignore that Palestine, THEIR COUNTRY, was part of the Ottoman Empire." (My emphasis)
Or that the Palestinian flag flown across the lands of the Palestinians was designed in 1916 in a revolt against the Ottoman Empire?
Or how about the Palestinian Liberation Organization was established in 1964?
Or in 1920 the Muslim-Christian Alliance (of Palestine) sent a letter to the League of Nations that stated they wanted a "National Government be created which shall be responsible to a Parliament elected by the Palestinian People, who existed in Palestine before the war."
Now everyone can see that I've shown ample proof that for hundreds of years, long before Zionism or Israel took hold, there was a people in Palestine that identified themselves as Palestinians and rose up, multiple times, for a Palestinian state.
Thanks for your brief history lesson. As for Martin L.'s fantasies, I am reminded in his "Essays Before a Sonata" Charles Ives compares listening to Richard Wagner to watching a milkmaid churn milk...after about ten minutes you pretty much get the idea.
I never claimed there was a Palestine. But I've presented numerous amounts of proof that the people of the land have, for hundreds of years, been referring to themselves as Palestinians and have often fought for a Palestinian state, long before there was a Jewish state to resist. If you have a hard time reading the fact, then that's your problem.
I'm still waiting on proof of a Holocaust in the Middle East. LOL Keep believing in the lies, the most absolutely ridiculous lies that show how easily susceptible you are to propaganda.
Now where are the gas chambers? Where are the death camps? The only ones I know of are in Europe, not the Middle East. LOL
"Anyone who denies the Islamic global jihad (Muslim globalization) is either already Muslim or has their head in the sand."
LOL More conspiracy theories. You are whacked out of your skull. Continue to show your stupidity and ignorance. It's a pleasure to get a few laughs from you.
You are a complete idiot. I was never laughing at the Holocaust. I was laughing at YOU. You still stick to the story that there is a Holocaust in the Middle East yet you offer NO PROOF. You offer no proof of any genocide taking place, only a willingness by some people to make it happen. But guess what? There is that same willingness in the US. But that doesn't mean there is a Holocaust in the US, now does it? Of course not.
It's simply amazing the BS that you say. When have I ever expressed hatred for Jews? You are simply making brash speculations that have absolutely no foundations and it's astonishing what you say. You are a disgusting human being for making the types of accusations that you do with regard to a new Holocaust and my "hatred" for Jews.
If there is any hatred on this board, it is from you. It's amazing how you claim Muslims are committing a Holocaust yet you can provide ZERO proof to that claim, despite my request multiple times! Why would you dare make such a ridiculous and absurd claim is beyond anyone with a rational brain cell in his skull. It's likely that you make such claims to shape the people's perception of Muslims due to your hatred of them.
"You haven't provided even one piece of evidence; you've just made claims about the term Palestinian being used when the fact is the term Palestinian applied to Palestinians of Jewish descent as well as Palestinians of Arab descent. "
Go back and read what I said. I gave numerous proofs of what I've said. Along with many of those are references which, to any educated person, knows that you should indeed use those to see if the statements are accurate and you can easily do so, yet you choose not to for whatever reason. And this laziness or whatever leads you to make uneducated statements such that I've provided no proof. The proof is out there and I've made it quite clear where it exists. But it's up to you to see how real it is.
You're free to look into anything that I've said and see if it's accurate, which it all is. If you choose not to, then it's YOUR loss, not mine.
"This concept that there are "Palestinian people" as though it is a nationality separate from all these other Palestinians is intended for no other purpose than to continue whittling away at the Palestinian Territory until the Arabs own it all and Israel is destroyed."
I'm not sure if you've noticed this, but it's the Palestinian land that is being constantly whittled away through the expansion of settlements and the use of the IDF to accomplish that goal through securing the settlers. But of course, it's all an Arab/Muslim conspiracy to take over Israel and if we aren't vigilant, they will succeed!
How does this relate to the article?
You seem to relate "globalization" to cultural beliefs, from what I've read here. Is that based on reality? Since 1% of humanity controls the wealth, and a part of that 1% works to get richer by creating wars, famines, etc and manipulating nations via the banks (as the Bank of England, US Federal Reserve and the other central banks), and has been doing so for centuries , there IS only "one world order" in their reality. More recently, they have transferred much of the wealth of West to the East, through using the monetary system. China has been "colonized" via the reserve currency of the dollar and now China has been "subcontracted" to colonize the the third world nations for their natural resources - all to profit the globalists who control the wealth and the governments. When India becomes more populous and wealthier than China in the next 25 years or so, the same game will be going on. The leaders of the US, Europe and Israel all serve the globalists not the interests of their own nations. Impoverishing the West works to their profit.
No true culture or religion is honored by these globalists, who only seek power and control. Extremist groups, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim or other are the willing servants of the materialist globalists. They preach fear and hatred and insane prophecies based on distorted teachings invented from sacred books for the sake of power over others.
Nabokov remarked ,"...the irrational belief in the goodness of man...becomes something much more than the wobbly basis of idealistic philosophies. It becomes a solid and irridescent truth. This means that goodness becomes a central and tangible part of one's world, which world at first sight seems hard to identify with the modern one of newspaper editors and other bright pessimists, who will tell you that it is, mildly speaking, illogical to applaud the supremacy of good at a time when something called the police state....is trying to turn the globe into five million square miles of terror, stupidity, and barbed wire...But within the emphatically and unshakably illogical world which I am advertising as a home for the spirit, war gods are unreal not because they are conveniently remote in physical space from the reality of the reading lamp and the solidity of a fountain pen, but because I cannot imagine (and that is saying a good deal) such circumstances as might impinge upon the lovely and lovable world which quietly persists, whereas I can very well imagine that my fellow dreamers, thousands of whom roam the earth, keep to these same irrational and divine standards during the darkest and most dazzling hour of physical danger, pain, dust, death."
While we may share many of the same aims, in regard to scripture, specifically the OT and NT, I think it is already clear we have different interpretations. I expect we both know the texts - at one time I memorized several Gospels in several languages as a personal exercise and practice and I have studied the OT , the NT and the different churches and their doctrines. I think it best to leave off any discussion here , considering our religious views. I always welcome discussion in person with others, but this is not the setting for doing that.
And simply want to add this:
INNER Globalization and OUTER Globalization both bear study.
Inner Globalization would indicate transparency / inclusiveness - telepathic & empathic abilities awakened for most if not all of humanity. A few hundred years down the pike - or possibly instantaneous spontaneous mass awakening......
Outer Globalization falls into 2 categories:
1. The forced kind / economic & military/political manipulation
2. The kind that blooms into the outer, from the inner global center.
#2 is desirable, is it not?
Helen Keller