God is beyond logic and therefore, none can analyze God. But such God comes in flesh to give His experience to us. For example Jesus came as God in flesh. Now the problem comes because Hinduism projects another God in flesh like Krishna. Krishna declared that He is God. Jesus said that He is God because He and His father are one and the same. Now which God should I accept? You do not permit Me to do analysis. So you discuss and finalize so that I will accept either Krishna or Jesus. You neither give Me the conclusion nor allow Me to get the conclusion!
If you say that Jesus is God, you are contradicting your own statement, which is 'God in flesh'. This word clearly indicates that there are two items, which are God and flesh. It is just like saying 'water-in-vessel'; it indicates two items, which are water and vessel. Water is not the vessel. Therefore, God in flesh means that God is in Jesus as water is in the vessel. Similarly, Krishna is not God but God is in Krishna. The words Jesus and Krishna mean two different vessels. The water in both the vessels is one and the same. Krishna told in the Gita that He has entered the human body (Manushim tanumaasritam). Jesus and Krishna are two different human bodies. The word flesh and the word 'Manushim tanum' mean only the external human body. Now all the contradictions are removed. There is only one God and He created this entire universe. He came to different regions in different human forms to all countries in every human generation so that there is no partiality. If you analyze, different scriptures, which are the Word of God, they contain the same knowledge in different languages. Each language is like a human body and the knowledge in each language is one and the same, like God. Now whether I am Hindu or Christian, it does not matter.
You say that Jesus will come again. The Gita says that Krishna will come again and again whenever there is a necessity. You say that there are only two human incarnations. One is Jesus and another is His re-incarnation in the future. Hinduism shows ten main incarnations and also mentions any number of incarnations according to the necessity. [These two religions] contradict each other. Which point should I accept? Why don't you discuss and come to a conclusion because you do not allow Me to come to the conclusion by analysis? If you allow Me to say a small point here, Your Honor, I shall say that My point is that if you say that God can have only two incarnations, you are limiting the will and power of God without any freedom. I may also be allowed to raise another point here. If there are only two incarnations, only two human generations were blessed by God through direct contact. Other generations were not blessed. If you say that other generations are blessed by His preaching, then the generations that existed before Jesus were not blessed by such an opportunity. Even later generations were not blessed by His direct contact. Even during the lifetime of Jesus, the human generations existing in other countries were not blessed because there was no communication between countries at that time. If you say that the small area where Jesus preached contained all the good people alone, it is not a fact. In that small area several bad people existed at that time, and they crucified Jesus. This shows that there will be good and bad people in each generation at any place. Then the good people of all other countries were denied the opportunity of direct contact with Jesus. Thus God becomes partial.
I never said that I am the human incarnation of God. Only when the devotees stress on this concept even after My serious opposition I agree to it because if you analyze the word human incarnation, it does not mean that I am God. It means that the God is present in this human body as a guest visiting your house for his work.
I have accepted the worship of those devotees only who have firm faith in Me even after My several negative tests. That does not apply to your case. You worship Him, whomever you find as the human incarnation. My information to you is that the human incarnation exists in every generation to avoid partiality.
The recorded divine knowledge [Bible] can certainly guide people to some extent. But the direct explanation from the God cannot be given by anybody. Such a direct explanation is given to every human generation by God directly. If one generation is blessed by such a direct contact and other generations only get the indirect guidance by the Holy Spirit, again partiality arises.
The most important point is that even if I exit from the field of human incarnations along with My small number of devotees, your problem is not at all solved, because according to your interpretation of the Bible, there are only two human incarnations. One is Jesus and another is the re-incarnation of Jesus at the end. But Lord Krishna existed before Jesus and Buddha and Mohammad existed after Jesus. The followers of these three are in millions. How can you deny these three most powerful human incarnations and how can you oppose millions of their devotees? Therefore, your problem remains the same. My presence or exit in the field is really negligible. If you accept more number of human incarnations, let there be more number of human incarnations in the past, in the present and in the future. You have to throw away all the other human incarnations except Jesus. Is this possible for you? Certainly the devotees of other religions in millions and other human incarnations in thousands will stand against you. You want all the other religions to disappear and you want all the human beings on this earth to be Christians and accept only Jesus as God?
This is the ambition of every religion. These ambitions will clash with each other and peace is crushed to pieces. No religion can achieve this ambition at any time in the future. The devotees of other religions will certainly oppose Jesus, the Bible and Christianity. This happens to every religion. I can achieve this ambition of each religion to a very large extent. One day or the other the entire world will have a Universal Religion with Universal Spirituality. One day or other the intelligence of every human being will awaken and will find the truth. On that day every human being will not oppose any religion. Every human being will say that Jesus is also God; Krishna is also God etc. This will also be your success to a large extent. Nobody will oppose your religion. Every human being will respect and worship Jesus. I cannot fulfill your wish completely. You want every one should worship only Jesus. Through My path you can get 99% success. You cannot get even 1% success by your path.
God comes in human form in all places of the earth and also He comes in every generation that contains both good and bad. If devotees of one generation are favored by His direct visit, God becomes partial for no reason. God is not such mad! Priests never accept human form of God before their eyes. They like the worship of models that represent God indirectly, so that the results of worship indirectly come to them finally. Priests did not give place for God after Buddha in Kali age. Buddha came in the beginning of Kali. Priests showed Kalki at the end of this Kali age, – no human form till the end.
Similarly Christian priests opposed Jesus when He was alive. After Jesus, they say that Jesus comes only in the end. The psychology of priests is the same in the whole world! Krishna said that He will come whenever He is required. 'Jesus will come again' means, He will come in next generation. If the guest says to you that he will come again to you, does it mean that he will come only once in his entire life?
In Christianity the soul after death waits till the final inquiry. In that case the soul meets God twice, once in its lifetime and finally at the time of inquiry. This is justified, if no rebirth. Every soul meets God in human form; once while it exists on the earth in the human body, finally in final inquiry. This is possible only if God comes in every generation. Otherwise, souls born along with Jesus were only lucky, since they alone met God as Jesus and in final inquiry. All the other souls have only one chance to meet finally. This is again blind partiality, – God can never be blind. Any priest in the world does not like contemporary form because the benefits of service to God should come to him.
This is possible only if God is limited to symbolic models. The human psychology is always selfish and egoistic here. Jesus told that He and His father are one and the same. This is Advaita, He told that He is the son of God, this is vishishtadvaita, stating that son is part and parcel of father. Jesus told that He is messenger of God, this is Dvaita stating that God is master and Son of God is His servant.
Mohammad stressed on Dvaita, since all souls are servants. God is the master to be served, then Son of God is not special. This will remove jealousy of priests towards the Son of God. This will avoid crucifixion of Son of God by priests. Remember, Mohammad came just after Jesus and tried to avoid brutal consequences of jealousy of priests on the Son of God or contemporary human incarnation in future. Mohammad said that God never becomes human being. It is perfectly correct; current is not converted into wire. It only entered wire. God in flesh, Manushim Tanumashritam, mean that God entered human body, not converted into human body.
Human body means gross body with the liberated soul selected by God for human incarnation. The soul is a part of the body. The soul is causal body. The qualities in soul are subtle body. The soul acts as personal assistant, as inert as the gross body due to total surrender to God. This soul is the Son of God. Every soul has equal chance to become the Son of God. Every student has equal chance to get the gold medal. But in any year only one student tops and gets gold medal. The other students should not hate the topper by jealousy. The chance given was not properly used by other students. Neither God is partial nor the topper should be blamed. Still there is time, use it, – next time you may be topper.
Even during stay of God, God is God and soul is soul. Even in live wire, current is current and wire is wire. Wire is only treated as current for all practical purposes.
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The human incarnation comes in every generation but you are not coming in every generation. The rebirth as human being is almost impossible and completely impossible as per Christianity. In such case you are having only one chance to contact the human incarnation present in your generation. If you miss this, never again this luck comes. The next meeting with God is direct where He acts as judge. Therefore, there is no second coming of Jesus for you and you will meet God finally only.
In this way the second coming of Jesus at the end can be understood. But if you say that you cannot meet the human incarnation in your present generation, you are not having the opportunity even for once. In such case, why a particular generation in which God came in human form as Jesus was only blessed? They had the extra fortune and this means God is partial to that generation. Therefore, every person in every generation will have the equal chance of coming in contact with the human incarnation once in his or her life and the final contact with God in the energetic form as judge.
Therefore, the impartial God comes again and again for every generation (Yada Yada hi…..Gita) but you are not having the chance to meet the human incarnation again since you have no human rebirth. One may get the human rebirth in extreme exceptional situation and you should not depend on that because it involves high risk. The human birth, the urge for salvation and coming in contact with the human incarnation are the three real fortunes and the importance increases from left to right in the order. Therefore, simply having the human birth and having the urge by taking orange robe are not sufficient.
Unless you contact the Lord in human form and get the right knowledge for correct implementation, every thing is waste (Manushyatvam Mumukshatvam, Mahapurasha Samsrayah, Durlabham—Sankara). There is no quarrel if you say that the second coming of Jesus is only at the end because every one is having the equal chance. But if you say that I have to worship the past human incarnation only even in the present generation, then the equal opportunity is not given to Me when I am compared to the human being present in that generation in which Jesus came directly and clarified all the doubts face to face. I must have such equal privilege and here the quarrel comes with you since you deny the equal opportunity.
The second coming is final with respect to every human being but not with respect to God because in such case several human generations miss the chance of direct contact with God in human form except that one particular human generation. Even if you say that Jesus told that His second coming is only final, it is true with respect to every human being and not with respect to Him. You have misinterpreted this statement by extending it with reference to Jesus also because you want to exploit the people in the name of past Jesus and get personal fame and other facilities from the devotees. You are in no way different from the priests present in that time of Jesus.
Both of you do not admit the human form of Lord. Both of you keep the past which is invisible (invisible Jebhova or invisible Jesus) before the devotees and earn money and fame. The only difference between you both is that that priest got Jesus killed through the court and you cannot do that in the present time. The repulsion towards the human form before eyes is common to both the priests and devotees. But in the case priests there is an extra factor that they may lose fame and offerings from the devotees because they get benefited standing at the back ground of the invisible form of God or inert form of God.
In the case of devotees, this extra factor does not exist because they are prepared to sacrifice for God and they are not losing since they do not receive. Any Guru or Priest immediately resists human form of God based on these two factors since he fears that the human form may get the fame or their offerings. Thus, there is political, economical and social issue of psychology in this spiritual line. Attraction to fame and money associated with jealously and egoism is the main back ground and Lord Datta brings out the truth that is buried up to any depth. All the details of truth are known to the omniscient God. Veda says that the knowledge of God is always based on truth (Satyam Jnamam).
A student who gets 7% wants to have distinction. Now the misinterpretation is given like this. In the number 70 there are two numbers. One is 7 and the other is 0. Since 0 has no value, 70 must mean 7. Therefore, the student getting 7% can get distinction. Such misinterpretation by a mischievous teacher is admired by a large majority of students. Now he is the greatest teacher with large majority of followers! This is the present situation of false preachers misleading the vast majority. The distinction can be neither given by the teacher nor by the students. The board of interview selecting the students of distinction for service has the acknowledge of the distinction for which only there is real fruit.
Hence, God gives the divine fruit only to the real distinction since He is well aware of the marks of distinction, which were prescribed by Him only. Therefore, God had to come again and again and also everywhere simultaneously (especially when there was no electronic communications in the world) to establish the correct interpretation in the entire world. This correct interpretation attracts only the merit students and the majority consisting of incapable students will reject this. God is also not bothered about such majority because even if the truth is established to them, there will be no use in the case of such students. Krishna never preached spiritual knowledge to many people in His life. In His entire life, He chose only one occasion to preach Gita to just Arjuna only.
In every human generation the tribulation comes and the tribulation may be very serious in the end. The cyclones come often and Tsunami comes rarely. Both the cyclone and Tsunami should be controlled. The efforts of human incarnation may vary in their intensity. Perfect peace is the initial aim of God (Pravrutti), which is the establishment of balance of the society. The higher aim is liberation of the soul (Nivrutti). Unless the first aim is achieved, the second aim cannot be thought of. Unless the class is kept silent, there is no use of teaching.
Tribulation comes in every human generation. Tribulation should be understood in its inner sense. The sun becomes black. The sun means the intelligence or the discrimination power. Black means the evil direction. The moon becomes red. Moon stands for mind (Chandrama Manasah –Veda). The red colour indicates emotion and anger. The divine bodies escape their orbits. The divine bodies mean the feelings of good people. Orbits mean the paths of justice. Like this one should understand the inner meaning. It is scholastic language. Jesus is a great scholar.
The same tribulation is mentioned in Gita "whenever the tribulation appears in any human generation and at any place, I shall come down in the human form to set it right" (Yadahi Yadahi—Gita). In Gita "Dharma Glanih" means tribulation. This tribulation may take place in physical sense at the end. The re-incarnation of the Jesus to judge and punish is nothing but the "Kalki" incarnation mentioned in Hinduism. It is a very powerful incarnation. But mean while the Lord will come again and again to change the people through the divine knowledge. After many efforts, the final step is taken. When you say that Jesus will come again, it means He will come again and again to preach and change. Such interpretation synchronizes with Gita also.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness, Sri Dattaswami
The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible because the absolute God is unimaginable. The absolute God comes in human form to give you the experience of His existence, in absence of which, you may deny the very existence of the absolute God and may become atheist (Astityeva….Veda). The identification of the human form in which the absolute God exists is the knowledge of God (Brahma Jnanam or Brahma Vidya).
The experience of the existence of the absolute God does not reveal any trace of the nature of the absolute God and hence God is always unimaginable. The only information about the absolute God is that God exists. “Aum Tat Sat” means that God exists and no more information about God is available. The word Tat means that God is beyond your imagination. The word Aum denotes that God is the creator, ruler and destroyer of this world. These three adjectives indicate the works (Creation, rule and destruction) of God only and not the nature of the God. This is called as the information about the existence only (Sanmatra vada). God comes in human form, which is characterized by the awareness or chit.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami
Anil Antony
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