Any local gardeners out there willing to offer some expertise?
I am looking after a garden on the south side of my Saint Paul building.
Last summer it became clear that "south side" means very little compared to "my neighbor's grapevines screen the sun like SPF 45." I also discovered that "well-drained" is an awful lot like "eight inches down, meet the gravel of the old parking lot."
This spring was devoted to composting and mulching and setting in some borders so that same c&m doesn't wash itself into the new parking lot. A couple of shade plants are taking root and I'm all atwitter at the idea of perennials sprouting two years in a row.
Sunday brings another pilgrimage to empty my wallet at the Vagary Gardens stand in the Saint Paul Farmer's Market. The fabulous argument for perennials is that they go in just once and, tra-lalala!, the next time will be for creativity's sake rather than necessity's demand.
Assuming of course the whole border doesn't freeze into oblivion over the winter. So now, a new perplexing query: what zone would this garden be? How would I go about determining its zone? If I'm getting local plants, does it even matter?
What do you know? What would you do? The lamia & astilbe are needing some garden-mates -- please help me select some great perennials. (If I wanted to do the same thing over & over, I'd weed....)


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Here are some of my favorite perennials for shade:
Goat's Beard (Aruncus)
Monk's Hood
Lamiastrum
Wild Geranium (Geranium maculatum)
Hostas (duh)
Ferns (double duh)
Ajuga
Columbine (Aquilegia)
Bleeding Heart (Dicentra)
Lady's Mantle (Alchemilla)
Lily of the Valley (Convallaria)
Ligularia
Brunnera
Lungwort (Pulmonaria)
Primrose (Primula)
If you can afford it, I highly recommend adding some annuals to your perennials bed, to provide color when the perennials are not in bloom (most perennials have a specific bloom period and then are done for the season).
Annuals for shade:
Impatients
Begonias (tuberous & wax)
Monkey flower (Mimulus)
Torenia
Flowering Maple (Abutilon)
Fuschia
Hope that helps!
Auntie, you're a gardener worth your weight in rich blackdirt! :-)
This fall, I will be dividing a lot of plants... want some?
I have almost everything on your first list except for the Alchemilla, mine disappeared over the winter. I have to replace them this fall. I LOVE the new brunneras, heucheras and heucherellas... The colors are heart=stoppingly gorgeous!
It sounds like you don't care too much for hostas or ferns? I got bit by the Hosta bug and I went on an acquiring binge... I now own over 150 varieties... yup, my purse is looking lean these days.
I just ordered some of that pricey and new PINK lily-of-thevalley... Can't wait to get it!
Pearl, for the last 3 years I've work part-time for a garden center. The sad irony is that I took the job because I love to garden, but now have no time for it, because this year they talked me into managing the place.
Wow, you have a HUGE number of hostas! I don't think my small city lot would hold 150 hostas! Heucheras are lovely, I have 3 of them. I need to get some of the burgundy-leafed ones, the foliage is so pretty.
PINK lily of the valley?? Be still my beating heart!
If you're managing a garden center you must have access to EVERYTHING new and wonderful for the garden??? Whee! What a dream job!
We bought and moved into this house on the outskirts of the city so we could take my mother-in-law in after she was diagnosed with Alzheimers. My hostas started as a small garden in her memory when she died 2 years ago. My advice? Don't ever get started on hostas! It's a sickness... you gotta have every new kind you see!
About the heucheras, I like the new Stoplight... it's such a BRIGHT lime green right now it stops everybody on their track!... I have the Amber Waves, the Dolce Creme Brulee, Peace Melba, Lime Rickey, Green Spice, Regina, Purple Myst, and of course the ever popular Purple Palace... 2 new heucheras, Marmalade and Obsidian are on their way to me, they should be here before the week-end! The names they give these new varieties make me hungry!
Yes, pink lilies of the valley! :-)
It's a crime, practically vandalism.
Wasn't there another, more detailed "garden zone" system at one time?
Back to your excellent question, Kate, I'm here in Zone 4 too. For shade I like the classic Lily of the Valley (what is this Pink Lily of the Valley business? PHOTOS please!) but it isn't good for companion animals, or perhaps just dogs.
p.s. I agree with you: wild/public raspberry removal is a crime.
Getting into the zone. There are links to the sunset zone maps and reasons why I think we should revamp the USDA ones. I am a serious zone pusher, fruit tree burrier, groing bananas in my front yard kind of guy--in St. Paul MN.
St Paul is near the line between zones 4 and 3, but the Twin Cities is warmer than the surrounding area, and the gravel layer in your garden area should allow you to grow some of the hardier zone 5 plants without a lot of extra tlc. One of the biggest factors for determining how far you can push your hardiness zone is how much standing water you have during the spring thaw. Many plants are able to survive much colder winter temperatures as long as their crowns aren't exposed to standing water while the snow cover melts and the ground thaws.
Pearl, we plant perennials a little differently up here. We do almost all our planting in the spring because our long, cold winters often kill or severely weaken plants that haven't had a full season's growth to establish a new root system and become solidly anchored in the soil.
Auntie - daylilies - you're absolutely correct. Daylilies grow very well here in the Twin Cities.